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@Ginger What on earth are those bots for
 
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I just realized that I always have CGCC zoomed at 67%
Whew that is huge at 100%
@Steffan ok bruh
That is a facepalm right there
what percentage do u have it at
100% is honestly massive
meanwhile my dad views everything at like 300% lol
Ok what I have it at the regular 100%
bruh
U telling me 100% zoom is not normal?
04:03
lmao
SE chat is at 90%
it does depend on ur screen size some too
Iā€™m on a desktop monitor screen
same
Bruh ok
04:33
i keep my zoom at 500%
here is how it looks
05:08
@RadvylfPrograms@lyxal
I would like to personally thank u guys for the luck :3 (my paper just finished)
05:30
@PyGamer0 gorgeous
this is amazing
@DialFrost np
@lyxal the paper 2 (structured) turned out to quite easy :3
CMQ: Which golflang is the fastest?
(apart from [mj]yxal)
@DialFrost well, that's pretty good
06:09
java has wrapper classes.... isn't that just bad language design?
Java is bad language design
Says the PHP developer
PHP is worse for sure
I don't program PHP by choice
06:33
What does everything think of this idea? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/25183/…
06:51
Good idea but very unlikely to happen
hmm
Adam's answer seems quite good
I would want to edit the ones that are only for specific tags to make that move obvious
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

mousetailInfinite Integer Derivative We can consider the derivative of a integer sequence to simply be the difference between each element and the next: 1 5 8 13 2 4 3 5 -11 Note this will produce a sequence one shorter than the original. If we prepend the initial value we have perfectly describe...

 
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08:51
CMC: is an integer array a geometric sequence?
(note: You can assume it's increasing)
09:07
Quick qns how do I add a space into equations?
\text{ } works
ah tysm!
(adding more spaces also works)
It does?
(as in, adding multiple spaces within the \text{ }
09:19
oh
ic
10:06
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

DialFrostPartial fractions code-golf Given an input of a string, output the partial fraction in string form. The partial fraction decomposition of a rational fraction of the form where f and g are polynomials, is its expression as: Input: In the form of an entire string: (x+4)/(x+3)^2 Output: In the fo...

In Python, how do I print to two significant figures so that 231254.46 become 230000 ?
(It's not called significant figures but hopefully the question is clear)
and 23124.2367 becomes 23000
CMC Given a positive floating point number, round to the nearest integer, print the first (up to) two digits and pad the rest with zeros.
so 23124.2367 becomes 23000
and 231254.46 become 230000
10:40
237254.46 would still be 230000?
10:57
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Q: Number to String in aaaaa way!

Mehan AlaviIn this Challenge, You are going to take a number and turn it to a String, but not in the common way, Actually in aaaaa way. aaaaa way, Is simply writing the letter in the English alphabet With the index We have until 9(for example a for 1, 2 for b and ... 9 for i) in 5 letters string. For exampl...

dupe?
11:42
@mathcat yes.. but I have a more interesting version to worry about :)
12:14
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Q: Mimic R's print(x, digits=n)

graffeIn R print(x, digits=n) does something a little complicated. It always shows all the digits to the left of the decimal point and then, if there are any digits to the right it rounds the whole number so that at most n digits are shown. However a solitary 0 to the left of the decimal point is not c...

@DLosc i dont get it, is this a reference to something :-)
@thejonymyster you just need to... shift your perspective a little bit :p
you'll hate me once you get the joke
do you get it
im going back to bed *leaves work and goes home*
12:22
HAHAHAAAAAA
i was like is this some syntax joke is there a language that uses 8s of all things
goddam. a kee board joak
LMAO
@Steffan they do unit testing for the sechat module
@PyGamer0 [MJ]yxal
@thejonymyster dah frick
DO YOU GET IT LYXAL
12:30
fryxal
@Ginger yes
and I don't know how I feel about it
in Sandbox, 8 secs ago, by Ginger
I REGRET ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. THAT WAS THE BEST PUN I HAVE MADE THIS MONTH.
well I still don't get it
I just see an emoticon
oh, you'll get it
@Ginger more examples of different lengths :P also maybe clarify that the triplets cant overlap cause you know someone will ask
even though theres no reason they ever would gfdsg
@Adám Thank you for the test cases
13:05
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Q: print(x, digits=n) gives different results in different places

