The Nineteenth Byte

Adám

00:00

I'd say '19.

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, typo

The spike at the start of 2021 looks promising, maybe we can manage to do another one of those in 2022

Adám

What happened in the beginning of '14?

caird coinheringaahing

Code trolling

That spike is on Dec 28, 2013, the day the first code trolling question was posted

Redwolf Programs

Let's start up some other enormously popular but unhealthy challenge type to bring more attention to us :p

New Posts

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Q: AoCG2021 Day 7: Bathroom security goes wild

Part of Advent of Code Golf 2021 event. See the linked meta post for details. The story continues from AoC2016 Day 2, Part 2. You finally figure out the bathroom code (on the weird diamond-shaped keypad) and open the bathroom door. And then you see another door behind it, with yet another keypad...

Redwolf Programs

00:02

Um...

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Unfortunately, Monica being fired wasn't out of the blue. SE had been declining in quality for the more dedicated users for a while before that, and our userbase was kinda stagnating. Over 12k users simply stopped visiting the site in 2017

rues

@RedwolfPrograms Or we could be uncreative about it and bring back code trolling :)

Adám

Maybe we could have April 1 as one day a year where code trolling is permitted.

Redwolf Programs

Seems like 2014 and 2017 might've been reverse-bubbles of sorts, where a whole bunch of users start joining, in amounts that the site can't sustain, then they slowly fall off

Adám

Compare to Judaism.SE where ridiculous/funny/absurd/impossible questions are allowed for one month a year.

caird coinheringaahing

00:05

@RedwolfPrograms It definitely seemed as tho a lot of users joined during the code trolling and pop con era, but then slowly left once they realised those challenges were no longer welcome here

During 2016, we had some of the highest voted (and activity) questions posted, chat started to properly develop a culture of its own (the memes page for example), and we'd just graduated, so everyone was feeling heard by SE

@Adám Tbh, I wouldn't be opposed to this

The biggest issue with code trolling was that so many of the questions were just lazy, vague "write some code that looks like it has something to do with X". If we have a set date for them, we can prep them in advance, and make sure they're actually fun

AncientSwordRage

Box-drawing character

Box-drawing characters, also known as line-drawing characters, are a form of semigraphics widely used in text user interfaces to draw various geometric frames and boxes. Box-drawing characters typically only work well with monospaced fonts. In graphical user interfaces, these characters are much less useful as it is more simple and appropriate to draw lines and rectangles directly with graphical APIs. However, they are still useful for command-line interfaces and plaintext comments within source code. Used along with box-drawing characters are block elements, shade characters, and terminal graphic...

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Hitomezashi Stitch Patterns - Numberphile

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Would make a nice challenge?

caird coinheringaahing

Do I sense a challenge idea? :P

Bubbler

If it has a clear algorithm to generate that, sure

caird coinheringaahing

One potential concern that all challenges with box-drawing challenges have is that they're unicode characters, which not every language likes

AncientSwordRage

@Bubbler it does

@cairdcoinheringaahing go ahead

Adám

00:12

@cairdcoinheringaahing APL…

hyper-neutrino

yeah. "you can count these as 1 byte" is a good mitigation but it doesn't work for many languages like jelly where it just trashes anything not in its codepage :/

rues

ASCII substitution can be allowed, though, right? It's not pretty but it's something

AncientSwordRage

I still have an unfinished sandpit answer I owe the stack 😬

hyper-neutrino

true; you could just allow any <x> unique characters in its place, and just deal with needing to put the output through a substitution to make it look readable

caird coinheringaahing

@AncientSwordRage You're the one who suggested it, you definitely have first dibs if you want to :)

AncientSwordRage

00:18

@cairdcoinheringaahing by the power invested in me by the chat, I hearby officially relinquish my dibs on this idea

