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Q: 4D rotation matrix to quaternions

Parcly TaxelIt is well-known that a 3D rotation can always be represented by a quaternion. It is less well-known that a 4D rotation can always be represented by two quaternions, sending a point \$p=(a,b,c,d)^T\$ represented as the quaternion \$a+bi+cj+dk\$ to the point \$p'=xpy\$ for an appropriate choice of...

 
12:28 AM
@Jacob yep
argh russian keyboard on again
 
 
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2:21 AM
Anyone know of a userscript/other thing that stops you from deleting GitHub branches with open PRs?
I can totally imagine myself accidentally deleting a branch, not seeing that it's been deleted, and going away so that it can't be restored anymore, so I'd like some sort of confirmation message, something like "Are you sure you want to delete this branch? There is an open PR involving it"
 
 
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6:12 AM
@Seggan oh neat, i didn't even realize that existed
 
6:39 AM
@RydwolfPrograms Every practlang should be able to, as long as the hardware has a TRNG and it can call OS APIs
 
 
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10:05 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Dannyu NDosTernary 2-input logic gate Objective Given an expression of a ternary 2-input logic gate, pretty-print its truth table. Ternary logic and ternary operators L, E, and G are the truth values of the ternary logic dealt here. They correspond to Haskell's LT, EQ, and GT. The expression can have two fr...

 
10:30 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Parcly TaxelA Fine sequence with fine interpretations code-golfintegersequence The ubiquitous Catalan numbers \$C_n\$ count the number of Dyck paths, sequences of up-steps and down-steps of length \$2n\$ that start and end on a horizontal line and never go below said line. Many other interesting sequences ca...

 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Fhuvi"Candy Crush" a String Given a non-empty String (or an Integer if you prefer) composed exclusively of digits in the range [1-9], your task is to apply a "Match-3 type of rule" from left to right and output the result, like this : "12223" -> "13" Meaning, while parsing the String from left to rig...

 
 
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1:04 PM
About to post this: https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25584/91213

Any last minute feedback?
 
lgtm!
 
@mousetail while→whole
 
@Adám Thanks
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing the voting for best-of 2022 has finished
 
:D
I helped! :b
 
1:14 PM
For the first time, I've managed to win a non-divided bounty prize :p
 
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Q: Whole Number Groups

mousetailGiven a list of fractions, group them so that each group sums to a whole number. This should be done in such a way to maximize the number of non-empty groups. You may assume a solution exists. Order does not matter, both for the groups and their contents. You may output in any order. Test Cases ...

 
@UnrelatedString yeah baptists and pentecostals were the ones more persecuted during soviet times (dont get me wrong, they werent the only ones). most baptists are in the us now afaik
 
@mousetail for the 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2 case, why isn't (1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2) a valid output?
 
@lyxal You need to optimize for maximum number of groups
Otherwise you could just output the whole set every timme
 
wait so did xnor's comment win best math insight?
 
1:25 PM
@mousetail can I take the fractions as fraction objects if the language I'm using supports exact fractions?
 
@lyxal Yes, updated
@Seggan I am unsure if it was participating or not. Normally all comments are removed prior to the voting but now it's confusing
 
@NewPosts me on my way to make a horribly inefficient solution
 
Looking forward to seeing it
 
it's timing out for basically everything but the first two test cases, so I don't know if it works or not :P
 
The second case is somewhat representative, for the first case the majority of answers would be valid so finding one doesn't say much
 
1:35 PM
totally unrelated cmc: given a list of N items, output how many sublists exist in that list
 
@lyxal What is a sublist?
 
consecutive elements or not?
 
unique?
 
[1, 2, 3] -> [[[1], [2], [3]], [[1, 2], [3]], [[1], [2, 3]], [[1, 2, 3]]]
 
@lyxal post has been locked
 
1:37 PM
@Adám turns out I meant partitions
sorry about that
got my terminologies mixed up there
 
@lyxal (I chose this way of phrasing the challenge specifically because few languages had a built in for this)
 
@lyxal Brachylog, 4 bytes: ~cᶠl
 
@Seggan I think, no, as some of the comment score happened before the voting, and it wasn't actually nominated
@lyxal For simplicities sake, we'll go with the votes as they are now, and I'll cast any tie-breaker votes if needed as I can't vote on my own comments
 
That's what I expected would happen, but just in case people did a little last minute voting :p
 
2:07 PM
Hmmph, hello there TNB
I'm now trying to post one challenge per day, usually shortly after 8am UTC+8
And I have a vague idea for an "extended Piet" using 256 colours, but haven't reified it yet
 
@ParclyTaxel A very ambitous goal. I'd strongly encourage you to go for quality over quantitty
 
In cross-stack news, I am nearing 100000 reputation on MathsSE
 
you ... what.
 
oh good does that mean you can explain a formula I saw earlier today?
 
