The Nineteenth Byte

betseg

9:06 PM

woohoo i guess?

totallyhuman

woohoo

caird coinheringaahing

Where did you get that screenshot from?

betseg

@cairdcoinheringaahing codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/56721/betseg?tab=profile

caird coinheringaahing

Ah. Nice!

totallyhuman

huh i hit 400

caird coinheringaahing

9:09 PM

> Top Posts (228)

Nothing interesting for me :/

betseg

woah, you've got 10 posts! nice!

CMC: input n, output n in all bases between 1 and n

caird coinheringaahing

Example?

betseg

6 -> 111111, 110, 20, 12, 11, 10

Mr. Xcoder

Jelly, 3 bytes. 3 bytes

caird coinheringaahing

@betseg Jelly, 2 bytes: bR

betseg

9:14 PM

ninja'd

Erik the Outgolfer

and why not just bR :P

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ Ninja'd due to formatting

Mr. Xcoder

2 bytes.

Duh ninja'd. >_<

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer CMCs are supposed to be overcomplicated :P

totallyhuman

no

mınxomaτ

9:17 PM

This is a terrible idea. Yeah, let's just ignore what the user sets. I've been pulling my hair out for hours because this library keeps compressing things with compression set to none >:(

dzaima

@betseg APL, 25 bytes: {(⍳⍵){0::⍵/1⋄⍺(⊥⍣¯1)⍵}¨⍵}. Many bytes lost due to unary required :/

betseg

finally a real language that i can type

totallyhuman

...you can type apl?

caird coinheringaahing

And not bR? :D

betseg

@totallyhuman ↑∊⌈

(yes in apl keyboard layout)

Erik the Outgolfer

9:20 PM

it's as easy as holding Ctrl and typing "yes"

betseg

i hate github

Mr. Xcoder

o.O why

Zacharý

@betseg Better than bitbucket

caird coinheringaahing

Haha :D

Mr. Xcoder

Lol triple ninja'd.

Zacharý

9:21 PM

At least github lets you use non-ASCII characters without borking

betseg

if i mouse over the files, the pale blue background stays forever even after clicking the file and coming back

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

string code-golf Chiasmus Indenter Chiasmus is a literary form that is similar to palindromes. Some ideas are presented and then presented again in reverse order, often phrased differently. Natural language processing is hard, so I'll be using a more computer-friendly definition. A chiasmic st...

betseg

@betseg too annoying

totallyhuman

ಠ_ಠ

Zacharý

How long do you think this program'll run for?

betseg

9:22 PM

bitbucket doesnt have this so bb > gh

totallyhuman

@Zacharý which?

betseg

@Zacharý which

Zacharý

@betseg gh > bb.

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Here you are: ಠ_ಠ

MD XF

@betseg and that's a reason to hate the most popular Git hosting service on the internet?

Mr. Xcoder

9:23 PM

@Zacharý Yet MY is on bb :P

Erik the Outgolfer

@dzaima 22: {⍵∘⍴¨@1⊢1,⊥⍣¯1∘⍵¨1↓⍳⍵}

totallyhuman

goddamn semantic satiation

Zacharý

def pX():
 for i in X:
  for j in X:
    if 0<=float(i+j)<=7 and not(i+j in X):
     X.append(i+j)
     return pX()
    if 0<=float(i-j)<=7 and not(i-j in X):
     X.append(i-j)
     return pX()
 return 0

betseg

@MDXF in gitlab cgit or even in bitbucket i spend more time in file browser because of this

Zacharý

@Mr.Xcoder I don't want people to see my github...

caird coinheringaahing

9:24 PM

@totallyhuman Haha, 24 hours and 6 minutes ago I sent the same thing: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240?m=42761580#42761580

totallyhuman

@Zacharý ... i don't get it, are you golfing it or not?

betseg

^^^^too annoying

dzaima

@EriktheOutgolfer yeaah I was too lazy to work that out :p

Zacharý

@totallyhuman No, I'm running it.

And here's the code before it:

Mr. Xcoder

@betseg Python 2, 82 bytes Try It Online! Assumes we aren't required to handle unary.

Zacharý

9:25 PM

import sympy
X = list(map(sqrt,range(50)))

betseg

rip dzaima's apl answer then

Zacharý

Do the numbers have to be integers for this CMC?

betseg

yes

Mr. Xcoder

90 bytes handling Unary (kinda)

mınxomaτ

→ 3 messages moved to Trash

Zacharý

9:27 PM

@Zacharý Does anyone know how long this will take?

totallyhuman

buzzkill :(

betseg

@Mr.Xcoder 88 Try it online!

caird coinheringaahing

Did you know that Python can do symbolic multiplication just like Mathematica :P

(Yes I know why it happens)

Mr. Xcoder

@betseg Yeah of course

Zacharý

Did you at least leave one "Why?"

