The Nineteenth Byte

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21:00

Still need to work on making it smoother though, and some stuff like bullet trails don't work yet

Wezl - y izl

@pxeger it's seriously many things but closer to seriously crazy than seriously serious

Ginger Industries

to give you an idea of how fucked up the screen is, it looks like a large, solid black sperm is taking up the entire left half

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

What kind of laptop was it?

Ginger Industries

*is, I'm using it right now

oh god it's getting worse

Wezl - y izl

except... there's probably more written in BF than each of those other languages so... yes I'm wrong

wizzwizz4

21:02

@GingerIndustries Make sure they don't wipe the computer when they repair it.

Actually, probably take a backup now, just in case.

Ginger Industries

I am

wizzwizz4

Good. :-)

Does anyone know any games that aren't golf where a low score is good?

Ginger Industries

I sure hope that strange smell isn't the computer's guts lighting on fire

@wizzwizz4 code golf

wizzwizz4

I'm trying to find an adjective other than “golfy” to describe something similar to golf.

Ginger Industries

code golfy

wizzwizz4

21:04

Sort of like code golf, except you don't do the final squeezing out bytes bit.

So, you might have long, clear variable names.

I'm 80% sure it'd be some kind of heresy to call that “golf”.

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redwolfprograms.com/tanks

You can't do any fighting right now, but you can drive around and enjoy the lag

uh oh

Wezl - y izl

hearts

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Two people are in the same spot

You can't move when that happens lol

Ginger Industries

yea

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Umm...just a sec lemme fix that

wizzwizz4

21:09

You can move. Just, slowly. And backwards.

Wezl - y izl

also other card games, although often the goal is to run out of cards completely, which doesn't fit as well with code golf

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani my computer's fan is speeding up as I type this

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Okay now you spawn in a random spot, just reload until you're not in a wall or another person

wizzwizz4

@taRadvylfsriksushilani I escaped, but then another tank spawned on top of me.

Wezl - y izl

this is my favorite game and I can't even access the website

Ginger Industries

21:11

my laptop is about to lift off

wizzwizz4

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Rotating the tank makes while keeping the mouse still (to the right of the tank) reveals an interesting behaviour. What's meant to happen in that case?

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Your turret can only point forward within a certain range. But if it's directly behind your tank, your turrent will point 180° to it

That's intentional, so you can choose to aim from either the front or the back

wizzwizz4

I see. That makes sense, then.

Bgil Midol

@taRadvylfsriksushilani I think it needs better images

Ginger Industries

hey this reminds me of this thing I made

wizzwizz4

21:13

@BgilMidol Air horns and Doritos®™.

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You can't change your stats yet in the UI, but you can in the code, which is why you can see my tank going fast

Ginger Industries

oh boy

>:)

wizzwizz4

Oh, it's multiplayer?

Brb griefing.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

lol

All stats can range from 0 to 100, but they must add up to 200

Ginger Industries

time to do some science

Bgil Midol

21:14

is there health?

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So if you change speed from 50 to 100, you'll need to change armor or damage or something to 0

@BgilMidol Yes, but the shooting is currently not implemented for multiplayer

Bgil Midol

im setting speed to 200

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Max is 100 for any individual stat

Also note that you have to reload for it to take effect

So you'd lose the change I think

stat_rld is reload speed, set that to 100 if you want a machine gun

Then you can hold any of space, x, or o to fire (or click and hold)

z/x/c and i/o/p work for moving the turret if you don't like aiming with your mouse

Bgil Midol

how to change?

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I'll add a way to change it in the UI

Okay, reload and you can set your stats

Remember they need to add up to 200

Bgil Midol

21:20

yay i fast

speed 100, reload 100

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Same here lol

Adám

What is reload?

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How fast you can shoot

Adám

Turret behaviour just changed. Not only does it allow turning like 170 degrees now vs, half or so before, now, when I turn the tank, instead of the turret being dragged along, it swaps to the other side instantly.

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The turret behavior is based off of your speed

To balance really slow or really fast tanks a little bit more, the slower your tank is, the wider an area you can aim at

Adám

21:27

Huh, I can move when speed=0. I thought I'd become a fixed gun.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

No, otherwise you'd be stuck at your spawn location. But you do move really slowly (it's exponential).

I've taken the multiplayer servers down for now though, since I'll need to add combat stuff, and fix the jittery appearance of the tanks

Adám

Nooo, the jittery appearance is retro and endearing!

