The Nineteenth Byte

pxeger

17:00

Exhibit B

Redwolf Programs

"Ten programs that manipulate strings in ways YOU WON'T BELIEVE"

ChartZ Belatedly

Yeah, but most titles aren't that clickbaity :P

pxeger

Lol

Original Original Original VI

Someone needs to make a Buzzfeed-ifier AI

Redwolf Programs

Call it Fizzfeed

pxeger

17:22

poor old @xnor... always posting answers a day or two late to challenges because he optimises them so much, and then misses the upvote wave

3

Original Original Original VI

It's not the upvotes that matter, it's the golfs you make along the way.

Wezl

@pxeger I've got whiteboard tape on the wall next to it

It's ugly and I don't even use it anymore

pxeger

Is it ok to accept an answer for no reason other than for the +2 rep to get you to a nice round number?

Wezl

@pxeger of course! What could possibly be wrong with that?

ChartZ Belatedly

@pxeger Yeah, but I typically avoid doing so on code-golf challenges

Find a code-challenge or CnR to do it on, or a closed challenge :P

pxeger

17:30

oh great I've got a nose bleed

TMI?

Original Original Original VI

@pxeger You all right?

Redwolf Programs

I use my old KotH challenges as a way to offset downvotes

Wezl

@pxeger me too this morning. It's ugly and I don't even use it anymore.

Original Original Original VI

Ask Digital Trauma for advice if you need any.

pxeger

@Wezl what is? your nose?

Original Original Original VI

17:31

@Wezl Yeah, I lost my sense of smell a few days back myself.

@pxeger Or maybe their blood?

ChartZ Belatedly

Is Wezl a vampire?

2

Wezl

yes, yes, and no

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl I saw that edit

It's confirmed, Wezl is a vampire weasel.

Wezl

we don't even have lips, we'd need straws

that is the most disgusting sentence I've ever said

Original Original Original VI

You can't just use suction? That's what I do

Or use gravity to your advantage and let it flow out.

Wezl

17:35

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI what species are you of?

Original Original Original VI

Yeah, this is getting dark

@Wezl Uh, I'm human.

Why would you think otherwise?

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI it's hard to use suction without lips

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl So use gravity (you'd need a big hole, of course, but it's manageable)

Wezl

>| is like a weasel, )| is like a human. They're flatter and have lips

Original Original Original VI

Oh

ChartZ Belatedly

17:37

Just to double check: I'm still awake, and not having a fever dream right? :P

Original Original Original VI

Can't be that hard to obtain straws, ~~I used to take them from fast food places all the time~~

Wezl

@ChartZBelatedly I can't make any guarantees myself

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Tell me where you live and I can check for you

ChartZ Belatedly

47 mins ago, by pxeger

confirmed: ChartZ is british!

:P

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI not any more than a normal weasel (IRL I'm vegetarian)

Original Original Original VI

17:39

Jeez

@ChartZBelatedly Hmm, could you be a bit more specific? ;P

(that was supposed to be a creepy looking emoji)

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI they must live in britishland, then

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Oh yeah, sure. Galactic coordinates 13452.328 mark 3 :P

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl Thanks, looks like that's just a few minutes away

@ChartZBelatedly Sorry, I only use imperial units :P

CMP: Would you consider 7 am to 12 am a good sleep schedule?

ChartZ Belatedly

For an owl, yes

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI there is no am

Original Original Original VI

17:44

What about part-time bats? (asking for a friend)

Adám

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI No, you need more hours.

Original Original Original VI

@Adám How many more?

@Wezl ?

Adám

3

Original Original Original VI

10 hours is a lot of sleeping

Adám

I assume that by 12 am you mean noon (i.e. 12 pm)

Original Original Original VI

17:46

@Adám I meant midnight (inverted, so my very real friend is awake from 7 to 12)

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI :)

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl I still don't understand what the Prolog chat room has to do with am

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI nothing, except for I can easily see how many people clicked my link ::::)

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl Huh, how do you do that?

pxeger

if I make a programming language where NaN === NaN, what are IEEE 754 gonna do about it?