graffeTake these two examples: print(687.7, digits = 3) 688 and also > print(matrix(1000*runif(60),nrow=5),digits = 3) [,1] [,2] [,3] [,4] [,5] [,6] [,7] [,8] [,9] [,10] [,11] [,12] [1,] 210 27.5 702 628 180 981 562 614 256 998 202 721.5 [2,] 818 113.0 138 249 460 680 883 355...

oops
sorry.. deleted
@mousetail thanks :)
13:17
Have you ever found that defining functions in java-script normally is boring?

(a,b)=>console.log(a,b) is lame. Try

(...[a,b])=>console.log(a,b) Or

(...[...[a,b]])=>console.log(a,b)

You can nest this a infinite number of times for infinite fun. Enjoy
Stop at one nest, and then the fun becomes finite.
Unless the computer is the one nesting it.
Nah I only stop at infinite nestings
now you can have arbitrarily large amounts of fun: eval("("+"...[".repeat(n)+"a,b"+"]".repeat(n)+")=>console.log(a,b)")
Seriously?
seriously.
I would never lie about arbitrarily large amounts of fun
13:20
You manually waste the rest of your time on Earth nesting a function @mousetail?
It's not a waste when it makes you happy
Well @thejonymyster It might be embarrassing for you, but I wasn't talking to you.
They say, find a job that makes you happy. If I get paid $800/hr to nest brackets with professional accuracy and quality, then I think I've succeeded.
@py3programmer I wasnt talking to you either. i was talking to my imaginary friend py3programmerwhotalkstome
:P this is silly though
I'm not talking to you either
13:22
damn nobody talking to me
deleting my account
No not you, I'm talking to you. But not you
I'm not talking to any of y'all I just left my speech-to-text on and I've been discussing an identical topic with my friends at the exact same time as, but indepently of, y'all
radvylf doing the bluetooth phone call earpiece thing lol
there was a skit on youtube someone showed me a while back where it was like, a dude sat near people having phone calls, responded to the things they were saying, but pretended it was part of an unrelated phone call
I've seen that
That sounds hilarious
13:24
cmc win at social situations
vtc as impossible
@RadvylfPrograms did you say this to us or your friends
Both
(I was asked this by both you, my friend Jimmy, and thejonymyster, we're in identical conversations again, sorry)
its like one of those "youre so vain you think this song is about you" situations where it doesnt make sense no matter who it's being said to
13:30
because of course winning must make others lose
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Can someone introduce an external stimulus to only one group of us so that entropy causes the conversation to rapidly diverge from its original topic?
that is a fascinating idea
alright whenever I post a link I assume only some of you will click it
CMC: given a list of words, produce an acronym
@RadvylfPrograms Jimmy? As in Slipping Jimmy?
hard mode: given an acronym, produce a list of words
13:33
@thejonymyster ->{"AA"}
>:)
@Wezl' Ah yes, toxic friendships are the best ones
@thejonymyster s=>s.split(" ").map(w=>w[0]).filter(x=>x<'_').join("")
@thejonymyster k: *'
@thejonymyster d=>a=>[...a].map(c=>d.filter(w=>w[0]==c.toLowerCase())).map(w=>w[Math.random()*w.length|0]).join(" ")
Takes an argument d first which is the dictionary
@RadvylfPrograms you tell Jimmy I know what they are, what they were, that people don't change, and that they are Slipping Jimmy. And make sure to also tell them that Slipping Jimmy I can handle just fine but Slipping Jimmy with a Law Degree is a Chimp with a Machine Gun!
13:36
tfw you try to turn up your laptop volume to make the overhead speakers at school louder
(My Physics teacher is super cool and lets us pick the music that plays, and Foundations came on :p)
Stair enamel seems realistic
@RadvylfPrograms lmao is there a word for "trying to control device A with the controls for device B"? cause this happens to me all the time
Welcome to the Croquette-Girding-Coupon-Compromised Stair Enamel, everyone
i miss the pickpocketing
Was that your past hobby?
13:41
Yeah, before our site got renamed by the feds, we had a pretty good ring going on
Oh so the golf is a coverup?
We were really proactive about stealing our months' profit, since we had a large crew, which we'd discuss using a coded Unicode glyph
Makes sense, rich people like to golf and being a criminal requires good connections
sad we got compromised
@mousetail yeah i go on this site to network with my quality programming skills. Dyalog is hiring i hear :P
We were led by a real genius, graduated top of his class at Macrophage Intractability Tuber
13:43
Adam is the victim, rest of us all all pickpocketers