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I might keep it then :p

It does fit with the very bare minimum vector graphics

Ginger Industries

i will figure out how to haxx this game

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

It's actually not going to be hard lol

The server's only semi-authoritative

Adám

21:31

How do I install mods? /s

Ginger Industries

I know

i'm working on it

hackerman (⌐■_■)

DLosc

@Adám Customized tank skin pack, only $19.99!

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I'm actually considering merging this with my idea for a nomic-style hacking-based game, where the central server has zero authority

Ginger Industries

@DLosc only 20 [kromer]?!

Adám

@DLosc How much is adding 10 stat points?

@taRadvylfsriksushilani What happens when I drive off the edge of the screen?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

21:33

You can still do stuff, you're just not visible

There's no barriers or anything. I don't think it's too overpowered though, since the bullet trails would make any off-screen snipers really obvious

And there's a max bullet travel distance of 1k pixels

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani when are you going to bring those servers back

DLosc

@Adám Ah, I see we're going pay-to-win here :P

Ginger Industries

why play [tanks] when you can play this?

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@GingerIndustries 10m

Ginger Industries

it crashed immidiately

Adám

21:38

@GingerIndustries How to play?

Ginger Industries

you don't really

it's just a tech demo

DLosc

Can I move? I saw urmom moving around...

Ginger Industries

use wasd

DLosc

Not working for me

Ginger Industries

is it focused

DLosc

21:40

Should be--I clicked on the center of the screen

Ginger Industries

try reloading

DLosc

Ah, okay. Now w and s work (but a and d don't seem to do anything).

I think it stopped working when a new player spawned in.

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani I have developed a new Hacking Engine for the tank game

@DLosc it is very buggy

DLosc

> Uncaught TypeError: player.position is undefined

Ginger Industries

:/

ah well

sorry

I've also got this snazzy chatroom thing

DLosc

21:44

Lol--I reloaded, did some keyboard mashing, and now it seems to be running console.log('e') in an infinite loop :P

Ginger Industries

@DLosc that's my top-of-the-line error handler

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Okay, server's back up

Bullet trails may or may not work now, didn't bother testing

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani lies

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Wait it's not >:|

Ginger Industries

see?

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21:48

Wait hang on

Ginger Industries

brb

DLosc

It's not?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

It would crash as soon as someone fired a bullet

DLosc

I'm currently shooting another tank (with 0 results apparently)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Weird, I'm not seeing any other tanks

DLosc

21:51

The other tank is rotating in place with its gun always pointing the same direction. Maybe it's an artifact of the matrix.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

That'd have been because I just took the server down and brought it back up

So it thinks the other player's holding the turn key down forever

Wait it was a client side bug

Okay, server's back up

And maybe bullet trails will wor

Nope

@GingerIndustries What hacks does it have?

Teleportation and super-op-machine-gun would probably be the first two that come to mind

And I guess superspeed and unrestricted turret

Bgil Midol

@taRadvylfsriksushilani triple turret

giant bullets

homing bullets

DLosc

22:17

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Unrestricted turret, no cooldown, 9000 damage, 9000 armor, and the ability to shoot through walls would probably do it

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22:59

Oh, no collision would be a good one

For the tank itself

DLosc

23:18

This interactive page about hexagonal grids is top-notch.

Niko

i am finally back

jk I am going now

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23:35

> This section of the [documentation] contains tutorials. A tutorial shows how to accomplish a goal that is larger than a single task. Typically a tutorial has several sections, each of which has a sequence of steps.

This tells me this will be a tool that creates problems

lyxal

@GingerIndustries I ascended the plane of mortals

3

Niko

meow

@lyxal so you are a god now

lyxal

probably

@Niko landscape.gingerindustries.repl.co

Niko

ALL PRAISE OUR GREAT GOD LYXAL

Wezl - y izl

@DLosc the entire site yes

Niko

23:41

i can’t move with ipad

looks like i am vegetative now

lyxal

probably require a keyboard

Niko

can you hop in this thingy?

lyxal

alas no

Niko

bhop rejected :(

DLosc

@Wezl-yizl When I clicked there from a link in a Best-Of nominated CGCC post, the symbol looked familiar; turns out I have this article by the same person, about generating maps using Voronoi diagrams, in my bookmarks. I go back and reread it every few years because it's so much fun.

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