The Nineteenth Byte

user

15:00

@WheatWizard Can you do where f::Int->a to save a few bytes?

Wheat Wizard

No. Pure functions with the signature Int->a are impossible to create.

user

:(

Wzl

@WheatWizard you can take input as a list, pretty sure that's the standard way for Haskell to take variadic arguments (or as Maybes)

Wheat Wizard

That reads as a function that takes an Int and outputs whatever you want it to.

pxeger

oh, Haskell...

Wheat Wizard

15:01

@Wzl It's boring though.

Wzl

f a (Just b) = a + b
f a None = a + a

ngn

@WheatWizard "I believe there are 15 747 724 136 275 002 577 605 653 961 181 555 468 044 717 914 527 116 709 366 231 425 076 185 631 031 296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons" --some physicist :)

pxeger

I love the fact that computer science papers just assume everybody uses Haskell and don't ever mention what language they're using

Wzl

> Some prior exposure to functional programming would be helpful in reading this
article, but special features of Gofer (Jones, 1995b) — our implementation language
— are explained as they are used.

Wheat Wizard

Gofer is a implementation of Haskell.

Wzl

15:06

they mention it, but later

pxeger

oh ok

Wzl

@pxeger true, but still it's a pretty reasonable assumption IMO

or at least it's reasonable to assume the readers will understand haskell

ngn

@ngn others suggest a much lower estimate

Wheat Wizard

Haskell is basically pseudo-code after all.

Wzl

@WheatWizard VTC as "I disagree" :P

pxeger

15:11

— nobody, ever

ninja'd!

rak1507

haskell is more pseudocode than most imperative languages

user

Very basic Haskell mkight look like pseudocode, but all those .s and <$> get very difficult to read

Wzl

@rak1507 true but I still had to make my joke

rak1507

@user true

user

@rak1507 Depends on what kind of pseudocode you write, I guess

Wheat Wizard

15:13

I think the notion that any language is basically pseudo-code is pretty absurd. I hear it commonly about python, which I think is quite false.

rak1507

yeah

hyper-neutrino

yeah I don't agree with python being pseudocode-like lol

user

It's certainly simpler than languages such as Java, but it ain't pseudocode either

Not that looking like pseudocode is necessarily a great thing

Wheat Wizard

Yeah, I'd prefer my programming language to look like real code!

Redwolf Programs

Brain-flak is pretty close to pseudocode, very intuitive syntax.

Wheat Wizard

15:15

^

ngn

if pseudocode could be evaluated, we would be calling it code

hyper-neutrino

someone just needs to make a pseudo-interpreter then

Redwolf Programs

AP computer science pseudocode is probably the worst pseudocode I've ever seen

pxeger

who the fuck puts subscription tiers on a podcast

Wheat Wizard

I think pseudo-code is undecidable.

Redwolf Programs

15:18

It [AP CSP pseudocode] has the aesthetics of SQL, and the functionality of TI-BASIC

Wheat Wizard

for Turing machine T with n states
  print 1 if T halts 0 otherwise

2

Redwolf Programs

was TI-BASIC anyone else's first experience programming here?

user

I guess it suposed to look like natural language, which is undecidable itself

hyper-neutrino

i mean if there were a formal standard for pseudocode it'd just be code. everyone has different ideas of what pseudocode should look like which is kinda the point :p

Wheat Wizard

I programmed in TI-BASIC pretty early on, but it wasn't my first.

ngn

15:20

@RedwolfPrograms mine was basic, but not "ti-"

user

@RedwolfPrograms If you count making a program to let me cheat on a mah test, then yes :P

hyper-neutrino

i've never actually used TI-BASIC

Wheat Wizard

My first was Z80 assembler.

Redwolf Programs

I made some pretty cool stuff with it [TI-BASIC]

user

@WheatWizard It's that easy to pick up?

pxeger

15:21

I'm afraid to say my first language was Python

Redwolf Programs

~~That explains a lot~~

Wheat Wizard

Assemblers are a lot more tolerable when you don't know what normal languages look like. I learned to program thinking that all programming looked like programming in assembly.

