The Nineteenth Byte

Neil

00:00

@pxeger also it saves you a trailing newline on the input

Radvylf Programs

@Ginger Welcome back!

Also I don't even want to know what you were trying to do compiling Linux on an RPi

That sounds incredibly painful

(well, unless you just left it overnight I guess)

Ginger

suffice it to say it was some cursed stuff I had to do that day

but everything works "fine" now so

att

any final feedback for codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25092 before I post

Bubbler

@att "How accurate should my answer be?" is not answered yet

att

00:16

I'm thinking 2^-16

partly because it makes a solution I had usable on tio

Bubbler

Then it should be in the description

att

anything else?

Bubbler

Looks ok to me

thejonymyster

lotm?

Bubbler

CMP: Trying to rewrite the string task for fitness challenge. For now I used substring replace and count. Do you have any other ideas for "string operations"?

att

00:43

split on delimiter

New Posts

01:02

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Q: Compute the Fabius Function

The Fabius function is an example of a function that is infinitely differentiable everywhere, yet nowhere analytic. One way to define the function is in terms of an infinite number of random variables. Specifically, given a sequence of independent random variables \$\{U_n\}\$, where each \$U_n\$ ...

code-golf

lyxal

02:35

just tried to do python string multiplication in java like "--" * WIDTH and now I'm just sad

I was like "hey why is vs code giving me a red squiggle? string multiplication is totes yeets yo" and then I remembered what language I was using

emanresu A

s/ja// s/a/yxal/

thejonymyster

02:50

vyxalscript 😳

Steffan

how do i have 538 answers

thejonymyster

well first you had 537 and then you wrote a new one

4

Steffan

lol

well how did i have 537 answers :p

thejonymyster

cant say i know

how long have you been on the site

caird coinheringaahing

You originally had 0 answers, then you wrote a new one. Rinse and repeat

Steffan

02:54

few years, but wasn't active until a few months ago.

Aiden Chow

@Steffan bro just how tf u have 500+ answers within a few months

Steffan

i have no idea lol

i was posting like 20 per day or smth ig lol

thejonymyster

@AidenChow thats what weve been trying to figure out !!

Aiden Chow

@Steffan what just motivated u to go like, yep this is a very good time to do a lil code golfing and post 20 answers a day

After like years of inactivity

Like I have 200 answers and I consider myself to have been actively contributing for at least a year

caird coinheringaahing

@Steffan That's seriously a lot

I'm slowly making my way towards 1000 answers (on 812 atm), and I've been here 5.5 years

Aiden Chow

03:02

Ikr, I don’t even think I post 20/month most the time

Steffan

when i first joined i like posted one and i couldn't golf and stopped doing stuff. a few years later i remembered, and i was like, hey, that might be fun

caird coinheringaahing

Even at the height of my activity, I think 3/week was my norm

emanresu A

Huh I have 900ish

caird coinheringaahing

But also 1 challenge a week

emanresu A

For about two weeks a few months ago I managed to keep up 1 challenge a day

caird coinheringaahing

03:03

I do have 971 total posts, with 812 answers

@emanresuA During lockdown, when I was between school, work and uni, I was posting a challenge every 2-3 days for almost 6 months solid

py3programmer

i only post once every 2 weeks

Aiden Chow

@Steffan yep, it’ll be fun to just do 20/day real quick, no problem lmfao

caird coinheringaahing

Tho, I still haven't reached my challenge goal: to write a highly upvoted challenge, with genuinely interesting, compelling answers, that is somewhat innovative

emanresu A

Probably my most interesting ones are It Almost Works and Add A Hidden Language To A Polyglot

Aiden Chow

@cairdcoinheringaahing I found ur oeis challenge pretty innovative

Fun to do too

caird coinheringaahing

03:09

My favourites are this (didn't get enough answers), this (Bubbler trivialised it), this (just a regular CG challenge), plus a few other challenges that aren't upvoted enough imo

@AidenChow Strongly disagree

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing As I've said before, Bugle was too complex and the challenge selection was too kolmogorov-complexity.

caird coinheringaahing

I like the OEIS answer chaining challenge, don't get me wrong, but, as answer chaining challenges go, it's really not great, plus, the answers got boring very quickly

@emanresuA Yeah, I'd like to redo it at some point

emanresu A

CMC: Given a string with length 2^k where k is an integer, output all strings you can get by repeatedly choosing one half of it.

e.g. abcd -> abcd, ab, cd, a, b, c, d

(might make a good challenge on main, idk)

caird coinheringaahing

8 bytes in Jelly

emanresu A

Will look for dupes later, I call dibs on this

caird coinheringaahing

03:18

Another 8 bytes

lyxal

@emanresuA k > 0?

