@RedwolfPrograms On the other hand, Mt. Everest is 5/5 despite higher than average mortality the year of the review.

How comes Mt. Everest has only 2 reviews and K2 has 4336 reviews‽

The lowest reviews of K2 are hilarious.

Does anyone have a copy of TNB's whole transcript, or a large part of it, downloaded?

no

github.com/elendiastarman/tnbde

Actually, I've got a script working to download it myself now

I'll probably only want 10k or so messages for this project anyway

Just made a list of 10k chat messages in like 10s lol

I guess I'll download 100k

1933370 to go.

Okay, got 100k

1833372 to go.

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced I see where you're coming from--a lot of people across the site's history have felt that way--but I'm arguing that that's a category error.

From the perspective of Code Golf, different languages can't meaningfully compete with each other*, so using a golflang doesn't constitute an unfair advantage because you're not competing against solutions in other languages. From the perspective of Language Golf, creating golflangs is the whole point of the game.

* Sure, it would be nice to get shortest answer in a code-golf challenge using Python, but the existence of Perl, Ruby, Haskell, J, and APL pretty well squashes that possibility. So Python golfers really have no choice but to focus on beating other Python solutions (and get an occasional thrill from outgolfing Perl).

@Bubbler Quipu is insane, then. When it does arithmetic operations, it doesn't pop the operands, it just pushes the result value. (Granted, it's not exactly stack-based even though it uses stacks under the hood.)

I keep using elif instead of elsei and wondering why everything is breaking. It's happened about 5 times now in the last 10 minutes, so you'd think I would have learned by now. :/

What language uses elsei?

Vim

Oh huh

technically it's elseif, but it can be shortened to elsei

I don't know why I keep doing that, since I haven't used a language that uses elif for months

I'm surprised my potato of a chromebook is fine with me having a single chrome tab using 400 MiB of RAM for downloading all of TNB

it's using that cloud RAM

Download finished!

Oh lol it used so much RAM the linux VM got killed

@Adám A€Ꭽⵖߒ🜱₽₾𞤵₿Ბ𐿣𑤁𒾑 (I think)

I doubt there's any font that can render all of those.

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@Adám That's why the results are skewed. Only the people who made it back alive can post a review.

@DLosc It was interesting to see the trickle of new currency signs being added over time.

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nuke pls

Codidact now has reactions! meta.codidact.com/posts/284455

@AaronMiller 💣💥👍

@DLosc 👍

Introducing: Talk with TNB! A program that uses TNB's transcript to generate the average reponse to anything you say

It's dead accurate

@RedwolfPrograms average?

It picks a random response to a message as close as possible to what you typed in

hmm, ok

i want

how does it handle messages like "hmm, ok"?

H: hmm, ok
B: just in case you were interested, <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/MS1fX.jpg" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Raiden dialogues</a>. Dropping this here only because it is quite odd.

It needs some work still

:p

so it's GPTNB

we need a room with that as a bot

and it just replies to anything anybody says

Improved:

I have saved us all from the robots, by the way

I'll go ahead and upload it

Just a warning: It's super slow

how did it pick up like the one message SPArcheon sent in here

Now Live!

TIL chrome://inducebrowsercrashforrealz/ exists IF YOU VISIT IT WILL CRASH CHROME unless ur on ddg or ff or w/e then i dont care what u do

chrome://dino also exists which is cool

well shoot that didnt work

@cairdcoinheringaahing for Flatten the CUBE, what would happen here? According to the spec, it would go down at the 'v' and then go to the left, but there's nothing there.

pointer is starting in the top left

Guys, I just found out how to do perpetual motion!!!

uh oh

O.O

H: How to do perpetual motion?
B: moving or staying still

\o/

I'm running it with TNB's whole history and oh boy is it slow

About 5m to respond to a longer message

There are around half a million replies it had to choose from, and each one involves calculating levenshtein distance

Okay using an actual levenshtein distance library has made is unbelievably fast

Okay this is actually getting really cool

You: No links here
TNB: or is this an april's fool's joke too ?
You: Could be a rickroll
TNB: [hyper]link.
You: :p
TNB: Are you going to restart your chatbot?
You: Not until I get home
TNB: I've got a probably (?) working language availability snippet for your challenge, how should I send it to you?
You: Post it as an answer I guess?
TNB: Please don't answer... I need that bounty and the street cred... (semi-joke)
You: Oh, do y'all have the same answer
TNB: yes, I made it
You: smh, don't let them take credit for your work :p

It actually seems like a real conversation

Aside from the broken formatting

What's up with the "you" vs "TNB"?

