The Nineteenth Byte

Jo King

16:00

i don't think australia uses the word "crisps" (except perhaps if you burn your food). we pretty much call everything chips

Aaron Miller

Where I'm from, we call chips "chips" and crisps "crisps".

pxeger

at least I don't call all biscuits cookies

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing idk about weird, but it's tasty af

@pxeger wdym, we had Seabiscuit

Aaron Miller

@Dudecoinheringaahing I've never thought of ranch as ubiquitous or uniquely American, but now that I have, I can agree. But not weird. I agree with user on that.

Homemade ranch is especially good

Redwolf Programs

@exedraj Sure does, it looks like you're looking at the edges of a box from the corner, and there's a smaller one inside

pxeger

16:08

@user but cookies ⊂ biscuits

user

Look, maybe that's how it works in England, but in the US, we can make our own definitions

British English != American English

Dude coinheringaahing

Tbcf, I don;t like mayonnaise, so liking ranch was never really a possibility for me :P

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, try to make us use your definitions and we'll board your ships and dump a bunch of cookies in the boston harbor :p

user

America is biscuit = cookie land

pxeger

@Dudecoinheringaahing I don't like vinegar (except in S&V crisps) so it definitely isn't lol

Dude coinheringaahing

16:09

@user I believe that's Article 1 of the Constitution, word for word :P

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing You don't like mayo? :o

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Mayo is disgusting

Aaron Miller

I've had shots of vinegar.

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing We all know the colonies freed themselves because of the UK's intolerable definitions of cookies and biscuits

@Dudecoinheringaahing So are you, mayo-hater.

Aaron Miller

mayo = yes

Dude coinheringaahing

16:11

What's worse is that, for some goddamn reason, every prepackaged sandwich and every burger has mayo as a default, meaning it's impossible to get a good sandwich on a roadtrip

user

Good, you must learn to love it

Aaron Miller

Mayonnaise is savory pudding. Change my mind.

pxeger

@Dudecoinheringaahing well don't go on "roadtrips" then, go on "car journies" instead! lmao

user

Mayo is the second most important thing for a sandwich, right after salt

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Bread?

pxeger

16:12

@user what in the goddamn actual fuck

user

@pxeger Car stumble?

@Dudecoinheringaahing Bread ain't that tasty

@pxeger wdym

pxeger

@Dudecoinheringaahing you can have sandwiches made of other things, like crackers or whatever

Aaron Miller

@user bruh

pxeger

@user salt?

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Maybe not, but it's pretty integral to sandwiches :P

pxeger

16:12

what kind of sandwich has extra salt in it?

user

Salt is the salt of the earth

@pxeger Mine

Dude coinheringaahing

@pxeger Chicken sandwiches

user

I once ate half a bowl of salt because it tasted so good

(nearly puked later though)

pxeger

@user but the things you tend to put in sandwiches (cheese, preserved meats, mayo) tend to have a fair bit of salt in them already

Dude coinheringaahing

Salt does taste nice, but I've never gone that far :P

pxeger

16:13

@user what sized bowl are we talking here

user

Yes, and I make them saltier using extra salt

@pxeger idk, 1.5 cups maybe

Aaron Miller

*Has salt*
*Seasons it with salt*

Dude coinheringaahing

What is wrong with you?

pxeger

@user UK cups or US cups? :þ

user

US

idk what UK cups are

@Dudecoinheringaahing Everything.

pxeger

16:14

that's about 350 ml of salt

you should have died

I don't believe you

user

Wait what

Dude coinheringaahing

@user "cups" is how british people pronounce "cops" :P

pxeger

unless it was... watered-down salt

@Dudecoinheringaahing depends on the person lol, have you ever spoken to someone from Derby?