Sandbox Posts

01:07

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

This is a challenge in C++ language. The event scheduler is a recurrent theme in event-driven architectures: something triggers an event that needs to be checked in the future one or more times. This can be summarized in the following interface: using Time = std::uint64_t; ///! nanos since epoch ...

rues

01:22

Mmm, I love having to juggle two GitHub accounts on the same laptop

Redwolf Programs

Why don't you get two laptops and juggle those

caird coinheringaahing

Laptops weigh more than GitHub accounts

Redwolf Programs

But it's easier to juggle real objects

And if you just try to juggle the account's session cookies, they crumble and make a mess

rues

git config is the real problem

Every time I clone a repository with the other account that I'm not signed into globally, I have to do git config --local user.name cgccuser

caird coinheringaahing

This is why I don't use git :P

Why use version control software, when you can just not? :P

rues

01:28

Touche

Redwolf Programs

Solution: Put two motherboards in the same laptop, with all the stuff they need, so you basically have two distinct computers in one machine

rues

Mmm, maybe I should put everything in Google Drive folders from now on, that's basically what git does anyway, right? :P

Redwolf Programs

@rues Stop being literally me :p

rues

I'm sorry, I just have Impostor Syndrome :P

lyxal

@rues use two browsers. one for your non-cg account and one for cgcc-user

@rues also that's a bit sussy

rues

01:30

@lyxal No, these problems are local

I'm signed in to my non-cg account globally on my laptop (I did git config --global user.name otherusername, essentially), and now I need to manually change the credentials for each CGCC repository I clone :(

caird coinheringaahing

For the first time in like, 3 months, I feel like I have no work to do for my course. It feels weird, especially cause I have exams in a month :/

rues

I'm already using two different Vivaldi profiles (and before that, 2 Firefox containers)

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nice, more time to spend on AoC :)

caird coinheringaahing

Granted, I need to catch up a bit on Probability, but everything else feels up to date :?

@rues I'm not doing AoC :P

Despite being a room owner of the AoC room :P

rues

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well, you won't know the odds of that being true until you catch up on Probability :P

caird coinheringaahing

The odds on everything being up to date isn't a continuous random variable, which is what I need to catch up on :P

hyper-neutrino

01:37

@cairdcoinheringaahing i can remove you if you want (:p)

caird coinheringaahing

I can remove myself if I want :P

hyper-neutrino

i just added all the TNB ROs to it cuz it's meant to be to keep AoC out of TNB so it's an "extension" of it. but like, only half of the ROs actually go there

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh right, i forgor you could do that lol

caird coinheringaahing

If I can ever be bothered to do so, I will :P

Adám

@hyper-neutrino Thanks for the tip.

hyper-neutrino

lol, you can thank caird for remembering that :P i forgot that that was a thing you could do

part of me wants to say that's kinda weird but it makes sense, really

Adám

01:42

Strangely, I don't remember getting a notification about having become a RO there.

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, you don't

I only noticed cause I was looking at my list of rooms and saw the AoC room under the "Rooms you own" list

Adám

So people can just go about making me RO nilly-willy‽

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, basically

rues

It's hardly a bad thing

lyxal

yep

I made redwolf RO of vyxal chat once

and redwolf never knew

rues

01:43

Why would you do that?!

caird coinheringaahing

It has no effect on you, unless you want to use the tools though

rues

Redwolf could've burned down the entire Vyxal room! :P

Thomas Ward

walks in with a diamond

Adám

@rues I might become RO of a room I object to be associated with (e.g. AoC).

lyxal

@rues it was during the username swap

rues

01:44

What's wrong with AoC?

Adám

The A.