Redwolf Programs

I'm kind of excited to order my new laptop, I'll have a windows 10 partition so I can upload programs to my TI-83+

Not that I'll ever use it again

Wzl

my first was C, except all I did was pasting from SO and some other source I forgot. Still, that may be a valid way to learn

Redwolf Programs

Duct tape coding

rak1507

15:22

My first was Python, I actually found the book I used the other day when my parents were clearing out some old books

Wheat Wizard

Python was the first language I used that didn't have goto, and it was very hard for me to understand how I could program without goto.

pxeger

@WheatWizard lol

Redwolf Programs

Same here actually, but with JS

Wheat Wizard

I eventually figured out how to define functions and figured out I could more or less do goto using recursion.

rak1507

lol

Redwolf Programs

15:23

I actually asked a stack overflow question about that

And the answer was basically "stop being stupid and use functions"

Wzl

@WheatWizard was thinking this, but with pointers

user

Did anyone else here start out with logo?

Wzl

@user not me but logo is a pretty good language

Wheat Wizard

Pointers are fun. I loved using pointers in C++.

hyper-neutrino

i touched python for a bit earlier, but I think the first language I actually started using and learning was JS

Redwolf Programs

15:25

TI-BASIC then JS then HTML/CSS then PHP for me

user

@Wzl I don't remember much of it, but yeah, it was pretty nice (rather basic though)

CMQ: Which languages did you learn first?

Wzl

I looked at python first because a friend was making pygame games, but I didn't understand it

pxeger

I remember when I had just started prorgamming, being on a plane and using my legally obtained copy of a C++ book and reading the section on pointers about 8 times over before I understood them

user

@Wzl Wait really? I found Python pretty easy to get started with (although I never did anything complex at first)

Wheat Wizard

I actually didn't use Z80 assembler, I used a similar assembler for the gameboy that doesn't have a name that I know of.

Wzl

15:27

@user yeah (I didn't understand programming at all except that you do this then that then another thing)

Onir

for fastest code you run it with time on linux?

and then include the "real" time?

pxeger

yep there's no reason that wouldn't work I think

Onir

and then I say what processor and compiler I used?

Wzl

reading The C Programming Language (ANSI C) was when I first "understood" programming

user

Imagine reading a book to learn programming

@Onir Not the processor, but the compiler, I think

Redwolf Programs

15:32

I tried to learn C++ from a book at least three times

Wzl

@Onir you don't have to, only if you rely on compiler-specific things (which happens fairly often for code-golf)

Onir

oh neverming

some problems give a special scoring system right?

like this one explicitly states how to score

7

Q: Patterns in Permutations

This fastest-code challenge is based partly on this MSE question and exists to extend some OEIS sequences, and create others. If I extend or create sequences based on this challenge, I'll link to this challenge so that folks can see where the values come from. If you'd like direct credit, include...

Wzl

yes, when they have code-challenge or a different criterion like fastest-code, code-bowling or koth

pxeger

no, you probably should specify the processor for fastest-code, so people know how comparable your result's gonna be

And for fastest-code, typically the challenge author will test all the submissions on their own hardware to make it fair

user

@pxeger I thought for fastest code, the OP uses their own computer, so you can't select the processor

pxeger

15:34

no, but including your own results is a good idea so you don't need to wait until the OP times it

Onir

oh ok so most of the times the op is going to run the code for the answerer?

Redwolf Programs

Wait what...you can get 4K on a 13.3" screen?

hyper-neutrino

In order to ensure fairness, the official score is given by someone (usually the OP) running the code on a specific machine so everyone is tested on the same environment

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms totally not worth it though

13.3" is far too small for it to be appreciable

Redwolf Programs

That would be awful, yeah

Everything's too small even with FHD

pxeger

15:38

why not get a bigger laptop?

Redwolf Programs

I like 13.3"

pxeger

but you just complained that everything is too small to read

user

@pxeger Ah, makes sense

Redwolf Programs

Oh nice, just realized I can still get the MX450 if I get an i5 and 8GB of RAM (saves like $170 since I have no need for 16 GB)

@pxeger Well not unpleasantly small

Anything with a reasonably good DPI will be like that

I'd rather just zoom in a bit than have everything be all pixel-y

pxeger

Even on my 27" 1808p monitors nothing is noticeably pixel-y

Redwolf Programs

15:40

Maybe I'm better at noticing pixel-y-ness then :p

The only problem I've had with 13.3" is that it's a bit small for more powerful CPU/GPUs, so it heats up a lot

But that's easy to fix I think

Redwolf Programs

15:54

Nice, the i5-1135G7 has a max frequency of 4.20 GHz

I think we should stop trying to make faster CPUs. We have reached the perfect speed.

hyper-neutrino

we could go up to 6.90 GHz

Redwolf Programs

Good point

Aaron Miller

16:21

@RedwolfPrograms Are you still planning on rewriting the Plumber interpreter? Because at this rate, Plumber's going to be LotM in less than a week, so you're probably going to want to do that before then.

