The Nineteenth Byte

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

02:05

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeeep

> The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure — Amendment A — would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

"It is clear that Amendment A contains provisions embracing at least three separate subjects, each with distinct objects or purposes," Chief Justice Steven Jensen wrote in the majority opinion, which found recreational marijuana, medical marijuana and hemp each to be separate issues.

source like ok king y'all really had to fail it for that? just be honest and say "weed is the devil's marijuana"

rues

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Can you come live here? Perhaps you’re a good luck charm and it’ll get legalized here too :p

For legal reasons that’s a joke

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

where are you lol

rues

Idk, where is anyone really

I’m trying to find my self just like everyone else

(Also I don’t actually want it legalized here because then I might actually end up smoking it)

Redwolf Programs

02:21

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Wait what, that has nothing to do with what tjjfvi said though

It's not a religious debate, prohibitionism and stuff was very connected to religious values IIRC

And alcohol being allowed for religious purposes is just tangential to that

And legislation being influenced by (christian) religious values is not exactly an uncommon thing in the US despite what it would seem like

caird coinheringaahing

02:45

@rues Don't puff on the devil's lettuce, it's for communist antifa members :P

Thomas Ward

turns various actual herbs into vape juice and puffs the herb vapor

Aaroneous Miller

@ThomasWard oh neat, you're only a couple hours away from me

Thomas Ward

in which direction lol

and it depends on which side of the state i'm on :P

caird coinheringaahing

@ThomasWard Aaron lives at the bottom of the ocean. Head due east, drive for 2 hours, ignore the water and you'll reach him :P

Wait, I forgot how big the US is, 2 hours could still be in the same state :/

Thomas Ward

hah. can i just drop an orbital payload on them instead? Travel time for that is 90 seconds :P

Redwolf Programs

02:55

@cairdcoinheringaahing Or, if you live in Texas, more than ten hours :p

caird coinheringaahing

That's just called "bad traffic" :P

Thomas Ward

@cairdcoinheringaahing ye it takes about 6 horus with a break or two to get from east to west borders of the state via major cities and the PA Turnpike

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, I've found one that takes over 12h within Texas

13h seems to be about the highest you can get

Corpus Christi (or maybe McAllen) to Amarillo is probably the longest you'd ever actually have to go though, anything north of Amarillo is mostly just small towns

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

@cairdcoinheringaahing it's around 14 hours from san diego to the oregon border, probably 15 from the border to the oregon border.

Redwolf Programs

I wonder if Alaska would have any longer ones

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

03:00

google maps will tell you it's less but 1. most ppl won't do that in one go without a quick rest stop and 2. i've done it, it takes 14 hours lol

Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms Well, if you count Alaska's long tail thing, it almost certainly does

Lol 45h from Prudhoe Bay to Ketchikan

Oh, but it goes through part of Canada

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

don't think you can count either the aleutians or whatever the rigth tail is called, since i think that's mostly islands

Redwolf Programs

I'm not counting those, no

I'm only doing somewhat large cities, which I doubt are in the Aleutians lol

tjjfvi

@RedwolfPrograms Is this max min distance to get out of the state or max max distance?

Redwolf Programs

I picked two cities within Texas and looked at the shortest route it could find

Maybe going east to west could be slightly longer (though I doubt it), let me check

Yeah El Paso to Beaumont is about the same as McAllen to Amarillo

So 13h for Texas, 14h for California, and unknown for Alaska since I have no idea how many roads they actually have

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

03:10

google tells me that texas is longer norht-south than CA, by about 1000 vs 800 mi. unclear if you'll be able to get more hours of it though, probably like 2, but depends on traffic & all

emanresu A

@RedwolfPrograms ಠ_ಠ why

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

since CA is much more densely populated

Aaroneous Miller

@cairdcoinheringaahing Pretty much, except it's more north, in the middle of the great lakes. I built a floating island out of dirt up at build height, which is where I live

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caird coinheringaahing

Oh, I've been meaning to tower up to y = 256, what's it like? :P

Aaroneous Miller

windy

Redwolf Programs

03:12

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Oh huh, I wasn't really even looking at distance. Yeah, traffic is probably a factor in the time estimation, and Texas probably has lots more long stretches of road without cities and stuff to slow you down

Aaroneous Miller

Although I think I might have to move my island, what with the new build height and everything

emanresu A

That'll be a pain - you'll need a bunch of flying machines and those things are noisy.

