The Nineteenth Byte

Fmbalbuena

00:06

@cairdcoinheringaahing what is former mod?

Redwolf Programs

Someone who used to be a moderator

Fmbalbuena

Why?

caird coinheringaahing

88

Q: A farewell to moderation

If you're new around here, chances are you might not even know who I am. I'm Alex, and I'm a (soon to be ex-) moderator on this site. At first I was a user just like you, enthusiastic about the site, then I became a moderator pro tempore, and then I was elected. It's no secret that I haven't bee...

Fmbalbuena

I mean why he become mod?

caird coinheringaahing

Because he was addicted to the site :P

Why people become mods is more or less the same thing: they like the site, and what to help contribute to it in a more substantial way

Redwolf Programs

00:17

I wonder what the quiet=true in the POST request means when you leave a room

Wait hang on...it seems like clicking "leave" does not show others that you've left

Well that ruins a lot of jokes I've made in the past

Fmbalbuena

@RedwolfPrograms wdym?

Redwolf Programs

It's complicated,

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Pretty sure it does show the leaving animation

Redwolf Programs

I'll try leaving and rejoining, tell me if you see the animation

caird coinheringaahing

Yep, saw it

Redwolf Programs

00:21

Oh huh

So I wonder what quiet=false does

Fmbalbuena

Yes

Who knows this?

Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms Interesting, it 302s

To /rooms

Whereas quiet=true does not

user

Quite true

hyper-neutrino

@wizzwizz4 to feel like you've accomplished something instead of having just wasted countless hours getting meaningless internet points on se?

oh wait i'm projecting again :P

caird coinheringaahing

00:40

in Add++, 2 mins ago, by caird coinheringaahing

> Additionally, as the "relevant challenges" portion of LOTM doesn't really get much attention, I'm offering a +500 bounty to any user who posts an Add++ themed challenge that goes on to score 10 or more

If anyone wants to take 500 of my reputation :P

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing why is the slowest gun in the east? We've not suddenly teleported across the world, so surely it's just the slowest gun in the west

Redwolf Programs

The "west" in FGITW refers to the Western US, right? So not across the world, across the country

pxeger

but when you say "the east", you normally mean, as in, the orient, not just the east coast of the US

I've never heard anywhere other than far eastern asia described as just "the east"

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger I have no idea, but I've heard that "SGITE" is the opposite of FGITW

Redwolf Programs

But no sane person would use "the west" to describe the western US in the same context as they'd use "the east" to refer to eastern asia, right?

pxeger

00:48

precisely

Redwolf Programs

Like, look at this sentence: "While the tumbleweed is native to the american west, fossil remains show that they may in fact have previously existed in the east."

pxeger

That's just an ellipsis of the word "american"

caird coinheringaahing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm going by what I've heard

Does it really matter? :P

pxeger

It matters to me, but evidently not to you, so we might as well go with my suggestion :p

DLosc

01:03

@pxeger Might be because you don't live in the U.S. See meaning 5 (and 6) on Wiktionary... although you're right that the "East Asia" meaning is the most common, even here. Maybe since the terms reflect a Eurocentric view of the world, the eastern U.S. is in some sense still part of "the West" even for those of us who live west of there. I'd usually expect to hear "on the east coast" or maybe "back east" rather than "in the East."

All of which is a bit beside the point of "Slowest Gun in the East," which is just meant to be a silly joke anyway. ;)

caird coinheringaahing

Clearly, Bostonians have a reputation for being very slow on the draw :P

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing didn't they once try to fight a war of independence using tea? :þ

DLosc

@pxeger Nah, that was just the pre-war party

Now I've got King George III in my head :D

caird coinheringaahing

That's not even close to the best song about George the Third: youtube.com/watch?v=zPtYmq5qFVA :P

pxeger

01:49

Someone seems to be going through and updating a lot of my past questions and answers

If I suddenly un-gain 80 rep to "Serial Voting Reversed" I'll be quite annoyed

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing That one's not bad either

caird coinheringaahing

@DLosc I do quite like the fact that there is a certain age group, roughly my age, of British people who immediately know the King Georges song if you bring it up :P

Legit been a conversation topic with strangers during uni socials :P

DLosc

Was that from a television show?

pxeger

yeah, Horrible Histories

caird coinheringaahing

^ :P

DLosc

01:56

Shared cultural touchstones are always fun :)

Redwolf Programs

02:12

I read "call for categories" out of the corner of my eye as "call for catgirls"...

hyper-neutrino

~~we could do with one of those too~~

caird coinheringaahing

Best of CGCC 2021: Catgirl edition

Redwolf Programs

We should do a best-of category for best pfp during catgirl week

DLosc

I'm down for that :3

caird coinheringaahing

OwO

DLosc

02:20

See, to me that just looks like a horrifying owl with two beaks

Redwolf Programs

Can we feature the call for categories?

caird coinheringaahing

Raise a flag?