Unrelated String

here's a funny 6

...and now i'm kinda wondering if there's a shorter way to express lengths all equal in one link than a\Ƒ or ẈE$

lyxal

04:01

@emanresuA 5 bytes in Vyxal: Try it Online!

4 if it doesn't need to be a list of strings and can be a ragged list of strings

Unrelated String

oh yeah mine's 7, needs Ẏ at the end

lyxal

actually mine's 7 too: Try it Online!

turns out it was broken on size >4

emanresu A

@lyxal ≥

Bubbler

04:36

@cairdcoinheringaahing My best non-code-golf challenge was concatenated halting problem, followed by boggle checker on boggle pad

emanresu A

06:26

This whole site is NSFW - if you're a programmer, that is

This is probably a dupe of some of the "coins" problems or the other way round, idk which though

Bubbler

06:43

I don't see any dupes. The similar ones are different 1) by asking for specific denomination only (often USD or Euro) 2) by asking number of combinations instead of permutations

emanresu A

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

pxeger

07:15

@Neil Ok, done

pxeger

07:31

@emanresuA Python 2, 50 bytes: def f(s):print s;x=len(s)//2;x>0>f(s[:x])>f(s[x:])

py3programmer

12:46

hi

lyxal

howdy

New Posts

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Q: Calculating Pi using the Gregory Leibniz series until a term

based off my previous challenge, this wikipedia article, and a Scratch project Your task: given i, calculate π till i terms of the Gregory-Leibniz series. The series: $$\pi=\frac{4}{1}-\frac{4}{3}+\frac{4}{5}-\frac{4}{7}+\frac{4}{9}-...$$ Here, 4/1 is the first term, -4/3 is the second, 4/5 is ...

code-golf sequence pi

Neil

@pxeger great, thanks!

py3programmer

@lyxal just pinging, thought the group died down

PyGamer0

13:02

> Sometimes, there isn't anybody talking in chat. That's perfectly fine. Don't send messages just because the room is quiet.

py3programmer

ik

thejonymyster

@py3programmer "just pinging" to ask something? also, what group are you referring to? lacking context here :P

py3programmer

13:22

my fault

:(

thejonymyster

oh i just wasnt sure if i was missing some detail ^_^; it happens

mathcat

13:36

Did you know a Leibniz was named after a german biscuit brand?

graffe

hi all

mathcat

@mathcat It's not the other way around. Don't google it.

graffe

how do you find your own draft answer in the sandbox?

@mathcat but which is more delicious?

lyxal

@graffe codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/…

graffe

@lyxal thanks! Amazingly got a downvote despite not being written yet :)

I guess they are just anticipating that it will be terrible once written :)

thejonymyster

13:43

wait what? send a screenshot lol

or wait, do you mean draft as in like a sandbox post, or a draft like the draft saving feature

graffe

-1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The wizard's revenge The wizard, annoyed by his witch cousin, is determined to pose the most challenging challenge yet. He poses the following. The wizard has 50 real number lines, each stretching from 0 to 10 and they re all hidden from you. Also hidden from you, for each number line he choose...

it's not even a draft.. I just haven't written the challenge yet!

thejonymyster

ahh lol yeah, sandbox is weird

graffe

:)

thejonymyster

i thought you meant like, when you type an answer but dont post it, and it shows up with the "draft saved!"

graffe

I am writing it now in any case... hopefully people will find it fun and at least a little bit difficult

@thejonymyster ah yes... not that

I love the answers to my king/queen challenge

Number Basher

13:55

Any suggestions https://github.com/TvoozMagnificent/SunSip

graffe

@NumberBasher Simple Language Whose Name Shall Not Be Pronounced

Number Basher

I dont care that tbh... until when I have 100 requests, maybe...

graffe

sanity check please codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25127/108721

awesome answers also accepted :)

@NumberBasher what do you mean?

maybe it was a mistake to make a draft with little in it and then update it in terms of the number of people who will look at it

Seggan

14:45

Java: Horse implements Noble, Animal

no need for another interface

@RadvylfPrograms i disagree

val and var are very clear

Radvylf Programs

But they look almost identical

And val isn't all that clear IMO

Seggan

var isnt used that very often anyway in my experience

Radvylf Programs

Nothing about the word "value" communicates "immutable" to me anyway

Seggan

youd go the java way?

