The Nineteenth Byte - 2022-06-09 (page 1 of 3)

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emanresu A

00:03

TIL win11.blueedge.me

Neil

ooh, my three badge counts are all factors of 1 million

emanresu A

Pip is hard

And I guess the LYAL's over

Nobody Needs Names

00:24

when's this starting

13

Q: Chat Event Refinement: Make You a Lang for Great Good

We have decided to make a chat event based on language creation. In this post, we will discuss how we should do it. The event would just be a time dedicated to showing off WIP languages, get feedback on codepages/features/whatever from other people, and for those other people to just generally me...

discussion chat chat-events

Oh, and I changed my pfp

cuz we are celebrating half christmas, right?

see?

smarnav

much better than a quarter Christmas or a third Christmas

Radvylf Programs

Transcendental number of Christmases

des54321

irrational fraction of a christmas

smarnav

00:39

sqrt(-1) christmas

lyxal

That's enough Christmases for now

Nobody Needs Names

wahaha

wait

is half christmas 6/12.5 or 6/12 or 6/13 or 6/25

lyxal

Don't spam stars please

smarnav

6/25

Nobody Needs Names

oh ok

@smarnav thanks

Jo King

00:54

25/24 for non-americans

Nobody Needs Names

wait

why

?

@JoKing .

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Tell me how many there are, in Polish

smarnav

@JoKing can you overview this. I'm getting ready to post it: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/24852/104373

thejonymyster

@smarnav i wouldnt post that with 0 upvotes, needs more time in the oven

Nobody Needs Names

bah, now it isn't 0 upvotes

@JoKing why?

Jo King

01:13

because christmas falls on the 25th of december

so half of 25/12 would be 25/24 in the normal date order, rather than the reversed american order

lyxal

Sorry to all you Atom users, but github is abandoning it at the end of this year

github.blog/2022-06-08-sunsetting-atom

Jo King

@smarnav is the output meant to have the original ascii underneath it?

i'd also recommend against carriage returns, since they may be hard to enter in some contexts

emanresu A

01:38

@DLosc Other than using g, how does one take a list as input in Pip?

des54321

@emanresuA I figure a list can be one of your arguments?

emanresu A

You'd think, but ATO gives an error and DSO treats it as a string

des54321

huh youre right

maybe you cant give a list as input other than as it being your args

forest

02:11

@Niko Nice avatar.

1 hour later…

Nobody Needs Names

03:37

should multiple entries of a koth be seperate posts?

PyGamer0

04:03

@lyxal sad

Nobody Needs Names

04:45

hello?

1 hour later…

Nobody Needs Names

05:48

seriously, anyone?

should multiple entries of a koth be seperate posts?

Hello, World!

06:15

1

A: "Hello, World!"

A very long language name that is very weird and yeah, this is your but its this, 80 bytes. A very long language name that is very weird and yeah, this is your but its this

0

A: "Hello, World!"

Your, 4 bytes your This is a weird esolang, basically the number of "your" in your code will yield a different output.

Nobody Needs Names

?..

Jo King

06:29

@NobodyNeedsNames yes

Nobody Needs Names

@JoKing thank you

Hello, World!

0

A: "Hello, World!"

A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor, 93 bytes charms 72. 101. 108. 108. 111. 44. 32. 119. 111. 114. 108. 100. 33. 10﹔ print﹔ give up﹔ This is an esolang, and the goal of the language was to make it as annoying as possible to program.

Sandbox Posts

07:22

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Infinite Prisoner's Infilemma Introduction In this king-of-the-hill challenge, you are going to write a program that will play the game of the Infinite Prisoner's Infilemma. This game is based on the classic game of the name Infinite Prisoner's Dilemma . The original inspiration for this game cam...

Nobody Needs Names

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Infinite Prisoner's Infilemma Introduction In this king-of-the-hill challenge, you are going to write a program that will play the game of the Infinite Prisoner's Infilemma. This game is based on the classic game of the name Infinite Prisoner's Dilemma . The original inspiration for this game cam...

can someone help me? thanks

2 hours later…

mathcat

09:13

This has got to be the funniest error message I've seen

5

Nobody Needs Names

Pah, there should be a "I love 3rd person" button

mathcat

ooh yeah

1 hour later…

pxeger

10:45

→ 2 messages moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

Ginger

10:58

nNtte ieeeny ethThB

@mathcat so what is this from?

