The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

00:02

Wow numbers over 60 on a microwave feel so wrong.

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms ^^

emanresu A

Weirdest statistic I've ever heard: "average median"

lyxal

Context?

emanresu A

Maths class

A bunch of people got given sets to take the median of, then the teacher asked what the average median was

lyxal

At least 3

forest

00:15

That makes sense if there are a number of medians.

Since average and median are different things.

emanresu A

I guess, yeah, but it still sounds wrong

emanresu A

00:30

'So, might be able to not use app inventor by just yeeting in a webview

lyxal

Tell me about it

I tried lots of ways to escape the blocks

I tried putting JS in a data:html link, I tried making a server that passed code and exec'd it and put the results on the page, and more

but nothing ever worked

Radvylf Programs

@Ginger Will it be its own language or part of the python language?

emanresu A

@lyxal Ah frick.

lyxal

mostly because there's no way to read back the contents of a webview

Unrelated String

lmao

emanresu A

00:43

@lyxal Oof

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Q: Plot Slope Fields Given Differential Equation

Slope fields or direction fields, are a graphical representation of the solutions to a first-order differential equation of a scalar function. A slope field shows the slope of a differential equation at certain vertical and horizontal intervals on the cartesian plane, and can be used to determine...

OldSandboxPosts

01:00

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: In need of title., Convert to Shorthand

emanresu A

@NewPosts Sympy eval would be great for this...

But it has my downvote for forcing eval in such a way

Unrelated String

it's probably just a poorly worded permissive format; ask them if a black box function or some such is acceptable

Sandbox Posts

01:13

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Haplology Haplology is a linguistic term: the omission of one occurrence of a sound or syllable that is repeated within a word, for example probly for probably. For this challenge, it means specifically, replacing any sequences of two or more letters that are repeated two or more times with jus...

Unrelated String

~~disappointed the title isn't haplogy~~

emanresu A

01:38

Is a function that takes x and y acceptable as input? — emanresu A 28 mins ago

Are you talking about \$\frac{dy}{dx} = x \wedge y\$? — VJZ 25 mins ago

No, I mean a function f(x, y) which is passed to our program. — emanresu A 22 mins ago

Yes, but keep in mind, the "function" is actually the derivative. — VJZ 21 mins ago

Is this guy trying to confuse me?

Unrelated String

he'd have to be

yeah what

Sandbox Posts

02:00

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Who needs 8 bits for one character? Given a string and the characters used to encode it, you need to comrpess the string by only using as many bits as each character needs. You will return the character codes for each character needed to create a compressed string. For example, given the string "...

emanresu A

02:31

The saga of app inventor continues

save my soul, please

... and I just found out there's no way to sleep or setInterval

lyxal

it do be like that

but if I can figure out how to make a base 64 encoder + a sort of hashing algorithm using blocks you can do whatever pain you're doing

emanresu A

Okay, found that there's a clock. How do I find it?

I can't find the "when <clock> timer" thing

@lyxal ^?

lyxal

wouldn't it be under timer?

btw I used Thunkable, not app inventor, so there could be a few differences

emanresu A

Oh :P

Never mind

Unrelated String

02:55

makes you worry about the state of the world that there are multiple competing terrible block languages for hs/college classes

7

emanresu A

03:20

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A: Should we rehash Add A Language To A Polyglot?

I was the original poster of the original challenge, and have had some thoughts about what I'd change if doing it again. (Note: these are only thoughts, not directives or requirements, and it's quite possible that some might make the challenge worse if implemented, but I feel like I should let pe...

Did not know ais did that

Pyautogui

03:59

I am a massive fan of ais523. His maths, esolanging, and golfing skills are really quite out-of-this world.

PyGamer0

05:00

emanresu A

... interesting

PyGamer0

05:32

FRICK

i was editing something and the page reloaded and i lost it ÷_=

emanresu A

I hay it when that happesn

lyxal

big yikes

emanresu A

App inventor? More like crap inventor

lyxal

ha gotem

*dabs*

PyGamer0

it didnt even cache it !.!

lyxal

05:37

even bigger yikes

Unrelated String

wait doesn't ato constantly update the url as you type

PyGamer0

yes thats why you should use ato

i was editing a gist

Unrelated String

ah

PyGamer0

@UnrelatedString maybe dzaima/paste should also do that ...

lyxal

05:57

Apparently we're a mathematics SE chat room now

Unrelated String

if you've switched between here and the .*le room it might have cached the favicon and title separately somehow