"You" is what I wrote, "TNB" is what it responded with

It's honestly so easy to pretend it's real

Aside from it occasionally saying something totally stupid that doesn't make sense, as long as you keep your messages short you can get a pretty good idea of what TNB's really like

I'll publish it soon, I just need to get some bugs ironed out

@RedwolfPrograms ur overcomplicating this way too much

Just remake GPT and train it with TNB transcript smh

that is what TNB's really like tho

This conversation looks...real

The part about diep.io is insanely realistic, especially considering how out of context that "misspelt by one letter" part is, despite it making perfect sense there

CMP: Should I keep the real names of the users, or use the "TNB" placeholder instead?

Depending on where the text is coming from, having a bunch of user's names might break the flow of the conversation

Here's a snippet with the usernames:

You: Afternoon!
Helka Homba: [random friendly sentence]
You: What's happening?
El'endia Starman: ...stuff.
You: Oh lol
DJMcMayhem: are you sure neovim comes default on Yosemite? That doesn't sound right to me, and I can't find any info about it online
You: I can't imagine neovim would...maybe normal vim
Alex A.: I've actually had good tofu cheesecake at a local Chinese restaurant
You: That sounds gross
zyabin101: ohai @Quill
You: Hi @Quill!
Quill: yo
You: What brings you to TNB?
Mithical: I was following the trail of an upvote. ;)

It actually makes it pretty immersive

Make much more sense now. I was trying to read is a dialogue, and that didn't work well.

@RedwolfPrograms What happens if you only give it a seed message and let it respond to itself?

Oh, then it chooses the actual reply, I guess.

I'll try that

So far, seems like nothing of interest happens

Either they'll jump randomly between disconnected messages, or they'll recite conversations exactly as they occured in TNB

You: Opinions on politics?
Bubbler: I don't have any onions right now
flawr: go get a new one=)
Dennis: Considering that three of the four answers use the closed form, that's certainly an option.
Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ: you're like xnor but purple
quartata: But I was serious....
quartata: Is that you @Geobits?
Geobits: It's either me or the dog. Probably me.
trichoplax: I run python 3 through pypy...
QPaysTaxes: It's supposedly super incomplete.
trichoplax: I can't get PIL to work with it, but I haven't seen any other problems. Haven't done a great deal though

aaron suggested a room with a bot that does this; any interest in doing that?

I could probably set one up, yeah

I'm still working on getting a good balance between realism and speed

I've shortened the startup time from nearly 10m to 20s or so!

otoh, TNB conversations aught to be 100% on topic here, no?

… I mean, 'cause if they're not…

Okay what...this is crazy

[user 1]: Yeah, about halfway through sophmore year.
You: No way, same here!
[user 2]: :P
You: Well, of high school. Not sure if you're in college.
[user 2]: I believe [user 1] is in high school

Okay, I think I'm ready to release this.

I'm trying to upload it to google drive but it's not working >:|

@RedwolfPrograms what the heck are you doing?

Working on something that uses TNB's transcripts to generate somewhat realistic replies to things you type in

(Oops, did one of the code blocks ping you by mistake?)

Okay, here's the script: gist.github.com/RedwolfPrograms/…

And the file you'll need (80 MiB uncompressed): github.com/RedwolfPrograms/talk-with-tnb/blob/main/…

:o

I just answered myself

zyabin101: The <center> cannot hold it is too late.
You: Using <center> is kind of outdated, right?
Redwolf Programs: I don't think it is, I think it's not recommended in HTML5 and there wasn't flexbox prior to that

@Adám It's funny, but it'd become noise after a while

@lyxal Joke's on you, we're all actually zombies who live only to feast on brains bytes

@DLosc Yes, it's a good thing all of us realize how dangerous COVID vaccines and 5G are

^ Please take this 100% guaranteed safe remedy instead of the Pfizer-more-like-pffftizer vaccine

@user too late idiot I had it yesterday

Oh no, have you become a zombie yet?

@hyper-neutrino yes

@user no

Good, I guess your not being human has saved you

Exactly

Here's a GolfScript answer posted just yesterday: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/235960

The dark arts are being practiced again :P

If y'ain't using golfscript in 2021, then can you really call yourself a gamer? /s

@RedwolfPrograms wow people actually write sensible reviews on Google maps?

Impossible

Exhibit A:

This review has 8k views and 2 likes on Google maps

And it's for a university

Exhibit B: all the reviews on the rickroll bridge when it was still a place on google maps

There wasn't a single non-meme review

Hence, it's practically impossible for sensible reviews to exist on Google maps /s

> $-1= "Sort and get last element, aka max"

It still shocks me that a golfing language takes 4 bytes to get the max of an array

It also had multi-character names iirc

Yep, while, do, if, etc.

I'm sure it was revolutionary in its time, but looking at it now, it looks unusable both as a practical language and a golfing language

Regarding ^, I think high effort answers that just aren't golfed definitely deserve leniency, but I think they should be deleted if the answerer doesn't respond at all or expresses that they don't want to golf their code after ~3-5 days