The Nineteenth Byte

noodle man

00:00

@lyxal see also Banana-golf

lyxal

neither of those claim to win golf now do they

noodle man

@lyxal i believe banana-golf was originally meant to be a serious contender

lyxal

@noodleman yeah but it doesn't literally claim to "Win Golf" quite like "Win Golf" does :p

thejonymyster

@lyxal mine does

lyxal

I mean, the tagline is even "Win Golf is a language made by SnakeyKing and is created to help people win coding golfs."

noodle man

00:03

it's surely the only language with a builtin to output "Banana! Num num num num num!"

thejonymyster

^

lyxal

@noodleman false

noodle man

@lyxal MetaGolfScript or whathaveyou probably does too

lyxal

also false

noodle man

well i'm stumped

lyxal

00:07

Vyxal 3 :p

noodle man

output_banana_num_num_num_num_num!

lyxal

#q prints Banana! Num num num num num! to stdout

noodle man

genius reference

lyxal

in Vyxal, 1 min ago, by Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/version-3 in Vyxal/Vyxal: apologies in advance

actually added it just now

thejonymyster

CMC: given n>0, print Banana! Num num num num num! with n nums (including the first capitalized one)

noodle man

00:11

@thejonymyster Ruby, 30 bytes: ->n{"Banana! Num#{" num"*n}!"}

oops bug

Ruby, 34 bytes: ->n{"Banana! Num#{" num"*(n-1)}!"} hotfix

thejonymyster

damn, 4 bytes shorter than identical approach in js

n=>`Banana! Num${' num'.repeat(n-1)}!`

(idk how chat formatting works, no attempt was made to circumvent it)

noodle man

there's a challenge about escaping code for chat

its kind of a meme lol

thejonymyster

oh that works ok

ATaco

ARBLE, 31 bytes. "Banana! Num"..s" num":rep(n-1)

thejonymyster

needs the !

noodle man

00:14

@ATaco must have trailing exclamation point

thejonymyster

very formal

noodle man

i'm a formal kinda guy :p

ATaco

Oh HEC

lyxal

@noodleman no, you're noodle man

noodle man

i will end you

ATaco

00:16

33 Bytes. "Banana! Num%s!"%rep(" num",n-1)

noodle man

nice

the equivalent ruby is a couple bytes longer

TypeScript's Type System, 97 bytes //@ts-ignore type F<N,A=[1],S="Banana! Num">=A extends{length:N}?${S}!:F<N,[...A,1],${S} num>

input in decimal, unary is actually not much shorter, if at all, for this challenge

thejonymyster

incredible

Unrelated String

wow

thejonymyster

speaking of those backtics...

noodle man

oops

lol

thejonymyster

00:24

ts is definitely one of the funnier code golf langs

noodle man

indeed

i'm actually in the process of writing a programming language in TypeScript's type system

thejonymyster

god

noodle man

@thejonymyster not ts, but ts's type system

thejonymyster

do keep us posted

@noodleman right sorry i keep forgetting since its such a ridiculous thing to say

might as well be "typescript's type script"

the ts of ts

noodle man

well ts is just a wrapper around javascript with a funky type system on top

thejonymyster

00:26

right

noodle man

i wish more people would try golfing in it, it's pretty fun once you figure out a couple tricks

i might make a tutorial at some point

Unrelated String

@thejonymyster a surprisingly painful jelly, 21 bytes: ’“ num”ẋ“¡ƙ¶×ỵJÞʠ»;”!

noodle man

it's much more approachable for a lot of problems than say brainfuck

Unrelated String

jelly cannot into strings

noodle man

love that sentence

@noodleman or even APL to a lot of people including me, honestly

thejonymyster

00:28

@UnrelatedString hehe

noodle man

honestly ts type system is kinda free upvotes :p

you don't have to golf well for it to be impressive

i've gotten pretty good at golfing it but just getting a working submission is enough for a lot of people, especially since it can be hard to tell when a solution is golfable or not from an "outsiders perspective"

lyxal

@thejonymyster Vyxal, 15 bytes: ‛ǎ℅*ǐ3ẇṄ`¹⌐! Π!

