The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

14:00

y'know what would be funny - if the site proposal got more followers than Cyrptocurrency in less than 24 hours

UndoneStudios

40 more followers, 38 more questions

looks like we need more advertising

@lyxal true

I'm done with discord

lyxal

I've put word into 5 discord servers, 3 different profile bios, and 2 subreddits

methinks it's time for a break from the ads

and to sleep

UndoneStudios

I've done for 2 servers

lyxal

later, nerds :p

UndoneStudios

good night

mousetail

14:02

Yea it's probably more efficetive if you split over a few days anyways

UndoneStudios

yawn guess I'll retract my follow as this is getting nowhere

mousetail

Why would you retract?

It will take weeks probably

UndoneStudios

did I not write a reason?

Ginger

@UndoneStudios no don't do that

UndoneStudios

> as this is getting nowhere

Ginger

14:03

these things take time

mousetail

In what way is it getting nowhere?

UndoneStudios

Well I'm done and I've gotta go sleep too

retracted

mousetail

Go to sleep but leave your follow

UndoneStudios

nah

mousetail

I'm so confused what do you lose by following?

UndoneStudios

14:04

my sleep will get disturbed by dilemmas over i should follow or not

mousetail

It will get confused anyways

UndoneStudios

bout what?

mousetail

If you should have followed or not

UndoneStudios

xaclee why I'm just taking a stand: don't

mousetail

that stand makes no sense though

there's no disadvantage to following

UndoneStudios

14:06

especially cuz as you said, I don't really need the site, I can drop the new lang anyway

mousetail

The site can help though

There are more steps between completely unnecessary and essential

UndoneStudios

@mousetail well you said it, and my brain won't retract the decision to drop the lang

or to follow it

mousetail

Again there are steps between extremes

UndoneStudios

product of means = product of extremes

mousetail

False

UndoneStudios

14:08

what you failed ratios and proportions?

mousetail

What if one of the extremes is 0, then the product is 0

UndoneStudios

yes, and 0 = 0

mousetail

No, the means are not 0

Also there is no guarentee the extremes are balanced around the mean

UndoneStudios

I said, product of means are zero

besides ratio terms can

not have 0 as a term

so that always holds true

mousetail

You still assume a uniform distribution

but hardly anything is actually uniform

UndoneStudios

14:10

wtf are you talking about when did i mention distrubution

did i?

mousetail

In fact ratios usually have a logarithmic distribution or lognormal so the mean would be far out

UndoneStudios

argh I'm still 7th grade so don't confuse me

well you're a logic bully so fine I'll follow

why did "How can I implement an optimization pass using egraphs and egg Rust crate?" get a downvote?

mousetail

Good question, it seems high quality

UndoneStudios

then upvote

why did it get a downvote

null

PyGamer0 entered the room

UndoneStudios

14:13

I wasted all my 5 votes

@null and?

mousetail

Quote from reddit:
> Am I interested? Yes. I even thought of a few example questions.

> Am I interested enough to get login to work on Area 51? Hell no. I'd rather be
> chained naked to a fire ant nest.

@UndoneStudios Never wasted

remember we need more question with 10 score than we currently have questions total

UndoneStudios

@mousetail Wdym

mousetail

All current questions need 10 score to win

so no matter which you voted on it will be a deciding vote

null

@UndoneStudios Seriously, I think you need to go to the doctor.

mousetail

@null I think he's just a teenager being a teenager

UndoneStudios

14:15

And that means we need 32/5 people to vote

@null I'm going tomorrow

null

@mousetail Well, actually, I'm a teenager.

UndoneStudios

@mousetail Yes I am

mousetail

Teenagers develop at different speeds

null

Well then.

mousetail

I, for example, never grew up

UndoneStudios

14:17

@mousetail mine develops at the slowest

null

Now that I look at what I wrote in this room 3 years ago.

mousetail

I'm a 24y/o teenager

UndoneStudios

@mousetail ~~no wonder you look like a gen z~~

null

I seriously feel that I need a new account.

mousetail

null is a really cool account name though

UndoneStudios

14:20

If I would, I'll stay with my acc name as I really don't finish my work

null

@mousetail It's not mine.