Redwolf Programs

You could use vertical dolphin tunnels

And shut off the water stream when not in use

So all the evidence there'd be of your path up is some dolphins hanging from leads into unticked water sources

Aaroneous Miller

@emanresuA that's definitely something I'll have to consider. So far I've been trying to live my life without cheats, but that might be an option too

Redwolf Programs

Put your whole island in a shulker box

Aaroneous Miller

03:15

@RedwolfPrograms I can't, that's where I keep my rock collection

emanresu A

You know what's better than one iisland? Two.

Aaroneous Miller

yeah, maybe I'll just build another one

that seems easier than the flying machines

Redwolf Programs

Make your whole island a flying machine

So you can move it to catch birds

Aaroneous Miller

ooh, there's an idea

emanresu A

04:01

Bronze cops-and-robbers!

Razetime

nice job

Redwolf Programs

04:24

You're really cranking out tag badges lol

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing no bees :(

Redwolf Programs

cmp [2 1] 2

Which is bigger

Or are they equally large

I'm thinking [2 1] could be bigger if you treat 2 as a single item (so since [2 1] is longer and they're identical up until then it wins), but [2 1] could be smaller if you continue along the array until you find an item that's different, and compare them

I can see each approach as valid. Onions?

emanresu A

@RedwolfPrograms [0 1]

Bubbler

Python 2: 2<[2,1] is true

Redwolf Programs

Non vectorizing compare, I should add :p

Bubbler

04:35

Python 3: 2<[2,1] is type error but [2]<[2,1] is true

APL: 2<2 1 is 0 0

Redwolf Programs

Should cmp 1 2 be -1 or 1?

I'm thinking -1 makes more sense

Bubbler

cmp x y usually returns a value representing one of <=> that makes x (cmp) y true

and 1 < 2 so it should return Less

and usually the ordering of those goes like Less < Equal < Greater so Less being -1 is sane

Redwolf Programs

Sounds good. -1 also makes my compare function play nice with JS's .sort, so that's another sign I'm doing it right.

emanresu A

Js's .sort is weird

tjjfvi

You're weird

Bubbler

04:44

.sort() is weird, .sort((x,y)=>...) is not that weird

Redwolf Programs

^

2 ** -1 // 0.25

Yep

Perfectly normal and working math going on

PyGamer0

oh cool Notepad++ can hack into things

Unrelated String

features

hyper-neutrino

05:22

2 days ago, by Rɪᴋᴇʀ

go all in for degenerate pfp

so i did and nobody's commented on it kekw

Unrelated String

you merely did what was expected of you

hyper-neutrino

lol

Niko

hyper pfp pog

hyper-neutrino

does anyone recognize it lol 💀 tbh i might not even if i saw it

Unrelated String

i'm like halfway to reverse image searching it

Niko

05:34

can’t recognize but it’s lookin good

Unrelated String

oh

so yeah i haven't seen what it's from but i sure as hell have heard of it and i uh
i can see what motivated the choice

hyper-neutrino

:)

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Geometry Dash Clone in a weird Way? code-challenge cloning-games Try to make a functional clone of Geometry Dash in the shortest time. How GD Works. You have a cube. In the clone, it can be as small as you want, but no bigger than 2x2. You have to jump over spikes. The key to do this is (prefera...

Unrelated String

:)

emanresu A

How are codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/196035/… and codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/195931/… not dupes?

(It's a different alphabet, that's all)

Niko

05:45

@SandboxPosts this one looks interesting

emanresu A

(I'd say #2's the dupe)

Bubbler

IMO having and not having input parsing is different challenge 99% of the time, but I guess the difference didn't impact the Jelly solution at least?