Redwolf Programs

Or I could probably just ping @hyper-neutrino

hyper-neutrino

yes

but if you raise a flag you get a free helpful flag

caird coinheringaahing

But flags get you closer to a shiny silver badge :P

Redwolf Programs

02:28

Hmm, good point

caird coinheringaahing

Imagine not having the Deputy badge on Meta :P

Redwolf Programs

Red flags best-of as spam

caird coinheringaahing

That'd only be the 6th spam flag raised on meta :P

Maybe. Not sure if SEDE only records helpful spam flags or all

hyper-neutrino

redwolf can i post your flag message here

Redwolf Programs

Sure

hyper-neutrino

02:30

caird coinheringaahing

Do the 11 pls :3

hyper-neutrino

11/10

caird coinheringaahing

03:06

Fun fact: New Posts technically qualifies for the 2021 Rookie of the Year - Answers category

Wezl - a cautionary tale

03:42

so do the negative-scoring answers, right?

Razetime

03:58

@DLosc remote_theme is perfectly fine, if i could see the error i might be able to help

DLosc

04:20

@Razetime Here's the error message (trying to build from this revision, if I'm reading it right)

lyxal

hey so uh jelly now has an elo over 2k

Razetime

huh maybe a gemfile problem

lyxal

probably the first language to ever do so

DLosc

@lyxal Yeah, well, Hikaru has an Elo over 2.8k, so get rekt Jelly :P

Redwolf Programs

Speaking of Elo, I've been doing some more work on my ranking system recently

lyxal

04:25

@DLosc Hikaru, 9 bytes: checkmate

DLosc

@lyxal -5 bytes: mate

Redwolf Programs

I'm pretty excited for it, one of its most important features is that it has a hierarchy of languages, so Python's ranking would be based on both Python 2 and Python 3 answers, and Python 3's score would include Python 3.8, Python 3.10, etc.

lyxal

> Python's ranking would be based

I'm such a zoomer

Redwolf Programs

Communism is based

lyxal

@lyxal does that mean that some language ratings would be cringe?

Redwolf Programs

04:27

Yes, Java's are is very cringe

lyxal

Java fell off + ratio + mad cuz bad + the hood uses <any other 3rd gen golflang> + cringe + verbose + L

PyGamer0

what the heck is the based joke?

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms ... on the writings of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, among others

Redwolf Programs

Indeed :p

DLosc

@PyGamer0 IDK, so I just misinterpret it to make my own joke

lyxal

04:31

@PyGamer0 urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=based

Redwolf Programs

(Dw I'm not a communist, it's from a video where someone cut off a PragerU video so it just said "communism is based")

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms ytp truly at its finest

PyGamer0

based is opposite of cringe

i never really understood the meaning of cringe

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms Communism is ba se d

Razetime

@DLosc hikaru had 3300 online, which is a more apt comparison

DLosc

04:40

@lyxal I'm rather partial to this one

@Razetime Then get double rekt, Jelly

lyxal

@DLosc my list of ytpers I enjoy include cs188, dathings, ytpewp and occasionally some of the Michael rosen ytpers

DLosc

I like AlpacaHawk (who is, sadly, now retired) because they don't rely on cheap "lol, I made him say a bad word" gags--and probably because I've seen a lot of the movies they use. Who could forget Obi-Wan's immortal words to Anakin: "My allegiance is the pub... and to your MUM"

lyxal

Yeah, I'm not exactly keen on overused jokes like suus jokes or simple mirrored speech repeated over and over

pxeger

05:08

Not keen on overused jokes? Who are you and what have you done with the real lyxal‽

Razetime

@lyxal when the

pxeger

@lyxal how are you defining 3rd-gen?

lyxal

@pxeger it's more that it disrupts the flow of the ytp

@pxeger things like husk, 05ab1e, vyxal, jelly etc with full SBCS

pxeger

what's 2nd-gen then?

