The Nineteenth Byte

the count up forever program simply says "make every natural number be a member of this set"; the set just happens to represent output which causes an effect of the numbers being printed

Radvylf Programs

Yeah

So the output of the program is the set of natural numbers

If you want it to be ordered in some way, have a built-in for that, or use some clever set theory trickery to get something like that

Ginger

and then the interpreter, as part of displaying the results to the user, prints the set of natural numbers in order

that actually makes sense

Radvylf Programs

9:13 PM

The ordered version of the set would probably look something like {1 {2 {3 {4 {...}}}}}

Just like how strings look

Ginger

ah yes, {"H" {"e" {"l" {"l" {"o" {"," {" " {"W" {"o" {"r" {"l" {"d" {"!" {}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Radvylf Programs

Yep

Seggan

@Ginger imo it should be the other way around

{{{{"H"} "e"...

Ginger

we'll have to add a flag to the interpreter to make it automatically flatten sets like that d:

Radvylf Programs

If you're using plain sets, it'd be just as accurate to print w, d!oerHl

Steffan

9:16 PM

Y'all talking about some cursed lang?

Ginger

yes, we are

Radvylf Programs

@Seggan Wouldn't that mean that lazy lists would be evaluated from the end first?

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms mapping is a nice alternative

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms That makes the set of natural numbers basically impossible to represent

Seggan

@Steffan set theory, programmified

Ginger

9:17 PM

kinda

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms i mean for strings

Radvylf Programs

Why tho

Ginger

@Steffan the convo started here if you want to catch up

Radvylf Programs

It makes sense to make strings and lazy lists identical

Well, unless you want some weird duck-typing sort of thing

Or wait no

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms so they could be ordered...?

Radvylf Programs

9:19 PM

@RadvylfPrograms Sets are unordered so it would be indistinguishable from the reverse of the string as a lazy list

@Seggan not sure what you mean

Seggan

nvm i mixed my brains

Ginger

for some reason @hyper-neutrino and @Neil's PFPs never seem to consistently load, I always have to right-click and select "Load image"

weird

hyper-neutrino

that is because I am in superposition until observed so my PFP may or may not exist

Ginger

I mean you are a hyper neutrino so

Radvylf Programs

Local Canadian rescued from small box rigged with with poison gas

Seggan

9:22 PM

@Ginger ok so im thinking of representing stdout like this but backwards

Radvylf Programs

(Nonlocal Canadians are also a valid solution to General Relativity, assuming they can have complex mass)

Ginger

ffs I have a really funny comic for this but it's in a physics book and I can't find it online

time to do a bit of scanning

hyper-neutrino

@Ginger (hence the joke)

Ginger

to say it was a pain in the ass to get that photo would be quite an understatement

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> GENERAL RELATIVITY
> "The Universe is highly classified."

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