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14:00
@Mayube same, 404 bad request here
and Firefox seems to be requesting it 6 times for some reason
Chrome is requesting it 3 times
It's a 400
Oh ninja'd by like 10m lol
I didn't read the transcript :p
I wonder if pfps are another vector for the external images security vulnerability
well, more data is always better :P
Fun fact: This image causes your browser to request the rickroll URL in the background, you can see it in the dev tools but it doesn't do anything of course
@RedwolfProgrammed perfect, exactly what I programmed you to do :P
14:16
@RedwolfProgrammed That's clever.
@Adám it's not even too hard to make it show as one image and, when you click on it, redirect to a rickroll
just a couple lines of php or whatever
@user as you can tell by the fact it's good at code golf, APL is pretty high-entropy
so it's probably too hard to predict most of the time
@RedwolfProgrammed i cant see the image actually
You shouldn't be able to
oh, ok
i was thrown off by the "This image" in the start
it is the null image
No, it's actually just the rickroll link with &.png at the end
So chat is a sussy baka and thinks it's an image
14:26
@Bubbler are you about?
it's 11:30pm where he is, so that entirely depends on if Bubbler has a good sleep schedule :P
Would you consider being awake at 11:30pm a good sleep schedule?
I'd say even if they have a good sleep schedule it depends on how early they need to be up in the morning
I'd consider not being on CGCC at 11:30pm to be a necessary part of a good sleep schedule, as this place insists on making you stay awake 3 hours longer than you should :P
good point. There's a difference between being awake and being on CGCC
for some, at least
CMC: Given two input strings [a, b], produce [a, b, a]
shit I gave you a localhost url lmao
...and it doesn't even work :/
14:40
nice
here's one that does work, for 6 bytes
Underload, 13 bytes: Try it online!
Wednesday's LYAL quickly took me from "ugh this language looks dumb" to "wow this language is fun!"
Braingolf, 5 bytes: Try it online!
@Mayube dzaima/APL, 2 bytes: 3⍴ Try it online!
14:59
I even added a new and nicer example!
"This algorithm determines whether a given set of sections provides a basis (up to torsion) for the Mordell–Weil group " cough
do you understand that?
@pxeger m.?
@pxeger if you have the time could you take a look at my sandboxed question please
@Mayube ruby, ->*a{a<<a[0]}, 13 bytes
15:09
0
Q: Solve linear equations over the integers

AnushAll variables in this question are integer valued. Input 4 integers w, x, y, z. They can be positive or negative and will be less than 1048576 in absolute value. Output The general solution to the equation. \$ aw+bx+cy+dz = 0 \$. The variables \$a, b, c, d\$ must all be integer values. Output for...

@NewPosts I don't understand any of this, but I imagine that's more on me than the question
@Anush it's not really any use asking me that if you're gonna post it 5 minutes later
but fwiw, I think it's a boring question
perfectly fine and well-specified, but boring
@Adám ah, that was probably it
(I already had enough problems with the en dash in the title)
The Cox–Zucker machine is an algorithm created by David A. Cox and Steven Zucker. This algorithm determines whether a given set of sections provides a basis (up to torsion) for the Mordell–Weil group of an elliptic surface E → S, where S is isomorphic to the projective line.The algorithm was first published in the 1979 article "Intersection numbers of sections of elliptic surfaces" by Cox and Zucker and was later named the "Cox–Zucker machine" by Charles Schwartz in 1984. The name is a homophone for an obscenity, and this was a deliberate move by Cox and Zucker, who conceived of the idea of...
> The name is a homophone for an obscenity, and this was a deliberate move by Cox and Zucker
> who conceived of the idea of coauthoring a paper as graduate students at Princeton for the express purpose of enabling this joke
So they worked together solely so that they could make that joke with their names
It doesn't sound right. Koks-Tsooker.
15:21
@Adám well, he's American, so he probably doesn't pronounce it the German way
Koks-zuhker
which is pretty close
thats fantastic
@pxeger I remembered that you weren't interested so I didn't wait for your response. I hope that's ok
oh ok then
it's ok to think it's boring. That's my view of 90% of the questions but that's ok
@RedwolfProgrammed also Cox ring too I notice
15:36
Is this spam or an actual answer
Or both
Is it stolen from another answer?
