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Is codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/236759/100664 a violation of a standard loophole?
@Adám Oh, interesting, I thought people only started getting them around the 90s
@ruse From Wikipedia:
> The first microcomputers, based on microprocessors, were developed during the early 1970s. Widespread commercial availability of microprocessors, from the mid-1970s onwards, made computers cheap enough for small businesses and individuals to own.
The IBM 5100 Portable Computer is a portable computer (one of the first) introduced in September 1975, six years before the IBM Personal Computer, and eight before the first successful IBM compatible portable computer, the Compaq Portable. It was the evolution of a prototype called the SCAMP (Special Computer APL Machine Portable) that was developed at the IBM Palo Alto Scientific Center in 1973. Whether considered evolutionary from SCAMP or revolutionary, it still needed to be plugged into an electric socket.When the IBM PC was introduced in 1981, it was originally designated as the IBM 5150...
Wow, that's an awfully big computer and a really small display
... "Portable"?
@emanresuA I don't think so, but it isn't an interesting answer
20:07
How much were you able to see on the display at a time?
@emanresuA ikr, the article says a computer in a truck was designated portable
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Ugh userscript is slow
It'd be so cool to go back in time and witness the evolution of computers firsthand
CMQ: Do you use the more chat commands userscript?
@emanresuA From the esolangs page, it seems like it was created specifically for that challenge
@emanresuA Yes
20:09
@emanresuA I use a chat commands userscript
@cairdcoinheringaahing So yes?
@Adám human?
@cairdcoinheringaahing which?
@emanresuA Idk maybe? I don't see any reason to remove the answer tho, cause it is a catalog style challenge
@cairdcoinheringaahing Ok :p
20:10
Downvote it? Sure, it's boring and a little cheaty. But delete? Nah, I don't think that's necessary
@ruse 16 lines of 64 characters. Try it online!
@pxeger I think the ATaco one, but I've completely changed the commands list
@Anush Yes, or if the A is guttural, it means forced or punished.
@emanresuA No.
I prefer the first one :)
It is basically the same as my name :-)
20:15
@cairdcoinheringaahing I have the following commands in mine: ['shrug', 'tableflip', 'o(_+)o', 'disapprove', 'like', 'unflip', 'why', 'sunglasses', 'O_O', 'strike', 'rickroll', 'userscripts', 'rscripts', 'tscripts', 'cscripts', 'acronyms', 'sandbox', 'iodefaults', 'welcome', 'tio', 'jelly', 'wrongflag', 'flagged']
@Adám :)
@cairdcoinheringaahing That's more than I have
I added ones for stuff I use from time to time
I have ['shrug','tableflip','unflip','borkalert','donger','o(_+)o' (regex),'disapprove','like','why','cool','lenny', '\\\\$(\\\\$?)(.+?)\\\\$\\\\1' (also a regex?), and ':(.*?):' (another regex?) ]
Don't think I've actually used either wrongflag or flagged since I stopped handling flags from math.SE rooms
20:19
I should probably stop that too
math.SE chat flags are infamous lol
Think of all the puns there'd be if .se was a valid file extension
it's a TLD
so maybe there are some there
@pxeger I wonder why that is
i made one of those "why is it always you three" memes with chat flags at some point but I can't find it - I do remember math.SE was definitely on it tho
20:25
I'd expect a lot more chats to come from Politics, given the controversialness of some of the topics discussed there
It's the second biggest site by far, but doesn't have its own chat server like SO
it does though
It used to (have its own server)
Yeah, but not really
@ruse but opinions aren't allowed on politics
> controverlionsness
20:25
@pxeger But I'm sure they pop up in chat rooms
hmm, these lions are very controver
Oh dear
4 CVs in under 30 seconds
@cairdcoinheringaahing Do you have a userscript for exactly that comment?
I hate that the close vote message redirects people to SO, because this isn't a great question for there as it is
@emanresuA I believe they do, one of Redwolf's
20:27
@emanresuA Not exactly that comment - it has 9 quick comments that just load the text
> although be sure to read their "how to ask" page first.
Sure, but who actually does that?
Nice, that was really quick (the deletion, I mean)
I wrote a fairly lengthy custom comment under someone's blatant off-topic post after consulting with SO mods and discussing its issues on SO itself
pointed them to the help center and gave them specific advice on how to fix up that post
20:28
and then later they posted it verbatim to SO, got it closed, and went on a rant on MSO >_>
@pxeger Cool, does the other one not have messages specific to CGCC?
@ruse it does, I just didn't like the set of options in it
@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, politics is the second biggest site?
@emanresuA no, math.SE is
@emanresuA God no, Math.SE is
20:29
@spooky-neutrino You know what they say: No good deed is useful for idiots
Oh. Conversation confuse
@spooky-neutrino At least this time, they weren't directed here by random SO commenters
@spooky-neutrino And of course the logical next step was coming here ಠ_ಠ
@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, that happens?
20:30
@ruse it's happened once in my recent memory
It happened a while back
Oh ok, thought this was a CR-like situation
I actually remember that, we all went and harassed the commenter on SO later :P
Yeah. Post's been deleted tho
yeah, i wasn't able to find it in my comments list lol
I've left one comment on SO this year, then the one before that was in 2019 :P
20:32
anyway... for how much off-topic SO stuff we get, we migrate surprisingly little over there :P
most general help questions posted here ok even on SO too are pretty low-quality
I think that's beceause a lot of users delete their posts willingly
Probably because if someone posted here, they're question's so crap it won't work on SO at all