Thomas Ward

makes @Adám RO of the CGCC trashcan

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Then you can un-RO yourself as soon as you notice. Keep an eye on your rooms tho

@ThomasWard Adam is an RO of the Bakery :P

Thomas Ward

heheh

rues

@Adám You want it to be lowercase? :P

Adám

01:45

Advent

Advent is a season of the liturgical year observed in most Christian denominations as a time of expectant waiting and preparation for both the celebration of the Nativity of Christ at Christmas and the return of Christ at the Second Coming. Advent is the beginning of the liturgical year in Western Christianity, and is part of the wider Christmas and holiday season. The term "Advent" is also used in Eastern Orthodoxy for the 40-day Nativity Fast, which has practices different from those in the West.The name was adopted from Latin adventus "coming; arrival", translating Greek parousia. In the New...

caird coinheringaahing

@rues (in case you aren't joking, advent is a Christian tradition)

rues

I am indeed not joking (:P)

@Adám I don't see what's wrong with that but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Adám

@rues judaism.stackexchange.com/users/3073/ad%c3%a1m?tab=profile

Thomas Ward

borrows everyone's computer to compute the answer to all things, for reasons

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám I would suggest taking a semi regular look at the rooms you own, if that's a concern, and un-ROing yourself if anything pops up. Also, while anyone can be made an RO of a room, doing so inappropriately (e.g. in an effort to falsely suggest association/approval) is a violation of SE's "Be Nice" policy

If it does happen, letting the person who RO'ed you know that you aren't ok with it is the best course of action

rues

01:48

@Adám I can see that lol, but AoC isn't a Christian event, it's just for people to have fun

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yeah, now I know to do that.

rues

@cairdcoinheringaahing Is there a feature request on meta to let people know when they're ROed?

hyper-neutrino

to be fair, I should've asked before adding any ROs

and honestly, I didn't really need to in the first place

rues

Anyway, o/ have to eat now

Thomas Ward

@hyper-neutrino #AllGloryToTheDiamonds ?

hyper-neutrino

01:49

unlike the trash can everyone has write access so the ROs here can move anything they need into it

@ThomasWard well I was gonna say there's no need because we might need to move stuff in but not really out, but yes, #AllGloryToTheDiamonds

Adám

@ThomasWard You can compute that in APL with the straightforward formula ⍎⊖⍕⊃⊂|⌊-*+○⌈×÷!⌽⍉⌹~⍴⍋⍒,⍟?⍳0 Try it!

caird coinheringaahing

@rues Not that I'm aware of

Adám

Anyone wants to do that, or shall I post?

caird coinheringaahing

Feel free

Thomas Ward

@Adám would you like some coffee to check your grammar?

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"I shall I post?"

wags finger

Adám

01:52

I suppose it'd be given highest priority since it is about inclusivity…

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Interestingly, Shog considers self-un-RO to be one of the most overlooked abilities of being an RO. Which makes a lot of sense thinking about it - understanding that you no longer need to have RO powers is a solid bit of self-reflection

lyxal

@ThomasWard it's more customary here to wait until the 2 minute edit grace period expires for more lols

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám OTOH, it's a chat feature request, so it also gets lowest priority.... :/

Thomas Ward

@lyxal shrugs then they'll just ask us to change it for them :p

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, that does make sense. although in this case it is just a matter of me not thinking things through before hand :P so apologies @Adám, BTW

@ThomasWard yes but you can just say no :P

lyxal

01:53

@ThomasWard no one ever does that ;p

hyper-neutrino

also ^ people only really ask me to edit things if they want redaction (at least in my memory)

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Uh oh, I might break ~~the internet~~ SE.

lyxal

source: the many times I've done that

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Just to let you know, I searched posts tagged chat and feature-request with the terms "room" or "owner", and didn't find anything about notifying users when they become ROs

Adám

Right. Thanks.

caird coinheringaahing

01:56

@hyper-neutrino Can you edit this to say "Absolutely Adám, you can definitely go ahead and post that" :P

Adám

Huh?

caird coinheringaahing

I want to ask HN to edit something that isn't a retraction, and it still fits with the conversation :P

Adám

But why? Doesn't it mean exactly the same?