Unrelated String

meanwhile i've been waiting for you to ask about this pfp so i can just
post a screenshot of the credits where her name is actually written in a smaller font than everything else and is still about three times as long

hyper-neutrino

have you used this person as a pfp before? looks oddly familiar

Unrelated String

i don't think i've used any other pfps than the three i've had over the last like three days

which includes my normal one

stylistically similar since it's still from the same anime ofc

hyper-neutrino

05:52

hm. well idk who it is, please do enlighten me :p

Unrelated String

yeah

hyper-neutrino

wtf

Unrelated String

the katakana are uniformly a bit shorter than the kanji in there overall but then they also had to actually horizontally scale the whole thing down

emanresu A

It has the face

(ツ)

Unrelated String

@UnrelatedString four

*

hyper-neutrino

05:57

there are actually two faces

ツ　シ

:D

tbf i don't think anyone really uses the second one as a face cuz the first is just better for that. lol

Unrelated String

compared side by side shi looks like tsu getting abruptly moved to the right

hyper-neutrino

lol

PyGamer0

06:25

18 hours ago, by PyGamer0

how often are heterogeneous arrays used in cgcc answers?

Unrelated String

in terms of type or depth

PyGamer0

type

Unrelated String

typewise they're pretty common for jelly string stuff but that's more a jelly thing than a general thing

PyGamer0

like: [1, [2,3]]

Unrelated String

i guess depending on the model depth is a sub-issue of type

Bubbler

06:28

AoCG notice: Challenge posting volunteers appreciated for 3rd-5th (details in the link)

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@PyGamer0 Heterogeneous arrays arise when handling trees as nested arrays, but it doesn't occur too often (and you can often get away with adjacency lists (a regular list of lists) for trees and graphs)

Unrelated String

^

PyGamer0

so technically a language doesnt need support for them?

Bubbler

But sometimes you need to handle e.g. tuples of a number and a list too

or more complex data

PyGamer0

      (3 3⍴⍳9) 1 2 3
┌─────┬─┬─┬─┐
│1 2 3│1│2│3│
│4 5 6│ │ │ │
│7 8 9│ │ │ │
└─────┴─┴─┴─┘

^ is that a heterogeneous array

Bubbler

Yes, kind of

PyGamer0

06:35

      3 (3 4) + 1 2 (3 4 (4 6))
LENGTH ERROR
      3(3 4)+1 2(3 4(4 6))
            ∧

and jelly allows such ^ operations?

Bubbler

Jelly tries to do something sensible instead of erroring

So it adds matching numbers from the start, and the tail of the longer one simply gets attached at the end

But APL can also perfectly do arithmetic on arbitrary nested arrays, unless length mismatch occurs

So 3 (3 4) 3 + 1 2 (3 4 (4 6)) should work

PyGamer0

      3 (3 4) 3 + 1 2 (3 4 (4 6))
┌─┬───┬─────────┐
│4│5 6│┌─┬─┬───┐│
│ │   ││6│7│7 9││
│ │   │└─┴─┴───┘│
└─┴───┴─────────┘

Bubbler

@PyGamer0 Do you understand the result?

PyGamer0

no

Bubbler

3 (3 4) 3 is a 3-item vector containing 3, (3 4), 3

1 2 (3 4 (4 6)) is a 3-item vector containing 1, 2, (3 4 (4 6))

So the result contains 3+1, (3 4)+2, 3+(3 4 (4 6))

PyGamer0

06:43

oh

Bubbler

That's how languages with "scalar function" (APL) or "vectorization" (Jelly, Vyxal) work

PyGamer0

then what is ⊂

Unrelated String

not

it doesn't do that

Bubbler

?

Unrelated String

oh i read that as c lmao

PyGamer0

06:46

      (⊂ 1 2) 3 + 4
┌─────┬─┐
│┌───┐│7│
││5 6││ │
│└───┘│ │
└─────┴─┘

      (1 3) 3 + 4
┌───┬─┐
│5 7│7│
└───┴─┘

Unrelated String

like i was about to follow up with "do you have any idea what c is like"

Bubbler

⊂x wraps any array x and makes it a scalar

so it adds 1 level of nesting

roughly [x] in Python

PyGamer0

      ↑(1 3) 3 + 4
5 7
7 0

so [1, 3, 5, [3, 5]] is 1 3 5 (3 5) in apl

Bubbler

yes

hyper-neutrino

⊂ increases the depth and not the rank tho right

Bubbler

06:50

yes

PyGamer0

and [[1,2],[3,4]] is (1 2) (3 4) in apl and not 2 2⍴1 2 3 4

Bubbler

correct

hyper-neutrino

lol, when you google translate russian stack overflow posts the flag button is called "anxiety"

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lyxal

07:15

so which is it?

hyper-neutrino

yes

lyxal

But really though can anyone tell me why github workflows would be saying my files arent formatted correctly and locally they are when the same file with the exact same content is being checked on both?