Original Original Original VI

17:48

@pxeger Excommunicate you, perhaps

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI they show up in the user list

Original Original Original VI

Oh

Makonede

18:00

@rak1507 extra bonus points if Never Gonna Give You Up solves the halting problem

Original Original Original VI

Found it here

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Starting on a Jelly version :P

My Enigma program becomes:

equal zipwith fourth head each pop 1 concat rotate swap zipwith 1chain register fifth tack ualpha index atindex 3dyads reduce2 1chain retrieve reverse index swap atindex ualpha 3dyads reduce2
leftarg copy right stdinraw last1 each

Original Original Original VI

Nice!

ChartZ Belatedly

Very readable :P

Original Original Original VI

Will you also add parentheses and stuff later?

ChartZ Belatedly

18:03

Maybe. RN it's just going to be a direct transliteration, and I can work from there

Original Original Original VI

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Are you writing it using HTML 5? It's very secure.

Makonede

@ChartZBelatedly at least more so than Malbolge

Original Original Original VI

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI And the original article

HyperNeutrino

what's the requirement for submitting solutions in Racket

can i just write a lambda and do i need the #lang racket / #!racket

Wezl

@HyperNeutrino Red solutions often have the Red[] so the #lang might be needed

but noone will mind if you don't put it

HyperNeutrino

18:14

Okay. I found a couple of submissions and all of them seem to include it, so I think I'll just keep it in

Wezl

@Wezl actually I think that was just for full programs

Redwolf Programs

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI "The entire infotainment system is made in a Google Docs Quantum Computer. That's the standard programming language for computer programmers around the world."

HyperNeutrino

this one is the first one i found that seemed to be a good reference

Redwolf Programs

Might as well make the infotainment center in .txt, it's much more compatible and secure

Wezl

if you're going to make just a lambda I don't think the #lang makes sense. That's never going to happen with actual code.

HyperNeutrino

18:18

that's true

Original Original Original VI

@RedwolfPrograms Define "secure."

Redwolf Programs

I've never seen a virus written in .txt, have you?

Original Original Original VI

Good point

Wezl

there's probably been a virus in txt files that wasn't actually in the text language

Original Original Original VI

You can run a file with any extension, right?

Wezl

18:21

@HyperNeutrino racket runs with -f without erroring when I don't put a #lang. Is that enough proof?

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI depends on the program

and OS

Original Original Original VI

Say a batch file renamed to .txt

Wezl

most interpreters/compilers don't require a specific extension

HyperNeutrino

I don't think this is actually golfier to do with a lambda (at least with my approach) so i think i'm going to (define) some functions in which case idk if I need the #lang

Wezl

@HyperNeutrino you don't

racket will accept it, I tested

HyperNeutrino

okay

Wezl

18:24

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Thoughts on this instead (for the same program):

register (zipwith (equals) fourth each (head) pop 1 concat zipwith (swap (rotate))) fifth tack reduce2 (ualpha index atindex) mu retrieve reverse reduce2 (swap(index) atindex ualpha)
copy (leftarg) right stdinraw each (above)

rak1507

jellisp

ChartZ Belatedly

Quicks now go prefix with their links in brackets

Wezl

I would use this for general purpose programming

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly It's somewhat better

Wezl

18:28

that is, if it wasn't python and I did general purpose programming

rak1507

'mu' is a bad name

Original Original Original VI

Do weasels have something against snakes?

ChartZ Belatedly

@rak1507 It's either mu or 1chain, mu is the shortened version

rak1507

ah ok, 1chain is better

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI weasels are snakes with fur

ChartZ Belatedly

18:29

Yeah, the chain separators are 0chain 1chain (or mu), 2chain and rev2chain

Wezl

but nothing against snakes in general

Redwolf Programs

I'm working on designing my undocumented programming language

Original Original Original VI

@RedwolfPrograms You could take over Hatred from ChartZ

Redwolf Programs

Designing the I/O and error messages is difficult, since I have to make them descriptive enough to be useful but vague enough not to reveal how it works

Original Original Original VI

Or you could just say something like Segmentation fault (core dumped)

HyperNeutrino

18:38

for this challenge we could just brute force all 2^50 states. this seems like a good idea

ChartZ Belatedly

@HyperNeutrino The issue is that you have to have a cut-off point of generations as a number of them never reach a fixed state, so it's very possible that the answer is above whatever cut-off you choose

Either that, or you solve the halting problem :P

HyperNeutrino

@ChartZBelatedly not necessarily

instead of completing one configuration

you store all 2^50

and then going through them, run each one by one generation

once one reaches a fixed state, remove it

and then just keep running them like that until only one remains

ez

Original Original Original VI

Parallelization would require a ton of memory, wouldn't it?