Radvylf Programs

What's the Java way?

I'd go with var and const

Seggan

14:48

final var

ehh

const takes too long to type

Radvylf Programs

No?

Seggan

imo people would just use var because its shorter to type

Radvylf Programs

It's like a tenth of a second more, the variable name itself is longer

@Seggan There's plenty of ways to write working, awful code in order to save keystrokes

Seggan

true

im still debating with myself on the variable syntax for my lang

Radvylf Programs

You could even do like, con

Seggan

14:50

i just cant get used to var int a

int a reads fine: "integer named 'a'". var a: int reads "a variable 'a', which is an integer". but var int a?

"variable which is an integer named 'a'"

LDQ: thoughts about implementing null?

pxeger

Is this a statically typed language?

Seggan

yep

well, mostly

pxeger

Then no

Use Maybe / Option instead

Seggan

i have an option to have a dynamic variable. mostly because lua interop

@pxeger yeah i was thinking that

thing is, this is only very weakly oop and no generics

so idk how to implement it

actually lemme write up a quick spec so yall can understand what im working on

pxeger

You could use nullability, like Dart/Kotlin

although my honest suggestion is to just implement generics lol

Seggan

15:03

thing is, i dont really have classes in the oop sense

just structs with "instance methods". no inheritance

pxeger

That's fine

That doesn't mean you can't have generics

Seggan

oh yeah

i was thinking abt something else

thejonymyster

@Seggan you should definitely have as many nothing types as possible; undefined, null, nil, nan, etc

all with different interactions and edge cases ofc

Seggan

yep

thanks for the good advice

pxeger

And also an unnamed type of nothing, where merely reading a variable with that value causes an error

Seggan

15:06

why

pxeger

Oh just to make it as awful as possible

Seggan

@thejonymyster though nan comes with floats, so thats free

@pxeger oh didnt see you were being sarcastic

pxeger

although Python does have that and it's not that awful in Python because that's just how Python is

Seggan

None?

thejonymyster

@pxeger jokes aside i was genuinely thinking of that but then i remembered you could just throw errors

like, explicitly

pxeger

15:09

@Seggan no, for unbound variables

ato.pxeger.com/…

Seggan

ah

Codidact Posts

New Posts - Challenges - Code Golf: Presumptuous base conversion

posted on September 19, 2022 by trichoplax‭

Take an input string representing a number and convert it to decimal (base 10). However, the base of the input is not specified. Assume the input is in the smallest base for whi...

Seggan

15:27

wait what new bot

pxeger

That's been here for ages

its posts just come through very rarely

Aiden Chow

@CodidactPosts never even knew a website like that existed

Seggan

A short showoff of my language: pastebin.com/HEBj4XvR

thejonymyster

15:42

@Seggan noob question: what exactly are those externs? i cant guess what they do from the description (dont know what that sort of mangling is), and the example doesnt tell me much either :o

and regular question: why extern and not just ext :P

Seggan

@thejonymyster basically Rol is transpiled to lua, and to store info about compiled functions, it uses name mangling: putting the function's info into the name. extern prevents that, so its just the function's name that gets stuck in the resulting code and allows for lua interop

and extern because C :P

thejonymyster

interesting :o

PyGamer0

CMP: null/nil/none

DLosc

@emanresuA Brachylog, 8 bytes: ẉ&ḍlⁿ⁰↰ᵉ

pxeger

@PyGamer0 None

PyGamer0

15:56

nil is golfier :p

LDQ: Should my ~~epic very cool golfy~~ tacit language have nulls?