Redwolf Programs

I've started on rewriting it, probably shouldn't take me too long

Onir

is there a tag for finding extremal combinatorics?

find some discrete structure that does this well

Redwolf Programs

I don't think so, codegolf.stackexchange.com/tags/math/info has a good list of math related tags here

pxeger

CMC: where on SE can you see users' unabbreviated reputation? I want every page that displays it

Arnauld

@RedwolfPrograms I've bought a 1 To Crucial MX500 one month ago to replace a dying HDD. This is my first Crucial drive. I'm happy with it so far, but 1 month is obviously too short to reach a final opinion.

pxeger

16:32

"1 To" - now we know the enigmatic Arnauld is probably French (if it wasn't obvious already from his name and picture)

Arnauld

@RedwolfPrograms As a matter of fact, the other drive in my laptop is a Samsung SSD which has been working fine for several years.

Redwolf Programs

Sounds like they're both probably good options then. Thanks!

Arnauld

Do you need to make a backup of the old drive on the new one?

Redwolf Programs

No, it completely failed :/

Luckily I'd copied over a few important things a day or two before

Arnauld

I know exactly that feeling. :-/

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16:36

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Q: set of exams that guarantee at least one good score

Assume a standardized test has \$15\$ multiple choice questions, with $3$ options each. A school has some students and wishes for at least one of the students to get \$10\$ correct answers. Since no one in the school knows any math they are going to cheat and tell each student which answers he ha...

combinatorics

hyper-neutrino

how would this be scored?

code-challenge is the goto non-standard but it's not really a code challenge is it

Aaron Miller

@pxeger Any page that has the abbreviated rep; if you hover over it then you can see the full rep.

Redwolf Programs

A list of every page that displays rep seems like a pretty niche thing to be looking for, and I'd imagine there are way too many to count

pxeger

@AaronMiller huh, I didn't know that. But where can you see it to start with (besides for your own user in the header)

Redwolf Programs

Users page

pxeger

16:40

@RedwolfPrograms Well I don't actually want/need a complete list, I just want to see how many people can come up with

Redwolf Programs

Under any answer or question

pxeger

no?

Redwolf Programs

It shows rep there right?

hyper-neutrino

i think if you hover their pfp it shows

not sure

Redwolf Programs

Anyone else arrange their pinned tabs by the main hue of their icons?

Wzl

16:43

imagine pinning tabs (which is a good thing to do, I just always forget that pinning exists)

Redwolf Programs

Wzl

also the one tab I would pin would be the TNB, but then I can't see the (1)

hyper-neutrino

i arrange them based on some random consistent order

user

Imagine having enough tabs to pin

This post made by post a tab as soon as you think you're done with it and then regrent closing it too early gang

Redwolf Programs

Half of my pinned tabs I don't even need anymore, but if I close them something feels off

hyper-neutrino

16:47

i have discord, gmail, gmail, outlook, review queues, MSE, SO, and meta CGCC pinned

Wzl

@RedwolfPrograms if you see a color in a context does it ever make you think of a word (that's not a color)

Redwolf Programs

No

It's not a reversible function :p

Aaron Miller

My pinned tabs

user

How do you have a green background? Is that a custom theme?

Aaron Miller

Windows accent color

user

16:50

Oh ok

Redwolf Programs

You can set custom chrome colors too

user

Are you talking about an extension or a userChrome.css?

Aaron Miller

@RedwolfPrograms You don't need to pin your tabs if you just don't ever close chrome or reboot your computer.

