The Nineteenth Byte

DialFrost

00:01

ah

lmao

Steffan

iirc on my machine, it found a length 9 but it didn't work

inprecision

DialFrost

oof

i found a length 6 with inprecision as well

er why did the execution just stop?

Do I have to like stay in the same tab?

Steffan

No

Ran out of memory probably

or is your max length too low?

DialFrost

Idk

It's at 10

Hmm I've waited 5mins, it's still stuck at length 8

Its still running tho

emanresu A

Apparently kaggle's good

Steffan

00:17

Yeah, several people use it for weekgolf

Apparently it's fast

emanresu A

Speaking of weekgolf, you've been outgolfed

Unrelated String

wait isn't kaggle that like
ml competition website

emanresu A

Yeah but you get 48gb of ram and a full venv

joyoforigami

Feedback? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25333/113599

DialFrost

@joyoforigami I don't have any cuz I'm not terribly good at coming up with challenges, but maybe the "no solution" can be anything? Or even printing nothing

@Steffan how fast

what comp is it?

DialFrost

00:55

@Steffan why doesnt this work?

for x=1:10000
y=parse(Int,reverse("$x"))
if (all(x%i for i=2:x)&&all(y%i for i=2:y)&&y!=x)println(x)end
end

Jo King

you really need to learn how to debug stuff yourself rather than outsource it

DialFrost

@JoKing i tried

i didnt understand the error at all

Jo King

where it says no method matching *(::Bool, ::Nothing), you're using * on a bool and nothing

probably as a result of passing something weird to %

DialFrost

@JoKing exactly, i dont see that anywhere

@JoKing i tried vectorising, same error

oh lmao i got it

@JoKing its cuz theres no space btw print and the if statement

so julia thinks im if*print (since print is a nonetype)

Jo King

i should learn julia at some point

DialFrost

01:03

@JoKing why?

dont you know like, 50 langs?

Jo King

... wouldn't that be an indicator that I would learn more languages rather than less?

DialFrost

@JoKing er, im saying that you probably alr know julia

its way too similar to python

lyxal

I've been doing parser stuff with arity types and now the words nilad, monad, dyad and triad don't feel like words anymore

Steffan

01:23

@DialFrost no it isn't, you can code it like python if you want but there's always a better way

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DialFrost

@Steffan ye but its "similar' to python

wtf

guys how do you call a function? in ruby

in the form of f=->x{...}

Jo King

01:49

f[x]

DialFrost

@JoKing :facepalm: me doing f(x)

tysm

Steffan

@DialFrost that means they deleted their bytes solution

DialFrost

@Steffan thats so weird lmao

DialFrost

02:07

anyone know how to replace the first few consecutive chars of a string in ruby?

@DialFrost @Steffan?

forest

Would it be rude if I linked to duckduckgo.com/…?

In seriousness though, have you tried gsub?

DialFrost

@forest er ya

but its the "first few chars"

not all instances :/

@forest why rude? (i dont get it lol)

forest

@DialFrost It's one step from lmgtfy. :P

DialFrost

@forest lol

forest

I don't know Ruby, but in Perl you can use regex to do that.

DialFrost

02:20

awww

forest

Presumably you can do something similar in Ruby.

Also, g2g.

DialFrost

k cya

Aiden Chow

02:46

guys what u think about this sandbox post: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

i feel like its simple enough that i can just post it, i dont see any problems with it

DialFrost

05:27

@Steffan go go go ur like 1 challenge away from beating jayxon in dart!

UndoneStudios

06:37

@RadvylfPrograms what do ya think of area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/127456/…?

kinda amazing that we got 87 followers

emanresu A

We need 4x that for even a private beta

UndoneStudios

yeah but just in 2 days... amazing

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios its been platueing since like around today morning

UndoneStudios

oh

speaking of today morning I got my papers

and they're disappointing

lyxal

@UndoneStudios make sure you move any votes on questions with a score greater than 10 down to questions with less votes

UndoneStudios

06:44

as in, those with 9 votes?

could do

lyxal

That's right

DialFrost

guys what's the julia version of .find in python?

UndoneStudios

@lyxal done

@DialFrost seriously where do you learn julia

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios hmm? why do you ask :p

Bubbler

because at this point you need to learn how to search for what you need

DialFrost

06:56

@Bubbler why this point :p

UndoneStudios

I learnt Python from the docs

DialFrost

and isok i alr found something (that apparently doesnt work)

UndoneStudios

which is also why I'm called a nerd

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios i learnt it julia from er.. trial and error :3

UndoneStudios

useless

Bubbler

06:57

stop learning by trial and error

UndoneStudios

you should read more

Bubbler

^

UndoneStudios

trial and error takes forever

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios no?

well i mean i do search up quite a bit

most of the time i just port python->julia

since i know python better

UndoneStudios

if it doesn't it's basically reading somewhere and then pretending to try out alternatives

which is not trial and error

Bubbler

06:58

start from the official site, go to docs page, read through it, understand the language and its builtins

DialFrost

@Bubbler have you seen julia's docs page

UndoneStudios

just open docs.julialang.org/en/v1

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios (i wasnt asking for the link lol)

it was a question

UndoneStudios

I'm pointing you to a resource that can answer your question

don't appreciate that?