DLosc

@PyGamer0 Yes ;P

pxeger

To me, nil just means 0

@PyGamer0 No

PyGamer0

why

pxeger

is is supposed to be a practical language

PyGamer0

no, ... although it might be used as one :P

pxeger

15:59

yeah then no

PyGamer0

i want it to solve AoC also

@pxeger ok, but why

pxeger

for a golfing language, generally speaking, the weaker the typing, the better

PyGamer0

hmm i see

ok no nulls then

oh btw did i tell y'all about my 14 line vim config :P

gist.github.com/PyGamer0/533ca77659771b4c4b47aa37f13afb63

i want to improve my c skillz, does anyone have any project ideas for me? :s

graffe

@PyGamer0 what do you want to get good at?

Aiden Chow

@graffe obviously he wants to get good at c smh :P

graffe

16:13

@AidenChow yes :) but graphics, data handling, speed ?

PyGamer0

data handling

basic pointer management things

Aiden Chow

try code golfing in c, youll get all the practice u need! /hj

graffe

I mean you could work through w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises

adventofcode.com/2021 would be more fun

In fact I recommend that

@PyGamer0 have you tried the advent of code?

PyGamer0

no

graffe

@PyGamer0 give that a go. If you can't do day one, give up though as they get more difficult

DLosc

16:21

@pxeger Husk and Nibbles have entered the chat

pxeger

good point

graffe

And use -Wall -Wextra

pxeger

I was thinking about "traditional" dynamically typed golfing languages

PyGamer0

@graffe i think i can do day 1

i have done it in jelly after all :P

thejonymyster

if your code page isnt all the same size (like how unicode has characters that are multiple bytes etc) whats that called? not a SBCS since its not Single Byte, so would it just be a Code Sheet / Code Page ?

graffe

16:28

@PyGamer0 this is good!

@PyGamer0 oh how many days have you done?

Seggan

16:43

@PyGamer0 null

@thejonymyster character encoding?

thejonymyster

@Seggan yeah i suppose, but i guess i was just wondering if it had a special name like SBCS or HBCS, or if those ones only have special names because of the fixed character size :P

i suppose its the latter

Radvylf Programs

17:07

@thejonymyster A Variable-width encoding

@Seggan Look at how Rust does it

Rust 100% does OOP better than any other language

pxeger

I would say that's because Rust doesn't do OOP

thejonymyster

@RadvylfPrograms aha, thank you. i forgot the term and was thinking about "variadic"

Radvylf Programs

@pxeger I mean, it does pretty much everything you can do with OOP though, and borrows a lot of concepts from it

pxeger

And I think Rust's "OOP" is almost exactly the same as Go's

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms did ya see the example code i gave?

technically the structs dont even have instance methods

Radvylf Programs

17:19

I did not

Seggan

2 hours ago, by Seggan

A short showoff of my language: https://pastebin.com/HEBj4XvR

hmm rusts traits are java interfaces?

Radvylf Programs

@Seggan That looks a lot like how Rust does it

pxeger

@Seggan Sort of

Radvylf Programs

You'd do impl StructName { fn do_thing(&self, other: StructName) -> StructName { StructName::new(...) } }

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms tbh i never even peeked at rust so that was a coincidence :P

Radvylf Programs

17:22

I'd recommend looking at Rust then, seems you've converged on a lot of the same evolutions of OOP that Rust has

Seggan

tl;dr in rol instance methods are syntatic sugar

thats why there is a "this" parameter in the example

Radvylf Programs

Same with Rust, e.g., (21).to_string() is the same as i32::to_string(21)

Wezl'

hot take: fn(arg) is way overdone, choose something interesting or I'm never looking at your language again :P

Seggan

nah its permanent in all clikes :P

pxeger

fn arg?

Wezl'

17:23

(same with .mth(arg))

PyGamer0

@graffe 1,2,3,6

Radvylf Programs

@Wezl' fn[arg]

pxeger

@pxeger as in Haskell, Ruby, Nim

PyGamer0

and i think i cpoied six from someone

Wezl'

@pxeger yes much better

caird coinheringaahing

17:24

@Wezl' fn!arg*

pxeger

or fn $ arg? or arg & fn

Radvylf Programs

@pxeger Even better, fn(arg) because (arg) is a 1-length tuple

Seggan

@Wezl' @fn:arg|code;

Wezl'

@cairdcoinheringaahing guarantees I'll look at it, but only in disgust

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms Oh I gotta find that incredibly blursed language I made that used this

pxeger

17:25

@Seggan that's for defining functions, not calling them, though, right?