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, but HN said he doesn't remember doing a non-redaction edit, and I like messing with HN's memory :P

lyxal

Essentially, it's all about doing a little trolling

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

02:05

@cairdcoinheringaahing gaslight gatekeep girlboss?

caird coinheringaahing

Exactly! My girlbossing is on point, and I'm practicing my gatekeeping, but my gaslighting is awful, and I'm using HN to get better :P

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

slay gnc queen 🙏

Adám

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Q: Notification or confirmation on being made a chat room owner

Stack Exchanges should be inclusive. Owning a chat room implies association with that room. A user might object to such association if it conflicts with how they see themselves. This recently happened to me. Luckily, one can single-handedly remove one's own room owner status. Whenever one is made...

feature-request chat notifications room-owner inclusion-project

caird coinheringaahing

02:22

ಠ_ಠ It's 2am, and I just realised that the streaming service I use just added all the Harry Potter movies, which I've been craving to watch for months now, so I'm going to be so sleep deprived for the next couple of days

Adám

2am!!! I have work tomorrow. What am I doing up‽

tjjfvi

Anyone want to try their hand at violating conservation of ~~energy~~ characters?

hyper-neutrino

community autoflagged you for the duplicate answer xD

tjjfvi

lol

To be fair, it was the exact same text

Though I did delete the other answer first, so

hyper-neutrino

it does make sense, yeah. anyway, one of the few times i marked a community flag as helpful ngl

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

02:34

@tjjfvi can I test your answer in my firefox console or do i need to use like node or smth

(not a big JS user so i'm unfamiliar with what counts as what versions of js)

Redwolf Programs

That's a browser JS answer

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

neato

Redwolf Programs

The alert will always indicate a browser answer

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

oh, good point. forgot that

Redwolf Programs

Typically Node.js-only answers will indicate that in the header. For golfing, the only thing Node.js has that browser don't is Buffer

"Noises from attic - Should I be concerned?"...probably this user's last post to hit HNQs

tjjfvi

02:45

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Yep

Redwolf Programs

Okay I think I found a new favorite tag on diy.se

Weird sounds people hear

I'm going to propose an identification tag there at some point, for mysterious pipes/wires/sounds, since those are my favorite sort

I love mysteries :p

emanresu A

ಠ_ಠ

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

03:07

@tjjfvi your answer has been passed onto the js war criminals successfully o7

Niko

my rep got -20

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

happens^tm

Niko

someone's account was removed :P

Bubbler

03:29

I got -130, which I think is the highest damage to me so far from a single removal

emanresu A

^^^^ -20

lyxal

-40 here

Redwolf Programs

-20

Must've been at least a fairly prolific voter

To whoever seems to have gone through and upvoted enough times to reimburse (presumably all of our) lost rep, thanks :p

lyxal

you're welcome

oh wow I'm half a month of voting cap away from overtaking Martin Ender

Redwolf Programs

03:46

Oh nice!

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

in votes cast? wow

lyxal

I'm current 5th of all time lol

with 10569 votes

Razetime

gnat is insane omg

Redwolf Programs

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Well, that's more rep flowing, which is typically a good thing

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

i mean i never said it wasn't i'm just surprised

Redwolf Programs

03:47

Non-FGITW answers and those posted by me both deserve many more upvotes :p

emanresu A

tfw you write two answers in the same language to the same question and don't notice

lyxal

@emanresuA ikr

Bubbler

Technically two separate posts are fine because Vyxal r != Vyxal :P

:P flag in Vyxal when? :P

Redwolf Programs

I wonder how many answers you could add to the same question in the same language before people noticed

lyxal

@Bubbler when I figure out how to make digraph flags ;p

Redwolf Programs

03:50

And if you would get a few upvotes each time :p

emanresu A

I should probably merge them ~~but I don't want to lose rep~~

Redwolf Programs

~~Just delete the one with a flag~~

Razetime

@Bubbler you can start an issue and we would gladly add it

rickroll and amogus got in so why not this

emanresu A

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Q: Would clickbait work inside someone's brain? Click here to find out!