Razetime

cjam, pyth, so on

lyxal

05:12

1st gen would be the likes of golfscript

Razetime

i'd say golfscript would be technically 2nd gen as well

lyxal

So then what's first gen?

Razetime

1st gen would be stuff like shortc or other stuff used to make existing langs shorter

basically dsls built on top of a familiar language

lyxal

@pxeger some people will just insert the mirrored speech effect into sentence mixing and it feels disjointed/out of place

pxeger

05:51

Any feedback?

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms What's wrong with being a communist?

Redwolf Programs

Well, nothing in theory

pxeger

no politics please

caird coinheringaahing

The trick for communism is to have no CIA sabotage ;)

@pxeger But without politics, we have to find something else to start a controversial conversation about, and that's so much effort :P

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, they're all so overdone (flags, pineapple on pizza, cats vs. dogs), but there's always some new political thing to discuss

DLosc

06:00

> communism

> new

Redwolf Programs

I mean I guess it's new in a sense

pxeger

why don't we have an argument about what to have an argument about?

caird coinheringaahing

Sea shanties, yay or nay? Present your argument :P

Redwolf Programs

@pxeger Sounds a bit too meta

pxeger

well we'll probably be arrested under the Silly Sketch Act

(dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqn9)

3

PyGamer0

06:03

idea: 3d language (theres 2d and 1d)

pxeger

I just got Mortarboard on meta

how on earth can you repcap on meta

DLosc

@pxeger I think that's a silly thing to have an argument about ;)

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger If you get 20 upvotes in a day

pxeger

but you don't get rep on meta

so you can't get 200 rep on meta

caird coinheringaahing

But you still get the badge, along with Epic and Legendary

pxeger

06:07

so you can't Earn at least 200 reputation (the daily maximum) in a single day.

the badge description should be changed

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms I just started reading Gödel, Escher, Bach, and so I am contractually obligated to mention the appropriate XKCD

caird coinheringaahing

I'd suggest bringing it up on MSE, but I'm sure there's like 30 duplicates by other pedants complaining about the badge description

lyxal

38

Q: Should I really have been awarded mortarboard on a Per-site meta?

The Ask Ubuntu Town hall digest caused me to win the Mortarboard badge, yey! But wait. [Mortarboard] Hit the daily reputation cap for the first time Per-site metas don't have any reputation... I am confused :-) I know why I got the badge. Should I have? Let me rephrase. Is this behavior ...

bug status-bydesign per-site-meta daily-reputation-badges

lyxal

06:40

can't believe I haven't had a starred message all year

5

this is so sad

U12-Forward

@lyxal You won't say that this year now :)

lyxal

As planned.

New Posts

07:15

0

Q: Make every other vowel uppercase

Given a lower case string. Ex: s = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' The goal is to make every other vowel uppercase. Desired output here: abcdEfghijklmnOpqrstuvwxyz As you can see, from aeiou, e and o get uppercased. For aeiou, the desired output is: aEiOu There are only lowercase characters in th...

code-golf string

hyper-neutrino

13 feels too long for this for jelly

PyGamer0

07:35

turns out flax has a bunch of bugs

flax: Ooh so negative one added to one is two!

in flax, 48 mins ago, by PyGamer0

i want to switch my OS

U12-Forward

@lyxal You did

Razetime

@pxeger not really surprising that a "general discussion" place gets political discussion every now and then

U12-Forward

the Balbuena one

Razetime

i think lyxal was joking about 2022

lyxal

@U12-Forward that was last year

U12-Forward

07:47

Ahaha wait yeah

hyper-neutrino

08:18

@pxeger I'm not exactly understanding how your golf on my jelly program to the vowel altercase challenge works

PyGamer0

08:29

you know, i was sitting on the sofa for an year

Razetime

i like how jelly is 6 years old and still so difficult to understand

PyGamer0

i like how humanity is so old, but people are still hard to understand :P

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino oh ok never mind I'm stupid

How do I access my flag history?

ah got it: codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/flag-summary/…