Dude coinheringaahing

@pxeger Starting your day with a pint of saltwater is a healthy alternative to living :P

@pxeger God no :P

pxeger

(by watered-down I mean mixed with some other seasoning or something)

user

16:16

@pxeger It was about this big

Dude coinheringaahing

How did you not die?

user

idk the scale of that image actually

@Dudecoinheringaahing It must have been smaller then /shrug

It's been a while, maybe I blew it up in my mind

Jo King

woah, that's like bowling ball size

user

Okay I underestimated the scale then

pxeger

@user how long is a piece of string?

user

16:17

I have a similar bowl at home, I will measure it and come back

pxeger

3 mins ago, by pxeger

I don't believe you

user

@pxeger Depends on the length of the string?

pxeger

@user ...depends on the scale of the image

Aaron Miller

A piece of string is exactly this long.

user

1 min ago, by user

Okay I underestimated the scale then

idk how much it was exactly, but it was an amount that was big enough to make a child nearly puke but not die. I will need to experiment a bit

pxeger

16:22

@user about a sixteenth of a teaspoon would do that for me

tjjfvi

@Dudecoinheringaahing Maybe they died and now they're some kind of salt zombie

Dude coinheringaahing

@pxeger That's quite a low tolerance

1/16 of a teaspoon is probably less salt than you'd add in a "pinch of salt"

@tjjfvi @user Can you confirm/deny this? :P

pxeger

@Dudecoinheringaahing 1/16 of a teaspoon is 0.68mm, cubed, and (according to Google), about 0.375g

which, eaten completely on its own, is maybe not enough

Dude coinheringaahing

Yeah, that's like 1 grain of salt :P

pxeger

maybe

this is a child we're talking about

Dude coinheringaahing

16:25

thf tho, I don't think user was just sat there with a bowl and shoveling teaspoons of salt into their mouth. It's probably more likely that they ate it over a long period of time, using the "wet your finger, touch the salt, lick it off" method

which is how I for one eat the left over salt/sugar when I make popcorn

pxeger

irregardless, I don't believe they ate 1.5 US cups of salt unless it was over several weeks at the very least

"irregardless" is my favourite non-word

Dude coinheringaahing

Personally, I prefer "nonirregardlessly" :P

Aug 6 at 23:59, by Dude coinheringaahing

CMM: Should we start the first Learn-A-Lang event soon? If so, when and what should the format/language be?

Avi reminded me of this earlier; it appears from the meta post that we want to do this. What should the next step be? A meta post saying "this will do starting on X, please nominate languages below"? Or should I just go ahead and schedule it and we vote on languages closer to the time in chat?

Aaron Miller

@Dudecoinheringaahing I think they sat on the couch watching tv and eating salt like popcorn.

pxeger

@Dudecoinheringaahing I'm still not sold on the voting thing

Dude coinheringaahing

@pxeger How so?

pxeger

16:31

it seems like it will inevitably lead to the most popular languages being chosen, which really isn't what we want

tjjfvi

@pxeger Say that the most popular one will be chosen, and then use the one with the median number of votes

Redwolf Programs

@pxeger We want the languages that people want to learn most, so that works, right?

Dude coinheringaahing

Or we could ask people to vote for languages they'd like to learn?

Ignore me, Redwolf said it better :P

pxeger

@tjjfvi but you've just told them that!

@RedwolfPrograms but I think people will also vote for the languages that they want other people to learn, as well

Dude coinheringaahing

If we have a poll being "Please nominate and vote for languages that you'd like to learn, rather than languages you already know", I think it's likely to work

Redwolf Programs

16:35

^

pxeger

I think there needs to be, at least, a downvote option

if not the ability to vote multiple times

Redwolf Programs

Maybe it should be a meta post

pxeger

so chat stars won't work

Dude coinheringaahing

You can absolutely vote multiple times, no matter the system. Meta post would be the only system that allows downvotes

pxeger

multiple times on the same post

or to half-upvote

which, I suppose, is equivalent

Dude coinheringaahing

16:36

@pxeger Wouldn't that just lead to people spam-voting on ones they want?

tjjfvi

Ranked-choice instant runoff?

pxeger

upto a limit

@tjjfvi that's the kind of system I was thinking of, at least

Redwolf Programs

Cumulative voting?