@RedwolfProgrammed Spam. They've copied the answer immediately below it sans formatting, then added their spam link
spam
looks like a copy-paste of some other answer to make it seem legitimate
Ah, ok. Flagged.
but actually just spam
lol -10 and deleted in less than a minute
15:37
Yeah, it's a copy-paste of an existing answer with a spam link
@pxeger I believe when I gave feedback to Smokey that included the word "spam", it cast its auto-flags
I have nearly 1.5% of the messages in this room lol
depending on your perspective that's either a sign that you talk too much or not enough
I have 2.2% lol :P
15:41
or that everyone else doesn't talk enough
I wonder which user has the most, over the entire history of TNB
@Mayube I definitely talk too much :p
@Razetime I enjoyed learning a bit of BQN for great good. Would you be interested in nominating it for Language of the Month?
@cairdcoinheringaahing oh boy there's a rabbit hole lmao
@cairdcoinheringaahing My vote's on somebody who's no longer active
15:43
@cairdcoinheringaahing I can check if you want
I have 0.42%
which seems like quite a lot tbh
how d'you see that?
Room info shows the total messages sent here (1.9m) and your messages in the bottom left corner of the room box and your user box
Open your chat profile and it'll show you your total messaages in each room you're in
ah I see
15:45
no downvotes so far... probably time to stop watching :)
Nice, 69% of all my chat messages have been in here :P
nice
@cairdcoinheringaahing the percentage of messages in this room that are by me is pretty close to 0.420%
0.22% here. Which means I've been around for a while, but my messages are all* well thought out and never* spammy. Quality over quantity. ^_^
* all = mostly; never = usually not
0.31%
15:48
If I send just 32 more messages, I'll be 0.419998%
(assuming noone else sends any more in between)
@pxeger guess I'll have to ruin that for ya ;)
Help I accidentally dumped a very large amount of output to my terminal >:|
get a bigger terminal, duh
i can see a series of questions I could ask involving integers
@RedwolfProgrammed just pipe it to /dev/sda kappa
15:50
but I will resist until tomorrow at least :)
While it's still outputting?
How do I do that
SIGINT
I tried all the ctrl key things and none did anything
press Ctrl+Z for SIGSTOP
Windows or Linux?
15:51
sounds like it's time to throw the computer in the trash and get a new one
then type bg > /dev/sda (don't do that lol)
that will destroy your disk
I have 2.487% of all messages (on this account) and 68.476% of mine are in here
@hyper-neutrino you're the only person listed on channel info that has more than caird
Oct 13 at 18:12, by pxeger
I have lost the entire contents of my hard drive
speaking from experience
@hyper-neutrino I have hopefully fixed the question now. Thank you so much for finding the bug before!
15:52
yeah maybe don't pipe arbitrary data directly to your disk, not a great idea
a spaghetto has the most
unless you're trying to wipe the disk
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX is a bad idea ∀ X ∈ {a..z}
> last seen 158d ago
15:53
@pxeger eek!
I win
Followed by Alex. A and Riker
Then Martin Ender then Downgoat
HN's 7th place
caird is 9th
unfortunately I don't think I have any way to search for messages sent by user165474
@pxeger this doesn't work, actually; I think you'd have to do something like ( exec >/dev/null; bg ) &
but if you add those onto mine I wonder if I'm higher up on the list
15:55
I'm 17th
Actually, 14th now
I'd probably be higher if I didn't take an unexpected 2 year break from PPCG
I've passed a bunch of people in the 28ks in the last month
@Mayube mayube, mayube not
very original joke, 10/10
ty
15:57
Mayube, you're 75th place
DLosc, 94th
the hardest part about taking a 2 year break was coming back to find a lot of the 'regulars' I remember from the community are gone
pxeger, 67th
that and not being able to go to ppcg.ml anymore
Oh nice, @Razetime you're 69th place
this whole "where is everyone on the list" thing is just a ruse to give Redwolf an excuse to pad his number
16:00
lol
It'll be a while before I hit 13th
But that's the last few numbers I'll be posting probably, unless other people ask for them
When lyxal wakes up I'll give them theirs
Rankings for most messages in TNB
what's mine?
16:02
@Mayube try cgcc.surge.sh
@pxeger that's so much longer though :(
not if your browser autocompletes it
It's also a rickroll :p
on most devices at this point I can just type co<enter>
I just need the c lol
@Mayube or you can just edit your hosts file (/etc/hosts or C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts)
I find it difficult to get browsers to consistently get 1-character autocomplete correct. The only site that seems to consistently work is youtube.
yeah c is enough to get me to code golf :p on my laptop it's chat.stackexchange.com
w for me autocompletes to www.youtube.com lol
It's wikipedia.org for me
y for youtube.com
@RedwolfProgrammed Same.
16:05
y for me autocompletes to youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ and it makes me so happy
7
wi is wiki.ubuntu.com, for some reason...