@pxeger nah a lot of them either get returned or I ask an SO mod and they say it's bad
We do also only have a migration path to meta, not to SO
So it requires a mod to migrate them, which is only worth it if they'd do well on SO
yeah. not enough stuff here is actually migrateable to SO that a path would be a good idea
20:36
@spooky-neutrino If you're confused/don't care to the point where you're posting general programming questions here, chances are they aren't very good lol
We've migrated 27 posts to SO, 11 of which were in 2011
That's not even considering those that ended up deleted on SO
@cairdcoinheringaahing Why so many in 2011?
No idea, I was 9 at the time :P
lol
20:40
@cairdcoinheringaahing You were born in 2020?
Wait
nvm
@RedwolfProgrammed Hmm yes caird is a being that travels backwards in time
@RedwolfProgrammed ???? how did you get that wrong lmao
idk leave me alone lol
Turns out that age is actually an unsigned 32 bit integer, so I was actually 4294967296 years old, and turned 0 in 2002
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I'm surprised age isn't a signed 32 bit integer (because the universe is obviously written in Java) representing the milliseconds since a certain date
20:44
oh the universe is written in java? explains why nothing makes sense
@spooky-neutrino Java makes a lot of sense, I think you were thinking of JavaScript there :P
quantum entanglement is actually just a use-after-free
o.O
I thought the universe was written in JS?
20:45
How tf are programmers so shortsighted
actually wait yeah java is sensible enough ig
or maybe JS is written in the universe
ever think about that?
@pxeger Thanks, I'm even more confused about what quantum tunneling is now
mind_blown.gif
20:45
I hate to be that guy but...
@user I've realised entanglement makes a bit more sense to be caused by a uaf than quantum tunneling
quantum tunneling is just a floating-point error
Man I don't even know what quantum entanglement is
Entanglement just happens cause the programmer reused a variable name without realising it
I do know that @spooky-neutrino had some part in it, because Einstein described "spooky action at a distance", obviously referencing CGCC's particle mod
@cairdcoinheringaahing Makes sense now, thanks
yes obviously
20:48
@cairdcoinheringaahing you think the universe stores each particle in a separate variable? God wouldn't have thought to use an array?
That would imply a well-designed universe :P
@pxeger I refer you to the above xkcd
my favorite way of explaining entanglement, although obviously without actually explaining anything about the science behind particle physics, is that if you imagine you and a friend put a red and a blue ball in a box, shake it around, and each take and hide a ball without looking at it
perl has arrays!
If God exists, he's sh*t at making universes :P
20:49
then if you travel to opposite ends of the universe, as soon as you look at your ball, you immediately know what the other ball's color was
@pxeger But God is a sh*t programmer
> In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move
@spooky-neutrino Oh that actually makes sense
— Douglas Adams
@pxeger I mean, it's true
On a scale of eating ice cream to drinking ice cream, making the Universe is like snorting ice cream
Pretend that was a better analogy or whatever it's called
20:52
lol
@user You think you could have done it better?
No, because I can't make universes
:P
uh oh, is user gonna get in trouble for blasphemy?
No, y'all are
The universe is programmed with rocks
In an infinite desert, by Randall Munroe
20:55
@user I believe in our Lord and Savior the Flying Spaghetti Monster, who sprung up from the depths of the universe at the same time as the evil forces of Bitter Gourd. Bow to the Spaghetti Monster and it shall protect you from Bitter Gourd
@RedwolfProgrammed Relevant xkcd nvm that's literally an xkcd
505 lol
My favorite one
Off-topic, but is there any way to search for deleted Sandbox posts?
Only your own
Yup, I'm looking for an old draft of mine, but it looks like it's too old to see in the recently deleted list
20:58
I have it on a reliable source that God created the world using Haskell.
@user do you remember anything about it
I betcha he used some C for the less pure parts :P
@spooky-neutrino It had the word "quantum" a lot of times ("quantum tunnelling", "quantum FBI agent", etc.)
It was about the BB84 protocol, I think, but I don't know if "BB84" is actually in the draft because I abandoned it
Thanks!
mod abuse OP
21:02
Do you just search for stuff like normal posts or is there a special mod tool for it?
inquestion:2140 quantum deleted:1
i search like a normal user but deleted:1 gives me all deleted posts not just my own
That's handy
normal search does not give deleted things and unfortunately i don't think there's a way to search for both, so i have to run two queries if I don't know whether the post is deleted
What about deleted:0..1?
that's horribly cursed
21:05
oh wait that actually works ಠ_ಠ
Not just for mods either (but only shows your own posts)
@pxeger On this site, that's a compliment
Searching deleted posts should be allowed at 25k
You can see them anyway, you just can't search for them
why not just at 10k?
21:07
Presumably there's some reason they don't allow it at 10k
It is a bit more powerful than just seeing deleted posts, I suppose
Or 15k, at least, given that protecting questions is a pretty useless privilege
It was suggested, I'll find the post
@RedwolfProgrammed well by that logic presumably there'd be some reason they don't allow it at 25k either
Since you can see a specific person's deleted posts, which is something that they understandably might not have wanted to allow
@user honestly here the privilege is more of "unprotecting questions" lol
21:08
@RedwolfProgrammed hmm true
E.g. I wouldn't want someone looking through some of my earlier deleted posts
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A: Show all of my question/answers to me even if they are deleted