New Posts

08:57

0

Q: Identify basic building blocks for new natural and programming language

(Based on Invent new programming language and write Hello world in it, but re-phrased to gain more focus on answers). There exists variety of different programming languages, also variety of natural languages. If we could create new programming language, which in a turn would possess structure of...

natural-language language-design golfing-language

PyGamer0

@NewPosts what is this question trying to ask?

pxeger

you don't even need to know, just VTC because no objective scoring criterion

also off-topic and opinion-based

pxeger

10:00

TIL @TheFifthMarshal was @ppperry

TI also L that you can find the chat profile of a user from their main profile if you know which account they have linked to chat and they've sent at least one message, using search

lyxal

10:13

Yes

That's the beauty of SE chat

And how I managed to track which account 2x-1 was using after each deletion

hyper-neutrino

10:32

oh yeah i randomly went to my activity tab and thought something broke until i remembered i was doing science the other day

lyxal

lol

PyGamer0

cursed time

also turns out flax is real good at math

in flax, 35 secs ago, by PyGamer0

caird coinheringaahing

Anti-commutative addition? Fun :P

PyGamer0

10:48

should have opted for regex parsing :P

(?:(?:(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)?ȷ(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)?|(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+))?ı(?:(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)?ȷ(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)?|(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+))?|(?:(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)?ȷ(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)?|(?:0|-(?![1-9.])|-?\d*\.\d*|-?\d+)))

^ very fun regex

hyper-neutrino

beautiful

Adám

Valid Jelly numbers?

lyxal

@PyGamer0 not the problem

it's adding the second number to itself

PyGamer0

lmao

Sandbox Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Identify basic building blocks for new natural and programming language (Based on Invent new programming language and write Hello world in it, but re-phrased to gain more focus on answers). There exists variety of different programming languages, also variety of natural languages. If we could cre...

New Posts

11:11

0

Q: How would I display a word that apperas exactly n times in array

I need help with my bash script, I want to count how many times each word appears and display only the ones that appear n times. For example i have a file.txt: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur, accusamus adipisicing accusamus elit. Vel eaque lo lo accusamus fugiat eveniet, odit delectus ...

bash

lyxal

11:22

@cairdcoinheringaahing it's the joys of loop variables in lambdas

docs.python.org/3/faq/programming.html#id10

that's why

lyxal

12:16

gotta love all those sites which just scrape code golf answers

riverinvertebratelarvae.co.uk/codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/…

teknotopnews.com/otomotif-https-codegolf.stackexchange.com/…

in other news, it's been confirmed that the duckduckgo desktop app won't be just another chromium fork

> Instead of forking Chromium or anything else, we’re building our desktop app around the OS-provided rendering engines (like on mobile), allowing us to strip away a lot of the unnecessary cruft and clutter that’s accumulated over the years in major browsers.

source

PyGamer0

@lyxal £_*

lyxal

12:41

ighto then i'mma gon head off and sleep

o/

PyGamer0

o/

wizzwizz4

13:50

@hyper-neutrino How did you even manage that?

New Posts

14:19

0

Q: Matching fuzzies

Introduction Congratulations! You've been selected to do research a a newly discovered animal called a fuzzy, a docile, simple creature that strongly resembles a cotton ball. Fuzzies love to be near other fuzzies, but not all fuzzies want to be near each other. There are 6 types of fuzzies, 1a, 1...

code-golf combinatorics

caird coinheringaahing

@wizzwizz4 Mods can suspend themselves

wizzwizz4

@cairdcoinheringaahing Huh. I thought that wasn't the case, but that's only on chat.

Adám

14:38

OK, now I want to slap myself. I just tried cleaning something off my screen, then worrying that it was damaged… only to realise it was the tip of my mouse pointer sticking up from the bottom edge of the screen.