ChartZ Belatedly

But there will never be just one, unless you detect infinite patterns such as gliders

HyperNeutrino

well, enough memory to store 2^50 GOL games so, yeah just a bit

oh yeah true ;-;

i mean detecting infinite patterns is probably a bit easier than uh

Redwolf Programs

18:44

Only a million gigabytes or so per cell

HyperNeutrino

having the resources to brute force 2^50 GOLs in parallel

Original Original Original VI

Could you do it like cryptominers?

Run it on other people's computers?

ChartZ Belatedly

@HyperNeutrino I don't think so, because wouldn't that be a form of the halting problem? You can't tell, from any given pattern that it'll be infinite or not

HyperNeutrino

wait yeah you're right i'm stupid

ChartZ Belatedly

You'll be able to rule out obvious ones that spit out a glider that's never caught, but there could be ones that aren't :P

HyperNeutrino

18:45

i was thinking you could just run it until you detect that every block is a shifted version of a previous block (so, spaceships)

but like, you don't know how long until it produces said spaceship

you could just keep running these in parallel

every time a new one reaches a fixed state, you edit your answer to the new improved one

ChartZ Belatedly

So all you have to do is solve the halting problem and have millions of gigabytes of memory at your disposal, and you've solved the challenge :P

ez

Redwolf Programs

We're all missing the obvious solution here: List every possible state that becomes empty, then every possible state that creates those, and so on until we find the PPCG one :p

ChartZ Belatedly

My strategy: oh look, a pattern

That's literally all I did to get the 797 iteration one: click cells on and off until it looked nice :P

HyperNeutrino

@RedwolfPrograms right, but the fixed state it reaches may not be empty

Redwolf Programs

Cool, more places to start with!

It's definitely a viable strategy

HyperNeutrino

18:48

yeah, that'll increase our chances of finding a PPCG state!

wait but you'd want the state that takes the longest to reach

so this doesn't actually make the problem more solveable

ChartZ Belatedly

s/finding/founding/ :P

HyperNeutrino

o.O

Original Original Original VI

Hmm, how would it be governed?

ChartZ Belatedly

Minimally

Of course, it'd need to be smaller than the Vatican

Redwolf Programs

It'd be run by moderators with a reputation system

People would be rationed food by their code golfing ability

Original Original Original VI

18:52

With more reputation, you get more privileges (being able to earn money, being allowed your own house, etc.)

Those with very high reputation get to access other people's information and ~~site~~ state analytics.

Redwolf Programs

They can also delete them for spam

Original Original Original VI

Wait, what exactly does deleting a person do?

Redwolf Programs

._.

We can just delete their property instead

Original Original Original VI

Okay, that's better

And people who don't play nice get suspended/exiled

Redwolf Programs

For 30d

Original Original Original VI

18:55

Everyone must have a name shorter than 4 letters and should have at least one non-ASCII character in their name.

⌽Å«⌹

rak1507

mine can be ⍴⍺⌸

Redwolf Programs

I'll just put an ȧ where the a is in my first name and that'll be my name :p

Original Original Original VI

⍴⍺'?

On my keyboard, Alt+k does '

Wezl

I'll be ‮Wzl

Original Original Original VI

Are those homoglyphs?

Wezl

19:07

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI no

Redwolf Programs

There's an RTL override

Original Original Original VI

Ah

Redwolf Programs

I can be

(That's three U+200b characters)

Original Original Original VI

I'll be ∪⌈∊⍴

Redwolf Programs

or maybe I can be ⸻⸻⸻⸻

Or ̣̣̣̣

rak1507

19:10

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI oh true, ⌸ is a cooler character though

Original Original Original VI

Jesus that was horrifying

@rak1507 Looks like the symbol for a database or something

⍨⍥⍤⍣

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI it's key

rak1507

tojp?