We get x votes and can distribute them how we want?

pxeger

you can only vote as many times in total as there are options, but you can vote twice on X instead of once on X and once on Y

or proportional to the number of options or something

Redwolf Programs

Let's just do a meta poll

pxeger

16:38

but you should be able to vote somewhere fewer than that many times, and only upto K times per option

Dude coinheringaahing

Yeah, anything else seems to either be too complicated, or not cater to enough voting freedom

Redwolf Programs

It works fine with LotM, so it'll work for this

Dude coinheringaahing

I'll start writing it up

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms well tbh I think LotM has the same problems: to some extent, the most popular languages get voted on higher

Dude coinheringaahing

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/128500/name-of-new-chat-event

Please vote, or nominate if you don't like any of them

tjjfvi

16:44

(all of the "learn a" variations sound like github.com/lerna/lerna to me)

Redwolf Programs

I like either one of the learn-a-lang variants, or one of the bottom three. "Lang of the week" is too similar to LotM imo

pxeger

what do we do in case of a tie?

Dude coinheringaahing

I'll be happy to cast a tiebreaker vote :P

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user

17:19

@Dudecoinheringaahing Welp, I just asked my mom, and apparently, not only did I eat something else with the salt, I didn't finish it

pxeger was right lol

pxeger

@tjjfvi that's quite a niche tool and fairly unrelated in this context, and spelt differently so I don't think it will really matter

Dude coinheringaahing

@user We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed and we've been quite possibly bamboozled! :P

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing ~~Iii neeeed salllted brainnns~~ So I must deny this completely

tjjfvi

@pxeger Agreed

Dude coinheringaahing

@tjjfvi I know that "bootstrap" is actual programming lingo, but I always think of "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" or "Bootstrap Bill Turner" when I see it :/

pxeger

17:25

@Dudecoinheringaahing well it means a similar thing to "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" - basically to get a project started

tjjfvi

@Dudecoinheringaahing According to my grandpa, the term "bootstrap" in programming originated from "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps"

& "boot"ing

user

@tjjfvi I've heard the same thing (from some article, not from your grandpa, I mean)

Adám

@tjjfvi Yup, can confirm based on what my father told me too, and he was actually there when it all happened.

user

Is tjjfvi your son? :P

Adám

I don't think so. But my sons are not in my view right now, so they might be here chatting…

tjjfvi

17:28

shhhh

Dude coinheringaahing

@tjjfvi Can you name 3 commands in APL? :P

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Although a related question to ask would be, @Adám can your sons name 3 commands in APL? :P

tjjfvi

@Dudecoinheringaahing Nope, never used it

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing I'll get back to you on that.

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing Knowing Adám's devotion to APL, they probably learned it before walking/talking :P

Dude coinheringaahing

@tjjfvi Who needs genetic testing when you can just use APL? :P

user

17:31

Aug 8 at 18:22, by ngn

so, users here fall in two broad categories "Adam, and the rest" :)

If you don't know APL, you are a confirmed non-Adám, although if you do, further testing may be needed to confirm what you are

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing Or even better, use APL for genetic testing.

Dude coinheringaahing

@Adám I'm surprised that isn't called "The APL never falls far from the tree" :P

user

I'd make a joke about the APL falling far from the k tree, but it's the other way around :P

Dude coinheringaahing

This is an interesting proposal from 2012 - give mods the ability to route a tag into a review queue where good and bad questions can be sorted out prior to tag burnination

user

Just deleted my first question!

~~Feels so good to destroy someone else's work~~

Dude coinheringaahing

17:40

@user Well, when it's at -10 and closed, it;s a good excuse to do so :P

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing Aaron says ⍺ ⍵ + ⍳ /

rak1507

do ⍺ and ⍵ count as 'commands'?

+⍳ and / probably do so he passes, just :P

Adám

In APL lingo, commands are only things like )clear and ]display but whatever…

rak1507

true

would have been impressed if he'd got 3 of those

Aaron Miller

@Adám ~~Wait, I'm your son?~~

user

17:52

The apple has fallen far from the tree, then. From APL to Vyxal...

Adám

@AaronMiller No, you'd be Mr. Miller's son.