Let's assume that there is a magic that can push information directly into people's brains. However, that magic has some limitations: It can only "push" single sentences of 8 words or less With a thought, the person can "expand" the text and give the reader more information It only works within ...

magic communication internet

lyxal

make sure to tag it correctly tho

caird coinheringaahing

03:58

Hmm, interesting. The user removed wasn't the user I was expecting

emanresu A

how do you know this?

caird coinheringaahing

~~I am CEO of Stack Exchange~~ I have my methods :P

hyper-neutrino

wait, how do you know this? I mean if I tried harder maybe I could find it but I took a cursory look and there aren't even mod tools for finding that info

caird coinheringaahing

Basically, when high-profile users want to do delete their account, they have to edit either their username or profile to say something like "delete me" (IIRC). I noticed a high rep user changed their username to something like that fairly recently, and expected them to be deleted soon. I just checked, and they're still around, so it wasn't them

emanresu A

user202729, you mean?

caird coinheringaahing

04:01

I don't want to name names

emanresu A

DELETE_ME

16.6k 2 33 66

code-golf math number string code-challenge sequence array

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

i believe the general consensus re: deleting accts is to let them delete their acct in peace and otherwise ignore it

(as requested by SE/mods in general in the past)

emanresu A

IIRC, they changed their name aboout 6 months ago

(I think)

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

.shrug SE doesn't listen to usernames alone so

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing Huh, the FAQ on how to delete your account doesn't say anything about that. I could've sworn that was a requirement...

@emanresuA Ok, I still didn't want to name names. There's usually a reason people want to delete their accounts, and rarely does that reason include a lot of people knowing about it

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

04:04

@cairdcoinheringaahing you definitely didn't have to do that, or at least it's relatively new i think

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing Sorry

caird coinheringaahing

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only person with 5+ edits this month, but I can't remember who else was there

Fr some reason, I'm thinking either ngn or alephalpha, but they're both still around

New Posts

04:21

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Q: Solve an Inglenook Sidings Puzzle

Solve an Inglenook Sidings Puzzle Background The Inglenook Sidings Puzzle is a shunting/switching yard puzzle by Alan Wright for model railroading. The rules for the puzzle are as follows: (Source) Form a departing train consisting of 5 out of the 8 wagons sitting in the sidings. The 5 wagons ar...

code-golf game puzzle-solver

Redwolf Programs

04:44

Back with part two of "what is this ad"

I'm so confused

PyGamer0

wtf

emanresu A

Easter five months early???

PyGamer0

lol

CMQ: Should I remove LCTs from flax?

cocomac

@Jasen In the interest of not starting an edit war, I'm asking in chat. I (respectfully) disagree with the revision of my spelling change here codegolf.stackexchange.com/posts/105164/revisions (specifically I disagree with the edit labeled "Websters so-called dictionary is an abomination."). I firmly believe it should be spelled "capitalization" not "capitalisation" is used more. Other non-reputable dictionaries spell it my way.

emanresu A

@cocomac Both are fine, and there's really no point in editing it.

PyGamer0

04:50

^

cocomac

@emanresuA OK. I'll leave it be then

Niko

I wonder who's account got removed

PyGamer0

?

cocomac

?

PyGamer0

wth

Redwolf Programs

04:53

@cocomac Isn't the s/z thing in those sorts of words an american vs. british english thing anyway?

emanresu A

ಠ_ಠ

@RedwolfPrograms Pretty much yeah

PyGamer0

american snake: zzzzzzzzzzzz
british snake: ssssssssssssss

Redwolf Programs

Wait I thought it was the other way around

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms looks like elsagate material

PyGamer0

pretty sure americans use ssssssssssss

Redwolf Programs

04:55

I've always associated the zs with american english

Am I just a bad american

emanresu A

5m to aoc peeps

Redwolf Programs

Wrong room :p

Unrelated String

@PyGamer0 now I'm even more confused

Redwolf Programs

Keep in mind ngrams are for published books, so you're not likely to get many mentions of "minecraft" even in modern ones

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms

> Verbs that in British language can end in “ise” or “ize” will always be spelled with “ize” in American English.

