The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

07:00

@Neil well yes.

That's why I posted it here.

Unrelated String

i thought the typo was from in sight

and therefore completely missed the joke

lyxal

Wait now you've got me questioning whether it's supposed to be on site or in sight

Schrödinger's sentence

You don't know which it is until you ask the author

pxeger

@PyGamer0 PAT?

allxy

@pxeger Plot twist: Whython = anime

lyxal

@pxeger Personal authentication token probably

allxy

07:07

the oracle of canvas says so so it must be true

pxeger

@allxy how would you draw a drunk snake?

allxy

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

pxeger

@PyGamer0 use SSH keys

@Neil I have, but it was faster to boot Windows and open Photoshop than to install it and remember how to use it

PyGamer0

@pxeger personal acess tokwn

Aiden Chow

07:21

does a simplified piet interpreter challenge sound interesting, or would it be too similar to other stack based challenges?

PyGamer0

@pxeger ok

Bubbler

@AidenChow Sounds fine, assuming you keep the routing part (which is the interesting part imo)

Or you could ask for semi-halting problem (given a piet code, does it contain a region that the pointer can enter and halt on?)

Aiden Chow

@Bubbler yeah i was thinking of keeping the routing part, and replace the hue and lightness change stuff with just numbers or characters which represent different instructions

PyGamer0

hello world in MSL:
https://ato.pxeger.com/run?1=dZPLbptAFIYX3fEUE9KaywzxBV-ZEKlKW8lSW0vuDgdZZIztUfAYAZZTLJ6km2yy6zv0Odqn6cEUlxR3wXDm_785Z87AfHtm8xVj32eysZeJbExM2X163iVLY_jr1Y-m_unLR2vDBd94AYoTjz2gwBMrvSldcsGC3cK_jpMF316tb6pKxMXqhbTxknUuJF9Df-EvERcJGtNyxtZehG6pdAkTLnz0bqIKEmvoMEbcbhExt1Wh0eU2Uim_FnPKMdYOMc2y04opivxkFwlpjOJZuzN0SUilMF6rjwDOQoxd-5FmUrgNVe0wBcYwQheEjccFKBIaoxQqOXa_S6W8PuQg8Yy7dkujod0C8RYFs06v7xJG92se-GrMPLFU5TdMJg2mXdjvJx8aDXZhK3dC0YJZmhdlFAIXpJZS5IWzCXyhBhqREIr3PGFrNYA60CwIzIt9pLQUqwjaZdBRrJNrlmK3DHoVt1-KgzIYVtyRYuWHkhc0oIxG7yPfe6An_wp8-HZJ3tbiTsjkeGA1jFQw9j8IF7WOJj6PGIqV2keL…

Aiden Chow

@Bubbler that could be interesting too, u can post a challenge like that

allxy

07:34

@PyGamer0 Looping?

PyGamer0

yeah stil non tc

i need to add that

and i may create a github repo for msl

allxy

Wordle 291 5/6

⬛🟩⬛⬛🟨
⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟩🟨🟨⬛
⬛🟩🟨🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

That was a tough one

PyGamer0

sad thing is it omly supports ints lol

and the stack and code size is limited

Aiden Chow

Wordle 291 5/6

⬛🟩🟨⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
⬛🟩🟨🟨⬛
🟨🟩🟨⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

PyGamer0

@allxy let me see if i can make that

Bubbler

07:38

joke CMC: solve wordle so that the resulting piet code does something interesting

4

allxy

@PyGamer0 This is why you don't use C

@Bubbler Hmm... you can only do addition and character input

PyGamer0

but python is written in C

allxy

But you could theoretically add two numbers?