Aiden Chow

the hell is .*le

oh wait is that regex

Unrelated String

yeah

lyxal

@UnrelatedString that's what's happened

Aiden Chow

ah ok i see

Unrelated String

06:00

makes sense

emanresu A

nerdlegame 105 4/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛🟩🟩⬛
🟪⬛⬛⬛🟪🟩🟩⬛
🟩🟩🟪🟩⬛🟩🟩🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

mini nerdlegame 105 2/6

🟩⬛⬛🟩⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Okay wtf

Unrelated String

good question

emanresu A

Oops forgot

Aiden Chow

07:08

got todays wordle in one guess :D

PyGamer0

@user he doesnt do stuff on my account now

that was only thrice

and i dont want to be RO anyways \o/

Unrelated String

07:45

that's a lot of times

Aiden Chow

3 times more than normal :P

lyxal

I've let that happen 0 times on my account

Because I don't have any siblings :p

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Q: find pi using random function

So I went to an interview for a job and the interviewer asked me a programing question (like they often do), He told me the question could fit in one sentence and said "find the value of pi only using the random function" What I undertood was the answer can fit in one line... And I coudn't figure...

random pi

Unrelated String

reminds me of when i interviewed for cambridge lmao

lyxal

08:12

(´･_･`) they changed the menu on DDG for Android and now it looks really unfamiliar

I thought I was using Firefox or Vivaldi for a moment until I realised it was DDG

Which confused me because I'm only signed in here on DDG

PyGamer0

08:50

@NewPosts x=rand()*4;while x!=pi:x=rand()*4

emanresu A

09:39

Lol

emanresu A

09:58

tfw Gundefined

lyxal

404 ammunition not found

PyGamer0

my brother is wearing a shirt that says HN on it...

lyxal

Just back away slowly and everything will be fine. Hyperification only impacts those within 3 feet

PyGamer0

is he now hyper-neutrino?

lyxal

He will be soon

PyGamer0

10:04

oh no

user

@lyxal ono are they using chromium

PyGamer0

then who is the real HN!?

lyxal

@user it looks kind of like chromium but I doubt they've switched that quickly

emanresu A

10:18

Perfection

3

PyGamer0

10:35

where is the zero :p

Ginger

10:49

MAY THE FOUTH BE WITH YOU!

lyxal

@Ginger it's been with me all day

Y'all Americans need to catch up time-wise

Y'all always in the past like a bunch of nerds.

Ginger

...what kind of false-equivalence is that

lyxal

It's a timezone joke

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms It's a Python module

but will eventually be in more languages

I'm just doing Python first

@emanresuA ooh, this gives me an idea

CMC: Create a regex that matches the usernames of everyone in this chatroom right now

(and please don't use something like .*, that's cheating)

wait, no

that is a bad challenge

lyxal

@Ginger "(" + "|".join(TNB.usernames) + ")"

Ginger

10:57

@emanresuA hey wait you forgot me

Perfecter perfection

amnyway

lyxal

@lyxal that should probably be map(lambda chat_user: chat_user.username, chat.rooms.getByID(THE_NINETEENTH_BYTE).getUsers())

Instead of just TNB.usernames

More modular that way

Ginger

really it would be SE.chat.server(SE.chat.CHAT_STACKEXCHANGE).login().getRoomByID(240).users()

lyxal

Why the login?

User list is public info

Ginger

because you might not want to autoconnect

oh, it is?

huh

lyxal

You've never accessed chat without being logged in?

Ginger

11:08

not really

Someday, I will make a better SE Chat library

Neil

@Seggan what changed in java 17?

Ginger

h

Neil

11:25

@emanresuA No. 4 is incorrect, it actually returns undefined if you try. I got no. 7 wrong though, I forgot that the var doesn't actually assign the variable until the statement is reached, so I thought it was 1, 2, 2, 1.

user

@lyxal weird, I’m on ios and it’s still the same

@Neil iirc it uses different encodings depending on the contents of the string

Neil

@user huh, I thought it was Java 9 where it did that

user

Oh

Yeah I’m probably remembering incorrectly, maybe they started using utf8 in 17

mathcat

I skedaddled my way in.

Ginger

11:40

hello math

lyxal

@user I updated the app

Ginger

12:14

I am working on a new SE Chat client

because I can

Ginger

12:27

whee janky hax

lyxal

12:37

@Ginger they always ask "can something be done" never "should it be done"

Ginger

well said

Adám

13:04

CMC: Given a TIO link, return the corresponding ATO link.

Where was that library to work with TIO links?

user

How do you map languages?

Not all languages on tio are on ato and vice versa

Versions and dialects make it hard too

This is a Chat Mega Challenge :p

Romanp

@UnrelatedString Back in my day, we programmed in Scratch 1.2 and we LIKED it!

Adám

@user It was (mostly) a joke challenge, but if given the ATO language as separate argument, it should be doable.