Redwolf Programs

04:56

Knew it!

PyGamer0

(so i changed my snake joke)

tjjfvi

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ That was fast. Round two, anyone?

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

@tjjfvi js nerd sniping is a wonderful time

emanresu A

@tjjfvi Dammit, [^] doesn't work

cocomac

@RedwolfPrograms Honestly, I don't know. I've always heard capitalization (and that is what my browser's spell check says), but honestly, it isn't worth arguing over, so I'm not going to argue over it, and possibly get in trouble with the mods

hyper-neutrino

05:02

Jasen isn't in chat anyway, so they won't get your ping

either way, thank you for not starting an edit war over it; it's OP's post anyway so they should get to decide on the final spelling

I only approved the edit because it improved the other parts; if it were just the spelling of course i would've rejected it

PyGamer0

flax: feedback

^ better glyphs for things?

Redwolf Programs

@cocomac Don't worry, you wouldn't get in trouble for arguing over spelling, as long as things stay civil (and the discussion was here, not in an edit war).

Although of course not arguing over spelling is still a preferrable outcome :p

PyGamer0

05:34

flax: codepage beginnings

cocomac

@RedwolfPrograms I know discussing it in chat is fine, but I didn't want to cause one of these. I'm fine with leaving the spelling be

@hyper-neutrino I realize it wouldn't make sense here, but generally, can I ping a user that isn't in chat? Sometimes over on Ask Ubuntu I want to ping someone regarding a question or comment I want to discuss

hyper-neutrino

@cocomac Nope. Mods can superping users but generally we only do that for really important matters

you can invite someone to join a room though

Redwolf Programs

They do have to have a chat account for that though, right?

cocomac

@hyper-neutrino Good to know, thanks for explaining!

hyper-neutrino

the invite part, yes

I can superping people who don't have a chat account and it will force create one for them lol

i think

cocomac

05:40

@hyper-neutrino Can a non-mod do that? E.g., if I create a chat room, can I invite someone that doesn't have a chat account? Sometimes I'll just post a "Let's move this discussion to chat", and link the relevant chat room. Even though I can't move messages like mods can, it usually works out well

hyper-neutrino

@cocomac no, it's specifically a mod thing (and that's for superpinging only, not inviting)

the "let's move this discussion to chat" thing actually doesn't invite the user even if they have a chat account

cocomac

Oh ok, thanks!

@hyper-neutrino True, but commenting on their question pings them, and when they get the notification, they'll often just follow it to chat

hyper-neutrino

yep, exactly

lyxal

06:08

Funny plate joke

►

some high quality content that y'all know and love

PyGamer0

06:22

nice

emanresu A

We of the autopfp

PyGamer0

06:36

flax: codepage feedback?

@lyxal ^?

lyxal

@PyGamer0 sort the letters with funny bits alphabetically

PyGamer0

@lyxal ok

emanresu A

Don't use stuff like ⚺⚻ which don't render in all fonts

PyGamer0

@emanresuA so what should i use for min/max

emanresu A

Also, what's the (visual) difference between Ƅ and ƅ, or ð and ∂?

@PyGamer0 Idk, you could pull a Vyxal and use g / G

PyGamer0

06:44

wdym

@emanresuA cant

emanresu A

They're quite visually similar

PyGamer0

g is lowercase

@emanresuA the latter isnt

the former is

the point is, the former makes sense

emanresu A

What do they do?

PyGamer0

lyxal

@emanresuA keep in mind that flax is like jelly in that uppercase is monadic and lowercase is dyadic

emanresu A

06:47

@lyxal Oh true.

