The Nineteenth Byte

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Neil

12:17 AM

@NewMainPosts I'm pretty sure that you can pick the kingdom nearest the top, draw a road down from either left, below or right of it, and draw roads from above, below or nearside of the other two kingdoms to intersect it, such that they don't form a wide road, thus solving the problem, but I'm not sure enough. maybe I should add a second part to my answer that assumes that my simplified method always works

DLosc

@Razetime The haystack is the left argument, the needle is the right argument.

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Jo King

3:19 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing 12.2%

sporeball

3:36 AM

i may have the lowest percentage so far, at ~4.3%

Razetime

3:49 AM

Luis mendo comes close

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CalculatorFeline

6:22 AM

I wanted to mess with cubical type theory stuff in TIO Agda but it doesn't seem to work :( tio.run/##S0xPSfz/v1pXWcE/…

Razetime

6:54 AM

@CalculatorFeline tio hates imports and stuff, cause its a good way to break the site lol

CalculatorFeline

AFAICT the problem is just that TIO uses 2.5 and cubical stuff wasn't added until 2.6

Although yeah a Hello World program has to import a screenful of files and takes 5~6 seconds because apparently you need stuff like equality to output characters to a screen

Razetime

what in the world

never heard of agda but that sounds funny

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New Meta Posts

8:51 AM

Q: Discussion on the upcoming moderator elections (Sep 2020)

We are scheduled for a moderator election on Sep 14, 2020. A Community Interest Check by SE last November gauged interest in holding and running for January elections for the spots of the two (now three) moderators who resigned. The reaction was quite negative, coupled with the ongoing Monica sit...

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

@Doorknob Hey you recently deleted my answer of mine for not following the specifications of a challenge. However the specifications of the challenge were changed in the time between when I posted it and when it was deleted. My answer was valid prior to the change. Is it really proper for it to be deleted in this case?

Doorknob

surely answers should follow the specification as it's currently written - is there not precedent in the form of edits that invalidate answers taking advantage of unintentional loopholes?

xnor

I do believe that's the consensus. I think it's unfortunate due to cases like this, but votes on that question suggest the community disagrees.

@AdHocGarfHunter What was your answer?

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/90869/56656

The output got shifted by one on multiples of four at some point.

xnor

9:06 AM

So that means you no longer subtract one after summing?

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

Do you mean subtract 3?

xnor

Your answer says "It sums the stack, subtracts one, divides by four, and adds one" and other non-deleted answers seem to be n.Sum()/4+1.

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

Ah I see. I think so. floor and ceiling math is a little annoying.

If I want to fix it I am pretty sure that my original version of the answer does the modern challenge by accident and I "fixed" it before the rules were changed.

xnor

That's funny. It's annoying that the rules were changed, but it looks like this should be an easy change for you.

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

To make it valid yes. But I need to make sure that it is still well golfed.

xnor

9:11 AM

Gotcha

Regardless, for whoever is flagging these, is this really a good use of moderator time? These answers are from more than 4 years ago.

It reminds me of something James (DJ) mentioned in [their resignation](https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/18476/hanging-up-my-diamond):
"I'm no longer moderating, or handling flags. A large contributor to that is because I feel like the majority of flags I see are requests to delete several year old posts that "technically" violate some overly specific combination of rules on meta penned over the last 8 years."

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

Well I fixed the answer. I'll flag it when I've given it a more thorough look.

xnor

What if we had a policy to ignore flags for invalid answers that are more than a year old?

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

I have a flag on a answer that is 2 years old because it has been pending for 2 years.

xnor

I meant on answers more than a a year old

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

Well the answer is more than a year old now.

xnor

9:25 AM

Yeah, that's unfortunate, but I'd be up for the flag being ignored at this point, that is marked complete without action

The situation with unhanded flags has been brought up as a reason to elect more mods, was a contribution to James resigning, and might demotivate people from becoming mods. Yet I wonder how many of these flags are on old answers, which I frankly don't think are worth the effort to check and possibly delete.

@Doorknob What's the flag queue like?

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

Well I think the fact that I've had a flag pending for two years is at least somewhat evidence that things are screwed up.

Doorknob

there are 68 right now

i have had basically no time to handle flags since the other mods resigned (for unrelated life reasons)

Ad Hoc Garf Hunter

Hold up I got the flags confused. It's only been pending since April.

xnor

@Doorknob How important do the flags seem? I was wondering if they are mostly on old questions/answers claiming they should be closed or deleted.

Doorknob

30 of them are "too many comments (auto)", 24 of them are "other", and 14 of them are comment flags

probably more than half of the "other" are of the kind you describe

xnor

9:34 AM

Ok, thanks

The site seems to be running fine to me. Questions having too many comments or unneeded comments doesn't strike me as too important.

I'd be concerned if there were rude comments or spam not being taken of, but I haven't seen that.

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null

11:27 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing 9.2% for me, but it doesn't count because I only have 54 answers!

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New Main Posts

1:15 PM

Q: Lolololololololololololol

Let us take a break from the brain-wrecking questions and answer some of the simpler ones You have recently read something extremely funny, and want to express your laughter to the world! But how can you? Task You have to display the string: Lololololololololololololololololololololololololololol...

code-golf string sequence

hi.

@cairdcoinheringaahing 0%

@NewMainPosts lolololololololololol

@cairdcoinheringaahing Edit: It's now 0.00016129032258064516% since I posted a new answer.

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caird coinheringaahing

4:10 PM

Any feedback on this?

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pppery

8:39 PM

@xnor I was the flagger of that answer, and I flagged it (and two other answers to that question with the same problem) because I care about consistent enforcement of rules.

The entire premise of the Stack Exchange network is that old content is still relevant, and doesn't collapse into a mass of goo.

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Adám

9:51 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing 10%

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xnor

11:05 PM

@pppery I'm with you in theory, but given our current situation with only one mod and an overflowing flag queue, I think it's worth saving flags for more pressing issues.

pppery

Sep 8 at 23:09, by pppery

I stopped raising flags regularly because they stopped getting handled within a reasonable amount of time

I haven't encountered anything I though I should flag other than invalid answers and fixed "this answer is invalid" comments anyway.

(and, for scale, I've only raised 1 flag in September so far, and 4 total in August)

Neil

11:24 PM

@Neil Doesn't work when all the kingdoms lie along the bottom edge. Sigh...

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