I understand now why golfing languages typically use custom code pages. 96 printable ASCII characters is not a lot to work with when you could have 256 with a custom code page
so if I clearly define a custom code page that maps bytes to characters, then provide a script that converts between uft-8 and my custom code page, is that good enough?
I suppose if I'm using non-ascii characters I'm gunna have to copy-paste anyway, so it doesn't really mattwr
@AaroneousMiller I believe that's how TIO does it, but most languages that use custom code pages read the actual bytes afaik. At least Jelly did last I looked
Randombility of number
Points Rule
5+(1.1)^n If inputted numbers are not in Arithmetic OR Geometric progression for n cnsecutive terms
5+(1.1)^n if inputted numbers are not strictly increasing or decreasing for n>2
5n if number is prime number > 100 here n is number of such terms
-5-(1.1)^n ...
I mean I have to work on my interpreter, so I'd like it to not be cryptic
it's written in JS and it uses a dictionary that maps chars to functions for all instructions. I suppose I could just implement a flag that has it first map source code bytes to utf-8 chars before parsing
@AaroneousMiller Yeah that's probably how I'll do it. Default to UTF-8 but have a flag to read the file with custom codepage and convert to UTF-8 for parsing
Right now though I'm only using about half of the printable ASCII range, so as my boss likes to say; I'll burn that bridge when I get to it
something like that, or maybe have it be like Unreadable where different amounts of 0s separated by 1s are diff operations? some contextual stuff? theres a few options
Somebody in the office is running Slack. I keep hearing the notification sound and it's triggering my anxiety. What's odd is we don't use Slack at this company...
"is it possible to have a charset with characters that are different amounts of bits" no, because 1. the interpreter wouldnt know when to read each length* 2. even if it magically* did, you wouldnt save on size due to [thing i dont know how to phrase]
I meant hypothetically. utf8 uses 8 bits for common english alphanumeric characters, utf16 uses 16 bits for all characters, utf2 uses 2 bits? for I guess 4 characters lol
the thing that made me think of it was uhh, me and some folks in a server were trying to figure out a set of operations to make any tree, and we came up with like 1. add a node here and move the pointer into it and 2. exit the current pointer
those of course map to
1. ( 2. )
and the fact that those arent just 1 bit hit me like hmm i wonder if we could be saving bytes here
@thejonymyster Unicode has room for over a million characters, but rather than having a fixed-with encoding they are encoded with variable numbers of bits
im thinking something like char that says were going to make a tree so start reading chars in binary some chars that encode the tree shape in binary, then when thats done stop reading binary, chars that determine what goes in each leaf
sorry i took so long to get to the point im like at work lol
I don't think it would be hard for the parser to handle that offset, but I think you'd need to pad the file to the nearest byte for the filesystem's sake
Question for people who know Jelly: Are the chaining rules good? i.e. if I made a tacit language, should I do the chaining differently, or try to mimic Jelly?
@Neil Unicode has room for over a million characters. Everything else you said is a property of UTF-8 (and some similar encodings), not of Unicode itself
Input
4 integers w, x, y, z. They can be positive or negative and will be less than 1048576 in absolute value.
Output
The general solution to the equation.
\$ aw+bx+cy+dz = 0 \$.
The variables \$a, b, c, d\$ must all be integer values.
Output format
Your output should consist of three tuples each...
what's up with this? I know there's some circuitry related challenges with atomic-golf and the like, but this doesn't look like anything to me? I don't understand the notation and it looks like broken ascii art, and I don't know if thats my fault or not haha
also it says "citcuit" which i know now is a typo, but i don't think "circuit" is actually more informative to edit it to
yeah... I don't know that we have a precedence for accepting actual electrical circuits as answers, maybe in very specific scenarios. But even if we accept it for what it is, it's not a valid answer. A truth machine when given an input of 0 should output 0 once then terminate. If the LED being on is endlessly outputting 1, then the LED being off would be endlessly outputting 0
question: braingolf v2 is not a new version of the language, just a new interpreter for the language. However it fixes a lot of bugs and inconsistent behavior from the old interpreter, and as a result can achieve much golfier results by virtue of not having to waste bytes working around the issues the old interpreter has. Would it be fair of me to update some of my past braingolf answers with golfier versions that work in v2, or would it be better for me to post them as separate answers, or separate solutions within the same answer?
@Skidsdev There are some challenges that take circuits as answers, but those are typically something along the lines of simulating some function using gates, and is scored by the number of gates. The first one that comes to mind is this one.
@thejonymyster But that's the thing, it's not a different language, it's just a new interpreter. This isn't like going from Python 2 to Python 3, it's like going from Python3 with CPython to Python3 with PyPy
I don't see why you can't go back and update your old answers. Vyxal has changed a lot since its inception, and a lot of the old answers have been updated to work with a new interpreter and even a vastly different codepage.
@AaroneousMiller If somebody complains, then you can just do something different, no big deal. If you want, I suppose you can also ask about it on meta, after all, that's what it's there for.
Yeah I'll update answers where the v1 answer works in v2. If I come across a case where the v1 answer doesn't work in v2, I'll keep both solutions in the same answer.
would "your output must be a valid input to the program" ever be an interesting restriction? i know it wouldn't make sense to just use randomly, so i wonder if theres a particularly good context for it
I'm kind of concerned by the number of times my teachers said "PTSD" instead of "PSAT" by mistake. Like, I know proctoring a test is probably boring, but...
@hyper-neutrino The format of your output should be 3 tuples (#,#,#,#), (#,#,#,#), (#,#,#,#). We can assume three free variables n0, n1 and n2 and so (a,b,c,d) = (#,#,#,#)n0 + (#,#,#,#)n1 + (#,#,#,#)n2. In
if you look at my test suite I pick any three random values for n0, n1, n2 and set a,b,c,d = n0*first_tuple + n1*second_tuple + n2*third_tuple and assert that aw+bx+cy+dz=0 which works
@LordlyAmigo I'd be more flexible on the scrolling rate, get rid of the bonuses (see this), and maybe limit the character set to uppercase alphabet + spaces or something. Also, for unicode challenges it's a good idea to either allow using different (ASCII) characters, or allow people to count those as 1 byte in the source code, or both.
@LordlyAmigo this idea is really old and the poster hasn't been online in too long. might be worth a repost? i don't think OP will be back to post it to main or to give permission to take the idea and IDK what the policy for taking challenge ideas from users that have abandoned SE is
@hyper-neutrino No, but a human probably knows a lot more about anthropology than a particle, so presumably you would know at least as much as most human particle physicists about that sort of thing :p
nah, that's where the name came from in the first place. A friend was drunk and typo'd "maybe" as "mayube" and I joked that it sounded like an anime character and changed my discord name to "Mayube-san" and it stuck :P
@hyper-neutrino iirc, policy is you leave a comment giving them 14 days to respond, and if they dont reply you can just take it due to how licensing works
however, you might be able to say something in meta about getting it sooner due to user inactivity, esp. since the 14 day thing is more of a courtesy thing from what i saw?
monkey brain was like "hmmm bug is not a bug, could not reproduce a bug, therefore no repro" even though very clearly the behavior is right there just not a bug since it is by design :P
Randombility of number
Points Rule
5+(1.1)^n If inputted numbers are not in Arithmetic OR Geometric progression for n cnsecutive terms
5+(1.1)^n if inputted numbers are not strictly increasing or decreasing for n>2
5n if number is prime number > 100 here n is number of such terms
-5-(1.1)^n ...