@PyGamer0 Please stop programming like Arthur Whitney reborn

PyGamer0

bruh i am golfing it

and i am on a phone

@allxy and its kinda readable

allxy

@PyGamer0 Oof

Aiden Chow

08:04

@Bubbler hmmm... there doesnt seem to be a way to output anything with just green and yellow, in fact there is only add and in(char), not much you can do with that

lyxal

Wordle 291 5/6

⬛⬛🟨🟨⬛
🟩🟨⬛⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Aiden Chow

oh lol allxy basically just said what i said, didnt read

lyxal

Feeling silly for not thinking of the word sooner

Aiden Chow

Scoredle 291 5/6

12,972
⬜🟩🟨⬜⬜ 149
⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜ 22
⬜🟩🟨🟨⬜ 3
🟨🟩🟨⬜🟩 1
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

lyxal

Scoredle 291 5/6

12,972
⬛⬛🟨🟨⬛ 200
🟩🟨⬛⬛⬛ 26
🟩🟩🟨⬛⬛ 8
🟩🟩⬛🟨⬛ 4
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Aiden Chow

08:07

@Bubbler for piet challenge, how much of the routing and other piet stuff should i explain in the question body? should i just leave a link to dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html instead?

is it ok if i just copy paste from that website?

Bubbler

Well idk :P at least you can copy paste the "official spec", yeah

PyGamer0

@allxy loops i think:
https://ato.pxeger.com/run?1=pVRNb9pAED314n_Q28ZpsRfvBpMPmnqzkSLaSEitkOgNx0LOYsIKs7FsR1AQv6SXXHLrL-qv6SwG6mCqHnrxjt97M88z3t0fL2LwIMRP36Qzk5i0e2YGzy9P-Yhe_nrztlH_-u2LN5VKTsMYZXkoJigO1UO9YRxLJeKnYXSV5UP5eDK-LiOpVA-voGmYjzWQf0-iYTRCUuWow7ZvYhymqM2MY3iRKkK33Z49JYpkGC07SHJ7iokacFthNnpMbSav1IBJx8HLjK1W5bR_5F3rPEr38j517XWOtnXX6Tuqh9Iof0qV0UGZ3zy9DEjCjJEa2nOicLs-Z-Az4S7TqZCYp3Gk7DkmBpIje-7LgHPLt_DEcVgZCgCitIAmnLu4h6SBWQ_RJlvp-ukBA-3g_l_lJBvD1y0zP3GcgM818pjYeNmD7ihNAgCmoVSAGKiDFtwlfd46h2owIuieZNrExSyBLzJQG8X-6UUrIILNxjKO7EyEamSb74VJagIf8c_d21pNHHHrTlk49hfaVDAIAoBcq6i7GVqsh4aymc…

Aiden Chow

im having trouble deciding whether to include white/black codels in the challenge, i guess thats a question for sandbox :P

ophact

any help for the semantle? I got a 982 but all of its synonyms are nowhere near the word.

Aiden Chow

@ophact hmm 982, thats an interesting word

ophact

08:14

I found a few other top 1000s since posting that message

367 and 180

Aiden Chow

cant exactly see how thats related to the answer tbh

or im just blind lmao

ophact

did you solve it?

Aiden Chow

@ophact hehe... yeah... dying on the inside

I solved Semantle #67 in 331 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 11.51. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #43. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 24.22. semantle.novalis.org

ophact

331?!

Aiden Chow

^ those were my stats, definitely took a while

ophact

08:16

This will take a while...

Aiden Chow

@ophact if u get lucky it might not tbh

i just got really unlucky with the misleading top 100s

ophact

@AidenChow so I should disregard the top 1000s I have found so far right?

It does say the most similar word has a similarity index of 57

that's rather low

Aiden Chow

@ophact errr... yeah pretty much, they are kind of helpful in that they are somewhat related to the word, but they might do more harm than good if u dont have that many top 1000s

ophact

Those three are my only top 1000s

Aiden Chow

@ophact ohh, how many guesses so far

ophact

08:19

53

Aiden Chow

lmao i got my first top 1000 in around that many guesses

ophact

hmm

Aiden Chow

i didnt even solve the semantle legitimately at the end, just searched up synonyms

ophact

is it really that hard

Aiden Chow

@ophact more like i got really unlucky

there is a very straightforward path too, if u manage to get the right words

ophact

08:22

all right I got a 943, 100 and 99

feels like those might help a bit more...

