@WheatWizard They're mechanically the same thing

in a non-quine challenge are solutions allowed to read their own source code

Sure.

unless specified

@DJMcMayhem Yes, that's why I think the fixed numeric output would be a better idea.

they are the same thing

text output is more challenging

no

because it's more than one number

i have no response to that (not a good thing)

Do you flak?

Does it make sense to mix very short and very long strings? I have a feeling that this will require basically two programs.

true

I needed a text sample that was large to make sure they had the time requirement down

@Christopher I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm stating the facts

@NieDzejkob In brain-flak text output and outputting a list of numbers is just adding the -a flag

Except with -a the numbers can't be negative

yeah

@NieDzejkob i.imgur.com/0chCpuN.png

kinda went past again

just realized that in stack cats if you somehow manage to turn each command into a matrix then pAq where p and q undo each other is essentially just P^-1AP

which can become interesting things

50 by my clock

lol

!!!

???

34 minutes showing for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

umm, wrong one

@Mego huh it literally just said 50

@Christopher yeah your clock is messed up

@Christopher refresh?

And it is fixed now

@Christopher that's called "refresh"

28 minutes for me.

should be 33

I was pinged by 2 mods and an RO about how i am wrong. feelsbadman

anyways gtg

@Christopher mods and ROs are always there for you ;p

@Christopher *2 animals and a talking potato

but seeya

@Mego Will you instantly gain mod powers in half an hour (if you win)?

@Adám roughly, it takes them like 1-5min

@Adám when the annoucement post is made, iirc?

(well, it took like 1-5min on Crypto last week)

ah ok

@Mego yeah, we kinda got lucky on that front :)

@SEJPM this means 6-8 min here

march 1st?

So I looked through the Crypto.SE meta history, we got our first election in June '15, our official graduation in september and the design in december

Much blue, very mod:

hey I just realized we're 3 days from our second-year-graduated-but-without-design celebration!

> graduation in september and the design in december

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@Riker Wow, that must be like a record or something? Do we get an award? A design maybe?

lol

no but seriously we should have a party

@Adám I think anime se has been waiting even longer

but the suggested one for Github is pretty, must say, I'll be 100% on it

do SE timestamps use utc?

@WheatWizard oh yeah I think so

I've been using the userscript design forever now, I forgot the site doesn't have an actual design

lol

ty

It's actually kinda mean that PPCG is big enough to warrant 6 mods and still waits for a design and Crypto still sits on 3 mods with a design for the last 2 years :(

does python have a data type that's like a dict but you can access elements as attributes?

only reason is i don't wanna make a class just for storing data

@Mego in the design userscript, the links are blue, is it on purpose? just asking

@Mego why not?

that looks like what i want

oh that's fine for my use case

thanks!

Countdown to 2 Year Graduation Anniversary (with no design!)

roughly 69 hours left

@labela--gotoa where?

yes I think so though

$ gcc prog.c -O0 -o prog
$ wc -c prog
19144
$ gcc prog.c -O3 -o prog
$ wc -c prog
19144

huh

we experimented with non-blue links but it looked ugly

@betseg eli5?

@Mego, oh sorry, I didn't see it's a fork

@Riker pin-request?

ah

@Mego wait i forgot to press shift while was typing here

not copying

@Mego i did this

@Mego dernit

@totallyhuman *class, sheesh haskell is infecting me

well then I'll just have to trust in TNB's ability to star things

@totallyhuman embrace it

not until i can write neon's interpreter in haskell :P

@Mego wtf, it shows as capital Os when i try to edit the message but it shows as small os in the message feed ಠ_ಠ

@WheatWizard Is this valid per your writeup? codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/155281/…

i feel dirty reading my own sourcecode :\

but that seems to be the only way i can find to reference the other classes in the order they are declared

Yeah seems valid.

dope

We've entered the last 10 minutes of the election. Good luck to all the candidates!

Best of luck everyone!

3 minutes left

hype

It's literally like new year's eve :)

inb4 election dies again

@Mr.Xcoder Nah man, this is much more exciting than New Year's Eve.

@Mr.Xcoder it was new year 4 days ago in the chinese calendar :P

yo dawg I herd u like mods, so I put mods in ur ppcg so u can moderate while golfing

@Pavel Indeed.

Uno minuto

nice, they added the edge-edge case

> New mods coming soon.

:o

> to a ppcg next to you

Overly specific election timer.

If you compare the times given by SE and the one given by the timer, they're extremely close :)

@ATaco it's a standard SE timestamp thingy I think