Wolgwang

🤣

user

@lyxal There are so many that do the same for SO :(

Feels like it should be illegal

PyGamer0

14:57

@Adám lol

@user yeah

PyGamer0

15:46

now i really want APL to have FCF and separate glyphs for reduce and filter ...

and reverse composition and under

and some other things

Adám

Sounds like BQN…

PyGamer0

but i dont want some things from BQN

so i want a mix of Dyalog APL and BQN

CMC: (i really dont know what to call this) Ex: [1,2,3,4] → [[1,2],[2,3],[3,4]]

FCMC: Reverse each after performing ^, Ex: [1,2,3,4] → [[2,1],[3,2],[4,3]]

caird coinheringaahing

16:11

@PyGamer0 Overlapping pairs, neighbours, overlapping slices of 2

Jelly, 2 bytes: ṡ2

caird coinheringaahing

16:28

@PyGamer0 Jelly, 2 bytes UƝ

hyper-neutrino

oh i forgot that builtin exists

ṭƝ would work as well

Adám

@PyGamer0 APL: 2,/⊢

@PyGamer0 APL: ¯2,/⊢

Adám

17:39

The people designing CSS don't golf enough. Why is there no size attribute that combines height and width‽

Redwolf Programs

18:02

Maybe a box attribute that combines box-sizing with width and height?

That makes it similar to font and border, where there's more than just two properties that you're setting at once

(Although box might actually already be used, idk)

Adám

Actually, they could combine min- and max- of those: size: a/b/c d/e/f

… now that / is an official CSS separator (!)

Redwolf Programs

@Adám I think it's there since it's used in things like min-aspect-ratio in media queries

And it's not possible to confuse it with stuff like division since that would always be used in calc()

@RedwolfPrograms Wait no it isn't

It's because of grid

user

20:35

@PyGamer0 Scala calls it sliding (e.g. List(1, 2, 3, 4).sliding(2) = List(1, 2, 3, 4).sliding(2, 1) = [[1,2],[2,3],[3,4]])

@PyGamer0 Scala: _ sliding 2 map(_.reverse)

Fmbalbuena

Dumb question

user

You know what golfing language means. Why ask a question about it? If you're thinking of self-answering it, that's great and all, but a simple Google search would help anyone looking for its meaning

Fmbalbuena

@user ok

Fmbalbuena

20:56

CMC: print "rues" if the input/argument is "Fmbalbuena", else print "user"

Redwolf Programs

x=>x=="Fmbalbuena"?"rues":"user" is likely the golfiest possible in most languages

caird coinheringaahing

21:17

It could be golfier if it was resu instead of rues

Adám

Or ruse

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Like lambda x:"resu"[::1-2*(x=="Fmbalbuena")]?

Adám

⌽⍣(⍞≡'Fmbalbuena')⊢'resu'

caird coinheringaahing

21:33

For ruse, Jelly, 19 bytes: ⁻“Fmbalbuena”“¡rẓ»ṙ

hyper-neutrino

21:54

@user unfortunately because of operator precedence you can't use -1 ** because you'd need (-1) ** :(

Fmbalbuena

22:16

@cairdcoinheringaahing why?

must be rues, please!

@user @cairdcoinheringaahing @Adám ^

caird coinheringaahing

rues doesn't really have an easy manipulation from user

ruse is a rotation by 1, resu is reversed

Fmbalbuena

ok, TIO link?

Adám

@Fmbalbuena {'Fmbalbuena'≡⍵:'rues'⋄'user'}

Fmbalbuena

{'Fmbalbuena'=⍵:'rues'⋄'user'} is even more golfed if the encoding is UTF-8

caird coinheringaahing

Jelly, 24 bytes: “rues”“¡Ṁ/»⁼?“Fmbalbuena

@Fmbalbuena I dont think that works

Fmbalbuena

22:19

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes this works

caird coinheringaahing

IIRC, = is elementwise comparison, ≡ is absolute comparison

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing ignore this

caird coinheringaahing

(feel free to tell me I'm wrong @Adám)

Fmbalbuena

wait, i forgot

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing But you're right.

Fmbalbuena

22:20

who?

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám See, my APL's improving :P

user

caird's given you a free pass to tell them they're wrong anytime. Don't waste this, Adám

:P

Fmbalbuena

'abc'='bac' gives 0 0 1

@Adám ^ is that correct?

Adám

Yes.

Fmbalbuena

oh, i remember 'abc'≡'a' 'b' 'c' gives 1

@cairdcoinheringaahing why?

”Ṗ¤
Ç)Y

caird coinheringaahing

22:23

Because its a full program, and the footer means I can run it over multiple inputs to demonstrate

Fmbalbuena

yeah, but why?

caird coinheringaahing

Full programs can omit the last ” in strings (Try it online!). The string has a trailing newline at the end in the test harness, which Ṗ¤ removes, then Ç)Y runs it over each input

pxeger

That's a chonky explanation

user

I love how so many of the collective articles have been downvoted to hell

Nice walrus abuse

Fmbalbuena

@Fmbalbuena Try it online!

pxeger

22:32

Wanna know why that explanation is not even finished?