Neil

shame there aren't enough unicode emoji squares to encode Piet

Aiden Chow

heres a "helpful" hint:

3 hours ago, by allxy

Hint: It's a word sometimes used before "fuck"

ophact

...

not helpful

Aiden Chow

also

3 hours ago, by allxy

It's a word used in mathematical contexts

yeah, so those were the hints i got when i was trying to solve it lmaoooo

ophact

well the 982 does sort of back that up

Aiden Chow

08:24

@ophact eh ig, yeah

New Posts

08:37

0

Q: How many Sieve of Eratosthenes hits?

Sieve of Eratosthenes is a method for finding prime numbers: take the sequence of all positive integer numbers starting from 2 then for each remaining number drop all its multiples. 2 3 x 5 x 7 x 9 x 11 x 13 x 15 x 17 x ... 2 3 _ 5 _ 7 _ x _ 11 _ 13 _ x _ 17 x ... Task Given a number \$n >= 2\$...

PyGamer0

@AidenChow absolutely shit advice

anyways

@Bubbler did you invent Bubble sort :p

allxy

Obviously! What kind of question is that?

PyGamer0

08:55

@pxeger can you show an example?

like say Fibonacci

or something more like solving AOC Day 1 Part 2 2021

Razetime

09:17

whats the bmg today

PyGamer0

09:52

\o/

bmg draft room died lol

PyGamer0

10:35

@pxeger so i added my ssh key and it doesnt work

SegFaultPlus4

10:46

@mathcat give me a second lemme just fix that with a controlled shock

@AidenChow i can think of 5 words and none of them were in thee top 1000

wish someone made flack overstow but using the Nineteenth Byte's messages

then i could see a theoretical message from me

@allxy can i overwrite people's placed pixels

allxy

Yes, but be nice

SegFaultPlus4

give me a second i have to write a script to click every pixel

but i don't know if i know enough python

allxy

no.

SegFaultPlus4

for that

@allxy no to doing that, or no to me knowing enough Python for that

allxy

Both.

SegFaultPlus4

10:58

harsh but fair

allxy

Sorry, wasn't really paying much attention. You're decent at python, but it's the wrong tool for the job here

SegFaultPlus4

i think that's a JS thing, so even if i wanted to do that (i don't) i don't know JS

I solved Semantle #67 in 20 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 6.09. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #16. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 26.32. semantle.novalis.org

i got ONE word in the top 1000

and then got it somehow

nerdlegame 77 4/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛🟪🟪⬛⬛
🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪⬛🟪
🟩🟩🟪🟩🟩🟪🟪🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Ginger

yuuy

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger juuj

allxy

nerdlegame 77 3/6

⬛⬛🟪⬛🟪🟪⬛⬛
⬛⬛🟪⬛🟪⬛🟪🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Also

mini nerdlegame 77 3/6

🟪⬛🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟪🟩🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SegFaultPlus4

11:13

‮i found literally everything with one guess, so it was pretty easy

mini nerdlegame 77 4/6

🟩⬛⬛🟪⬛⬛
🟩⬛🟩⬛🟩⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟪🟩🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
goddamn commutativity

allxy

ikr

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 i found an example: Python 3.10

Ginger

> DOG > LYXAL > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger python > DOG > LYXAL > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

user

@allxy not only that, it’d be annoying

SegFaultPlus4

11:25

@user python, or the clicking every pixel

user

Clicking every pixel

Ginger

the foka returns

this time with slightly improved mouth placement

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger what's a foka

Ginger

katlani reference

it's this: ಠ_ಠ

SegFaultPlus4

@allxy does this do something in piet

PyGamer0

11:27

@SegFaultPlus4 bruh

Ginger

I give 10m till people start extending its eyebrows

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger is there a motherfoka

4

Ginger

ಠ_ಠ

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger how would one do that

how do i handle an infinite input stream

i can't just do input() because that needs an EOF and there is no EOF

PyGamer0

11:50

@lyxal are you ready for bmg with aicmcs?

lyxal

no

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal oh look, BMG is coming

lyxal

I might do some canvas stuff

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal what is the strength of this no

lyxal

very

Ginger

11:52

bmg go

PyGamer0

bmg is officially ded?