Jeff AtwoodGenerally when things get deleted, it's for a good reason, and we don't want users to be undeleting them -- there's a reason we require 10k rep to "see" deleted items at all, and only moderators can see deletions in a user's profile.

lol
What's the best movie that features hannukah in some important way?
21:19
A Hanukkah film is a genre of film in which the main emphasis is on the celebration of the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah. Films in this style traditionally incorporate the religious aspects of Hanukkah, such as lighting the menorah and the story of the Maccabees, as well as the cultural aspects of Hanukkah, such as spinning dreidels, or eating traditional foods such as latkes, sufganiyot, or gelt. Films in this genre are typically similar to comedy and romantic comedy films in content, however some are similar in style to action, drama, and animated films, among other genres. Hanukkah films are more...
@Anush In addition to the above, also these.
Thanks but which are any good?
That's subjective. Read reviews and ratings :-)
I wanted a human beings opinion :)
It's hard to know which reviews to trust
Thanks for the links
You won’t get that here, we’re all bots in TNB :p
@Anush An American Tail highly regarded. My kids liked it, at least.
21:30
Thanks!
@user :)
@cairdcoinheringaahing dressing up for halloween
@MannyQueen What's your PFP?
the dummy from undertale
This answer doesn't actually return or output tuples of integers does it?
Should it still be allowed?
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A: Solve linear equations over the integers

Noodle9SageMath, 92 bytes def f(x,y,z,w): for v in'abcd':var(v,domain=ZZ) return solve([a*x+b*y+c*z+d*w==0],a,b,c,d) Try it online!