It's due to something that I don't want to talk about.

Actually, my name is TwilightSparkle, and later, HighlyRadioactive.

UndoneStudios

A really bad error on some really big program?

returning "null"

i bet

null

@UndoneStudios No, it's due to a vandalism that happened on my account.

UndoneStudios

@null Well I've done worser things than that

So I can't understand

null

It's not me.

I think Lyxal remember how that happened.

Radvylf Programs

14:24

@mousetail Depending on how long this process takes, I potentially won't be

UndoneStudios

If you want to mention someone, just type their name with a "@" at the beginning

like this: "@lyxal"

Radvylf Programs

Maybe they didn't want to ping lyxal, which you just did for no reason

UndoneStudios

besides the worst and dumbest thing I've done is rickroll my entire class along with me

@RadvylfPrograms I did want to

And... you said you'll be old enough to vote next year right?

If it takes that long you'll be a mod. Probably.

Radvylf Programs

@UndoneStudios Oh I did that twice, it was awesome. Once in science, where there was a list of research sources we had to look at, but the teacher accidentally made it an editable document. The second time I made the rickroll video be the custom background for a Kahoot (an educational game thing), which got my Latin class

UndoneStudios

No, mine's was terrible. My teacher called me after class and gave me a big reprimand

and now there are legends about it

Radvylf Programs

14:27

Well of course the teacher wasn't happy

UndoneStudios

And I don't like that

because I'm paranoid of people

besides I know what Kahoot is

though it's outdated in the UAE now

Radvylf Programs

Yeah but other people in this room might not

UndoneStudios

we use quizizz

which is way better

here's the webpage: rizwan342.github.io/js.html

Radvylf Programs

Quizizz has issues too though, they kept adding weird dumb features back when we used it

UndoneStudios

Though we are blooket fans now

@RadvylfPrograms yeah it was counter-competetive

Radvylf Programs

14:30

Blooket sucks, it's ripped off from a much better game, entirely luck based, and has atrocious UI

UndoneStudios

Blooket is like the king of all quiz making websites

@RadvylfPrograms No

and the Ui is amazing

kahoot looks boring

and you can't move on till everyone's done

Radvylf Programs

From a game design perspective Blooket is complete garbage

UndoneStudios

@RadvylfPrograms Well that's something I'll have to point out to my friends

though the next thing will be "choking noises"

they're so aggressive if you provoke them

and half the time you have no idea if you are provoking them

Radvylf Programs

Sounds like you need better friends then. They like Blooket and they randomly aggro on you?

UndoneStudios

Of course they do. And when you're a nerd you'd be lucky to get a friend down here

But if I say your opinion to them they'll think it's mine

And then they'll try to kill me

actually

once I got hit hard in the back of my head

got knocked out

Radvylf Programs

14:35

You'd probably be better off with no friends than "friends" who hit you hard enough to knock you out and who you're too scared of to actually talk with

7

UndoneStudios

@RadvylfPrograms it's not like you can avoid them

they'll put themselves on you

and you can't avoid them, you just can't

besides there are advantages to having them

our really boring last exam today was ended early only because of them

and we had loads of fun

all cuz of them

literally who starred that now

something is wrong

Well we are all off so I'm going too

null

14:54

Oh, Redwolf Programs came here

but I missed the fun :(

mousetail

We got 4/40 questions on the langdev

Seggan

wdym

Seggan

15:19

ofc adam would post this

mousetail

Lol yea, imagine if every language required it's own unicode block

Radvylf Programs

We only get five votes each, so we should be strategic with them. Don't upvote things that already have 10

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms yeah im revoting rn

iirc when we get 60 followers we can go to the next stage

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, but only if we've also got 40 questions with 10+ score

mousetail

60 followers and 40 questions with 10+ score right?