@allxy when will the replay happenl

SegFaultPlus4

I have a question i've been making

Ginger

CanVas Rewind 2022

Sandbox Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Draw my shower curtain I got a shower curtain and it looks cool, so today you get to draw it. But how do we do this? I'm glad you asked. Part 1: the shape The image shows a blue, red, and green circle. This is a subsection of the pattern. The actual pattern of circles can be imagined by placing ...

PyGamer0

im making bubble kirby

SegFaultPlus4

11:57

@SandboxPosts here is your question for BMG

Ginger

> GINGER HOLE

what the hell

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger what

where is this from

lyxal

@Ginger I think your emoticon requires more attention

Ginger

I noticed

what did you do to it?!

SegFaultPlus4

well, BMG is here

lyxal

12:00

@Ginger nothing

I did the ginger hole

(feel free to quote out of context)

Ginger

you did what now

lyxal

did I stutter.

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal he did the ginger hole

Ginger

yes

SegFaultPlus4

i did the ginger hole too

i INVENTED the ginger hole

lyxal

12:01

@Ginger what's wrong with a hole of vegetables?

Ginger

ah yes, GINGER HOH

lyxal

*GINDER HOH

SegFaultPlus4

how do i find the most starred message

@lyxal DINGER HOO

Ginger

stahp

> LYXAL______

lyxal

long as frick

SegFaultPlus4

12:05

SEGFAULTPLUS4
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the longest P you've ever seen

lyxal

@SegFaultPlus4 it's from a site allxy made where you can place a coloured pixel on a canvas every 2.5 seconds

we're referring to what's on the page

yesterday, by allxy

Announcing canvas, a r/place clone for us to mess with: https://canvas.rto.run

also @SegFaultPlus4 when you say you can't see images here, is that because imgur (the service that hosts images on SE) is blocked or for some other reason?

I've been wondering about this for weeks now and I'm curious about why

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal yes, it's blocked

lyxal

are there any image hosts that are unblocked?

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal i know none except imgur

lyxal

how about that image?

SegFaultPlus4

12:13

nope

lyxal

dang

discord's cdn blocked too

how about that image?

SegFaultPlus4

still no

lyxal

dang it

reddit's blocked too

mathcat

hmm

SegFaultPlus4

@hyper-neutrino this disgusts me

mathcat

12:25

does that work?

Ginger

I can't even see that one

mathcat

now?

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat that works, but the image is questionable

Ginger

@mathcat now yes

mathcat

@SegFaultPlus4 Nah, IMO the sketch is awesome

SegFaultPlus4

12:31

🟩 🟪 ⬛️ Instant Nerdle solved in 1m 0s!

pro.nerdlegame.com/5924843ac86d6c1f6d806c667469e1e9/10/OCFd

here's a nerdle for you

pro.nerdlegame.com/...

and another one for you after you finish the first

PyGamer0

nerdle is a bad name

sounds like noodle tbh

SegFaultPlus4

ye, but it's fun

2nd one is easier than the first, so try than one first

PyGamer0

^ is that bubble kirby

looks uh okish to me

des54321

13:27

@AidenChow im pretty sure its on the piet website as well, but I found a link to it on the esolangs page

today i discovered that there is already a text-based version of piet, using unicode emojis for color

Adám

13:44

Announcement: New job opening at Dyalog Ltd.

3

Ginger

april fools?

Adám

Nope.