Adám eventually had to sell his pockets in order to stay financially stable
Which led to a confusing series of events that led him to discover APL
I have a giant collection of Adám's pockets in my closet
that sounds like a lot... how do you even pick
how does a pickpocket pick pockets to pick
I have an automated picker that can remove hundreds of pockets at once
checks pockets to make sure they're still there
13:45
Women have a secret advantage
Ight which one of you nerds stole my pockets
who do you think
@mousetail No, they just already got their pockets stolen
Makes sense
we take the pockets, but leave the money
do you know how much pockets go for on the slack market
13:46
Money can be bought. Pockets are forever.
Oh evil, then you need to use one hand to carry your money always
@Ginger I think it was gnat
@RadvylfPrograms ooh I love Croquette Girding Coupon Compromised, saw them open for Correct Horse Battery Staple
@Ginger CHBS -> Code Half Byte Sheet
The irony is that "Correct Horse Battery Staple" is actually a very common password nowadays thus very weak
13:47
My favorite band is Miseries Crassly Repeals, been listening to Acupuncture Firefighter Incontinently too recently
whenever i need a really secure password i end up repeating the word horse in it quite a few times because of that stupid comic
CGCCiscool#1horsehorsehorse
Boom identity thefted
@thejonymyster Good to know
presenting, the optimal password: horse horse horse horse 1283 horse horse 4467 88*7
@RadvylfPrograms This paints a pretty funny image
13:48
My password is: deF\u2081\u1e8e\u019b\u208d\u2082\u2083\u00ab-\u2207j\u20ac\u208cp\u00ab\u2308\u01d0*\u2211\u2234\n", "\u027e\u2022\n", "\u00ab\u019b4-\u0280W\u1e6a\u00ab=[\u00bb|\u022eW\u00bc\u2229r\u00b6\u201bv\u2190^\u01d4\u1e60l\u022f\u00a6U4;o\u2192\u2084v\u2082V\u228dcb\u
@mousetail doesnt mean youre gonna get it from just that; ive used entire song verses as passwords (with varying case per character)
and thats before the digits and special characters :P
@thejonymyster Good to know
why tf are my messages so slow to send
@mousetail OTL
@thejonymyster on the lols?
13:50
I love how John explains how his information is useless by giving me more private information
:P ill never tell you my username
Whats your brith date?
@mousetail I honestly, truly didn't think you would fall for that.
THESharPEstlIVEsARetheDEaDLIesttOleAD*horsehorsehorse
@mousetail they still do those?
13:51
@Ginger this is the part where I pwn you
@Ginger The funny thing is that when people try to provide false information they tend to still think in the general area their brain associates with passwords, making it still valuable information
pls just whatever you do dont delete my neopets
Take 5 bytes of one of my answers and they will be spared
@mousetail its really a nerd snipe since youll be spending all your time trying to get your password stealer to be optimized to my ridiculous tendencies
@thejonymyster I will abscond with their pockets and no more
13:53
:/
In middle school I know literally everyone's passwords
mostly by just looking over their shoulders when they typed
@mousetail My passwords always end with a number that disproves collatz's conjecture
My password is a algorithm that converts any NP problem to a P problem
@mousetail your password is x=>x?
@thejonymyster oh yeah? my password is the last digit of pi
My password is the name of the President of America in 2078
13:55
@thejonymyster Prove it
@mousetail your password has an algorithm that can convert any np problem to a p problem, therefore p=np, therefore x=>x is an algorithm that converts any np problem to a p problem
oh my god
@thejonymyster I didn't say it converts the NP problem to P in polynomial time
yes but you thunk it
It might take EXPTIME you never know
13:57
*clears throat* aint nobody got exptime for that
anybody working on any crazy golfs :-)
Fun fact: P?=NP is famously unsolved but the equivalence of many other computational classes is also unknown. Like NC?=P, P=co-NP, BPP=BQP etc.
maybe solving one of the easier ones will give us the tools to finally solve P=NP?
it's not even known if P = polyspace
sure, I'll add that to my todo list
which is crazy
If P=P and NP=NP, then === and thus P== and NP==, and since P===NP, P=NP
@graffe Polyspace?
14:02
PSPACE
As in polynomial space?
Oh nvm
In computational complexity theory, PSPACE is the set of all decision problems that can be solved by a Turing machine using a polynomial amount of space. == Formal definition == If we denote by SPACE(t(n)), the set of all problems that can be solved by Turing machines using O(t(n)) space for some function t of the input size n, then we can define PSPACE formally as P S P A C E = ā‹ƒ k āˆˆ...