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing correct?

@pxeger yes

@cairdcoinheringaahing ok

pxeger

I myself don't really understand why a^c|... works

user

You're currently on the run from PETA for walrus abuse? :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Fmbalbuena It's your CMC, the code doesn't error, so looks like it

user

@pxeger How'd you find it?

pxeger

22:34

I had &~ which makes logical sense and thought "I wonder what effect | has"

Answer: the correct one, but 1 byte shorter

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Bitwise magic

user

So a&~b == a|b? Interesting

pxeger

Not in the general case

And I don't think that's even true here, because | has looser precedence than ^

user

:thonk:

pxeger

Oh I've worked it out now

richardec

22:41

Hey @caird, noticed that you've got a rare hat...

caird coinheringaahing

Which one?

richardec

E-pic

caird coinheringaahing

Oh yeah. No idea how

richardec

I and some others have been trying to determine how to get that hat in another room

caird coinheringaahing

in Winter Bash 2021, 6 hours ago, by caird coinheringaahing

I'm pretty sure I got E-pic from this question

No idea what specifically about that question, but I posted that, browsed the site for a bit, went to bed and woke up with E-pic

richardec

22:43

Okay, thank you, that's actually helpful! :)

user

Here's an article that's mainly about APL, but it also talks a little about shortening code

Adám

> Dyalog, a language similar to APL

> APL defines the operator ↓ as “drop the first element in the array”.

Uh, no it doesn't.

user

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ These articles always get a few things wrong

caird coinheringaahing

Is ↓ even an "operator" in APL lingo?

user

Those two are close enough, anyway :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nope, it's a function ⍨

Adám

22:55

@cairdcoinheringaahing Not today.

user

1↓foo does drop the first element iirc

Adám

@user ⍨ is an operator

user

@Adám Oh, did it mean something else before?

Adám

@user Yes, but the WIP APL derivative KAP actually has ↓foo mean drop the first element.

caird coinheringaahing

> Assuming that we like the idea of APL

user

22:56

@Adám Hmm, perhaps the author got confused because of that?

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing I like the idea, I'm just sad that APL was never implemented, and only stayed an idea :P

Adám

@user In the early days, the words operator and function were used interchangeably. This was before operators were recognised as a syntactic class (or two) rather than special syntax.

user

Oh, interesting

richardec

@caird do you use any uncommon browser? (if you don't mind my asking :)

user

So how were ¨ and friends implemented if they were just functions?

caird coinheringaahing

22:58

@richardec I use a pretty obscure one called Chrome, you might have heard of it :P

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user

Or could any function take another function (or two) and return another function?

Adám

@user They were not functions. Each one was special syntax.

caird coinheringaahing

I do also use the mobile app and Safari to see the mobile site

user

@Adám No user defined operators, then? :(

Adám

That's why all the old 1st-gen operators have oddities.

@user No, and no use of user-defined functions as operands either.

user

23:00

⍨

Adám

Not that either.

user

lol

I'm so glad that the similar language Dyalog was created, then :P

richardec

@cairdcoinheringaahing hah, okay, thank you, never heard of it till now :D

lyxal

@richardec I'm not caird but some might classify my browser usage as obscure: Duckduckgo for mobile, Vivaldi for desktop and occasionally a little bit of Tor on mobile

Adám

The only "operators" were Ⓞ/ and Ⓞ\ and Ⓞ[ax] and Ⓞ.Ⓞ and ∘.Ⓞ where Ⓞ is a scalar function.

user

23:02

@lyxal What you hiding, lyxal? Why do you need DDG and Tor? Conspiracies against the government? :P

lyxal

@user worse - I use it to access vyxapedia

user

Oh, is it because Vyxapedia sporadically transforms into a weeb site? :P

lyxal

@user alas yes

Fmbalbuena

is this real?

@Adám ^

Adám

@Fmbalbuena Yes, that's my colleague Vince, who is usually the one to answer the phone.

user

23:05

The lyxalitis has progressed too far

lyxal

23:50

because my twitch account is quite literally called person-who-likes-E

don't ask why

it is what it is

caird coinheringaahing

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