@Neil Which formula
@mathcat what are you referring to? Yes, I'm now 1900 away
 
2:20 PM
@ParclyTaxel in math.stackexchange.com/a/3647995 he says We only need x^10, and also the denominator is the generating function for the triangular numbers divided by x, so we can immediately state:
I wanted to see whether I could calculate the coefficient of x^4 in ((1 - x)^3/(1-x))^10
 
@ParclyTaxel 100,000 is a lot :d
 
but at the time I gave up and plugged it into wolfram alpha
@mathcat apparently it's not that much on math, he's still only on page 3 of users there
 
huh
 
while on cgse that would put you 8th all-time
 
It's one of the oldest of all the Stacks, MathsSE
And there are people who do nothing but chug at questions 24/7/365
 
2:26 PM
And you are one of those people?
 
One of those is Jose Carlos Santos, whom I have a rivalry with
I am not one of those hardcore answerers. I have had other commitments over the years
Other names come to mind easily. Did. Hagen von Eitzen. Brian M. Scott. The list goes on
But yes, even I know that 100000 on any SE is a monument
You remember LeBron passing Kareem?
 
10000 is already a monument IMHO
 
In my first 100 days on MathsSE, my "home" Stack, I endeavoured to get at least 100 reputation a day. I achieved that
 
I have no idea how you can get rep that quick.
I've been lurking here for a while, but almost everyone has 3 times my rep now.
 
Being on a site with more than a handful of questions a day probably helps :p
 
2:36 PM
There was a time when I had more rep than Aaron :/
 
Even on SO I can get nowhere close, I only find a question worth answering every few months
Then it gives me like 10 rep
 
@RydwolfPrograms probably, I don't answer that much though.
My question-answer ratio is about 7/10.
 
Even now it's fairly easy to consistently get 200 rep on MathsSE a day
I have the Legendary badge there. Even more exclusive than the 100K club there, IIRC
And the reason for the ease of getting reputation is because every semester secondary school/polytechnic/JC/university students will dump all the questions they don't know how to answer there
It is the September that always ends...
 
@WheatWizard This message now has more characters in its star count than its content :p
 
2:52 PM
@mathcat lol same
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

mousetailRoute Planning for a delivery driver There is a town that consists of a single long road with evenly spaced houses. Each house either needs rice, represented with a negative number, or can provide rice, represented with a positive number. [-1, 50, -1, -1, -1, -50, 3, 1] Here, the first house nee...

 
3:33 PM
@mousetail same
 
4:32 PM
@ParclyTaxel how da hell u get that much rep a day
@ParclyTaxel bruh i wish i was smart enough to solve those questions, but i only learn up to single var calculus lol
i can barely find any q's on mathse that i can do, only consistent way of getting rep was through asking questions
and ig suggested edits when i was <2k
 
@AidenChow Tbf, they do have a degree in mathematics
 
lol true
im still surprised how i manage to have 2k rep on mathse lol
and my SO rep is even worse, i can barely find any q's to answer, i gave up on that
 
waves for no reason other than to say hello
 
@ThomasWard :wave:
 
hello!
 
4:39 PM
well generally that, or saying goodbye, is the reason most people wave so I would not say that is particularly peculiar
also *waves back*
 
@hyper-neutrino ye but the random appearance of a non Code Golf mod sometimes makes people wonder "Uhoh what did we do" xD
and forget that some of us just lurk here because this is a chill group I like to be among :P
 
that's fair xD I do find myself feeling slightly concerned when non-CGCC mods drop by even though I am a mod myself and probably do the same to other people whenever I hop into off-site rooms lol
 
@ThomasWard honestly, at this point, what haven't we done? :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing anything that angers me to the point of summoning CMs to torch the site? :P
@hyper-neutrino ye but then there's just eventually the "Oh, it's them again, no worries they're a regular" so :P
it's more of a concern when I have to hop into a math.se room >.>
 
@ThomasWard hides coup plans Yeah, guess we haven't done that
 
4:42 PM
because then we know something's going down XD
 
@ThomasWard relatable :/
funny that you mention that cuz someone once complained about me hanging around in math.SE rooms and accused me of not moderating my own site
 
damn so many diamonds on screen rn lol
 
@hyper-neutrino hate to be evil BUT
 
@ThomasWard I would say relatable, but at this point, I don't deal with math chat rooms
 
mathse people are..............
 