Ginger

I shall defeat the CAPTCHA

(by saving cookies)

MUAHAHAHA

it can't quite tell if I'm a human or a script
well, I AM a script...

maybe there's a better, less janky way to do this

PyGamer0

13:28

what encoding does tio / ato use?

Ginger

NICE

PyGamer0

dzaima/paste looks like it uses raw deflate + base64...

Ginger

I have successfully used cookie caching to avoid the captcha and massively speed up login times!

:D

Adám

@PyGamer0 TIO uses gzip.

PyGamer0

@Adám oh,

Adám

13:33

Here is code to issue TIO requests from within APL.

PyGamer0

@Adám does it use gzip+base 64 or just gzip?

Adám

Looks plain.

PyGamer0

ok

CMC: Write an html parser.

Jo King

ÑØ

Adám

@PyGamer0 vtc as unclear

PyGamer0

13:41

the html will only consist of tags (nested or not) and things inside the tags

no need to handle anything else

tags always close

Adám

So, XHTML.

But what exactly does "parse" mean?

PyGamer0

output a parse tree

wait let me make an example

pxeger

Can we output the parse tree in XML?

PyGamer0

uhh well that would be just the input itself right?

example

lyxal

@PyGamer0 that could very well be the joke

PyGamer0

13:53

wow the gui i use for neovim has 6.9k stars lol

pxeger

@lyxal indeed

lyxal

10/10 wonderful joke

would enjoy again

PyGamer0

CMC:

Ginger

oh dear

chat broken successfully

lyxal

@PyGamer0 Vyxal: ĠvLG

@Ginger what have you done this time?

PyGamer0

13:59

@lyxal how does that work?

lyxal

Group consecutive, lengths of each, maximum

Ginger

@lyxal misunderstood how cookies work and given chat an invalid fkey

lyxal

here

take mine

Ginger

wait, I'm actually not sure what I did

PyGamer0

@lyxal nice ∆#'Ġ in flax..

lyxal

14:03

@Ginger well I can confirm you didn't nuke my fridge, re-establish the redwolf hivemind or steal any limbs

so that's three less possibilities

PyGamer0

i cant figure out how to do it in k lol

Ginger

maybe this has something to do with my janky-ass cookie system

Radvylf Programs

Ginger

I'm going to try disabling cookies

if this works I will be very happy and then very sad

PyGamer0

CMC: cses.fi/problemset/task/1094

lyxal

14:07

@RadvylfPrograms I have shins you heathen

also, 11?

Does that mean there's 10 other yous out there?

dear gosh help us

Radvylf Programs

No, it's the last two digits of my student ID

lyxal

crisis averted

everyone stop panicking

PyGamer0

phew

i thought there were 11 radvylfs, ... maybe more

Radvylf Programs

@lyxal It's an extremely obscure xkcd reference :p

Ginger

okay, what is going on here

lyxal

14:11

conversation, augmented social interactions, and by the looks of it, breathing

Ginger

MY FKEY SHOULD BE VALID

Romanp

Overly late CMC answer:
Tr[1^Last[
Characters@Subsequences[#][[All, 2]]~
Cases~{Repeated@z_}]] &

Takes input as a BioSequence for some reason

PyGamer0

Feb 20 at 16:02, by PyGamer0

CMC: Sort the input ... using flax

Ginger

aaaaaa

Romanp

@Ginger Already sorted!

lyxal

14:23

@RadvylfPrograms it's almost been a year and you still haven't let us take your survey

this is so sad

Radvylf Programs

if my wifi worked I'd send you the survey

Seggan

@Neil nvm i mixed up the version, it was java 18 that strings started to use utf8 instead of utf16

PyGamer0

CMC: Guess this language: +`}1,2,3

lyxal

flax

Radvylf Programs

@UnrelatedString I read "hs/college" as "his/college", like they were someone's pronouns lol

Romanp

14:27

@PyGamer0 ASCIIPL

or one of its many variants

PyGamer0

@lyxal obviously you are right.

@Romanp if lyxal is right you are ~~left~~ wrong

Romanp

lefty club!

lyxal

@Romanp you left handed?

Romanp

yes

lyxal

heck yeah

PyGamer0

14:29

yeah

lyxal

lefty club!

PyGamer0

^

Ginger

why is it that the old, janky library works but my new shiny one doesn't

>:(

lyxal

time

old janky library has had time to be worked on

it's had time for bugs to be patched

your new library hasn't had time to be worked on

it'sn't had time for bugs to be patched

Ginger

but the code does the SAME THING

using the SAME METHODS

lyxal

14:30

obviously it doesn't

Seggan

@lyxal copilot.github.com/…

PyGamer0

~~i should have chose +`1,2,3 as my example because it works in BQN so people will get confused~~

Seggan

> When we launch a commercial product, we will make it available as broadly as possible.