Radvylf Programs

I know I talked about it in TNB two years back

caird coinheringaahing

Clearly, all reasonable languages skip any fn or arg, and simply assume that each line of code is an independent function, that does a different thing depending on how many arguments it is passed

Radvylf Programs

But no clue what it was called or how I'd find it

Basically, all function calls were also constructors

All the local variables would be properties of the return value

pxeger

God was that 2 years ago?

Radvylf Programs

IIRC I typed that while sitting on the gym floor in health class in 9th grade, so yes

I know I thought of the concept in middle school

PyGamer0

17:27

@RadvylfPrograms rSNBATWPL

?

Wezl'

@RadvylfPrograms sitting on the gym floor in health class in 9th grade, my favorite pastime

PyGamer0

oh wait didnt that use {}

Radvylf Programs

Yeah

And it was pretty recent

thejonymyster

[arg,arg,arg...]=>fn

Radvylf Programs

I made that while in business management in 10th grade

thejonymyster

17:28

as long as were being inventive :P

pxeger

@RadvylfPrograms Well in that case it could've been only 1½ years right

Radvylf Programs

It could have, but I'm pretty sure it was early on in the year because I sat on a different part of the floor for most of the rest of the year

Oh interesting, it was one year ago almost exactly

So I guess I was just designing the language on the floor in 9th grade

thejonymyster

did they not have desks at your school

Radvylf Programs

Not in the gym, no

it would get in the way of basketball practice

Wezl'

@thejonymyster sitting on desks smh :P

Radvylf Programs

17:35

I found it!

It was called TAGL

import game
import player
import regions
import items

regions.config:

    list: [
        "start",
        "farm",
        "village",
        "cave",
        "tunnel",
        "boss_fight",
        "victory",
        "death"
    ]

game.init:

    player.region: "start"
    player.items: []

    regions.init

You can see an example here of a few cursed behaviors

regions.config is both a function and a config object

regions.init is a function call

pxeger

You could have [] be generator functions

Radvylf Programs

I found a FizzBuzz too. Also, the import syntax seems to have been import[game] at one point, and import["game"] shortly after that

pxeger

Clearly, it should be game: import.game

Radvylf Programs

Oh god this was during my assembly phase, so there was TAGLasm too, as a transpilation target for TAGL

Thankfully the only description of the syntax I wrote down was add ax, bx

Oh no I don't even want to imagine how this would have worked

> game.io.print[all[2, 3, 4]] # This will be repeated once for each value: 2, 3, 4

The idea being that this would be equivalent to game.io.print[2]; game.io.print[3]; game.io.print[4];

Actually, that'd be pretty neat...a language where you could do something like print(all(0, 1) + all(8, 20)) to get 8 9 20 21

@RadvylfPrograms Oh okay, apparently import xyz is syntactic sugar for import["xyz"]

Wezl'

@RadvylfPrograms there are definitely languages like this

rats forgot my examples' names

logic programming languages can certainly be good at dealing with multiple solutions

Radvylf Programs

17:51

I remember stopping work on TAGL since there ended up being some sort of amiguity that just completely ruined the syntax, but it'd be pretty cool to get it working

Well I can already see a big one, that being that if/for are indistinguishable from function declarations

DLosc

@Wezl' (fn arg)

Seggan

@pxeger yeah

its called vyxal

thejonymyster

18:28

@Wezl' arg.fn ?

att

18:45

@RadvylfPrograms mathematica does this :)

Seggan

19:00

@RadvylfPrograms lol i managed to think of a version of rusts traits independently too

graffe

Comments on codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25127/108721

please

(and maybe an upvote if you think I deserve it)

Radvylf Programs

It doesn't feel like a code golf question

It feels like a math puzzle that you just happen to need to write a code golf answer for

(If that's what you need to do, it's not clear)

graffe

Oh sorry it's code challenge. Let me add that

Radvylf Programs

What's the scoring criterion?

graffe

The lower the expected cost the better

Radvylf Programs

19:10

I don't think that scoring criterion fits on CGCC

It's just going to be a race to find the optimal solution, which will then be lazily ported

graffe

@RadvylfPrograms are you sure?