@Wezl he knows

Original Original Original VI

@rak1507 Nah, I just chose them because they look somewhat like emojis

rak1507

ah

Redwolf Programs

19:13

I'll be ⢄⠔⠑⢄

Original Original Original VI

Apparently there's a shell with the same name as me

@RedwolfPrograms I wonder what that is in Braille

Redwolf Programs

My money's on "Mountain" :p

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI braille's an alphabet >:|

Redwolf Programs

The ones with the 2x4 dots can be words, right?

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl Like if you took what the Latin equivalents were

Wezl

19:15

@RedwolfPrograms oh, maybe, didn't know that

Redwolf Programs

Looks like some aren't defined though

Wezl

19:49

@lyxal codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/221369/90614

I love excuses to post links

Redwolf Programs

20:07

I made a function in JS to draw black and white bitmap images with braille

gist.github.com/RedwolfPrograms/…

Original Original Original VI

How well does it work?

Redwolf Programs

it takes input as a 2d array

I haven't tried any large images yet

I'll generate one

Original Original Original VI

I wonder if there's some way to draw any image with Unicode characters (given a certain font and size, I guess)

Redwolf Programs

Oh wait it doesn't work

This is embarassing

Okay, now it seems to work

Wezl

lemme go get suffrage real quick ᵃⁿʸ ˢᵘᵍᵍᵉˢᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ?

Original Original Original VI

20:22

@Wezl Is suffrage some kind of software or are you talking about voting rights?

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI suffrage badge

ChartZ Belatedly

> Use 30 votes in a day

Go one further and go for Vox Populi

Wezl

one at a time

ChartZ Belatedly

If you get Vox Populi, you automatically get Suffrage. And it's probably best to start earlier in the day, as you have 3.5 hours to do so :P

Wezl

:( I don't get Explainer from answering my own question ):

ChartZ Belatedly

20:26

Nope :P That triple (Explainer, Refiner, Illuminator) is the hardest badge triple to get IMO

When only 7 people have the silver, and no-one the gold, you know it's hard :P

Original Original Original VI

Hey, is it all right with you guys if I make an offensive question to get Peer Pressure?

ChartZ Belatedly

No

That sort of completely ignores the point of Peer Pressure :P

Original Original Original VI

I don't get the point of Peer Pressure

Disciplined I get, but this encourages people to post bad answers/questions.

Wezl

this looks pretty interesting

I'm going through the bottom of the active question pile

some of them are hard or closed, but some of them look nice

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI The point IIRC is that if you post a blatantly wrong answer, for whatever reason, then at least you get a "consolation prize" for deleting it and helping clean up the site

Wezl

20:31

so I upvote them :)

ChartZ Belatedly

It's not a badge to aim for :P

29

A: Please get rid of the peer pressure badge

I disagree. One purpose of badges is to teach users about good actions to do on the site. While posting a bad question is, well, bad, deleting it is still good. The number of people who post bad questions just to delete them is vanishingly small. But the number of people who don't delete because...

Original Original Original VI

I feel like the people who can get that badge rarely know about it.

Wezl

on the other hand, then I can do a helpful flag :)

ChartZ Belatedly

@Wezl Careful, older questions didn't follow the same standards of quality we demand now, and so can be confusing or poorly worded

Original Original Original VI

7

A: Please get rid of the peer pressure badge

Another solution could be to change the action that triggers the peer pressure badge. Rather than having "Delete an answer with -3 score" which encourages deleting bad content / posting bad content because you can delete it, I would recommend changing it to become "Have an answer with a score of ...

^ I prefer this

ChartZ Belatedly

20:34

Plus, irritatingly outdated I/O formats, time limits and the possibility of being closed if they get bumped

Original Original Original VI

This one's not bad.