Neil

@Seggan what do you mean by that?

lyxal

@Seggan that's the commerical version

Seggan

14:32

@Neil the context of the convo is what encoding to use for strings in a lang

lyxal

> If the technical preview is successful, our plan is to build a commercial version of GitHub Copilot in the future.

implying a free teir

probably for public repos

Seggan

java used to use utf16 before java 18

@lyxal /shrug

but since java 18, they now use utf8 @Neil

lyxal

@Seggan it'll probably be priced and feature-specific like how github pro used to work

and if so, they'll probably make the commercial version free for students

Seggan

apparently most websites dont agree

lyxal

because student pack go brrr

Neil

14:33

@Seggan actually it started using mixed encodings in 9

Seggan

im still in high school sniffs

lyxal

@Seggan perfect

you can get the student pack

I got it for free at high school

Seggan

well, im homeschooled lol

i got it simply by signing up

for the preview

@Neil really?

this is where i got my info: oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/…

or maybe i misunderstood it

Neil

@Seggan yeah, that's something completely different

lyxal

@Seggan doesn't matter

you can still get the student pack from github

Neil

14:35

all of the APIs that convert between strings and bytes now default to UTF-8

Seggan

ah

PyGamer0

CMC: Give me a cmc.

lyxal

@Seggan I mean in the future when they monitise it

@PyGamer0 CMC: Don't accept this cmc

PyGamer0

÷_÷

ok i shall leave

*throws magic dust and disappears*

o/

Seggan

aww switch pattern matching still in preview in java 19

lyxal

14:42

Y'all ever just simultaneously want to and not want to brush you teeth?

Because that's me right now

It's so much easier to just lie here and stay warm but I want to go to sleep and I can't without getting ready for bed first

Gosh dang winter causing laziness paradoxes

Seggan

winter??

pxeger

surely the first step in going to bed is to leave TNB

Seggan

where are you, in australia?

pxeger

@Seggan southern hemisphere

@Seggan yes

lyxal

@Seggan ninjad

I actually live in Australia

Seggan

14:43

its nice and warm here in the south of the US

lyxal

I have a stereotypical Australian accent and everything

How don't you know this?

Romanp

@Seggan Yeah, it's 71 right now here.

Seggan

because i joined cgcc in Jan 2022?

@Romanp 83 here

Romanp

Wow.

lyxal

@Seggan it's been mentioned several times since then

Romanp

14:45

Are you out farther east so it's midday?

pxeger

@Romanp newcastle, NSW

so yes

lyxal

@Seggan heck, it's even in my cg profile

pxeger

east coast

lyxal

@Romanp *midnight

It's 12am not 12pm

Seggan

@Romanp upstate south carolina

Romanp

14:46

Oh, that makes more sense. Here it's 8AM and I was wondering why it would be 80-something.

Should get that warm in a few hours though

Ginger

aHA

In the old library the sechatusr cookie gets set but in mine it doesn't

not sure how...

Seggan

@Romanp hmm, texas?

Romanp

AZ. Moving to texas for uni in the fall though.

Seggan

ah

lyxal

@Romanp that's where Radvylf lives

Y'all could catch up

Code golf irl

pxeger

14:49

texas is pretty big lol

lyxal

Don't care. They can still catch up

pxeger

not like the city where caird and I live(d)

Radvylf Programs

Yeah virtual code golf is boring, I'm glad COVID lockdowns are over so we can do the real thing

pxeger

there's no reason you can't do real code golf on your own

lyxal

@pxeger I'm not having you ruin my idealistic thinking with logic tonight thank you very much

Seggan

14:51

texas is the 2nd largest state lol

they have plenty of room

pxeger

@pxeger I have to replace my monitor every few days because of all the golf balls that hit it

Romanp

Hey, Wolfram does have an in-person coding championship and runs their tweet-a-program contest which is just [popularity-contest] with a 128-character limit.

But it's in Illinois.

lyxal

@Seggan I'm not having you ruin my thinking with logic either.

pxeger

@lyxal brush your teeth and go to bed!

lyxal

I already have!

I finally resolved the paradox but I have a few other things to do first

So y'all are stuck with me for another few minutes whether you like it or not

(/j on everything I've said in the last 10 minutes btw)

(apart from the factual stuff. That's /srs)

Okay bye now I'm going don't do stupid things while I'm gone kthxbye o/

pxeger

14:55

goodbye

Seggan

adios

Radvylf Programs

In one hour I need to leave for my AP Computer Science A test

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