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Radvylf Programs

18:07

We should request to have our close and reopen votes be reduced to 3

Should an imag operator return 2i or 2 for 1+2i?

Or should I have one for both

Unrelated String

having both may not be a bad idea though

Radvylf Programs

Idea: A "triad modifier": a dyad that modifies the next dyad after it, so that the two form a triad. E.g., T + 1 2 3, instead of T (+ 1 2) 3, would be ((T +) 1 2 3)

And (T +) could be anything. E.g., pad start, slice, or insert

emanresu A

18:27

@RadvylfPrograms agreed

Unrelated String

that's a good idea

Radvylf Programs

Should I make a proposal on our meta?

We'd decided against it a while back but I think it was more out of a sense that it just wasn't necessary, not due to any opposition against it

DLosc

Is it necessary (or helpful)? We usually put together 5 close-votes in a pretty timely fashion, from what I've seen.

Radvylf Programs

I quite often see two or three then a mod

And sometimes things do go unnoticed for ages

It's more about the reopen votes than the close ones though

The point of closing and reopening, aside from things that should obviously be closed, is the quickly stop a question from getting answers while it's being revised.

The often 20m-1hr closing process and sometimes multiple day reopening process just don't do that very well I don't think

DLosc

I could imagine there would be fewer reopen voters than close voters, yeah. A newly posted question gets more attention than a closed, revised question.

I wonder if there's any way to advertise closed questions that may deserve reopening here in TNB, analogous to New Posts? The trouble is that you couldn't post something every time a closed question was edited because sometimes there are lots of incremental edits.

Seggan

18:42

maybe make it asymmetrical. 5 close votes, 3 reopen.

Radvylf Programs

That's not an option

Seggan

why not?

Radvylf Programs

Three vote closure is something the devs can just flip a switch for

They're not going to add a custom feature just for us

DLosc

I'm wondering, too, about the possibilities of a close/reopen war... does anybody have experience with that sort of thing? I don't, so anything I say is pure speculation.

Radvylf Programs

And three vote closure wouldn't necessarily hurt, it's just not super necessary since @NewPosts means we notice things that need closure pretty quickly

@DLosc When those do happen, it's an outlier and discussion is necessary. Three vote closure would actually make it more likely the war would be noticed, and dicussed, instead of the result being random

I've heard the phrase "cargo cult" before, never knew the origins were so interesting

Cargo cult

A cargo cult is an indigenist millenarian belief system in which adherents perform rituals which they believe will cause a more technologically advanced society to deliver goods. These cults were first described in Melanesia in the wake of contact with allied military forces during the Second World War. Isolated and pre-industrial island cultures that were lacking technology experienced soldiers and supplies arriving in large numbers, often by airdrop. The soldiers would trade with the islanders. After the war, the soldiers departed. Cargo cults arose, attempting to imitate the behaviors of the...

emanresu A

18:58

what

Radvylf Programs

is that a hi-o/ or a bye-o/

Bgil Midol

@RadvylfPrograms according to ginger, it's a "hi"

allxy

Since they've been talking, you can tell it's a "bye"

Radvylf Programs

> they

Aren't you emanresu?

pxeger

oh icwym

mathcat

19:04

@RadvylfPrograms wait a sec you're a genius

that totally fits, nerd

* looking at allxy *

user

@RadvylfPrograms rust’s compiler usually explains the error, doesn’t it?

Makes the crazy strict limitations bearable

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, but it uses rust-speak

user

@PyGamer0 try a shotgun instead

Although i guess you’re a python programmer so i guess you have chainsaws to replace your limbs instead of shotguns like scala programmers

Sandbox Posts

19:25

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Resolve references in a chat discussion code-golf string Sometimes in chat, if someone says something you agree with, you'll send a message with an ^, which points at the message above: Radvylf: Cats are far superior to JavaScript You: ^ Sometimes you'll also add some text: Radvylf: I sure do l...

Ginger Industries

@SandboxPosts THIS IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA

I wish I'd come up with this

Bgil Midol

Ginger Industries

;-;

mathcat

19:46

@SandboxPosts woah nice

Bgil Midol

Aaroneous Miller

20:04

@SandboxPosts I thought about making a userscript one time to highlight chat messages pointed to like this, similar to how messages are highlighted when you hover over a reply or mention, but I was too lazy

New Posts

Q: Count the Liberties

Background This challenge is about the game of Go. Go is a game played on a board with a square grid N x N. You don't have to know how to play the game to do this challenge, but if you are interested, google "Tromp-Taylor rules" for a minimal and precise set of rules to play a full game. Let's us...

code-golf go

pxeger

20:21

Is it possible to undo a LQP review?

Bgil Midol

20:33

I don't think so.

Adám

@SandboxPosts Add "v" and it may become TC.

pxeger

20:58

@Adám how would it have infinite memory without infinitely many messages?

Surely there's always finite state

Adám

So you're saying that no computational machine can be TC?

Radvylf Programs

No IRL computer can ever be TC, no

Ginger Industries

@Adám for a hot minute I thought you were making a vote-to-close joke

New Posts

Q: Repeat List Until Longer

The Challenge The challenge is simple: given an input list a and another list b, repeat a until it is longer than b. Call the repeated list ra. Then the following condition must hold true: len(b) < len(ra) <= len(b) + len(a). That is, a must not be repeated more than is required. Sample Python Im...

code-golf array

Radvylf Programs

Fun fact: If you ever find yourself reading RFC 2616 you should probably just go ahead and jump off a building now instead of later

Ginger Industries

21:07

@Adám another one for my esolang ideas list

2 hours later…

lyxal

22:52

@mathcat wait you didn't know?

I thought it was obvious that it was EmanresuA

Bubbler

23:21

@GingerIndustries 4. deploy Etch packages through pip

Abusing the host language's package manager is a norm /s

Radvylf Programs

23:44

5. No package manager, because every package anyone makes is automatically installed for everyone else

Easy :p

New Posts

Q: Resolve references in a chat discussion

Sometimes in chat, if someone says something you agree with, you'll send a message with an ^, which points at the message above: Radvylf: Cats are far superior to JavaScript You: ^ Sometimes you'll also add some text: Radvylf: I sure do like integers You: I mostly agree with ^ but floats are pre...

code-golf string