The Nineteenth Byte

Bubbler

00:07

If the latter, please follow the schedule (I can't guarantee I can post mine on weekends)

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Q: CGAC2022 Day 14: Chimney cleaning

Part of Code Golf Advent Calendar 2022 event. See the linked meta post for details. As we all know, Santa comes down the chimney to deliver presents to good kids. But chimneys are normally full of smoke, and the Elves are worried about Santa's health. So they decide to blow the smoke out using a...

Radvylf Programs

Since when has "proprietary" been a selling point...

UndoneStudios

07:21

bonjour

@Adám Seriously the jerks in my class try opening duckduckgo and search porn in my laptop

which is prohibited here

hyper-neutrino

why are you ping-replying to adam to say that?

UndoneStudios

because that img has duckduckgo option

mousetail

Still not related to the message

UndoneStudios

but that

is the only img with ddg

I can't find anything else

hyper-neutrino

a) you don't need to have context to say something b) you also don't need to say everything that comes to mind in chat

UndoneStudios

07:30

nod

emanresu A

09:10

this is so cool

caird coinheringaahing

09:38

@Adám Oh cool, didn't know I was a bot, that makes things much less stressful :P

mousetail

That sounds like something a bot would say

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám A51 is likely to be fixed first, because SE is very openly trying to redo the way they create new sites. Like, there's been a couple really bad things happen with A51 sites (example) that haven't happened with chat

lyxal

12:31

@emanresuA my goodness, it's never ending!

Neil

13:37

@Adám event.preventDefault();

Ginger

@Bubbler sorry, I forgot to actually post it :/

Neil

@Adám does your keyboard not have a context menu button, or is it just inconveniently placed for you?

pxeger

@RadvylfPrograms I think the purpose of a context menu is to give you faster access to menu options that exist elsewhere (like back/forwards), and to provide options that can't go elsewhere, like copy image

(in which case, why is the QR code option not available anywhere else?)

Neil

@RadvylfPrograms well, you didn't click on anything with any context, but it thought you were too lazy to use the hamburger menu, so gave you some items that people commonly want

pxeger

@Neil On most keyboards it's near the bottom right, isn't it? That's quite inconvenient compared to where your fingers sit for most typing

Ginger

13:51

Any final feedback on codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25389/108218?

pxeger

And caps lock is far too conveniently placed for what it does

@Ginger What is a country? What are their two-letter codes? What are locale settings? Needs a lot more detail.

Ginger

@pxeger it's fine for me, I just slide my hand down a bit or use my index finger if I only have to press one button (like shift)

pxeger

Oh I forgot that normal people use the right shift key

I guess it's not too inconvenient then

Ginger

Feb 21 at 18:07, by user

Before we discuss this further, we need to define what a "leg" is /srs

pxeger

If I run it in Guernsey, should I get gg, gb, or uk?

Ginger

13:54

@pxeger that depends on the locale setting of the computer

> I could easily set the locale to Antartica while being in Britain.

pxeger

But is Guernsey a distinct country from the UK? glibc gives it a separate code to the rest of the UK, but it's definitely part of the UK.

If I have my language set to British English, but my timezone set to China, and my units of measurement locale option set to Irish, what should I get?

Ginger

hmm

I'd define it as whatever /etc/default/locale says

but I don't actually have a Debian Linux computer on hand to test with

and /etc/default/locale can be empty...

yeah, this isn't a very good challenge

pxeger

@Ginger that file does not exist on the debian docker image I just tested

Neil

14:15

@pxeger if I'm browsing the web then I'm not usually doing a lot of typing...

Radvylf Programs

pxeger's a vim user though

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14:49

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Approximate my Atomic Weight code-challenge Each element on the Periodic Table of the Elements has an atomic weight. For example, boron (element 5) has an atomic weight of 10.81. Your challenge is to write a program which takes as input the number of an element and outputs its atomic weight. Your...