P = PSPACE is a much more interesting question in my view
Less interesting only because less prize money
:)
you would get untold riches if you sold the result to a govt
or put in jail
one or the other
Probably the later
14:04
Google might be a better option
I really wouldn't want google to be the first to know
hm.. who?
Maybe "sell" it to google but then break my contract and tell everyone anyways but burn my money so they can't take it back. Then go to jail
all routes end in jail I see
Yep :/
14:06
that's just the risk you take when you decide to sell the secrets of the universe
I see that if you print a matrix in R with digits=n the rules are even crazier
it tries really hard to make it pretty
Or maybe P=PSPACE is the answer to the life, the universe, and everything and the universe resets when the answer has been found
this time with a more challenging problem
of course there could be a proof that P=PSPACE with no practical consequences at all
a bit like 42
me waking up in the new universe and having to figure out if P^2=@=NNP
=@= is an operator we dont have here yet
Or we could prove P!=PSPACE and it would change nothing
14:08
nice
@mousetail yep.
It seems the only way to avoid jail though, since nobody would really care
it's same with P = NP. If I proved it tomorrow it doesn't change anything
it only changes things if I also find a fast algorithm for everything in NP
Proving P=NP proves a fast algorithm exists
you don't necessarily need to find the algorithm, just prove it's existence
@mousetail not really. It proves a polynomial time algorithm exists. Say I find an n^20 algorithm for anything in NP
it's useless
@mousetail right but proving its existence doesn't change anything in practice
14:11
N^20 would still make some currently unsolvable problems solvable with current computational limits
Plus if a N^20 exists chances are it can be improved over time to be better
@mousetail I am not sure that is right. Can you think of one?
@mousetail take factoring. 1024^20 is much too large
@mousetail yes that is the hope but there is no reason to really believe it is true
for what input size n is n^20 computable?
Basically for problems like factoring it would slightly improve the values of N that are practical to compute
n has to be less than 10 certainly as 10^20 is too large
@mousetail no that's not right
we can factor 500 bit numbers now but 500^20 is much too large
True, but that's because the exponential algorithms used have a very low constant
well sort of
but really assume your exponential time algorithm takes 2^n time
when is n^20 less than 2^n?
it certainly is when n =1 :)
it isn't when n = 2
14:16
You'd need like 30 I think
nope.. 30^20 is much bigger than 2^30
Still it will scale better as computer become better
no
n has to be over 143
this means that the code would take at least 143^20 time
which is more than 12785589283244544365936086134520496196408001
steps
we ain't getting computers able to do that ever :)
Quantum computers :)
they don't help at all
the point is that P=NP is only useful it also comes with an n^a algorithm where a is small, for example less than 5 or 6
14:20
I hold that it stays useful even if it's 10 or 15
here's an idea: what if I made my own online code execution service thing and called it "Evaluate Stuff Online"
let's do the math @mousetail
say n^10
so when is n^10 smaller than 2^n?
Not all problems are 2^n, some are worse
which ones are you thinking of?
travelling salesman is better than 2^n
as is factoring
graph coloring
wait no, that's 2^n * n
14:23
@mousetail 3 or 4 coloring is faster than that
but k coloring for large k is slower I think
Yea I'm talking about k-coloring
2.4423^n ?
I am just reading the wiki
I don't know that algorithm
@mousetail n2^n? or 2^(n^2)
(2^n)*n
according to wikipedia sidebar
the exact algorithms section has 2.4423^n
14:27
(2^n)*n is less though I think. Must be a different algorithm
hi!
I'm that new vyxaler
Hi guys
just started going on code.golf
Fun
Can you write 1500 Vyxal answers for me please, I need more training data?
14:39
hmmmmmm maybe
i have class sometimes
You have 1 week, so no rush
what lol
ive done 13 in the last week
I'm mostly joking
Unlike Jo King who is always Jo King
šŸ˜Ž
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Pacmanboss256Mario brick Block In honor of the upcoming Mario movie, print this brick block art in the fewest characters possible. ._____. |__|__| |_|_|_| !__|__! Scoring It's code-golf, so fewest bytes wins.