4:42 PM
as though I'm not allowed to be elsewhere as a mod. it's funny cuz I was a regular in the main math.SE room before I became a mod
 
not exactly the most stable when it comes to people.
 
but i digress
just wanted to stop in and wave after an egregiously long absense from chat.se xD
 
@AidenChow I have twice as many diamonds :P
 
oh are you running the chat improvement userscript
 
4:43 PM
Yeah :P
Me and you have 2, Thomas only has one :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing then you have to ask yourself: how many autoflaggers does SmokeDetector have across the SE network
 
what, how 2?
 
and then realize I run the core infra for SmokeDetector and CHQ so
 
@ThomasWard at least 4
 
yep :P so how many 'diamonds' do I really have xD
tased
nah i probably could get some diamonds easy from some of the other sites i contribute to
 
4:45 PM
*casually revokes autoflag access for no particular reason*
 
but i just don't need it. i have enough leadership hats on the Ubuntu universe of things (Community Council, Devel Membership Board, a few others) :P
 
@ThomasWard thats why CGCC is the best :P
 
@hyper-neutrino :P
 
caird
coinheringaahin
g
 
4:46 PM
This is what shows in my screen, which is why I say 2 diamonds :P
@hyper-neutrino That's my name
 
caird g. middle name coinheringaahin
 
It's canonically pronounced "co-inhering-aahin [awkward pause] guh"
 
Damn, no need to dox me
Also, new username :P
 
on my screen caird's combined name and pronouns are so large there's a noticeable gap between a message they sent and messages following it :p
 
Yeah, same for me
 
4:48 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing reads your profile, realizes any pronouns work, and just decides to name you "Entity 66833" for no particular reason
 
my pronouns are [object Object]
 
@ThomasWard You are more than welcome to call me "Entity 66833" :P
 
wait howd yall get that pronoun thingy
 
@Seggan userscript
 
@Ginger The classic noun-cast-to-pronoun bug
 
4:49 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing heheh. also helps that that's your user # on CGCC :P
but since you don't seem to have any offense to it, I'll just refer to you by your name here :P
tab completion is a thing :)
sips caffeine
 
@Ginger where
 
wait it IS? how did I not know about this
 
idk
 
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Q: Pronoun Assistant

Glorfindel Screenshot / Code Snippet About It's hard to miss these days - the Code of Conduct is about to change. It will emphasize the importance of using the correct pronoun when referring to a user in third person. This most often comes up in chat, and some users already have information about which...

@hyper-neutrino what is what?
 
tab completion on pings
I legit did not know that was a feature
 
4:51 PM
Yeah, it's very helpful :P
 
serious?
@cairdcoinheringaahing ty
 
lol
 
Tbf, I mostly just reply instead of pinging
 
^
 
why are yall so shocked? every day 10000 people in the US alone learn about tab completion in SEChat mentions d:
 
4:54 PM
@Ginger lol same
 
 
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6:13 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing hey, that's kinda cool
I don't want to sacrifice my about-section though
 
@mathcat iirc, you can have other things there too, and it won't affect the system.
 
Yeah: look at my (very) long abouts :P
 
Maybe the user script could be amended with detection of the presence of a few invisible characters that won't cost you more than a single profile character.
 
6:31 PM
hmm okay
 
7:05 PM
works! :D
 
@Adám That would mean that people without the script couldn't see your pronouns
 
7:21 PM
@RydwolfPrograms True, but better than nothing.
Although it might be controversial, ♂, ♀, ⚥ could be used as shorthand for he/him, she/her, and they/their.
 
What about she/they? ♀⚥? :P
 
I can't imagine many situations where they/them couldn't be fit in with some slight rewording or something
It's just 9/150 characters
 
@mathcat While you're joking, I'm genuinely curious about the practice of specifying exactly two pronouns though 1. more exist 2. one is generally sufficient.
I assume that she/him/their is rare.
 
I don't think anybody has different genders of pronouns for the different forms
mathcat's talking about people who have multiple different sets of pronouns they're fine with
 
So why the prevalence of he/him, she/her, etc.?
 