mathcat

Processing

I think I accidentally deleted some folder

Ginger

never heard of it

mathcat

what

Ginger

clearly some programmer was having a good time tho

mathcat

yeah lol

Ginger

11:00

oh right that

I rember now

mathcat

No you're ginger

Ginger

in Off-Topic TNB, 21 hours ago, by lyxal

@thejonymyster You Fool, you Blongus, you absolute utter Clampongus

I never said "I am rember now", did I?

mathcat

okay okay

Ginger

hahaaaa I victorious

:p

user

@lyxal oof

Knew it was coming but it’s still sad

They said they’re going to focus more on codespaces, does that mean that’s going to become free?

mathcat

11:10

Atom is Github's?

user

Yeah

It’s open source but that’s where it started iirc

mathcat

wow

Ginger

11:23

you never ask:
- a man: his age
- a woman: her salary
- Ginger: about lambda.chat user #-210

Adám

@Ginger - an APLer: his index origin

mathcat

@Ginger you should change user #-210's description to this

lyxal

11:54

I made 2048 in Vyxal because I have no life and because I thought it'd be interesting lol

4

mathcat

Wow I'm gonna make tic tac toe

Ginger

@mathcat can't see it

mathcat

Oh, I forgot, max char length is 125

Ginger

12:15

wait how the hell did you edit that description

@mathcat how did you do it

mathcat

You forgot I'm hacker101

gimme one sec

Ginger

SERIOUSLY HOW THE FOK DID YOU DO IT

mathcat

uhm

I did lots of things I don't know which caused it to change

Ginger

ANSWER ME AT ONCE

thejonymyster

never ask: a user: how they changed their description

mathcat

12:18

@Ginger one sec I'll try to recreate it

Oh wait just edit works

Ginger

WHAT

mathcat

I tried some fetch stuff too

Ginger

you've got to be fucking kidding me

mathcat

calm down

look

user.js line 19

here look I did that yesterday

Ginger

try editing my bio

mathcat

12:22

okay

Ginger

you shouldn't be able to

mathcat

user id?

Ginger

2893150

if this works I am going to cry

mathcat

okay

Ginger

OH MY GOD

show me the code you used

emanresu A

12:23

Lol

@lyxal wow.

Ginger

I'm pressing the Emergency Stop Button

mathcat

@Ginger what I didn't do anything

Adám

Does anyone know where I can get custom printed fridge magnets that are all different (i.e. I can upload design for the entire sheet)? Similar to this but with all pieces being the same size. (This is on-topic.)

user

@mathcat Where's that from?

mathcat

I still see "I'm just a dev"

Ginger

12:24

I edited it back

mathcat

@user partially by me, partially by gpt-3

Ginger

now, HOW DID YOU DO IT

thejonymyster

@Adám omg fridge programming :D

mathcat

@Ginger I just tested it first with edit. I wanted to try fetch later

thejonymyster

are you doing a challenge where you can only use each character once :P

Ginger

12:25

@mathcat so you POSTed the data?

Adám

Not really, but I want to be able to do code golf on my fridge.

mathcat

@Ginger no I didn't you baloney

emanresu A

@Adám You'd need APL glyph magnets for that

Ginger

is the edit link visible? because it sure shouldn't be

thejonymyster

@mathcat hey cut the harsh language thats a really hurtful thing to call someone :P

Adám

12:26

@emanresuA Yes, hence my need for custom printing.

mathcat

@Ginger it is

user

@Adám This was the first result I got when I googled it

Ginger

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

lyxal

@thejonymyster indeed, the correct terminology is to call them an utter clampongus :p

mathcat

@thejonymyster lol

user

12:27

They let you have different shapes and designs

Adám

@user Plenty of such services, printing many of a single design. I want one or a few of each of many "designs".

user

Ah

thejonymyster

ah ok i misunderstood i was like "why would you want only exactly one of each" :P

mathcat

@Ginger well just hide it then /jk

lyxal

@Ginger your replit doesn't want to do life

user image

Ginger

12:29

I used my emergency stop

please do NOT use the site while I fix this

mathcat

@Ginger The POSt code is from user.js, line 19

user

@lyxal That's pretty understandable, do you respond to people right after you awaken?

emanresu A

@Ginger SERVER-SIDE AUTHENTICATION

lyxal

@user how tf did this ping me after I closed my laptop lid?

like it locked itself and everything yet it still played audio

Ginger

well, I found it

user

12:30

No one is safe from my pings

Adám

OK, the place I linked to can do a custom order, but it has a $500 setup fee!

emanresu A

:|

lyxal

@user Nah my computer is just special

Ginger

due to me reversing a greater-then sign, every user except for moderators could edit any bio

emanresu A

LMAO

Ginger

12:31

: |

user

@Adám Get Dyalog to make its own magnets :P

emanresu A

o/

user

Or order them wholesale

lyxal

@Ginger Ah yes, moderation, a demotion of user privileges

mathcat

@Ginger max-length is handled on the server-side, right?