15:35
thinking of making a nibbles runner. pythonanywhere supports haskell right?
why not add it to ATO/RTO?
Because RTO isn't working yet and ATO doesn't allow custom langs?
??? pxeger is accepting new langs for ATO
Yeah but you can't add it yourself
> why not add it to ATO
isn't just something you can do
sorry, poor phrasing
15:38
probably intended "why not (try to have it be added) to ATO"
^ exactly
in contrast to doing pythonanywhere or what-have-you
Ah. Would've assumed that except "ATO/RTO" kinda implies it'd be the same process for both.
I need BRO: Back Rubs Online
just caught myself a big ol fish. Fry It Online!
15:43
need a funky t-shirt? Dye It Online!
got a lot of feelings you need to let out? cry
...It Online!
:-)
im hype for custom language uploading w rto
it will be so pogger
120 years fly by before you could escape an infinite scroll? Die online!
need to encrypt some data? Steganify It Online!
15:45
stegan? isnt that a user here
LDQ: How reasonable is it to do ordering of complex numbers based on a + b (for a + bi)?
That ensures the reals compare normally, and reals multiplied by i also compare normally
Trying to balance a delicious treat on a tightrope? Pie On Line!
@RadvylfPrograms how about their distance from 0 but signed
Signed how
good question
15:59
I guess you could do the real part's sign if the complex one's zero, and vice versa, it doesn't matter if both are zero since the magnitude is zero, and if both are nonzero, the product of the signs
i just figure it could be more useful if youre using complex numbers as like vectors or something :P plus itd still have the properties you described
like, it retains more information, slightly
wait does it
:P now im not sure
what language is this for btw
No clue. But I'm working on an arbitrary precision complex number library for a golfing language of...some sort I guess lol
16:16
incroyabl
well, excited to see what becomes of it :-)
CMP: in general, how many bytes do you mentally draw the line as being a short answer vs a long answer (or any lines drawn in between)
definitely different for golfing and non-golfing
maybe around 10 for golfing and a bit more than 100 for javascript and python
not to say that 110 is often comparable to a 10-byter in a golfing language
16:33
@thejonymyster How many pockets would a pickpocket pickpocket if a pickpocket could pick pockets?
16:47
tfw you're doing some especially complex shit with git and you realize you just fatally screwed up but then you think about it for a few minutes and realize you actually didn't
@Wezl' for jelly in particular i'd say a short answer is 7 bytes or less, a mid-length answer is 8-12, and a long answer is 13 and up
@Ginger standard git operation
Pro tip: Always clone a branch before you rebase
yea you can get it back with reflog is you mess up but it's a lot easier to just delte your branch and go back
"rebase"? never heard of it, I just used reset d:
yknow, I bet I know more about the SE apis than most users
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