Ginger

ok

just wanted to make sure

Adám

You don't even need to know APL; it is mainly a C job.

Ginger

*laughs in doesn't know C*

python 4 lyfe

PyGamer0

13:57

tomorrow is my computer exam

so i will just solve problems from csesfi, if i can

des54321

apparently Piet++ is also a language, and features arbitrarily nested stacks and self-modifying code, which sounds like the kind of idea made up to torture computer programmers

Ginger

ohohoo

PyGamer0

14:11

CMC: Check if the number is a multiple of 4

Bgil Midol

Python: lambda x:x%4

PyGamer0

4! in k

des54321

i have a piet one working, gimme a sec to translate it into asciipiet

lqqilt
 qq tt

masterpiets says this doesnt halt, but i'm pretty sure it should

oh i found out why why it wasnt halting i inputted some codels wrong

actually that does need a not for the correct output

lqqiljn
 qq  nn

Bubbler

14:37

The editor works

PyGamer0

nice

Bgil Midol

nice

PyGamer0

@Bubbler when will you git push it

Bubbler

14:52

Done

6

But you can't download the image or run it so it's useless now

CMP: Interpreter first or export first?

Radvylf Programs

Export first

You can run it if you can export it but you can't export it if you can run it :p

Bubbler

Well, true :P

though exporting as PNG would take some research effort (everything is drawn in SVG right now because reasons)

Radvylf Programs

Just put it on a canvas and take the image as a PNG

IIRC you can draw an <svg> onto a canvas pretty easily

Not sure if you can programmatically export a PNG from a canvas easily, but most browsers let you right click them to download as PNG

> POGN

My new image format for pogchamps

> var img = canvas.toDataURL("image/png");

Okay it's pretty easy actually

Bubbler

Yeah, just found that too

Radvylf Programs

There might even be an equivalent method for SVGs, saving a step

Bubbler

15:04

The SVG doesn't give a pixel-perfect image so it'll likely confuse piet interpreters even if it can be saved directly into a raster image

so drawing on a virtual canvas is likely the way to go

Radvylf Programs

Today's wordle was hard...six guesses

First time I've been worried I won't get it

des54321

@Bubbler it feels more natural to me that maybe the buttons to increase the size of the grid should pad with white instead of black?

Bubbler

15:25

Maybe it's personal preference but I like to keep unused spaces as black rather than white

des54321

fair enough

user

@lyxal weird, i can’t see it now but i can when i long press on it

I think ddg fetches it and previews that

Ginger

15:40

@user for a hot second I read that as "I think dog fetches it"

des54321

thats how computers really work, theres a bunch of little dogs in there that just fetch what you tell them to

Ginger

well ofc, what do you think JS's fetch() does?

PyGamer0

15:56

@Bubbler nice, now i got a place to draw my pixel art :P

New Posts

16:11

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Q: Find five apple weight

Problem John bought 5 apples. All of them without the first one weight 798 g, without the second - 794 g, without the third - 813 g, without the fourth - 806 g, without the fifth - 789 g. What is the mass of all five apples? Rules The solution of the problem by enumeration Сonsider the number of...

code-golf fastest-code

New Posts

17:56

0

Q: Wordle Hardcore

If you've been online in the last year, you probably know the rules of Wordle. I was implementing a (very bad) Wordle algorithm, when I thought of another game: Task One 5-letter word from wordle's answer list is randomly selected. Your task is to guess the word. Each failed guess gives you one p...

code-challenge game

Radvylf Programs

19:02

lol...someone in my class was complaining about a gift card for a burger restaurant that had just expired, and someone else said "well maybe they'll give you an expired burger for it"

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms That's probably true. You just have to go around back to the dumpster. It's self-service. Put the card in and get a burger out.

Radvylf Programs

Well he was messing around and just accidentally ordered 40 mcnuggets to the high school so I don't think he needs to do that anymore xD

Hopefully doordash or whatever has a way to cancel it

allxy

@Bubbler fabricjs?