PyGamer0

Ƅ Filter
ƅ Filter over right

^ modifiers

emanresu A

What does Jelly use for those?

PyGamer0

@emanresuA jelly doesnt have them

also keep in mind that i changed glyphs

emanresu A

I mena for max/min

lyxal

@PyGamer0 Δ and ∇

PyGamer0

06:48

@lyxal ∇∆ thx

emanresu A

Yeah, that looks good

lyxal

Ƒ for filter and ƒ for filter over right?

PyGamer0

@lyxal ok that makes more sense

lyxal

@PyGamer0 just for clarity: are the chaining rules exactly the same as jelly or are there some modifications?

PyGamer0

@lyxal same

lyxal

06:51

okay cool

PyGamer0

ok updated the code page

and the atom/modifier list

shoot forgot to update the other character with diatrics

ok they are decently ordered

emanresu A

Also ⏨ doesn't render in my font

PyGamer0

oh

emanresu A

Can you post a screenshot?

(Also, small numbers like ²₃⁵ should probably be grouped together)

Unrelated String

@emanresuA it's a subscript 10

lyxal

06:59

PyGamer0

@emanresuA ok

lyxal

@PyGamer0 are there any explicit train separators?

(like Jelly's øµðɓ)

PyGamer0

yes

(except the last one)

lyxal

where they?

PyGamer0

gist.github.com/PyGamer0/…

Unrelated String

07:01

ɓ is surprisingly useful; i would recommend including it

PyGamer0

ok done

Unrelated String

a less jank version of ) could also be a good idea

though maybe with a different glyph unless you can think of a satisfying way to match ( with it

granted jelly's is pretty pessimal considering ( is literally undefined

PyGamer0

ok

ok done

have a lot of space left, which i think is a good thing

Razetime

07:23

pygamer are you reimplementing Jelly

PyGamer0

technically, partially, maybe, probably, physically, chemically

just the specs

havent started writing any program yet

emanresu A

08:01

Should codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16826/… be closed?

hyper-neutrino

probably should. though there are quite a few popcon graphical-output challenges of similar ambiguity and idk if they should all be closed or opened

but this one seems a bit worse specified than most

emanresu A

Also, goto sleep, it's 3am

PyGamer0

^ so how does this code page look?

emanresu A

Pretty good

lyxal

@PyGamer0 needs a superscript 3

emanresu A

08:16

^

PyGamer0

what would ³ do?

cube?

....square ...root?

emanresu A

Nah, use √ for that

It's just weird to have 1245 but not 3

lyxal

^

@PyGamer0 1st input or a constant if no inputs

PyGamer0

input as in command line args?

and what should the constant be?

hyper-neutrino

whatever you think would be convenient for niladic programs

PyGamer0

08:23

16, 32, 64

ⓑ outputs 0 1

CMQ: Should I create a separate array class for flax or should I use lists?

hyper-neutrino

do you plan to have infinite lists? if so, it's probably easier to make everything your custom class; if not, i don't see why you'd bother

Bubbler

whatever suits the needs and feels more natural for you

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino does jelly have infinite lists?

Bubbler

no, but 05ab1e and husk do

PyGamer0

ok then flax might have infinite lists in the future

so is this infinite lists?

pxeger

08:40

yes

there are other ways of doing infinite lists, of course, but that's definitely the most obvious

and probably most idiomatic in Python

emanresu A

@Bubbler And Vyxal, although it;s a little buggy

pxeger

> a little

PyGamer0

ok i shall start on flax

@JoKing how do mods know that?

ip address?

emanresu A

Just watched My Neighbour Totoro and I have the theme music stuck in my head

pxeger

@PyGamer0 I think mods can see users' email addresses

PyGamer0

08:52

wha

Unrelated String

@PyGamer0 with the caveat that it doesn't entirely behave like a list, but you could probably build a more proper infinite list around generators if you want

might be worth looking at some of the funkier haskell sequence answers

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