7:33 PM
I've seen constructs like "they/she" used as shorthand for "they/them or she/her"
 
yeah, I usually do that
 
OK, but that just builds on the existing practice of specifying both those pronouns.
 
@Adám it sounds better and makes it more clear that you're referring to pronouns specifically
 
@Adám I think it's just a convention that's stuck
^^
 
7:34 PM
like if I just put they in my bio that'd be confusing
 
but, but, we're code golfers!
 
good point.
 
^
 
It does create ambiguity with "he/they" and stuff, but since it's generally pretty clear which form is which (even for most obscure neopronouns), that's not much of an issue
 
@Adám cairds is
 
7:35 PM
(Plus with obscure neopronouns it tells you the two most important forms instead of just one, so you don't have to guess and/or google for a direct object form)
 
real code golfers have single-character names and use t/t pronouns
 
@RydwolfPrograms Well, if I specify xe/zy then you don't really know how to refer to something that's mine, do you?
 
just google it, we're programmers too :b
 
No, but it's better than nothing
And there's like six forms of every pronoun, that'd get long fast
 
@Ginger Programmers would make sure to specify the spec fully!
 
7:37 PM
Really, for completeness, one would need to list four forms: they/them/their/theirs
 
She/he/they
Her/him/them
Her/his/their
Hers/his/theirs
Herself/himself/themself (?)
 
Oh yeah, reflexive too
 
@RydwolfPrograms russian go brr
 
I think if you just put one pronoun into your bio on its own nobody would get what you meant, like if I just wrote "he" it would probably be confusing
 
@RydwolfPrograms themselves.
 
7:38 PM
I think that's for plural they
 
but if I just put "he/him" on its own people would know it's pronouns, so if I want to specify two sets then I can just write "he/they"
 
@Adám p:he
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing You don't actually use those like that.
 
yeah I don't often see people use like she for subject and him for object (or rather I probably haven't seen that myself before, though I'm sure at least one person somewhere in the world does)
 
7:40 PM
As in "she thought to himself that it was their computer"? No, I've never seen something like that
 
I think that'd probably just be confusing more than anything
 
> Caird said he would bring their bag themselves.
 
@Adám in russian "he" would be: on (nominative), yego (genetive), yemu (dative), yego (accusative), im (instrumental), nyom (prepositional), so i hope the russian SOers dont put every form of their pronoun in their bio :P
 
I have probably done that before lol. I have a tendency to use they/them on everyone if I'm not paying attention and so sometimes I'll start writing with she/her pronouns and then get distracted and finish my message with they/them pronouns lol
 
@Seggan Latin time!
 
7:42 PM
@Seggan Quite the opposite; they should — otherwise, how in the would would we figure all that out‽
 
Yeah, if I was to specify every pronoun I'm comfortable with people using for me in every declination, I'd have to put "he/him/his/she/her/hers/they/them/their" which is just needlessly long, when "he/she/they" gets the point across
 
@hyper-neutrino Oh I do that same thing...using he/him or she/her for people IRL even feels weird lol
 
Why do pronouns even exist? :d
 
We should all just say "that specific individual" and exchange knowing glances
 
I don't really care what people call me, but I suppose that's irrelevant since I'm a white cis hetero male.
 
7:44 PM
we should assign everyone an entity UUID based on the order in which they spawned into the world
 
"she" would be ona, yeyo, yey, yeyo, yey, ney
 
@Adám Actually, its the opposite of irrelevant
 
We can just have MAC addresses
 
People mis-gender my boys all the time, probably more often than not, actually.
 
Hi, I'm Human#106902417384. Pleased to meet you!
 
7:45 PM
Some people care. Some people don't. The norm should be that people don't care, and that people address each other in the most neutral way they can. And, if they happen to make a mistake and address someone who does care in a way they dislike, they apologise and correct themselves.
 
I'm 250685-2571 (yes, actually).
 
@mathcat Pronouns exist because pronouns are convenient. If people didn't have pronouns, people would have to repeat nouns every time those same people wanted to refer to the same things those same people had previously referred to. :P
 
Pronouns exist because they're golfier than names.
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@DLosc Isn't the "those" in "those same" a pronoun?
 
its an adverb i think
 
7:47 PM
@DLosc ... I shouldn't have asked that in TNB.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing For example, I'm much more "permissive" than a lot of people: I don't care if people use he, she or they for me. However, I dislike people using neopronouns for me, because I don't think they "fit" me
 
@RydwolfPrograms Dangit! I mean, dang the thing that... I don't even know how to finish that expression without a pronoun
 
whats a neopronoun
 
Ones like ze/zir, vi/vim, etc.
Artificial typically gender-neutral pronouns
 
TBH the main reason I vaguely care about what pronouns people call me is for consistency and to avoid confusion. I really don't actually care what pronouns people use for me online (IRL I sorta care, but I sort of see my online identity separately to my IRL one) but since I've always gone by he/him primarily, if people used she/her other people might be confused who they're referring to lol
 
7:48 PM
TIL vim is a pronoun.
 