Redwolf Programs

@user Neither

Go to the new tab page and there's a little edit icon in the bottom right

Wzl

my pinned tabs

user

16:52

Oh nice

Redwolf Programs

@AaronMiller I don't pin them to keep them around, I pin them to make them take up less space :p

Aaron Miller

true, true

hyper-neutrino

same lol

i have 17 tabs rn

user

:o

Aaron Miller

I have like 20 tabs spread across 3 windows

Wzl

16:54

I have tab groups that I just use as a poor replacement for bookmarks, so I always have too many extra tabs

nineteen tabs rn in this window, then another window for viewing images with one other tab (r7rs spec)

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms i'm tempted to try and report it to SE if that's possible. i can access everyone's IP already anyway (logged, of course) but if this is possible that is.... a rather significant security issue

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Assume a standardized test has \$15\$ multiple choice questions, with \$3\$ options each. A school has some students and wishes for at least one of the students to get \$10\$ correct answers. Since no one in the school knows any math they are going to cheat and tell each student which answers he ...

hyper-neutrino

17:13

→ 29 messages moved to Trashcan

I am hiding these messages because if it is actually possible, it's best nobody finds out about it until I can confirm it works and report it.

Wezl

"-̥̊(-̥̊(" this is cursed

Adám

@Wezl Firefox shows a blue blob instead of the (1) if the tab is pinned.

user

17:29

@Wezl How so?

Adám

My pinned tabs:

user

Also, congratulations on getting your old name back

@Adám You really need to check your mail :P

Onir

or click mark all as read

Adám

Gmail (for both private and company email), Gvoice, The APL Orchard, Company calendar, APLcart, Kids schedule on Gsheets, Slack for Array Cast, TNB.

@user @Onir No, I use mark-as-unread to keep track of things that need positive action from me. Currently at 147.

user

Oh ok

Aaron Miller

17:33

I just thought of a way to golf the Vyxal truth-machine from 4 bytes to 3 bytes, went to add it in a comment, and saw that I had already golfed it to 3 bytes with a completely different method. :p

user

Suffering from success :P

You can always add the other method too if it's interesting

Aaron Miller

True. I think I'll do that.

Wezl

which will also bump it for a reasonable reason => upvotes

Aaron Miller

Well, it's not my answer, so I just left it as a comment.

Redwolf Programs

17:54

Biweekly Mini Golf is two days from now

hyper-neutrino

has it really only been two weeks?

Redwolf Programs

May 19 at 14:21, by user

Feb 28 at 1:17, by caird coinheringaahing

idk the physics behind it, but time has been on some hardcore drugs for the past 18 months

hyper-neutrino

well as they say time flies when you're having fun

Redwolf Programs

Hopefully I don't get put on some sort of watchlist for searching "hardcore drugs" in SE chat lol

hyper-neutrino

lol

Redwolf Programs

17:59

Oh nice, got a 50/50 on that state biology test I finished in 21 minutes

state biology and human geography sound like they'd be the opposite of each other lol

hyper-neutrino

only 50/50 and not 100/100? smh :p

Redwolf Programs

Currently in a hallway where if I walk two feet in one direction I lose wifi

And I walk in circles

hyper-neutrino

just teleport to the next point with wifi

Redwolf Programs

So I lose wifi every circle

hyper-neutrino

so, my server just got a bunch of requests that are very obviously an automatic hack attempt ಠ_ಠ

Redwolf Programs

18:06

Happens quite often

hyper-neutrino

unfortunately for them I do not use any standard/sane environment/setup so automatic attempts won't get you anywhere :D

Redwolf Programs

I used to actually try to stop them, but there's not really any point

hyper-neutrino

it's weird tho cuz i haven't seen this too much (i think my server blocks a lot of them before they get to my flask app) and i just got this after recently posting my site to three locations - one in a private SE room, one on a private discord server, and one in a semi-private discord server

Redwolf Programs

Might've been scraped

hyper-neutrino

and i don't think anyone in any of those three locations have the intent/ability to launch an attack against me, so it must just be a really massive coincidence :P

@RedwolfPrograms well my site is on my SE profile so that wouldn't surprise me

i'm not concerned :P it's just very odd and coincidental timing

our server actually got hacked once because we forgot to install sshguard but fortunately the host service detected weird stuff and just automatically shut it down lol

Redwolf Programs

18:09

I've got private keys required for mine

hyper-neutrino

i'm not sure if we still have username/password ssh for our server; I think i've switched everything to private keys

Redwolf Programs

~~Passwords are for people who don't take the time to memorize their RSA keys~~

hyper-neutrino

D:

Redwolf Programs

Honestly passwords are probably fine for otherwise secure SSH as long as you don't use a weak password

hyper-neutrino

i mean with sshguard it's fine

i've actually gotten locked out of my own server by sshguard cuz i mistyped my password like twice or thrice, lol