@user ?

user

Adám so your last name is Miller now, huh

Dude coinheringaahing

@Adám Aaron Miller uses Vyxal rather than APL

user

^

Aaron Miller

^

user

17:53

It was a joke assuming Aaron Miller was your son

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing ⍨ We should fix that.

My work here isn't complete until everyone uses APL ;-)

rak1507

if one of your children said they preferred vyxal to APL, how quickly would they be disowned?

tjjfvi

@rak1507 Look how quickly he disowned me :P

Adám

@rak1507 By the very statement, they'd already not be my children, so no need to explicitly disown them.

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rak1507

lol

user

18:01

Remember kids, if someone offers you a tacit golflang, say no

Aaron Miller

*Implements tacit flag in Vyxal*

Dude coinheringaahing

18:14

(I couldn't find a good icon for Jelly beyond the JHT one)

Adám

But, but, APL and J are not golfing langs.

@Dudecoinheringaahing I think there once was some discussion here of a Jelly logo.

Dude coinheringaahing

Nov 30 '17 at 16:06, by Pavel

^ Proposed Jelly logo, by Adám

Adám

Feb 12 '18 at 21:09, by Dennis

@Adám Would it be possible to spell JELLY with these, preferably on a transparent background? I think that would make a really cool logo.

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing Wait, are J and Dyalog supposed to be tacit golflangs?

Aaron Miller

9 mins ago, by Adám

But, but, APL and J are not golfing langs.

Dude coinheringaahing

18:24

@user According to meta, yes :P

user

._.

pxeger

18:54

@Adám "all users leaving" satisifies those conditions...

tjjfvi

Does anyone know the maximum answer size? This meta answer says 30k chars, but the comments below it link to many answers above that "limit"

dzaima

@tjjfvi IIRC at some point the limit was raised to 65k

Aaron Miller

That moment when you're the 6969th upvote.

tjjfvi

@dzaima This answer (the largest on cgcc) is 65.48k...

But if it's at least 65k, that'll be fine

dzaima

@tjjfvi well, 65536 (±some, idk)

tjjfvi

19:08

Oh, duh

user

@pxeger He said "everyone," not "everyone in TNB"

Adám is on a mission to convert the whole universe into APLers :P

pxeger

fine, "the entire universe imploding" does then

Wezl

insert APL code in corona vaccines

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Redwolf Programs

Adám plans to kill everyone on the planet, and spare only the APL users

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Q: Language nominations for the "Learn You a Lang for Great Good" chat event

We've decided we'd like to give the "Learn You a Lang for Great Good" chat event \${}^*\$ a go. As a brief overview, this event would be: For around an hour (or as long as participants want) every two weeks, discussion in The Nineteenth Byte is primarily about a specific programming language. Th...

user

19:16

It'd be easier to just nuke everyone, much harder to build bunkers for a very small group of people

Wezl

the sparing everyone is not on purpose, it's just that using APL builds an immunity to radiation (among other things)

Dude coinheringaahing

@AviFS Nominations for languages has been posted :)

Redwolf Programs

@Wezl That means anti-vaxxers and covid-disbelievers escape the APL

Those are concerningly large groups

Wezl

*shrug* create a more violent strain of coronavirus or something

user

What has Adám done?!

@Wezl ಠ_ಠ

Aaron Miller

19:20

@user He won.

Wezl

@NewPosts I'd say CHIQRSX9+ but I kind of just a little bit care about my reputation

I mean reputation the thing not the ~~currency~~ thing

Aaron Miller

> time raisins

Aaron Miller

19:48

> time reeasons

hyper-neutrino

@user i can help with that

Dude coinheringaahing

20:06

Thoughts on a chat-events tag? There are at least 4 applicable questions, and potentially more

emanresu A

Idk

Aaron Miller

Seems like a good idea to me

New Posts

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Q: Build the widest bridge with nothing but frictionless blocks

In this challenge you must write a computer program that creates a stack of a thousand identical \$1 \times 1\$ frictionless homogeneous blocks such that each block is supported and the stack is stable under gravity when placed on the edge of a table which spans from \$x = -\infty\$ to \$0\$ hori...