I only remember that one because we were joking it would break the pronoun script :p
 
@emanresuA Nu would like a word.
 
@RydwolfPrograms ... what
 
You don't see them often, probably since English kinda already has a gender-neutral pronoun
 
@hyper-neutrino You mean "who she's referring to", no? ;-)
 
7:50 PM
*sigh* english moment
(I assume the joke is "who (she the word)'s referring to"?)
 
@Seggan Generally speaking, you won't see people using them outside of queer groups/circles
 
@hyper-neutrino yup.
 
as far as i see it, "he" is the default unknown gender pronoun in english (and russian), so i use "he" unless told not to
 
Heh, I could rightfully claim my pronouns were who/low.
 
@Seggan That's considered pretty outdated in English
 
7:52 PM
@Seggan That has become controversial, lately.
 
well then im a dinosaur
 
You mean to say you identify as a dinosaur? I respect that.
 
Which pronouns would you prefer, then?
 
Rawr
But this is kinda uncomfortably close to attack-helicopter-joke-territory isn't it
 
Are dynamic pronouns allowed?
 
7:56 PM
what exactly do you mean by dynamic pronouns?
 
(and what do you mean by allowed? :P)
 
If you mean pronouns that change over time: yes. I've changed the set of pronouns I've used repeatedly over the years
 
Well, in reading order, there'll usually be a pronoun somewhere in the context before and after mine. If we consider the three standard sets, he/him… and he/her… and they/them, then I could ask to be referred to using the one that is different from both the previous and next pronouns in the context.
 
Yeah, you could
It'd be unusual to specifically request that, but it's entirely fine to do so
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Ooh, good idea. he/him 00–08, she/her 08–16, and they/them 16–24, all in my time zone (please respect my daylight savings time!)
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8:00 PM
That's actually something I was going to bring up a short bit ago: a set of pronouns that are all gender-neutral that you shift between to remive ambiguity
If everyone's they/them it gets confusing, and gender's probably not the best thing to use as a conditional for which pronoun
 
True
What about IQ?
 
@RydwolfPrograms uno/una/uno's, duo/dua/duo's, treo/trea/treo's?
 
The o/a seems like it could be misheard easily
 
> uno thought to unoself that it was uno's computer
 
Maybe uno/un/uno's, du/duo/du's, treo/tre/treo's
 
8:05 PM
yeah something like that. rough draft for further work
 
@RydwolfPrograms TBH that sounds a lot like just using people's names instead of pronouns :P
alternatively, just use a language with better context markers than english cuz english is just ambiguous
 
Maybe there should be an...assignment operator word. Like, you could map any word as a pronoun :p
Let's make that word "sna"
 
@RydwolfPrograms Petition to standardize on nominative form ending with a vowel, add -m for accusative, add -s for genitive
 
So "hyper sna they went to the store, where they bought bread for their friend"
and you can do fun code injection attacks on people's linguistic processing
"Rydwolf sna the"
 
Esperanto has sensible pronouns iirc
 
8:07 PM
@RydwolfPrograms Good luck parsing sentences after hearing this
@emanresuA Doesn't it do the "female is just male with a suffix" thing tho?
 
be like japanese and just don't use pronouns whenever it's possible
 
…this isn’t code golf; what happened here?
 
Not a fan of constructed languages that continue sexist language features when they don't need to
 
@ATaco Just use digits to refer to named people in the order they appeared.
 