Redwolf Programs

18:24

Considering forking Text so I can change the syntax highlighting and theme

I wish Atom ran fast enough to be viable as a text editor on Chrome

ugh

there is something under my desk

c'mon why do people put gum there

import { CodeMirror } from "./edit/main.js"

export default CodeMirror

What is the point of this JS file

Why do people do this to themselves

Just write code like a normal person

And then there's a 10k line file right after that

hyper-neutrino

18:41

@RedwolfPrograms so the previous security exploit is already on public meta so it's w/e to talk about it. this has been known for almost 11 years and nothing has been done about it

not only can you grab IPs, you can also freeze people's browsers and such

Redwolf Programs

You can also potentially use it to get badges like announcer, not sure if chat is considered an SE origin

Oh never mind

That requirement was removed

So yeah, I think you can get announcer without a single person clicking the link

Just sticking the link in a few popular chat rooms with #.jpg appended is probably enough

I kind of want to test it, but I can't think of a way to do it without falsely getting a badge (maybe a sockpuppet?)

Wezl

...or is that how the badge is meant to be grabbed :?

Redwolf Programs

Plus it'd involve posting basically spam in enough rooms to have 25 unique people see it

Which would only be two or three if you did it right, but...

Not something they should really allow

I'm also worried it could be used to get ad revenue in some manner

TIL there's a "Not a Robot" badge on SO

hyper-neutrino

in any case, allowing people to cause other users to involuntarily make a request to a random URL is... bad just in general

Redwolf Programs

Yep

hyper-neutrino

18:49

might be worth a userscript to block showing images not from imgur?

Redwolf Programs

I'll immediately get to work on that

hyper-neutrino

it's been around for 11 years without many issues but... granted, if my IP's been getting grabbed this whole time, i wouldn't even know

that's the concerning part - you can't tell if a non-imgur hosted image is logging your IPs even

pxeger

~~luckily, I've already grabbed your IP from when you visited ato.pxeger.com~~

Anush

I have text file where some of the lines end ^M" Is that a special code?

Redwolf Programs

That's a carriage return

Windows newlines

Anush

18:55

I can see it with cat -A in Linux

@RedwolfPrograms with the " too?

Redwolf Programs

Looks like you've accidentally run into a windows user. Don't worry; if you don't look them in the eyes they won't hurt you.

Hm, not sure what the " is

Anush

Me neither!

pxeger

@Anush probably some weird Windows encoding jank. You have 2 solutions: try to fix it with iconv and other wizardry, or never use Windows again

Anush

If anyone knows about weird windows encoding jank I would love to know :)

pxeger

I suspect nobody, not even anyone at Microsoft, knows about weird Windows encoding jank

Anush

18:57

I haven't used iconv

It's very hard to Google

pxeger

It's a coreutil to convert text encodings

linux.die.net/man/1/iconv

Anush

I mean ^M" is

pxeger

oh

Wezl

:O I'm locked out of my email. Not good. (I forgot my password after changing it)

Redwolf Programs

Just get them to send you a recovery em...oh wait

Anush

19:00

Stop using email!!

Wezl

wait, just realized I had a backup irl *phew*

Anush

Nothing good comes of it

Wezl

thank goodness I'm not that stupid

Anush

That is good news

Wezl

*proves himself wrong*

Redwolf Programs

19:03

Okay, now to test my new userscript

hyper-neutrino

i uh

rak1507

@Wezl I accidentally locked myself out of online banking once by changing the password without updating a password manager, had to phone them up and admit to being an idiot

hyper-neutrino

can undelete the private chat room :p

are you still on school network?

Anush

Have we had a challenge about weighted probability sampling?

pxeger

> can undeleted the private chat room

???

hyper-neutrino

19:06

oops

undeleted the chat room, if you ever want to hop in there to test. i suppose there isn't a problem keeping it undeleted since it's private anyway

Redwolf Programs

Thanks

hyper-neutrino

i removed the URL endpoint to the image tho oops

but it still seems to be fine in chat; caching i guess

Redwolf Programs

Right now I'm trying to figure out how to intercept the image before the src is even added, since instantly removing it from the DOM still sends the request

hyper-neutrino

ah

Anush

I am tempted to ask a question about it

Or a CMC

CMC given an array of non negative weights, sample an index randomly proportional to its weight .