code-challenge geometry

emanresu A

@AaronMiller They have been nuked

Cupcakes Delivered, 327 North Road, Caulfield South, Victoria, Australia 3162

1 1

Redwolf Programs

Probably don't post it here, you're giving them exactly what they want (advertising and SEO)

I'd just mod flag one of your posts with a link

Dude coinheringaahing

20:17

(feel free to correct me hyper if not) Just a reminder that if you post them in hyper's domain (within a reasonable amount), he'll probably take care of them :)

emanresu A

Ok

I have a couple more

try searching up 'Buy' and you'll see what I mean

tjjfvi

20:49

It seems that the poster of this deadline-less bounty hasn't been active in around a year. Could someone with sufficient rep edit the post with a disclaimer? ( or perhaps someone with sufficient rep could adopt the bounty ;) )

Redwolf Programs

The Mod/Staff things are less saturated now

Anyone else notice that?

Adám

> Update: As can be seen on this post and elsewhere on the site, the styling for the mod/staff labels has been modified, and hopefully will not pop out and be as overwhelming as the original colors. Big thanks to Aaron Shekey and Ben Kelly for finding a great solution here.

source

Dude coinheringaahing

21:26

@RedwolfPrograms Yep :P

Huh, I just got Announcer, and I have no idea where I have a link to that post

@Dudecoinheringaahing Apparently, this is the only link I have to that, huh

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing Could there not be off-site links?

Dude coinheringaahing

I don;t think I've ever mentioned Jelly offsite

user

21:50

@Dudecoinheringaahing Could someone get that directly with Tor?

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Probably, tho that seems like overkill for a badge

user

Installs Tor :P

Is it just me, or have the default/unicorn pfp's on Codidact been replaced with "user card" or "user avatar"?

Dude coinheringaahing

Oh cool, with that badge, the only bronze badge that I'm missing (that I can get) is Revival

user

That sounds very possible if you FGITW something that was closed for a month

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Yeah, I think they've broken

user

21:53

I wish they'd at least waffles as a backup :/

Dude coinheringaahing

@user At some point, I'll answer something that's unanswered, but that often requires more effort than FGITWing new posts :P

user

> often

At this point, it's practically always

Gone are the days when unanswered questions roamed freely: now, only the toughest ones are left, with the easy game picked off by careless hunters

Dude coinheringaahing

There are around 70 unanswered questions :P

speaking of, I have a bounty to award to this one

user

Gotta love it when a random dollar sign makes the site think it's MathJax despite it being inside ```

@Dudecoinheringaahing Far too few. Soon, they'll go extinct...

Neil

CMC: How long is a piece of string? Given a string, output the average length of its distinct nontrivial proper substrings. You can assume that the string's length is at least 2.

e.g. aabb has the substrings a b aa ab bb aab abb for an average length of 2

Dude coinheringaahing

22:15

@Neil Jelly, 8 bytes: ŒPṖḊQẈÆm

rak1507

surprisingly long

in an ideal golflang it would probably be 'average length each unique substrings' so really 5 bytes

Dude coinheringaahing

"substrings" is "powerset", but "nontrivial proper" means that you have to remove the empty one, and the one equal to the input (in Jelly, that's pop and deque).

It literally translates to "powerset; pop; deque; unique; lengths; mean"

rak1507

ah

Dude coinheringaahing

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a language where it's less than 6 bytes, because that'd either require non-empty powerset, or proper powerset to be a 1 byte builtin

rak1507

yeah 6 is probably the limit without something more devious

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

display a number in toki pona toki pona is a constructed language with 137ish words, designed to constrain the speaker to expressing ideas in a simple and straightforward manner, reducing ideas to more essential forms. often, people attempt to avoid directly expressing numeric quantities in toki ...

exedraj

@RedwolfPrograms don't forget to award your other bounty that expires in 3 hours :P here