@MannyQueen It took me embarassingly long to figure out you're JoKing lol
21:41
I've specified the output format clearly I thought
But I am not a golfing expert so will defer to those who know more
Hi @RedwolfProgrammed
@RedwolfProgrammed huh? i'm not joking, i'm completely serious
You're not completely serious, you're Manny Queen
CMQ: Most starred message
Mine is:
Oct 11 at 2:59, by busy
No, I'm busy.
mine is me being overly pedantic about terminology :p
Aug 13 '17 at 19:13, by HyperNeutrino
@ConorO'Brien IT. IS. AN. EMOTICON. NOT. AN. EMOJI.
me mentioning that the brainfuck hello world had been golfed (not by me lol)
21:51
Oct 26 '15 at 22:54, by Beta Decay
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No opinions from TNB :(
22:06
@emanresuA You can't search for that, can you?
Jul 10 at 19:46, by user
idk about y'all, but I come here to get away from real problems
nvm, just did it manually
You can see the list of all messages you've posted that got starred, then look through them
14 pages for me tho :/
Only 4 pages for me, so it didn't take too long. Looks like most of my messages aren't star-worthy :)
CMQ: How many starred messages do you have?
Sep 26 '17 at 20:26, by caird coinheringaahing
ಠ_ಠ I hate what Jelly has made me do. I just copy pasted the character W
7 pages
22:08
1 page
@Adám I just got that lol
@emanresuA :( Say something funny and we'll star it
@cairdcoinheringaahing That has 24 stars, the next highest I have is 14 O.o
something funny
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My only pinned message was probably the one saying "dad" (8 stars)
I love that the proof/screenshot of that being pinned, also has me saying "notice us senpai" above it :/
22:13
This screenshot is probably all the proof someone needs to burn TNB to the ground :P
Damn, ninja'd
What a ninja :P
CMC: Best screenshot of the starboard?
I don't even think I have any screenshots of the starboard :P
Meta-CMQ: Best CMQ?
@cairdcoinheringaahing I've got a few good ones, but I have so many screenshots I don't want to look through them all
22:17
II delete my screenshots
Not a screenshot, but here's a conversation about p*rn started by Adám
Unfortunately nobody who uses APL can code golf for the next month.
What second message?
:p
@RedwolfProgrammed Oh yeah, what's the next LOTM? Zsh?
@cairdcoinheringaahing I thought it was BQN?
nvm, I think Razetime just nominated that for LYAL recently, I got them mixed up
22:21
If it walks like Zsh too, we know it's Zsh
@user BQN was nominated yesterday
Or a duck impersonating Zsh
I make too many duck typing jokes don't I
@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, that must be what I was remembering
@RedwolfProgrammed Yes, but that's a good thing
Y'know, I have a duck with opposable thumbs. I'm worried it'll find my keyboard and start duck typing.
22:22
@RedwolfProgrammed Yeah, if you make any more, you'll start to look like a quack :P
@RedwolfProgrammed If it does, just duck punch it.
If any of us ever meet someone irl who looks like a red wolf, walks like a duck, and talks about too many duck jokes, we'll know to turn them in to the government because they're Redwolf Programs, a member of the fanatic cult known as JavaScripters
@Adám But the duck can just Duck Duck Go once it's on the computer :P
Bing, I didn't think of that.
Only a Yahoo would attempt to fight a creature as powerful as a duck
@user Can't you just uninstall Go. Then it can only duck duck
22:26
Brilliant!
You'd still need someone brave enough to go up against a duck with such cutting-edge technology
@Adám I might just bookmark this message as one of the few instances of Adám not using proper punctuation :P
How far up? Eventually you end up with a space opera.
@user I try to stop myself from fixing missing punctuation when the edit would ping someone.
A space opera? Is that an opera in space? I'd like to go to one if they have music by Vivaldi
@Adám Makes sense
@user Star Wars is a space opera :P
Space is mostly empty anyway. A Safari is way more interesting.
I know, it was a joke :P
@Adám Indeed, and there you can go duck-hunting
You don't even need to be a brave Explorer to go on one, which is great
22:31
@Adám only there can you hunt the legendary nine-tailed fire fox
Nothing like hunting down ice weasels and basilisks under the pale moon on the planet Circe-3
Watch out for spider Silk in the wild.
I'm running out of browser puns, someone help me out here :P
Me too, but I'm not crying – it is just an Onion.
There's a surprising number of browsers named after animals (wikipedia list)
@Adám A Waterfox can help with that
22:59
@user Personally, my favourite animals are Chrome coloured, seems more natural that way :P
23:14
@Adám A safari? I don't have time for that, maybe just a short tor.
I sometimes live life on the Edge, but only when I'm wearing socks
Who needs browsers? I just use a giant encyclopedia :p
@MannyQueen You'll need a good net to catch one. They're littered all over the landscape around here, so to find your way around you'll need a netscape navigator.
@user haha that's funny because there's two browsers in one there
@RedwolfProgrammed don't forget that you might need a Torch to light your way
But make sure the torch isn't too hot, otherwise your Rock might Melt
@lyxal I find Firefox much more Private, although I do go Incognito sometimes
23:31
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

caird coinheringaahingDisprove my group theory This is a cops-and-robbers challenge, based around abstract-algebra. The following includes some basic definitions applicable to both the cops and the robbers. Going back to basics, we have a couple of definitions, for the purposes of the challenge: A number is a number ...

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Q: Does China plan to launch artificial moons?

OddthinkingA recent news report suggests that China has an ambitious plan: to send three artificial moons into space in the next four years that would be bright enough to replace the streetlights in the south-western city of Chengdu by 2020 The source of the report is "state media People's Daily...

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23:58
"Artificial moon" is most likely a mistranslation of the CJK expression for "(artificial) satellite"
Launching a satellite sounds normal, launching a moon sounds literally crazy
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