Wezl

19:19

@Wezl which I spelled wrong

hyper-neutrino

.-.

pxeger

@Wezl ripperoonioes

Wezl

@pxeger oh thanks, that's working

:D hi Gold Farmer Sprow, nice to see you again

Gold Farmer Sprow

I am a piece of clothing you wear on your feet.

(I'm a sock of red)

pxeger

red?

Redwolf Programs

19:24

Me!

Wezl

@GoldFarmerSprow ikr I feel the same way sometimes

pxeger

oh

Redwolf Programs

I really want to test that announcer exploit now, but I'm not sure if it'd be unethical

hyper-neutrino

19:50

hmm i have input if 1/2 else raw_input in prod code

this is probably a bad idea

Onir

I posted a question and was suggested to first pass it through the sandbox

I should let it simmer for 72 hours?

Redwolf Programs

Typically you'd leave it until there's plenty of feedback and you feel it's ready

Onir

so if I don't get any positive feedback it's probably not good to go?

Redwolf Programs

Either that or it just hasn't been noticed.

Wezl

after a while (like once a day maybe) you can place it in this room or The Guild of Reviewers if you feel like it needs more feedback or upvotes (which indicate it is a fine challenge and close to be ready to be posted)

Redwolf Programs

19:55

^

Onir

oh ok thank you very much !

I'll do that tomorrow :)

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino for the love of all that is holy eliminate Python 3 support

Unrelated String

@hyper-neutrino I was going to say "so this means you have raw_input defined even if it's python 3?" but nope I guess that doesn't matter

New Posts

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Q: Permute the bits of a byte

For this code golf challenge permute the bits of a byte according to the rule 01234567 -> 30421657 for example 11110000 would be permuted to 11011000. and 10101010 would be permuted to 01110100.

math bitwise

Redwolf Programs

^ I think that's a dupe

hyper-neutrino

20:09

I second that

if I/O must be an integer, then this is pretty much a dupe

there isn't much new; we could make 40320 challenges by just using a different permutation

Redwolf Programs

Is that the real number?

hyper-neutrino

8!

Redwolf Programs

It is lol

hyper-neutrino

anyway, I am using my hammer

Redwolf Programs

And if we include ones where bits are skipped or duplicated, 16777216

hyper-neutrino

20:11

oh it wasn't tagged correctly

do you have a hammer?

Redwolf Programs

Me?

hyper-neutrino

you do not

either way it wasn't actually tagged right anyway :P

Redwolf Programs

I'm not even halfway to my silver code golf badge lol

No hammer yet :p

hyper-neutrino

oh lol

Unrelated String

lol

Redwolf Programs

20:12

Ash would've been a free reputation machine but...oops

Turns out it bad

Unrelated String

wait how do i have silver code golf

oh it's specifically for answers

Redwolf Programs

If questions were included I'd have a platinum tag badge signed by the president of code golf

I have as many of those as I do answers

Actually I have less than 150 total :|

Unrelated String

:|

ngn

20:29

@Anush can we assume the weights are non-negative ints?

Anush

@ngn yes

ngn

@Anush *1?&:

Anush

20:45

Wow!

I guess that's built in

I wonder what you can do in C

Wezl

@Anush lol no K does not have builtins in the sense of mathematica

ngn

@Anush there's no primitive for "weighted average". i'm using "where" - it tells you the positions of truthy elements in a boolean list: &1 0 0 1 1 -> 0 3 4, and it's extended to allow elements greater than 1 in the input - in that case it replicates the index multiple times: &2 0 0 5 1 -> 0 0 3 3 3 3 3 4. then *1? just picks one uniformly at random.

Adám

@Anush Just be aware that this solution is potentially very wasteful. It generates a temporary list with as many elements as the sum of the weights.

hyper-neutrino

JxµX in Jelly

with the same issue Adam brought up about the K answer

Anush

@ngn fascinating. So if they were floats it wouldn't work?

@Adám thanks

If anyone can try it in C I would love to see a solution

hyper-neutrino

20:58

JxµX chains as J (1), x (2), X (1) since µ is the monadic chain separator, so it generates the indices for the list, repeats each by the corresponding number, and then randomly selects an element from that. so, basically what ngn's solution does

Anush

@hyper-neutrino how about for float weights?

hyper-neutrino

does not work

i don't think jelly actually has a float random built-in, i think it only works on integer randrange

Anush

Let's change the CMC to have floats

ngn

@Anush that's why i asked first :)

Anush

@ngn :)

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