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms I think I've seen this image before

Radvylf Programs

I've used it no less than three times here :p

Ginger

that'd explain it

the best part is that it works for vim and emacs users

Catija

15:09

I'm going to post my proposed question later today once WB starts, so if anyone has any last thoughts about it, please save me from the embarrassment of having my question closed now or forever withhold your close votes. :P

Ginger

@Catija link?

Radvylf Programs

Do we have to correctly handle situations where all letters in the word are known?

Ginger

oh yeah 5 hours until Winter Bash!

Radvylf Programs

E.g., if in one of the space there are four different yellow letters and one green one.

Oh I have an idea

Requiring that all yellow letters are used somewhere in the word would fix that

And I think that's probably what you want, it just isn't explicitly part of the rules from what I can tell

Catija

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Clutch Wordle Solver with known inputs Sometimes when you're playing Wordle, you get to your fifth guess and you can't figure out the word any more, so you start mentally running through the list of remaining iterations, both sensical and nonsensical trying to figure out what those last few lette...

Radvylf Programs

15:13

Also, are we allowed to take the lists of letters/indices as maps, or as arrays with nulls?

E.g., for the green letters, could I take ["a", null, null, "c", null] instead of [["a", 0], ["c", 3]]

Ginger

@Catija I don't see any obvious problems

also, feedback on codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25391/108218?

Radvylf Programs

I assume those're supposed to be squared terms on top?

Catija

@RadvylfPrograms Good catch. I've added that to the output in an edit.

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms Otherwise I can get a score of 0 while being completely off on every single one

Catija

@RadvylfPrograms I... think so? I'm not a dev so I have no clue but I think that's fine?

Radvylf Programs

15:18

@Ginger Another issue: a lookup table gets score 0

No matter how big it is

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms oh, fair point :p

botched scoring go brr

Radvylf Programs

Multi-criterion scoring systems can be really hard to design well

Boring minmaxing is hard to prevent

Also, you should list all of the correct answers

Ginger

can do

Radvylf Programs

Different sources could give different values I think

Ginger

I will use ptable.com

@RadvylfPrograms perhaps I could do bytecount ^ (average accuracy + 1)? that way if you use a lookup table the score is that program's length in bytes

but that still doesn't feel right

Radvylf Programs

15:22

nvm

Ginger

I am not very good at math :b

Radvylf Programs

But yeah you really need to square those terms at the top

Ginger

the difference ones?

Radvylf Programs

Yeah

Otherwise if I'm off by -100 for hydrogen and +100 for helium I don't get a perfect score

Ginger

ok

@RadvylfPrograms do I have to add the table or can I just link to one?

I don't really want to type out 118 elements

Radvylf Programs

15:29

You need to include a hardcoded list

Ginger

yay

Radvylf Programs

The numbers on that site could change

@Ginger Just find a periodic table that that has a text-based format

E.g., this one

Although it lacks masses for the heavier elements. For those, just take them from another site, there's not many

gist.github.com/Radvylf/8bc3be071f3390448db2a9fb9644263d

There ya go

Merry christmas

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms thanks!

Radvylf Programs

You'll need to fill in 110 and 112-118 but that's why it's your homework :p

While we're in the feedback giving mood: Any feedback on KotH: Don't Kill the Curve!?

atzlt

15:53

I never understood the rules of KotH

My English is bad

PyGamer0

this is probably the worst code i have ever written

atzlt

I must say the spacing rule of PEP is sometimes annoying

Seggan

16:31

@RadvylfPrograms lgtm

Seggan

17:04

running python3 for some reason opened the microsoft store...

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms ok, did it

pxeger

You can install Python from the MS store, that's why

Ginger

@Seggan yeah, on Windows computers python and python3 open the ms store if they aren't installed

I have no clue why

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17:48

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The dating game king-of-the-hill The bots are looking for love. Can you help them? The rules The goal of this game is find the bot you have the highest comparability with. However, robots, who are inexperienced at dating are unable to tell how well a date went. In the game, bots take turns "speed...

Ginger

wait, did the winter bash timer increase

mousetail

18:42

@JoKing Any tips for solving code.golf/arrows in ><>?