Ginger

12:32

@mathcat yes

mathcat

I'm not going to try to hack that

user

I love the commit messages here

lyxal

Thank you hyper very cool

Ginger

user image

user

lol yeah he sacrificed his time and sanity so we could have a meme bot

Adám

12:34

@user That's what I'm trying to do, but we sure don't have the hardware, so I have to find some company that can do it for us.

user

The "fuck you" commit is why I went looking through the commit history. For some reason, package-lock.json was added to .gitignore

lyxal

@user truly an innovation of our times

Ginger

imagine not using sechat

oop OLIMAR crashed again

lyxal

@Ginger Well we probably used to, but now we use js

Ginger

no, you coudn't have

because sechat is my library

and is unreleased due to being unstable

lyxal

12:36

@Ginger see that's how little I know about the bot's internals

mathcat

@lyxal oh noxan bot should use that too

thejonymyster

@Adám funny potential problem: you send the exact characters and get back mojibaked fridge magnets :P

lyxal

Fricknut ginger just said it's a proprietary library

Ginger

it's a damn good thing that yall noticed that bug before it went live d:

@lyxal it's not proprietary, just unstable

so I haven't released it yet

@emanresuA what

Adám

@thejonymyster Yeah, and there'd be font issues to, which is why I want to submit an image.

Ginger

12:38

@mathcat I can't get to pastebin, can you make a gist?

thejonymyster

apl better step its game up you can probably already fridge program in one of those emoji code languages :P

actually wait i wonder if any other "programming magnets" exist im gonna google it

wow a cursory google tells me no

i was totally expecting to see some while ( ) magnets :o

Ginger

be the change

thejonymyster

ok: i'll be 16 cents

mathcat

@Ginger Here

Ginger

hahaha

lyxal

12:42

@Ginger how come when I update my replit pfp it doesn't change on lambda.chat?

Ginger

known issue

thanks for reminding, fixing now

lyxal

dang

guess I'll forever be a man of the [pipis]

Ginger

> Joe is fond of grocery writedziezen with expiration dates.

Adám

Hm, I can get adhesive small cut magnets. I guess I could just print glyphs on paper or card and stick on those.

mathcat

@Ginger Can I try to change your description now?

Ginger

12:44

@lyxal I can update it by FORCE if you want

mathcat

I won't do anything evil

Ginger

@mathcat sure, you won't be able to

lyxal

@Ginger yes please

Ginger

ok

lyxal

much better

Ginger

12:44

yup, it worked

where should I put the "refresh PFP" button?

mathcat

ugh frick I can't do POST no more

Ginger

wot

jesus fucking shit lyxal what did you DO

lyxal

w...

Ginger

user image

my database isn't supposed to look like that

mathcat

lol

Ginger

12:56

I don't know what you did but it caused a 504 Gateway Timeout on my end

mathcat

gg lyxal

lyxal

oh

right

the copypasta

Ginger

time to add a room name length limit

mathcat

"Unable To Wake Up"

But all I want to do is crash your server :/

Ginger

trying to fix

and we're back

user image

well, I can't argue with that

we are eggxperienceing teggnical difficulties

mathcat

13:03

(probably because of me sorry)

I'm hacker101

don't ask me what I did

Ginger

ayyy it worked

mathcat

I won't give up until I've changed Ginger's description

Ginger

give up, you can't

mathcat

Hecker's grandma can't

Ginger

what

mathcat

13:09

gimme an hour

PyGamer0

13:20

@lyxal wow

dang thats very cool

can this be done in jelly?

lyxal

probably, but it would take a bit longer than the few hours it took me

PyGamer0

frick

flax's fold and scans are implemented wrong

      +`[1,2,3,4,5]
>>>
[5,9,12,14,15]

vs

      +\⍳5
1 3 6 10 15

i hate this..

mathcat

13:37

The browser (or proxy) sent a request that this server could not understand.