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I like that, but I think it should be a different badge :P

Similar to Lifeboat but on your own answer

A good indicator of the point of Peer Pressure is that it isn't an Answer, Question or Participation badge; it's Moderation badge

Redwolf Programs

Made something interesting with the braille program: gist.github.com/RedwolfPrograms/…

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms interesting, doesn't look like a square :)

Redwolf Programs

I'm bad at naming things :p

It made a square at first

Now it doesn't

Wezl

20:40

squares aren't that interesting anyway

Redwolf Programs

This one lets you watch it grow: gist.github.com/RedwolfPrograms/…

Original Original Original VI

Interesting name

pxeger

> ngjabngiebgiubiu.js

Redwolf Programs

2 mins ago, by Redwolf Programs

I'm bad at naming things :p

Wait you might want to delete those console.logs from it before running it on a big input

Forgot about them

Updated gist

Wezl

ooh that's nice

Adám

21:17

Is there a neat way in regex to get any prefix of a string? E.g. for format I want to match f and fo and for and form etc. Anything better than f(?:o(?:r(?:m(?:at?)?)?)?)??

rak1507

Wezl

* Wezl screams at the backspace button being close to the power button

and at there being a button instead of a switch

rak1507

lol, for me the annoying thing is that f1 for some reason turns the screen off or puts it in sleep or something

Original Original Original VI

Physical keyboards should have standards

Like the Ctrl key should always be at the bottom left

I hate that Lenovo swaps it with the Fn key, and on older laptops, you can't do anything about it without a modded BIOS or whatever

Alex bries

21:34

Does anybody know wether it is okay if i used some TIO's code to create TIO urls.

can't ask dennis, since he is currently in need of rest.

Adám

@Alexbries It is. All TIO code is FOSS.

Alex bries

what is FOSS?

Adám

Free Open Source Software

Alex bries

Alright, thank you :p

Adám

@rak1507 Ah, of course. Though it would be better in reverse, no?

rak1507

21:37

yeah, probably

idk regex very well

Adám

Although | means the engine has to backtrack, while (?: means it can stop as soon as it hits a non-match, so the latter might have better performance.

Lyxal

Good morning everyone. Y'all sure know how to have a long conversation!

Wezl

@Adám what does (?: mean as an emoticon?

Deadcode

@Adám You could append #format to the end of your input string, where # is some character that will never occur. That would allow a more fancy way regex to be used.

Adám

@Wezl No idea.

Wezl

21:44

@Lyxal you can skip between 5:30 and 5:40

Adám

@Deadcode How so?

Deadcode

@Adám Can you use PCRE2?

Well never mind that, it doesn't need PCRE2, PCRE will be enough...

Wezl

@Wezl all the accusations are false

Adám

PCRE

Deadcode

something like (string+"#format").match(/(.+).*#\1/)

regex101.com/r/kbZcXe/1

Adám

21:47

Ah, clever.

Deadcode

:-)

Lyxal

@Wezl too late I read the whole conversation before saying you had a long conversation

Deadcode

@Adám And if you had PCRE2 available you could use regex101.com/r/kbZcXe/2 which executes in far fewer steps.

Wezl

@Lyxal they were false whether you read them or not

Adám

@Deadcode What is it here that is missing from PCRE?

Deadcode

21:54

@Adám Non-atomic lookahead. But silly me, it can be done without that, by prepending "format#" instead of appending "#format"...

Adám

:-)

Deadcode

@Adám regex101.com/r/kbZcXe/3

And in fact then you're free to even use # in your string.

And as long as your search word doesn't have repeating substrings within itself, you can just do regex101.com/r/kbZcXe/4 without the # at all

Oh, and if this is for golf, regex101.com/r/kbZcXe/5 is better, using a newline instead of #

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl Accusations?

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI is being a vampire not an accusation? I consider it to be one. ꗨ|:<

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl It was a statement. An accusation has the possibility of being false.

Wezl

22:08

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI nonsense

Original Original Original VI

It also has a negative connotation.

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI so do vampires

Original Original Original VI

Being a vampire is something that you cannot control - how can one protect oneself from being bitten by a superhuman being?

Wezl

so accusing someone of being a vampire is an accusation

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI why would you want to? They do it cleanly.

Original Original Original VI

It's like saying "ha, you're so evil because a shark bit off your arm"

@Wezl Right, but no one ever phrased it like that; it was merely a question: "Is Wezl a vampire?"

Wezl

22:11

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI "is something you cannot control" Provide evidence.

Original Original Original VI

@Wezl Um

What kind of evidence do you need?