I just made codegolf.stackexchanghe.com my new tab page
I actually can't autocomplete to wikipedia.org - e autocompletes to en.wikipedia.org though
@pxeger pretty sure I don't have permission to edit that file on my work laptop
@Mayube you could put it on your bookmarks bar
16:06
@pxeger i don't use bookmarks
@Mayube or set up a pi-hole with that added as a custom dns entry
@Mayube why not lol
l autocompletes to learn.uwaterloo.ca and not leagueoflegends.fandom.com which gives me a marginal amount of self-respect
4
@pxeger This seems very cursed
> ♦ a marginal amount of self-respect
(sorry)
@pxeger because I use different browsers on different devices, and because habit
and because if I bookmarked everything I regularly use I'd spend more time managing bookmarks than it's worth imo
16:08
@RedwolfProgrammed why? it's a pretty simple workaround to not being able to edit your hosts file, because its' essentially the same
@Mayube I only bookmark things that I (a) regularly use and (b) can't autocomplete in my browser
Most of my bookmarks are articles I was going to read between three and five years ago
me: exists
everyone here, apparently: ♦ lol a mod ♦ L ♦
@RedwolfProgrammed my greatest achievement.
@pxeger As do I, which amounts to one bookmark at work for my timesheet, and one at home for tokenstamp
fair enough
16:09
@DLosc sure, I'll make a post for it
I really wish we'd update our VMs at work to Windows Server 2020. I hate having to use chrome and not having WSL :(
...moreso the latter than the former
@Mayube What browser would you rather be using?
Am I the only person who just leaves tabs open on regular pages? I think c autocorrects to CGCC for me, but I just always have a tab open on the site. Same with my OLE for uni, and tnb
@DLosc Edge
@cairdcoinheringaahing I do for email and tnb but that's about it
16:14
@cairdcoinheringaahing I do this for a few sites, but CGCC isn't one of them. I can get there by typing c anyway.
I have 2 windows worth of tabs (I think ~20 tabs total) of sites that I just always have open
my screen real estate is too precious to leave many tabs open
i have an entire window that's just several thousand old cgcc tabs
@Mayube Interesting
..th.. thousand?
16:15
wait no it's only 966 at the moment
@pxeger (and I have 5 screens, 3 of which regularly display browser windows!)
i'm bad at closing them
@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm generally only active on CGCC while I'm at work, and it might raise some questions if my VM is contacting chat.stackexchange.com at 2am :P
My laptop gets slow if I open more than 30 or so tabs, that'd make my laptop unusable
16:16
@UnrelatedString Do you not restart your computer? Or do they just reopen when you turn it on?
@DLosc Vertical tabs, tab groups, and consolidation of spyware
And why not just close the window? And doesn't it slow stuff down?
I have so many questions
What do you mean, "when the computer is off"? :P
i keep my discord alt account and my main two email accounts open as pinned tabs, always have at least one chat window open, and then just whatever i'm working on or intend to look at later
they reopen when i press the restore session button :P
16:17
@RedwolfProgrammed most modern browsers auto-sleep inactive tabs
i've gotten better at closing tabs i don't need :P
it's really satisfying to finish a large assignment or project of some sort and be able to close off like 20 tabs at once finally
@Mayube Yeah sure but...I'd think a thousand of them would still use up a fair amount of resources
@hyper-neutrino I've done that with CGCC challenges before
@hyper-neutrino My coworker called me a psychopath because after solving an issue I closed the 20 or so tabs I had open with right click -> Close tabs to the Right.
He said I was robbing myself of the joy of spamming Ctrl+W
16:18
lol
No, you should actually click the x for each tab
I actually middle mouse click tabs to close them
i'd certainly hope so but my firefox generally uses several times as much ram as everything else anyways
at the very least it does have to store some minimal data for sleeping tabs
@UnrelatedString lemme give you a tutorial: youtu.be/HJkwGlvN21A
@hyper-neutrino I tend to have a separate window for each set of related tabs. So if I've set things up properly, I can just close the window.