Radvylf Programs

Kinda a jank solution

allxy

19:18

I guess, but it works so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@PyGamer0 When Radvylf and I decide it will be done, I guess

Radvylf Programs

We have the code working for replays and time lapses and stuff, it's just going to take some time to reconstruct the initial state before we started recording

allxy

in canvas, 15 hours ago, by allxy

@RadvylfPrograms Antiantialiasing instructions: Go to https://qwre.surge.sh/t.png and run this code:

I got you the initial state from this image:

(As a 1d array of colour indices)

Unrelated String

20:12

nice

Radvylf Programs

Nice. We'll need to manually add in a few things, but that's a good starting point since we can just use the front-end with the ws disabled as a pixel art tool

Seggan

20:35

suggestions for a python build tool?

Seggan

20:46

kinda feel like gradle because im used to it already

Radvylf Programs

What's a build tool again

Seggan

scripts for dependency management, building, ci, stuff like that

Radvylf Programs

bash works pretty good ime :p

Although the most professional packagey sorta thing I've made is like...a JS library so I don't exactly have opinions on dependency management and ci that are worth listening to lel

allxy

^ lol

I try to avoid unnecessary dependencies as well

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms guess its requirements.txt the lol

Radvylf Programs

21:01

Is gradle just a general purpose thing? I thought it was Java-specific (prolly just 'cause that's the only context I've seen it used)

allxy

^

Seggan

mostly java/jvm, but yes it is general purpose

Radvylf Programs

Just came across a video making fun of vim users:

I get a lot of arguments vim users make, but I just don't get why they put so much emphasis on navigating code more efficiently. I don't navigate code, I write code, and any editor that sacrifices writing code for navigating code is doing it wrong IMO.

allxy

^

Am I a clone of radvylf?

Radvylf Programs

Everyone told you you were emanresu's sock but you're actually mine.

Radvylf Programs

22:20

Gotta love when someone in the YT comments is asking about the proper screwdriver for an electrical outlet and then some guy comes along on some tangent about his entire work history, how unionization is bad because he has to do more paperwork, etc.

Like this guy even even went off the topic of his own off-topic comment

Ginger

22:50

hi

why is OLIMAR on canvas

Unrelated String

he's whython

Ginger

why

lyxal

my person on outside setting picture survived mostly untouched

Ginger

speaking of, just restarted OLIMAR

(had to reboot my server)

why has nobody given the cat a foka yet?

Radvylf Programs

mfw vyxal is an imperial power in canvas

Unrelated String

23:01

the rival empires of vyxal and bi flag

Radvylf Programs

Little do they know their subjugation of the kingdoms of hyper lambda, hot moms, and amogus love will lead to centuries of economic setbacks and pointless violence

3

Seggan

By the power of JS scripting, that will not happen!

(not actually planning to do that)

Ginger

23:20

Vyxal, Bi Flag, Big Cat, Ginger Replay Sussy Love G'Joink. Long ago, the four nations lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Canadians attacked!

Radvylf Programs

23:36

Whoa did someone just make a rainbowing script

Seggan

today i had an idea: what if there was a language that was written in sound. the audio would have the fourier transform applied to it, and each frequency would be a stack. the amplitude at a certain spot would determine the operation on that stack

Radvylf Programs

I think there's a few based on the pitches of musical notes but not aware of any truly sound-based ones yet. Could be cool.

Ginger

hello world: *horrible screeching*

6

Neil

if it was done right, hello world would just be the sound of someone saying "hello world"

Unrelated String

23:52

@RadvylfPrograms if you're talking about the bottom left there's one spot that's missing a bright-yellow band :P

Radvylf Programs

No, there was a whole rainbow striped area by the kirby that appeared instantly

I helped construct the big rainbow striped area in the bottom left, it was done painfully manually

Unrelated String

oh huh

i never saw the kirby rainbow zone disappear in the first place so there may have been a bug on your client somehow

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