Wezl

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI a statement from a proven vampire

rak1507

just ask yourself then

Wezl

@rak1507 I did and he said no

rak1507

that settles it then

Wezl

22:14

@rak1507 no, because I'm not a proven vampire

Lyxal

Okay let's settle this once and for all

@Wezl are you vampire?

Wezl

@Lyxal of course not

Lyxal

@Wezl okay then there we go

rak1507

that's exactly what a vampire would say

Lyxal

We have our answer

Wezl

22:16

@Lyxal which is?

Lyxal

Wezl is decidedly not a vampire

Wezl

yay, and don't trouble my kind any longer

Lyxal

@rak1507 sounds like you're trying to hide the fact you might be a vampire yourself.

rak1507

oh no

Wezl

lol

Lyxal

22:17

Attempting to shift blame is very sus

rak1507

amogus

Lyxal

Exactly

That's the take home message

Always has been

So what's our next item on the list of things to discuss today?

ChartZ Belatedly

I golfed an additional 4 bytes off my Enigma machine! :P

rak1507

nice

crossed out 42 is not 42

Lyxal

@ChartZBelatedly this is very good!

I was about to upvote only to realise the button was already green

ChartZ Belatedly

22:22

I'm still annoyed by the second µ, cause I reckon I can get rid of it, but meh :P

Lyxal

And SE mobile chat thought it would be funny to send my message twice

Wezl

5 more to go for suffrage badge!

ChartZ Belatedly

Also, I now have exactly 600 answers and 95 questions, so I think I need to post 5 questions before my next answer :p

Lyxal

Do you want to know what would be cool: Java setting instance variables of a class based on the arguments of the constructor called

e.g.

String something;
int anotherThing;
public ClassName(String something, int anotherThing){}

instead of

String something;
int anotherThing;
public ClassName(String parameter, int anotherParameter){
    something = parameter;
    anotherThing = anotherParameter;
}

and, uh, inb4 someone tells me it's actually possible/there's a better way to do things

Wezl

that precious moment where you deserve a badge but it says 29/30 because delays

ChartZ Belatedly

22:30

Dynamic typing ftw :P

Alex bries

Best is to drop java

ChartZ Belatedly

@Wezl Been there :P

rak1507

@Alexbries agreed

Alex bries

DROP TABLE JAVA;

ChartZ Belatedly

I love it when a new user joins the site and begins answering. Not because it means that we've got more interested people, but because the First Posts, VLQ and Late Answers queues actually have stuff in them for once :P

2

Lyxal

22:32

@ChartZBelatedly understandable

ChartZ Belatedly

How else will I get the 572 more First Posts reviews I need to get the Steward badge??? :P

Lyxal

Exactly.

I couldn't agree more

ChartZ Belatedly

Speaking of the Steward badge, I'd be surprised if any ever gets it in the Late Answers queue. Even WW is over 500 away, and there's been a total of 3.4k reviews there since the site started

WW's 45% of the way there, and has been reviewing for 4.5 years now, so I'll expect him to get it in Oct 2026 :P

Lyxal

@ChartZBelatedly who is this "any", and why are they so slow at reviewing things? ;p

ChartZ Belatedly

@Lyxal "any" is what "anyone"'s friends call them :P

Bubbler

22:43

@Alexbries Add CASCADE and you essentially drop all JVM languages :P

Alex bries

@Bubbler, idk is it only my generation that really hates JAVA, maybe we are just too lazy for the long names.

ChartZ Belatedly

Well, you're on code golf and we aren't exactly known to be fans of long code related things...

5

:P

Lyxal

@Alexbries dang I feel old now

ChartZ Belatedly

@Lyxal If there's one thing that can make even an 18yo feel old, it's someone younger than them :P

Alex bries

true, i feel same and i am 19

ChartZ Belatedly

22:52

Man, that's ironic :P

IIRC Lyxal's 18 (or thereabouts)

Alex bries

:p

Lyxal

oh wow that's even more ironic

I'm younger and feel older because I kinda like Java

Bubbler

Liking Java is probably a good thing, because it means you still have lots to learn in the ocean of programming languages :P

Wezl

* Wezl just misspelled friend as fiend

Original Original Original VI

@Lyxal Check out Java 15 records

Transcript for