16:20
@RedwolfProgrammed in my experience the browser usually reloads the page when opening a sleeping tab, in which case all it would have to store is the info it needs to rebuild the HTTP request
I'm a boring guy:
arstechnica.com/
britishaplassociation.org/
codegolf.stackexchange.com/
duckduckgo.com/
en.wikipedia.org/
fonts.google.com/
github.com/
help.dyalog.com/
imgur.com/
jsoftware.com/
kparc.com/
linkedin.com/
mail.google.com/
news.google.com/
open.kattis.com/
programming-idioms.org/
q (not found, browser suggests some inappropriate Chinese site)
rikedyp.uk/
shapecatcher.com/
tio.run/
us02web.zoom.us/
voice.google.com/
waitrose.com/
xkcd.com/
youtube.com/
zoom.us/
what annoys me is that g autocompletes to google and not github, even though if I wanted to use google I'd just type the query in directly, basically never go to the homepage
and also twitch.tv and twitter.com are far too similar to autocomplete
unfortunate
@pxeger yeah i usually close all tabs to right every month or two
16:24
Some are missing because nothing autocompletes
@hyper-neutrino wait I just realised, you attend UWaterloo? I was looking into going there before we learned that my UK qualifications are too old and I'd basically have to re-take high school here first
are we including auto-complete searches, or just websites?
@cairdcoinheringaahing just websites
redwolf included searches too
'volume of cone' made me chuckle
I'd post mine, but most of them are work related sites, so I'd only be able to show a few anyway
16:27
yeah I'd have to do it at home, and I'll probably forget by the time I get home
@Mayube I am :P damn another person from code golf who I would almost have the chance to meet :P
oh my browser bar gives search suggestions but it doesn't actually autofill the bar with them
@Mayube in that case: ato.pxeger.com/…
like if I type b it gives me the option to search with bing and also shows some searches like "bulletin board man explaining meme" but it won't put them in my URL bar and highlight them like if I type y and get youtube.com
@hyper-neutrino it was between UW and UofT and both had equivalent highschool requirements for their civil engineering courses
> n<redacted>
is there a way to have chrome bookmarks show a different favicon than the one that belongs to the linked site?
> hitler's art
hmmmmmmmmmmm
> blob:null/c9ba4b18-aee5-4fcd-a3e1-0492bca1d3d0
lol
16:30
@hyper-neutrino what of it?
@pxeger no idea why that was the auto-complete, as I've searched that exactly once, last night, when me and my flat were discussing hitler
@cairdcoinheringaahing suuuuure
> unicorn-meta-zoo
Here's mine. @pxeger, you'll be happy to see the result for a ;)
@AaroneousMiller that's Zoe's (new SO mod) blog
16:31
All four of these are blocked on my school's internet :/
to be fair I have a private github repo titled "HitlerPedia". I was planning to make a script that, given a wikipedia page, would find the shortest route to Hitler's page. Never got around to putting any work into it though
Why do people even use pastebin when github gist is available...
@RedwolfProgrammed faster and i don't need to have it around on my account
16:32
@RedwolfProgrammed pastebin doesn't save them
i've been thinking of making my own text sharing thing that's simpler and more suited to my quite limited needs
@hyper-neutrino They aren't private by default for you?
@cairdcoinheringaahing conclusion: very racist, can't make coherent logical arguments, 0/10, wouldn't buy again
@AaroneousMiller set a bookmark to something like data:text/html,<link rel="shortcut icon" src="https://google.com/favicon.ico"><meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;https://example.com/redirect_url">?
@hyper-neutrino I use this, so I can do https://t.pxeger.com/xs.html?t=title+here&v=text+here
extremely simple and robust
(and can be typed out without even visiting another site)
@cairdcoinheringaahing i find it interesting the c autocompletes to the CGCC users page for me
16:35
i also found that intriguing
@pxeger should be <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="https://google.com/favicon.ico"><meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;https://example.com/redirect_url">
wait yeah what
i guess because I normally have a tab open with codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions?tab=Active, so if I'm looking up a specific user or to look for one of their posts, I open a new tab and go to the users page?
ato.pxeger.com
biblegateway.com
codegolf.stackexchange.com
dloscutoff.github.io/Esolangs/BitCycle
en.wikipedia.org
h[something for work that I'm not going to dox here]
github.com/dloscutoff/pip
hirezfox.com/km/co/co1024 [a webcomic]
imdb.com
js1k.com [weird, I've visited that site like twice]
k
lectionary.library.vanderbilt.edu
maps.google.com
n[another work thing]
ozyandmillie.com
precociouscomic.com
qbasic.net
redirect.viglink.com [some redirect thing from a webcomic forum, don't actually go to that URL]
i do also check from time to time how many edits I'm on, but i don't do that that often
16:38
@hyper-neutrino I'm still curious as to what you thought this was lol
it's just work stuff
(omg doxxed, pxeger works for a company beginning with n!!!!1!)
@pxeger It's not like there's an infamous racial slur that also begins with n :P
well true but have you ever heard of a popular website with a racial slur in its name?
yes
depending on how you define "popular"
oh uh ok lol
nothing, just curious why you didn't just exclude it :p also, you have q<redacted>.dev later on - I suppose you didn't include the TLD for n<redacted> to avoid giving away the location?