I mean ^^

Radvylf Programs

15:22

Wait...we actually need 80 people, since they only get 5 votes each

mousetail

You don't need to follow to vote

Seggan

by my calculations were getting a new follower every half hour

mousetail

but yea 80 people with at least some interest

@Seggan Mostly because reddit, it will die down

Seggan

correction: every 37 minutes and 33.6 seconds

on average

mousetail

We need someone to post on HN tomorrow

Seggan

15:25

also, what do yall think of this

Radvylf Programs

I think it's pretty vague

It could be talking about primitives (e.g., "should strings be treated as primitives"), or about standard library size, or...oh wait I think it's about golflangs

Oh if anyone wants to post a question but doesn't have ideas, "should strings be a primitive data type" is a good one

Should we make a chat room for this?

mousetail

Maybe

It would cut down on exposure

but probably be ethically the best

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, but for like, moderation purposes that aren't really relevant to TNB I guess

Programming Language Design and Imple…

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Steffan

sorry @DialFrost people who golf have to sleep too

UndoneStudios

Hi

Steffan

15:32

@DialFrost Int.(split(x))?

@DialFrost it works for me /shrug

My inbox be like

Ginger

@Steffan why tf does your inbox look like that

graffe

15:52

I am wondering why there has been no rust answer so far too by fastest-code challenge

mousetail

Because nobody wrote one

Ginger

well yes

graffe

@mousetail :)

Seggan

16:37

@lyxal it did

Baby_Boy

DSO is having some strange behavior, can someone take a look?(My input may be formatted wrong, but I'm pretty sure that it's not)
https://dso.surge.sh/#@WyJwaXAiLCIiLCJQYUAxXG5bXCJIZWxsb1wiO1wiV29ybGRcIl1AMSIsIiIsIiIsIltcIkhlbGxvXCI7XCJXb3JsZFwiXSJd

Ginger

@emanresuA isn't that your site?

Seggan

16:56

@cairdcoinheringaahing could you 11 the room into the pinned message?

caird coinheringaahing

11'ed

Seggan

ty

Steffan

19:13

@Ginger that's when you clikcon All items

i had to go there to take a screenshot because the messages didn't fit in the size of the dropdown

emanresu A

@Baby_Boy IIRC you need -x or -p to eval input

Huh maybe not, i honestly don't remember

@Baby_Boy This is what you want

Baby_Boy

@emanresuA thanks man, i was struggling lol

emanresu A

What I think was happening was Pip's argparser was seeing double quotes and thinking those were the arguments? (I don't entirely know how it works)

Seggan

20:22

@lyxal can you edit your reddit post to remind people to use all their upvotes?

Sandbox Posts

20:32

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Difficult Boolean Algebra Calculator Background With the success of Simple Boolean Algebra Calculator, I present a more difficult problem. Boolean Algebra concerns representing values with letters and simplifying expressions. The following is a chart for the standard notation used: Above is what...

graffe

21:19

Amazing that Julia is beating C and C++ for speed

Maybe it really is the fastest language these days

Radvylf Programs

CMM: Do y'all think advertising Area 51 proposals on our meta should be allowed? Some sites seem to be fine with that, while others aren't.

It looks like most well received advertisements are made after the 60 followers are acquired, so maybe that would be a good threshold?

emanresu A

21:40

I think it should be fine

Seggan

21:59

agree

are those the only examples?

lyxal

22:23

@Seggan no

Titles can't be edited

Seggan

edit body then

lyxal

22:38

It's a link post

There is no body to edit

Seggan

that exists?

argh

caird coinheringaahing

23:17

@RadvylfPrograms No, as said by the former SE employee in charge of Area 51:

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A: Promote Area 51 proposal on other SE sites

I can understand wanting to share your enthusiasm for your favorite proposal, but advertising them on a meta site — even if it is veiled as a question — would not be appropriate. That is not the purpose of meta; Off topic. We have already started grouping proposals into "Categories" so we can ad...

Community Ads are appropriate however, and I believe they'll be updated in the new year

Seggan

23:47

> C++ was created to boost the sales of migraine medicine

the most true statement of today

reddit.com/r/ProgrammingLanguages/comments/yxy7gq/comment/…

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