well nice you can't make rooms without a name

pxeger

@PyGamer0 it's scanning in reverse? how do you manage to do that by accident

PyGamer0

because i am bad at programming

lyxal

user image

@Ginger that's a lot of 502s

PyGamer0

@pxeger because scanr is not foldr

ngn.codeberg.page/k#eJzTjjFUMFIwVjBRMOWqrtSuqI2pgQsAAF1MBnw=

here is how it should be implemented

thejonymyster

13:53

where's that one meta that lists a bunch of different languages and how their bytes are counted

pxeger

53

Q: How to count bytes FAQ

We've got a lot of questions asking how to count the bytes in different situations. This question is here to put them all in one spot. General questions How to count "interactive" answers and flags (revised to: Let's solve the flag problem once and for all) How to count REPLs How to count multip...

discussion faq code-golf answers scoring

thejonymyster

ah i forgot to check faq i shot straight for policy

ty

lyxal

user image

mathcat

wow

lyxal

:thonk:

i dunno something tells me that maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with this bio

@thejonymyster what do you think?

thejonymyster

14:06

@lyxal youre right, i forgot to link my linkedin

lyxal

I knew it!

I knew something was off!

boy does it feel good to be right :p

thejonymyster

i was waiting for someone to notice lol

user

Why does tumblr always feel to me like it's something from the early 2000s?

lyxal

what's funny is that is was actually from the late 2000s

@thejonymyster is this by any chance you?

thejonymyster

yep :P

@lyxal theres just nothing worth linking to there so i dont have a reason to have it on display lol

maybe if i finish some cool project ill actually link it

but right now its like... classwork i did for a programming class... some months to a year ago?

lyxal

14:16

@thejonymyster nonsense. I found tic-tac-toe there

thejonymyster

good god youre right

the people need to know

it should be ultimate tic tac toe btw :P i thought our group was being extra clever but other people programmed like 3d games xd

i should clean it up at some point probably, most of what's on there doesn't really need to be

lyxal

user image

I'm really good at this

I've beaten myself twice now!

thejonymyster

uh oh that doesnt look right :P luckily that never came up during presentation

i forgot there was css in that project too, it does look pretty nice visually :D

yknow ive actually learned a lot since then i wonder if i could like, do it better

also do we have a tic tac toe/ultimate tic tac toe challenge

lyxal

wow 3-0 to me against me

I'm just the best at this

thejonymyster

lyxal you are fucking unstoppable

oh wow we have a tic-tac-toe tag

Seggan

14:29

@lyxal impressive

lyxal

in Vyxal, 38 secs ago, by Vyxal Bot

@lyxal I am doing things that advance society. Can't say the same about you.

just got roasted by a bot

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Nobody Needs Names

14:47

@lyxal where is it may i ask

lyxal

github.com/thejonymyster/4LOOP

Seggan

thejonymyster.github.io/4LOOP

lyxal

wait a minute there's a github.io version? wow I was just using refined github's preview feature lol

Ginger

@lyxal *cough* replit's fault

lyxal

why does it take 539 years to load the site?

Ginger

14:50

good fooking question

lyxal

thank you, I try my best

Ginger

dya think I should send replit an angrymail?

lyxal

up to you

but I'mma send myself a sleepmail

later nerds

thejonymyster

replit is the wosrt ever ever ever

goodnight

Ginger

user image

bullshit

Seggan

14:52

thats why i use cloudflare pages

user

You still need a backend right?

@Ginger I'd highly recommend PythonAnywhere

Seggan

@user either cloudflare workers or cloudflare functions

user

Super reliable, good tutorials, and it's still Python

@Seggan Oh nice

Is Cloudflare functions like AWS lambda?

Seggan

best of all, its free

user

nvm imma look it up myself

Seggan

14:53

@user idk what that is

user

Ooh

Seggan

basically a backend in the same code area as your frontend

and same url

cloudflare is awesome

i made an automagic error reporter using CF workers

thejonymyster

yo dog i herd u liek web design so we put your backend in your frontend so you can (???) while you (!!!)

5

user

Honestly idk if I like the backend being the same as the frontend, seems kinda two-dimensional :P

Seggan

not the same

just in the same project

so you dont have to keep 2 vscode windows open

user

14:56

Hush lemme make a joke

Seggan

also they share urls

user

@Seggan Well tbf you can do this even in a "normal" project

But this does sound convenient

Seggan

also CF required a github repo per project

so youd need a frontend and a backend repo

but with functions it can be 1 repo

mathcat

@Seggan the what

why would you ever have two vscode windows open

no u

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