Also, the command to check both is exactly the same

hyper-neutrino

version diff? idk

PyGamer0

linux? idk

> The next Lang Jam (#0002) will be held on Friday the 3rd of December, starting at 7pm UK time and run for 7 days, ending on 7pm on the following Friday (the 10th of December). In this time, you'll be allowed 48 total hours to work on code and 12 total hours to work on documentation and presentation.

lyxal

black is just a python library , and unless they released a new version like 12 hours ago, I don't think there should be any difference

PyGamer0

07:21

ok whos going to do the next langjam?

emanresu A

07:50

After the rtain wreck of last time? Probably not me.

PyGamer0

08:36

is an jelly LCC just a chain starting with a nilad and with no lone dyads?

how does jelly determine the arity of a chain

Fmbalbuena

@PyGamer0 wdym?

PyGamer0

@Fmbalbuena langjam

Fmbalbuena

lang jam?

PyGamer0

create a programming language based on a theme in 48 hrs

like gamejams

Fmbalbuena

when starts?

PyGamer0

08:41

github.com/langjam/langjam

lyxal

@PyGamer0 number of arguments passed

Fmbalbuena

lang jam must be cool or golfing?

PyGamer0

@Fmbalbuena lang must be cool

and must follow the theme

github.com/langjam/langjam#how-projects-are-judged

Fmbalbuena

@PyGamer0 theme? i understood

PyGamer0

@lyxal what about the helper links?

Fmbalbuena

08:47

@PyGamer0 if the theme is golfing then it's a lot of work.

Unrelated String

09:01

@PyGamer0 it's somewhat complicated

iirc the actual check is some kind of lexicographic comparison to a repeating pattern lmao

Fmbalbuena

@PyGamer0 how to upload a lang?

ok i found a way

PyGamer0

Can you give an example of interpretation allowing more flexibility? — user85052 Jan 24 '20 at 11:38

@lyxal ^

Fmbalbuena

09:18

@PyGamer0 I have never created real programming language

i created esolangs but not real programming languages

PyGamer0

09:45

i would guess real langs would be easier to create

Unrelated String

practical languages tend to be of a much more constrained form than esolangs
you have to worry about actual parsing and things making sense

emanresu A

10:07

@Bubbler I can handle saturday, but not the other two

o/

lyxal

10:52

@Bubbler I'll handle the 3rd (tomorrow) but not the 5th (sunday)

Razetime

11:31

@Bubbler are we handing out bounties for first time BQN answers?

I can handle 5th

Bubbler

12:27

Thanks all for the volunteers :D

@Razetime Idk. Your choice I guess

lyxal

> 4 hours ago

in Vyxal, 1 min ago, by Vyxal Bot

Lyxal created branch Vyxal/fix-312-and-list-printing

> 1 min ago

...

rues

@cairdcoinheringaahing Why only for them? D:

lyxal

12:45

@cairdcoinheringaahing no, aaron lives in my cupboard

gee frick who do you think I am? Redwolf?

I actually take care of my plates

I don't lose them and I certainly don't let them sink to the bottom of the ocean

Also fun fact: there was once an Area51 proposal for a meme StackExchange site

7

it failed sadly

PyGamer0

shhh i totally didnt send this link

lyxal

your secret is safe with me

PyGamer0

ok so your feedback? lol

allxy

@lyxal and me

caird coinheringaahing

@PyGamer0 It's slightly more complicated in reality, but essentially it's a nilad followed by a collection of monads, dyad-nilad pairs and nilad-dyad pairs

lyxal

13:00

in simple terms: a nilad followed by something that couldn't possibly include that nilad in a pattern

@PyGamer0 maybe have j on its own represent 0 + 1j?

that's what vyxal 2.6 does

you can't try it online yet lol because production needs to be updated to main with a PR

PyGamer0

13:30

@lyxal m good idea

@cairdcoinheringaahing wdym by reality?

Aaroneous Miller

Yeah caird, don't you know that reality isn't real?