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios i already have it open :/

i use it a fair bit (mainly for methods)

UndoneStudios

07:01

then use it more

besides we are living in the golden age of search engines

use them

Bubbler

@DialFrost No but I could find something that could work pretty quick

DialFrost

@Bubbler ye i used that

heres the main problem for me when trying to understand julia: I don't get what the errors are saying

UndoneStudios

Well I'm not a Julia user so I can't help you out

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios isok

e.g. my current error `
ERROR: LoadError: MethodError: no method matching getindex(::Vector{SubString{String}}; x="n")`

me: *wtf is x="n" i dont have that in my code*

UndoneStudios

@Bubbler why is your name in italics but ours isnt

emanresu A

07:03

Room ownership

UndoneStudios

@DialFrost it's probably an argument error

@emanresuA oh

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios lmao i also didnt know that (mostly cuz i didnt even realise it)

Bubbler

@DialFrost Did you use getindex?

DialFrost

@Bubbler no

i used findfirst :/

UndoneStudios

what's your code

Bubbler

07:06

searching for "julia getindex" reveals that it is same as X[i]

UndoneStudios

(and why are you trying to execute it)

Bubbler

next question: did you use X[i] notation?

UndoneStudios

"Do we want questions that are less technical and more UX-related?" what's UX related mean?

Bubbler

user experience = UX

emanresu A

User experience

ninja'd

UndoneStudios

07:07

well then I'm leaving a downvote

i disagree

DialFrost

@Bubbler er yes

Bubbler

@UndoneStudios I mean more like "developer experience" here (user of a programming language = developer)

UndoneStudios

I'm beginning to think @DialFrost is trying to trick @Bubbler into helping him while lying

based on your tone

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios ?

if im lying then the advice Bubbler is giving me is useless

@UndoneStudios code.golf :3

Bubbler

@DialFrost Then check the type of X and i and fix it

DialFrost

07:09

@Bubbler but i already did! I followed the docs

Bubbler

no you didn't if the code doesn't work

DialFrost

(unless im being stupid again), i made sure x is a string and i is [1:1] in this case

@Bubbler gd point

oh wait I got it nvm, found the problem

:facepalm: when findfirst gets nothing, it will literally return nothing, so x[1:1] gives "n"

darn why cant it work like python to return -1

UndoneStudios

then make julia think n is -1

DialFrost

hmm lemme try

UndoneStudios

using some clues from "Write a program that makes 2+2=5"

DialFrost

07:29

@UndoneStudios yup it worked i just did a little ?: trick

UndoneStudios

Now act as if Julia is Python

Unrelated String

@UndoneStudios you downvote a bad question

if your answer to a good question is no, then you write an answer :P

UndoneStudios

If I did that, I would receive downvotes on my answer

but you can't downvote a downvote

DialFrost

@UndoneStudios or can you? :3

mousetail

Downvotes always get downvoted by the community bot

UndoneStudios

07:34

What

mousetail

You lose rep if you downvote

UndoneStudios

Oh

never mind

mousetail

I'm curious though what question is this drama about?

UndoneStudios

> -2 rep is nothing

mousetail

:popcorn:

UndoneStudios

07:35

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@Bubbler's

what no way 1 upvote?

mousetail

The question is good regardless if you want to answer yes or no

this needs to be discussed

UndoneStudios

Well I'm not exactly sure about where I stand

this isn't a rational one, it's an emotional one

hey you didn't post your answer based on my question did you?

mousetail

You drew attention to that question yes and I felt my opinon wasn't sufficiently represented yet

Ironically my opinion is that opinions are bad

UndoneStudios

it's deleted

but should I ask it again based on your answer?

mousetail

I can't see deleted things

UndoneStudios

07:41

forget the deleted part, should I ask again?

I still have 4 questions left :)

Bubbler

@mousetail it's not a contradiction, you expressed your opinion on meta and it's true that opinions are bad on main

but yes it's ironic :P

UndoneStudios

09:29

hi

lyxal

hello

DialFrost

10:09

hi guys anyone know whats the syntax of this code?

like order of operators (maybe someone can add brackets in it?) its python btw

n<x>s==sum(map(int,str(x)))

mousetail

@DialFrost Basically that's n < x and x > s and s == sum(...)

DialFrost

ohhhhh tysm

mousetail

Abusing python's inequality chaining rules

DialFrost

@Steffan hah passed u again

(ur prob gna pass me again when im asleep ltr)

UndoneStudios

10:53

it's a tip

UndoneStudios

12:38

heya people

UndoneStudios

12:58

I have finally done the 2+2=5 challenge in Scratch

too bad I can't upload it, so I'll send the img here

if you wanna see it

UndoneStudios

13:12

turbowarp with colored on black background setting on

lyxal

"turbowarp" - there's a term I haven't heard in ages

Ginger

turbowarp? I haven't heard that name in many years...

lyxal

I remember back in the day when a scratch game would straight up not let you play if you were in turbo mode. And if there wasn't a check for turbo mode, it really broke the game by speeding up time cycles

And then of course there were the games/projects where it was essential. Good times

PyGamer0

14:58

@graffe idk i just Guesses :P

mousetail

For a metagolf challenge, would restricting complexity to O(n) be enough to prevent brute force solutions?

Ginger

15:16

so TIL that three.js can load MMD files

don't... really know what to do with that

graffe

@PyGamer0 it is GRIN :)

PyGamer0

16:00

@graffe how?

teach me

Unrelated String

17:04

@mousetail depending on the thing being metagolfed, that would prevent a lot more than brute force :P

mousetail

It's numbers so a "normal" algorithm would run on O(log n)

Unrelated String

ah

Seggan

whats metagolf

Ginger

you golf the golf

Radvylf Programs

17:39

Well I just spent 107 aussie dollarydoos on two small MM300 mouse pads

They are shipping to an only slightly shady seeming reshipper

Ginger

good luck

Radvylf Programs

Oh no the reshipper wants my photo ID and a utility bill to make sure I'm a real person. Hopefully they allow 17 year olds to use their services...

Uh oh I'm also late to work

See y'all o/

Seggan

17:55

@Ginger huh

DLosc