Bubbler

@Neil VTC: It is an unfair measure; you should count duplicates and the whole string too :P

exedraj

@Neil Vyxal, 7 bytes: ṗUḢṪvLṁ

Neil

@Bubbler sorry, but I'm only interested in the length of a piece

I feel that two identical substrings can't count as different pieces

and the string can't count as a piece of itself

and a piece can't be empty either

exedraj

22:58

@exedraj ḢṪ can be replaced with uŻ for an alternate 7 bytes.

tjjfvi

23:13

@exedraj How do you reply to yourself? It wasn't giving me the option earlier

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

SKI calculus golf: Hello, World! atomic-code-golf combinatory-logic hello-world Background SKI combinator calculus, or simply SKI calculus, is a system similar to lambda calculus, except that SKI calculus uses a small set of combinators, namely S, K, and I instead of lambda abstraction. Unlike la...

exedraj

@tjjfvi you get the link of the message you're replying to and remove everything before the hash

Then you replace the hash with a colon

Dude coinheringaahing

@tjjfvi If you use userscripts, this works

exedraj

@exedraj https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/58872176#58872176 -> #58872176 -> :58872176

@tjjfvi like ^

Dude coinheringaahing

You can get the link by clicking the down arrow to the left of the message (next to the user icon) and clicking "permalink"

exedraj

23:25

Or if you're on mobile, you tap on the message, then hold down on the icon that looks like a link and you copy the address

Dude coinheringaahing

The fact that we know that is evidence that we spend far too much time in chat :P

exedraj

Probably :p

But at least when people say I should be spending time with my friends, I can say that I already am

3

user

A rare wholesome moment for TNB

Dude coinheringaahing

Either that or lyxal's being sad :P

exedraj

It's a wholesome big chungus moment

Who tf needs irl friends when there's 15 friends here who share the same common interest in golfing code to obscene levels?

user

23:33

@exedraj I'd star this too, but the starboard is a mess already :P

Dude coinheringaahing

@exedraj I'd argue that New Posts, Sandbox Posts and Catija aren't too interested in golfing tbh :P

exedraj

hey stop trying to minimise my friend count! ;P

user

@exedraj I mean, it's always good to have friends if you're an action hero in a movie where the government is after you and you need a reliable friend to get you weapons and other supplies and some more friends so you can rob a bank to uncover evidence implicating a villain that you will track down using your other hacker friend and then trap with your strong friend and then present them to the police and get exonerated with the help of your police friend, but I see what you mean

Dude coinheringaahing

I've still not convinced that Catija doesn't hang out here in order to keep an eye on us to make sure we don't go too crazy :P

user

Why else would a CM hang out here? :P

exedraj

23:36

@user bold of you to assume I'd be the hero ;)

Dude coinheringaahing

There's like a 30% chance that we'd do something really bad to the network if left unsupervised :P

user

@exedraj True, you'd probably be the hacker friend :P

exedraj

@user bold of you to assume I'd be on the hero's side ;)

user

Oh dear, so you really were possessed by Flowey :P

Dude coinheringaahing

@Dudecoinheringaahing Just off the top of my head, we might change the user profiles so they look bad... oh wait :P

user

23:38

@Dudecoinheringaahing ??? When did that happen?

Oh wait, you mean what the SE team did

I thought CGCC users somehow messed up profiles lol

Dude coinheringaahing

Not yet :P

Bubbler

@user So your hero has a supply friend, a hacker friend, a strong friend, and a police friend? That's way too unfair for the villain :P

Dude coinheringaahing

Speaking of, that meta post has almost hit -300

user

@Bubbler Ah, but the villain has a private army (yet never uses it and instead chooses to fight the hero himself in hand-to-hand combat for some reason)

The villain also chooses to use vehicles with fuel so volatile that they blow up when on contact with anything other than the gorund

Bubbler

Any feedback?

Neil

23:43

@Dudecoinheringaahing I'd argue that New Posts is my best friend

user

@Bubbler The SKI one looks very nice. It might help to include an example of an output with more than 1 letter in your TIO link, but it's not a big deal

@Neil Does that mean you don't have any friends or that New Posts is capable of friendship?

Dude coinheringaahing

CMP: What do you call soda water/fizzy water?

user

Dumb

Bubbler

carbonated water

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