PyGamer0

exactly

Redwolf Programs

14:33

@lyxal Imagine having to censor your username on your laptop, and not just have it set to redwo by Windows and you have no idea why

redwo -> owo has too low of a levenshtein distance

Alan Bagel

I'm still doing randomly capitalizing half a string

import random


def f(s):
    n = 0

    for c in s:
        if n <= len(s) // 2 and random.randint(0, 1):
            yield c.upper()
            n += 1
        else:
            yield c


for i in range(10):
    print("".join(f("good")))

and it's still not working

Redwolf Programs

Any feedback on Correctly parse a URL?

Alan Bagel

@RedwolfPrograms i uh, clicked on it

Redwolf Programs

I suppose you didn't correctly parse the url

Alan Bagel

@RedwolfPrograms im speechless

@RedwolfPrograms Do you actually have a sandbox post about that?

Alan Bagel

15:23

hmm TNB is a little quiet today

Adám

@AlanBagel That's fine, and not a reason to comment.

Alan Bagel

oh

it didnt know

Adám

Also, today is right on track for the average number of daily messages :-)

Alan Bagel

oh

Adám

The chat usually picks up in the next hour or so.

Aaroneous Miller

15:35

I once again have the lovely visage of a plate

PyGamer0

@AaroneousMiller you are back

or your pfp is back

Aaroneous Miller

yep

PyGamer0

i think i will keep my current pfp

and i have changed it on github

Aaroneous Miller

I liked it, but it was a bit noisy

PyGamer0

finally i learnt markdown tables

Language specs feedback

^ Not completed

caird coinheringaahing

16:02

@PyGamer0 Thé way the jelly interpreter checks if a chain in an LCC is by some weird lexicographical comparison that I'm pretty sure no one except Dennis properly understands. But, for all intents and purposes, it's the "nilad followed by monads, dyad-nilad and nilad-dyad" definition that works

    def leading_nilad(chain):
	    return chain and arities(chain) + [1] < [0, 2] * len(chain)

Alan Bagel

I'm trying to randomly capitalize half a string and I'm trying

    import random


    def f(s):
        n = 0

        for c in s:
            if n < len(s) // 2 and random.randint(0, 1):
                yield c.upper()
                n += 1
            else:
                yield c


    for i in range(10):
        print("".join(f("good")))

but it sometimes doesn't work

Aaroneous Miller

@PyGamer0 These two messages together just gave me a tiny sliver of an esolang idea that I think could be very interesting if elaborated on.

rues

> The

Smh British putting tea everywhere

Aaroneous Miller

> Thé

caird coinheringaahing

Blame my phone keyboard, for some reason it was in French

rues

16:12

Prétend I had an accent

Redwolf Programs

@AlanBagel No

rues

Lol i actually git an accent on pretend

Aaroneous Miller

Nice accent

What does it sound like?

rues

Where you from?

Redwolf Programs

@AaroneousMiller Eternal screaming

rues

16:16

@AaroneousMiller Like he’ll coming to swallow your

Aaroneous Miller

@RedwolfPrograms ah yes, of course

Redwolf Programs

By my calculations, I'm likely to have the most messages in TNB out of any user in about a year

Actually, HN's numbers are pretty high so make that closer to two years

Glad to have numerical proof that I have no life

Aaroneous Miller

@RedwolfPrograms ~~Whelp, time to start a spam bot on my account~~

rues

@RedwolfPrograms Simply being in TNB is half tge proof

hyper-neutrino

riker has more than me FYI

New Posts

16:23

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Q: code for a challenge

It’s Christmas time and project MANAS is getting ready to open their presents. Unfortunately, Shivansh is a bit clumsy and falls over the presents by mistake. The presents are actually gift hampers so their contents get spread on the floor by mistake. Thankfully, the damage is not much and one ca...

code-challenge

Redwolf Programs

Alan Bagel

@hyper-neutrino this message has no zalgo

@RedwolfPrograms wait what no credit

hyper-neutrino

er, where did chat put my diamond

pxeger

uhh

lmao that's not good

Redwolf Programs

hN: hn has misplaced his diamond

(hN = hyperNews)

Alan Bagel

16:26

what flag should i use for no credit posts

Redwolf Programs

Don't bother flagging, it's about to be closed

Oh it's deleted now

hyper-neutrino

it's cuz yesterday i changed my profile to SO and back to get my pfp to switch

Aaroneous Miller

@hyper-neutrino your chat parent is so

oh ninja'd

hyper-neutrino

what

it showed as code golf for me earlier

maybe you checked during the 3 frames i spent swapping back and forth just now :P