00ii0(?;'.'%8-1g:&4%1-+$&3%1-+:n$:' 'onao10.
EFALIIBJDHAAAABJHDIIAAEFALAAEFALIIBJDH

Ginger

when you mention ><> and all you get is that EFALIIBJDHAAAABJHDIIAAEFALAAEFALIIBJDH stare

3

mousetail

Relatable

It's a surprisingly suitable language for this challenge, my naive ><> solution is better than the best one in most other langs

Catija

19:05

@Ginger Did it?

Ginger

I have no idea

I'm probably just hallucinating :p

Catija

It launches at 4 eastern...

Ginger

19:49

Feedback on codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25391/108218?

Ginger

20:14

45 minutes till WB!

Ginger

20:59

30 SECONDS TILL WINTER BASH

aaaaand

Winter Bash has begun!

pxeger

yay I opted out in record time this year

Ginger

imagine

Jo King

21:11

@mousetail you can do a much better hash string, mine is only 13 bytes long

Catija

21:28

What tags should I use??????

pxeger

what's the question?

Catija

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Clutch Wordle Solver with known inputs Sometimes when you're playing Wordle, you get to your fifth guess and you can't figure out the word any more, so you start mentally running through the list of remaining iterations, both sensical and nonsensical trying to figure out what those last few lette...

pxeger

code-golf word-puzzle are the obvious ones

emanresu A

~~data~~

Catija

Very tempted to use the data tag. :P

By the way, it should be any tag with the string data, not just "data" specifically.

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21:34

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Q: Clutch Wordle solver with known inputs

Sometimes when you're playing Wordle, you get to your fifth guess and you can't figure out the word any more, so you start mentally running through the list of remaining iterations, both sensical and nonsensical trying to figure out what those last few letters are. The task here is to create all ...

code-golf word-puzzle

Catija

WHEE!!!!

Ginger

:D

congraturlation!

Catija

Thanks!

emanresu A

Might want to edit the I/O stuff a bit:

6 hours ago, by Radvylf Programs

E.g., for the green letters, could I take ["a", null, null, "c", null] instead of [["a", 0], ["c", 3]]

Catija

I don't know that I understand enough what that request means so if someone wants to edit for me, that'd be cool with me.

emanresu A

21:38

Sure, will do

Are you okay with allowing taking a list of letters that a position's not, for each position? i.e. If you know that N's not in position 5, and E's not in position 3, ['','','E','','N']

@Catija ^

Catija

@emanresuA Isn't that what the second input is about?

emanresu A

Pretty much, this would just be a different way of formatting it

Catija

I don't have any personal formatting preferences... I'm not a coder so none of it makes sense to me :P

emanresu A

Okay

emanresu A

22:05

brb, need to play wordle to generate some testcases

hyper-neutrino

22:32

→ 69 messages moved to Winter / Summer Bash 2022

Jo King

nice

oof actually, that probably wasn't great since that room was pretty active (i assumed you'd moved it to a chatroom on this stack)

Ginger

as I said

hyper-neutrino

yeah I only realized afterwards that the message splicing causes everything to stop making sense

Ginger

@Seggan wait how tf do you have 10 hats

Seggan

my profile shows 10

Ginger

22:44

but you only have 9 hat icons

Seggan

ive got cakewalk

Ginger

what?

wait

I have cakewalk too, I think

Jo King

i mean, it is dec 15th

Seggan

not for me

Radvylf Programs

22:59

Is there a hat for tag wikis or sth, lots of free suggested edit reviews for me lol

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms There's one for suggested edits, and some people have too much rep to suggest edits to posts ;P

Catija

You can always get it on another site... I'm guessing you don't have 5k rep everywhere. :P

That said, I have a diamond everywhere so it's utterly impossible for me to get that hat.

Adám

23:27

@Neil Fn+RightCtrl… Ugh.

Neil

23:43

@Adám oh, a laptop?

Adám

Yeah.

Ginger

someone approve my tag wiki edit so I can get a hat!

Seggan

~~me first~~

Ginger

lyxal's beat the both of us!

durn secret hats

Seggan

nooooooooo

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

Ginger

23:54

The real hats were the friends we made along the way

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