Unlike jelly, vyxal can into strings

thejonymyster

wow no #q even

noodle man

that's vyxal 3

this is vyxal 2

thejonymyster

whos on vyxal 1st

noodle man

00:33

probably nobody

lyxal

@thejonymyster Well yeah because a) that's in version 3, b) it's temporarily removed because it gave a compiler error (too powerful) and c) #q is a fixed string

@thejonymyster maybe like one or two answers on the site

noodle man

no, probably nobody's on vyxal zeroeth!

did vyxal have a 0.x?

lyxal

@noodleman might be one

@noodleman all the way to 0.9.x

noodle man

i was going into the who's on first schtick but yes

Unrelated String

speaking from that outsider perspective when i hear type system golfing i assume, like, you need to create multiple custom slightly different types of peano numbers to be able to title case a string

noodle man

00:36

actually Ts types has a builtin for capitalize lol

Unrelated String

lmaooooooooooooo

noodle man

i have no idea why they added it but yeah

caird coinheringaahin g

@lyxal god, I wish Jelly had good string handling

thejonymyster

strelly

lyxal

Jelling

noodle man

00:38

bing jelling

(ok i'm pretty sure my joke was so dumb it didn't register, i was going for that one john cena clip where he's eating ice cream)

lyxal

@thejonymyster Vyxal, 14 bytes: ‛ǎ℅*/Ṅ¡`¹⌐! Π!

thejonymyster

@noodleman nah that was instant recognition

lyxal

@lyxal I golféd a byte

and somehow it still vyncodes poorly

noodle man

@lyxal now try adding a different byte to see if it'll vyncode better :p

lyxal

the compressed strings contain infrequently used byte patterns so ofc it's gonna be same byte count or more :p

noodle man

00:54

kinda wanna try it with japt's compression now

noodle man

01:05

Japt, 22 bytes `Ba! Num{É ç" num"}!

i remembered to escape the backslash this time lol

lyxal

mmm unprintables :p

noodle man

that's what japt gets for using iso-8859-1

oh here's a japt trick that just came to mind that's really weird and only comes in handy in certain situations (not this): japt transpiles code like mc to .m("c"), because it treats that string as a function, but you can abuse this to get 2-character strings for 1 byte less. x"ab" can be reduced to xbia which becomes x("a".i("b")) (i is for insert, default position 0)

now that's an FCCF gonna try my best to make this goofy acronym take off

lyxal

Friday Courtroom Cancellation Fiasco?

noodle man

yesterday, by The Empty String Photographer

FCCF (Fun Cursed Code Fact): In Python, you can type annotate a variable with any object, not just a type object, meaning a : 3 = 3 is valid Python code.

fire charizard chars fiend

lyxal

First Come Cirst Ferved

noodle man

01:20

frick crick crikey frick

are you the australian one in this chatroom? i don't remember

lyxal

that would be me

there's also ATaco

and JoKing

noodle man

you people say crikey right?

oops o/

lyxal

that would be us

noodle man

i undo my o/ for i have returned

fried chicken for christmas

wait wrong order

for christmas, chicken fried

emanresu A

01:38

@lyxal 13

lyxal

wow I really don't know my own language

ATaco

06:43

CMC: Given an float, return the first integer multiple of it. 2.5 -> 5.

Bubbler

hypothetical golflang, literate mode: double while % 1

just to be clear, is the answer to 1/3 = 0.010101010101...01 not 1 but 10101010101...01?