That hasn't happened in the past

Porting it won't help you win remember

". If two answers have the same strategy, the one posted first wins"

That rule is why

Radvylf Programs

That seems unobservable

graffe

What do you mean?

Radvylf Programs

Well, I guess it isn't

graffe

You mean you can't tell if someone has posred someone else's solution?

@RadvylfPrograms sorry, what isn't?

Radvylf Programs

19:14

The same strategy thing

graffe

Got you

It's possible someone will come up with something brilliant which is unbeatable

But I don't know if that is terrible if it happens

posred was meant to be posted (sorry)

My real love is fastest-code questions but those are harder to devise and you have to run everyone's code

Radvylf Programs

But not for long! RTO will have a fastest-code environment.

graffe

Oh that would be great!

I don't know what RTO is :(

Radvylf Programs

Run This Online, my online interpreter

graffe

I can't wait!

Seggan

19:24

@graffe same lol

ive got a bounty for fastest-code questions

thejonymyster

that reminds me i was gonna ask; what are good things to make fastest code about? :P

graffe

@thejonymyster we have had some great ones

152

Q: How slow is Python really? (Or how fast is your language?)

I have this code which I have written in Python/NumPy from __future__ import division import numpy as np import itertools n = 6 iters = 1000 firstzero = 0 bothzero = 0 """ The next line iterates over arrays of length n+1 which contain only -1s and 1s """ for S in itertools.product([-1, 1], repe...

fastest-code

Answer, very slow :)

I am sad we don't seem to get nim answers any more

Feeds

Submit Questions for the Upcoming Moderator Election

9

graffe

This was pretty amazing

38

Q: Bentley's coding challenge: k most frequent words

This is perhaps one of the classical coding challenges that got some resonance in 1986, when columnist Jon Bentley asked Donald Knuth to write a program that would find k most frequent words in a file. Knuth implemented a fast solution using hash tries in an 8-pages-long program to illustrate his...

fastest-code

@thejonymyster I'll stop now :)

thejonymyster

19:46

ty though i will definitely be looking at these :eyes:

Seggan

@Feeds hmm

caird coinheringaahing

@Feeds Past election questions: 2016, 2018, 2022

emanresu A

20:01

> How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?

That's me lol

(minus the arguments)

Seggan

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh nice

pxeger

@Feeds @AncientSwordRage Would you mind editing this message so it says something more descriptive as a pin on the starboard? Something like **[Submit Questions for the Upcoming Moderator Election](https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/q/25128)**

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA I think you've misread it: it means that the user gets flagged a lot, not that they raise a lot of flags :P

pxeger

@pxeger (Just pinging you since you're currently the most recently active network moderator in chat)

thejonymyster

misread that as you pinging yourself since youre the most recently active mod

pxeger

20:07

@Steffan This can be proven by induction

The full proof is left as an exercise to the reader.

thejonymyster

17 hours ago, by caird coinheringaahing

You originally had 0 answers, then you wrote a new one. Rinse and repeat

pxeger

Not a formal enough proof

needs more obnoxious maths jargon

Unrelated String

@RadvylfPrograms what the hell kind of class is business management

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Let n be the number of answers written by a given user. It is trivial to see that, at some given point in time, the user had written 0 answers. Assume the user, having written n answers, will write an additional answer. Therefore, by induction, we conclude that the user has written an arbitrary number of answers

Radvylf Programs

20:25

@UnrelatedString Falls under Career and Technical Education

Didn't choose to be in it, ended up there because of schedule issues

DLosc

Ooh, Philosophy.SE got a site design

graffe

Has anyone here got the power to delete this answer? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/252048/108721

DLosc

20:41

@graffe I cast the final delete vote.

graffe

@DLosc thanks

I feel I have had challenges I have posed closed more quickly :)

DLosc

Probably so--anyone who's looking to answer a challenge will read the challenge and form an opinion on whether it needs to be closed, whereas not everyone who's looking to answer a challenge will read every existing answer to that challenge.

caird coinheringaahing

It was 25 minutes old when it entered the review queues as well

hyper-neutrino

also challenges get posted here, answers don't (especially back when radvylf's bot was alive they got posted instantly)

Unrelated String

21:10

@RadvylfPrograms oh yeah i remember that now

rip

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