@RydwolfPrograms Also, obligatory American Sign Language reference
 
8:10 PM
@RydwolfPrograms golf sna code
code code
@RydwolfPrograms YES
@RydwolfPrograms who said grammatical gender is sexist
uh oh a mod
 
@ATaco This isn't code golf, so the shortest doesn't win
 
heretic
 
@Seggan On its own it's not, but when a language's grammar considers the social majority gender the default that's problematic
Natlangs can kinda get away with it I guess, but if you're inventing a language from the start, why include sexism when you can just not
Like I'm actually a pretty big fan of grammatical gender (not necessarily for humans, but for objects definitely), but you can do it in a symmetrical way
 
It's nice to have more choices for pronouns though
 
Again I say we should all switch to Indonesian
 
8:16 PM
@RydwolfPrograms agree. i love how everything in russian is gendered
@mousetail especially when you have Six Cases™
iirc russian has ~3 more ill formed cases; as in most words dont have a declination to that gender
 
@RydwolfPrograms Not a fan of the neutral gender, but otherwise they're pretty cool
 
Well IMO grammatical gender should be completely unrelated to actual gender
It's just a way to make pronouns more useful
 
I personally find grammatical gender to just be unnecessary complication but that's just my opinion :P
 
Grammatical gender done right has no cost, and it reduces ambiguity with the word "it"
 
isn't there the cost of learning what gender every word is though
 
8:19 PM
The gender should be clear from the word itself
 
@RydwolfPrograms See also: noun classes
 
E.g., how in Spanish most words ending in o are masuline and most ending in a are feminine
 
oh I guess that's fair
 
tbh russian gendering is kinda weird when combined with casing
 
IIRC Swedish has four grammatical genders, two for humans and two for objects
 
8:20 PM
and I guess if you make it so conjugations don't change with gender (unlike french lol) it wouldn't complicate grammar
 
also i think articles and linking verbs are a waste
again, russian has no articles and linking verbs are rarely used
 
@Seggan You'd probably like Latin
 
I have mixed feelings on articles, it is nice to be able to clarify whether something has already been mentioned
Maybe only make one of them mandatory. So "a car" is just "car" but "the car" is always "the car"
Or the reverse
 
you can always add "some" in russian
 
@RydwolfPrograms You'd probably like Koine Greek ;P
 
8:24 PM
i.e. "some elephant" is "an elephant", but "elephant" is "the elephant"
or "one elephant" can stand for "an elephant"
 
what's a linking verb?
 
is, was, are, etc
 
oh, those
 
also russian likes to omit prepositions thanks to casing
which i also love
russian is golfy if not for the length of words
 
I like is/was since they add redundancy
English is really good at redundancy
Really can you get wrong the grammar to a degree significant and still ambiguous it isn't
 
8:27 PM
@RydwolfPrograms IDK, I think a language that has to mark case, gender, and number on every article, adjective, and noun (and sometimes verbs too) is arguably more redundant than English
 
@DLosc I'm rather fond of Latin, even though some grammatical choices are ... odd, to say the least.
 
@DLosc i disagree
russian uses casing and gender a ton, but that allows it to omit articles, linking verbs, prepositions, etc
since you know the intent by declension
 
That's what DLosc's saying :p
It's more redundant
 
why
(articles dont exist in russian, so thats not redundancy)
any not-too-long sentence can be put in any order and ull be understood
 
Language is inelligant and inefficient.
 
8:32 PM
@Seggan This is an example of redundancy
 
@RydwolfPrograms I read up on this, and it's interesting! It didn't solve the issues around gender and personal pronouns, tho.
 
From now on, we must communicate via vibe alone
 
@RydwolfPrograms Well, assuming they aren't removed
If they always are then the reundancy has been traded off for compactness I guess
 
@Seggan Yeah, I was thinking more of languages that have lots of agreement and articles and fairly fixed word order
Russian and English sound like they both have some amount of redundancy in different ways
 
@Seggan Maybe there could be just 3 arbitrary gramatical genders based simply on the last letter of your name
 
8:34 PM
Reject natlangs, embrace katlani
It's efficient and elegant :p
(I really love how much flexibility it allowed, I still think if English was replaced by katlani we'd all be happier :p)
 
@RydwolfPrograms btw, how long does the typing thing persist in ur userscript? it keeps flashing for me
 
Yeah same. I think it's bugged
 
Which userscript are y'all talking about?
 
8:47 PM
Can somebody plz type something? :p
 
Done :p
 
hmm
 
I see your typing notifs
 
Oh, it's working, nice.
This is scary lmao
 
Scary?
Are you afraid you'll suddenly get typing notifications from something in your attic in the middle of the night? :p
Unrelated have y'all ever considered that someone might hide in your attic and when you're asleep that overhead trapdoor thing will slowwwly open up, and a thin dark figure will silently unfold the ladder and sneak toward your room
 
8:54 PM
@RydwolfPrograms I do hope it doesn't start saying "Your favourite blender is typing...".
 
Or will it
 
uh oh
time to change my username
 
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