(in binary)

thejonymyster

uh do i have to handle float weirdness

ive never seen a float fail at adding before now

Bubbler

oh right

can we assume the input float is normal (not nan/inf/denormal)?

thejonymyster

thats fair but what i meant is in my current sol, 2.5 works but 2.3 gives 9637 because apparently 16.1+2.3=18.400000000000002 and it all goes downhill from there

Bubbler

oh, that wouldn't work

thejonymyster

06:56

evidently but

cmaaaaan

for posterity i was trying this f=(n,m=n)=>n%1?f(n+m,m):n which i like the shape of

Bubbler

that's what you get if you add two floats of different exponent

thejonymyster

ah

oh ignore the log

managed to remove it in time lol i was trying to figure out what was going wrong

ok this should work then f=(n,m=1)=>n*m%1?f(n,m+1):n*m (seems to in my few tests)

Neil

09:33

Charcoal, 18 bytes: B…an⁵! N…um n⊗⊖⊗Ｎ!

thejonymyster

nice

0

A: Golf you a quine for great good!

Headascii, 4182 bytes +OU++++++++OU+++++++OU+++++++++OU+OU+OU+OU+OU+OU+++++++++++++OU++++OU++++OU++++OU++++OU+++++++++++++OU++++OU++++OU+++++++++++++OU++OU+++OU+++++++++OU+++++++++++++++++++OU+++++OU++++OU++++OU++++++++++++++OU++++++++++OU+OU+OU+OU+OU+OU+OU++++++++++OU++++++OU++++OU+OU+OU+OU+++++...

I'm sooooo good at golfing guys check out this sweet sweet quine very #short

noodle man

11:01

can’t tell if it’s beautiful or horrific

i’m gonna go with both

math scat

11:13

@thejonymyster Indeed, ou.

Ginger

11:38

OU moment

Bbrk24

13:12

Not sure that this is ever useful but desmos lets you differentiate with respect to pi — \frac{d}{d\pi} \pi^2 for example

Sandbox Posts

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Ginger

@SandboxPosts what

DialFrost

14:26

heyyy

Ginger

welcome back!

DialFrost

:)

does anyone know the link to the question "scanner" thing? (i dont remember the name of it)

oh right the query

I remember someone sending a link for questions that don't have an answer in a speciifc language yet

Ginger

15:17

hey @cairdcoinheringaahing, do mods have a method of figuring out a network user's chat account?

or chat parent, for that matter?

Seggan

15:34

hehe i just realized im still ste as on strike on this site :P

thejonymyster

@mathscat it used to be better, there was a long string of (OU)RPs i ended up golfing / correcting

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Ginger

16:03

@Ginger nvm, figured it out :D

DLosc

16:25

@Bubbler That's very close to what it would be in FunStack, if FunStack supported floats: Last Double Mod 2 while

(the difference being that while returns a list of results and stops before the first one that fails the condition, so the stop condition has to be divisibility by 2 and then we take the last element of the result list)

thejonymyster

oh i forgot about fun stack! ive been out a while, hows that going?

DLosc

It's not :D I haven't been working on programming languages much lately

thejonymyster

ok fair lol, hope whatever youre up to has been fulfilling nonetheless :P

DLosc

:)

I've accepted that I have too many interests to do all of them all the time, and my interests go in irregular cycles. So I'll be back to language development at some point.

mousetail

I think that's a healthy approach

Don't do things you find fun so excessively that they stop being fun

thejonymyster

16:37

yea basically same deal here, im just now cycling around to cg again lol

Simd

18:04

CMC give code to solve ibb.co/7WTp657

(I don't know got to paste an image here)

Seggan

theres rydwolfs paste to upload but never worked for me

Simd

If anyone can paste it that would be great

Seggan

oh wait it just worked

how

also github.com/Radvylf/userscripts/raw/main/paste-to-upload.user.js if ya want the link

Simd

Can you paste my image?

Seggan

Simd

18:21

Thanks!

mousetail

@Simd Easiest way is to paste to discord then copy the link here

Simd

@mousetail oh wow

Seggan

(or use the paste to upload script)

Simd

Now we just need code :)

mousetail