16:40
@hyper-neutrino didn't really think about it tbh
fair enough
@pxeger I did my EPQ on german nationalism, and part of that was the affect of the internet on the growth of nationalism in youths
@hyper-neutrino but q<redacted>.dev is a secret project that I'm working on and will release soon™ so I can probably cope with the .dev being revealed
@cairdcoinheringaahing curious why you chose that topic in particular. Are you german?
@Mayube they did German A-level IIRC
16:41
ooh new secret project. exciting
@Mayube Nope, but I like Germany and politics is really interesting to me
Plus, I did a German A level,
@pxeger that would make sense. For some reason I have it in my head that caird is welsh. Not sure whether that's actually true or not
It is not
But I think I'm part welsh
maybe it's because your username sounds welsh
a welsh person trying to speak german and vice versa would be quite funny I imagine lol
16:43
@Mayube huh, I've always thought it sounds more irish
it's just generally celtic ig
caird as a last name would be gaelic according to google
The conclusion I'm drawing from all these autocomplete results: Randall Munroe was really smart to pick a webcomic name that starts with an unusual letter.
its name comprises three unusual letters, in fact
@cairdcoinheringaahing Welsh, Gaeilge, Pictish. I could see it sounding like any of them tbh. But I'm also no expert on the history of the british isles pre-romans. My interest there has been largely focused on celtic druids
16:46
@pxeger D is fairly common.
As is C
it was chosen to be unpronounceable, not unusual-in-letter-composition
how much pictish is actually attested
@Adám my brain went "xkckd" lol
16:46
@RedwolfProgrammed challenge accepted
@Mayube I should definitely be a celtic druid, new career plan :P
Now, that's ^^^^^ probably intentional.
@RedwolfProgrammed "iks-d"
@cairdcoinheringaahing Good luck. Druidic practices were passed by oral tradition, and none of it survived the romans
16:47
@RedwolfProgrammed "pxeger" was partly chosen for that reason
@Mayube Then I can just start new practices and claim them as druidic :P
From now on, code golf is officially a druidic practice
Huh, HEIF produces some really cool patterns with the lower bits
Not as good as JPG though
> of the druids' oral literature, not one certifiably ancient verse is known to have survived, even in translation.
16:49
in fact we can't even prove that the druids weren't simply invented by classical writers
@cairdcoinheringaahing so your plan is to be a career code golfer? @Adám, you may finally have a match
xqzj is a nice name…
@Adám Adám is a nice name :)
if I could, I would definitely go into code golfing for money :P
16:50
@Mayube Lots of search algos conflate it with Adam, though :-(
@Adám but it's much more pleasant to the ears
I might just be a second-generation commercial code golfer.
@Adám I'd say that's a good thing, else I'd never spell it right in the TNB chat box. "@Adam"
does it still mention you without the accent?
Yes, @pxegér
One of my father's tasks when he worked at IBM involved golfing a translation table so it could fit in memory.
A few years ago there was a kickstarter for a modern-day NES game. For their backers they sent out the game on physical NES carts, which involved them rigorously "golfing" the game (though admittedly mostly the game's graphical assets) to fit on the NES cart's small storage
16:53
@Adám ooh, how about @Ã̷̛̻͔͍͖̱̮͍͕͖̥̱̦̄́̀̏̎̃̄̚͜͝͠ͅd̵̥̫͙̓̑͐̔̈̎̈́̎͆̀͛̈́͋͜ą̴̫̳̗̖̺̙͚̺̖̥̈́̉̽̌̅͛̽͆̽́ͅm̶̭̔
Nope.
(I'll stop pinging you now)
@pxeger Every time I see excessive diacritics/"zalgo" text I'm just reminded to never use regex to parse html
@Adám probably because of all the zero width joiners and stuff
@pxeger That's ok, I like being pinged; it tickles.
10
16:55
anyone else find this kind of ominous?
Now that you mention it, sort of yeah
@pxeger "I'm afraid I can't do that, pxeger."
@pxeger @Mayube The <center> cannot hold it is too late
@DLosc embarrassing admission; I haven't actually seen 2001: A Space Odyssey :P
heck I hadn't seen Shawshank Redemption until 2 days ago. I'm really not much of a movie person
@Mayube I was referencing this
16:58
OH lol
@Mayube What's the Shawshank Redemption?
(I have seen 2001: A Space Odyssey, and it's a very weird movie. The part with HAL and Dave is the only normal part.)

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