Redwolf Programs

It shows as code golf for me as well

pxeger

16:28

it says code golf for me

Redwolf Programs

Lemme ctrl+shift+r, probably caching

Aaroneous Miller

@hyper-neutrino lol i think so, it says code golf now

pxeger

now it says codereview??

hyper-neutrino

anyway lemme just keep it on CR for a bit and then i'll switch it back to CGCC

i can't refresh my profile to update it cuz like

yk. that's mod power >_>

pxeger

lol

Redwolf Programs

16:29

Looks like whatever the "project MANAS" is, it's for a recruitment thing (the page is blocked on school wifi), so they're most likely trying to get us to get them a job lol

Alan Bagel

@RedwolfPrograms what should i have flagged it in case i see it again

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino more what? what's the context to this?

hyper-neutrino

11 mins ago, by Redwolf Programs

By my calculations, I'm likely to have the most messages in TNB out of any user in about a year

+ the one under

Redwolf Programs

@AlanBagel If it's a new post, flagging probably isn't even needed. It just sends it to a review queue, and most of the reviewers are active in TNB anyway.

New Posts

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Q: The 12 days of christmas

Introduction I have decided that this Christmas, as a "present" to a friend, I wish to purchase the things described in the classic song "The 12 Days of Christmas". The only problem is, I don't know what the total price will be! Your task Calculate the total price of all of the items in the song,...

code-golf math

Redwolf Programs

16:31

@RedwolfPrograms But if you did flag it, either a mod flag or maybe a VLQ and a comment would probably be best

hyper-neutrino

→ 7 messages moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino I know, but you've got a considerably higher messages-per-week ratio

hyper-neutrino

Oh, you mean like, in the long term I will be the last one you have to surpass?

Redwolf Programs

Yep, unless there's someone lower than me with an even higher messages-per-week

I'll overtake riker in about a year, but it'll take much longer to catch up with you (around 100 per week difference, instead of 400)

hyper-neutrino

oh, yeah that makes sense

rues

16:57

Riker has come back to challenge you though

They’ll keep increasing the frequency pf their messages to remain TNB’s chattiest user

caird coinheringaahing

17:08

@hyper-neutrino I believe we left essentially the exact same comment within seconds of each other :P

hyper-neutrino

yours is more helpful tho probably :P

caird coinheringaahing

Well, I do say it's a "nice first answer" :P

pxeger

17:31

ais523 is on HN again

caird coinheringaahing

ais, leave hyper alone! :P

2

pxeger

lol

hyper-neutrino

ಠ_ಠ

pxeger

looks like you've got your diamond back

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts I have to go shopping, so, if someone ninja's me in Jelly with this, I have 5 bytes with an MD5 of 1c16090a6cc032758a35db235129d375

Never mind, OP clarified it just in time :P

hyper-neutrino

17:38

ah

we both had the exact same idea to use J to get the range and dot product to get the item-wise prices and sum them :P

vyxal saves a byte on generating the coefficients but doesn't have 1-byte dot prod :/

pxeger

> -1 byte thanks to pxeger!

removing ¹ seems like cheating to be credited for a byte save lol

caird coinheringaahing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I didn't think of it

Aaroneous Miller

I had a 7 byte Vyxal answer, went to go post it, and golfed it by a byte before posting, went to go update the post I was writing, and golfed it by another byte, went to go update the post I was writing, and golfed it by another byte. I now have a 4 byte Vyxal solution

hyper-neutrino

4-bytes with s or flagless?

Aaroneous Miller

dangit, hn just sniped my vyxal answer

pxeger

17:48

@AaroneousMiller story of my life (normally with higher magnitudes than 7-6-5-4)

Aaroneous Miller

@hyper-neutrino with s

hyper-neutrino

ah. lol

Aaroneous Miller

I had 12ɾ:Ṙ**, then realized I could just get the 12 from the length of the input, then realized that if I was getting the length and casting that to a range, there is literally a builtin for it, then realized that pushing a reversed copy of something is a builtin as well.

The thing that reminded me about ż and Ḃ was noticing that the explanation I was typing was almost word for word the same as the description for those elements :P

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