Mr. Xcoder

9:28 PM

Yes they did

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing but you're relying on somebody not knowing it? :P

dzaima

I need some program that when I click some key combination it tells me the byte & char count of the clipboard :p

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's fun to mess with languages :P

Erik the Outgolfer

@dzaima and now 20: {(⊂⍵⍴1),⊥⍣¯1∘⍵¨1↓⍳⍵}

Mr. Xcoder

Although I can surely be outgolfed, I am pretty happy with my solution

DJMcMayhem

9:30 PM

@totallyhuman No need to insult ROs for doing their job

totallyhuman

i'm not insulting, sorry if i sounded like that

i just don't see the point; it was funny, accidental and deleting it only brought more attention to it

Erik the Outgolfer

and now 17: {⊂⍵⍴1},⊢⊥⍣¯1¨⍨1↓⍳

Anonymous

@totallyhuman It was done for the same reason that editing/trashing duplicate oneboxes is done: to save screen space and reduce noise

dzaima

@EriktheOutgolfer good god that's a lot of tacit that I can't comprehend

totallyhuman

and also adds to my trashed message count, which seems to be a big concern

mınxomaτ

9:32 PM

The point was: a) What the penguin said, b) prevent the star spammer(s) from re-starring it.

Poke

we should make a "Nineteenth Meta" where people can take conversations about conversations

totallyhuman

anyways nvm forget i ever said that, not like i'll be able to change much

Mr. Xcoder

Now I am even more satisfied that my current base conversion algo is 41 bytes and my previous attempt (with Erik, a few months ago) was 44

Poke

because those conversations just increase noise

/s

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah we can't actually make meta chat rooms hosted by PPCG, there's no "PPCG Meta" host yet

Poke

9:34 PM

well it wouldn't need to be hosted on meta

betseg

Poke

:]

betseg

@dzaima ^^

Anonymous

@betseg Shorter: wc -cm < /dev/clipboard

Pavel

$ cat /dev/clipboard
cat: /dev/clipboard: No such file or directory

betseg

9:34 PM

@Mego xclip -o|wc -cm is shorter

Zacharý

I'm trying to create a somewhat continuous game of chess, where instead of discrete squares, you deal with a host of algebraic numbers, described by the code below. And ... I realize now how insane the amount of numbers is

dzaima

@betseg windows :/ and does that bind to a keybind?

totallyhuman

no but you could

betseg

@dzaima you can assign an alias in bash

Pavel

@Mego What systems have /dev/clipboard?

dzaima

9:37 PM

@betseg I want it on some very short shortcut so switching tabs is way too much work :p

oh right AHK exists

betseg

when i press super+p it shows this notification

Erik the Outgolfer

uh, that looks like android to me

totallyhuman

that's most definitely not android

Erik the Outgolfer

how do you "press super" in android

betseg

@EriktheOutgolfer gnome with adapta theme which was inspired by the material design used in android

Anonymous

9:41 PM

@Pavel I guess it's just a cygwin thing

totallyhuman

just about to ask what theme it was lol

A.B.

Hello all! I apologize that this is a little off-topic... what is the main stackoverflow chatroom called? Is there one? I cannot find, unless I am just really tired

Anonymous

@A.B. I don't know if SO has a general discussion room. Regardless, SO rooms are at chat.stackoverflow.com

Anonymous

Which is one of the more insane decisions made by SE

A.B.

Meh, blocked by work filter

caird coinheringaahing

9:43 PM

Q: Is there a way to see all your messages in a certain chat room?

dzaima

@cairdcoinheringaahing IIRC no, I've tried

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing Scrape the transcripts?

betseg

TNBDE?

Erik the Outgolfer

@A.B. I don't think it has a general discussion room...

dzaima

@betseg that's only for TNB :p

caird coinheringaahing

9:44 PM

@betseg Nah, it's for the Trash room

totallyhuman

1 min ago, by Mego

@A.B. I don't know if SO has a general discussion room. Regardless, SO rooms are at https://chat.stackoverflow.com

A.B.

Meh, though I'd ask. You guys on here and probably nicer anyway

caird coinheringaahing

> ← ← 15 messages moved [...]

Erik the Outgolfer

...and? I'm just putting my 2¢ in too

caird coinheringaahing

Double message move :P

Anonymous

9:46 PM

@A.B. SObotics and the Python room tend to be pretty nice

Pavel

Nice? On SO? Can't be.

Anonymous

@Pavel As long as you're not all "gimme teh codez" or "idk google", SO tends to be pretty nice

Erik the Outgolfer

well of course help vampires aren't welcome, it's a SE rule after all :P

A.B.

I disagree; I swear people upvote/downvote randomly with a much heavier lean towards downvote D:

At least that's been my experience...

moonheart08

I avoid downvotes. :P

Maybe you're thinking of reddit? :p

Anonymous

9:49 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer The same people who don't bother to look for dupes or google things before asking are usually the same ones who don't bother to read the FAQ or Tour, and so don't know that help vampires are not welcome

totallyhuman

@betseg oh this is extremely nice thanks

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego it's their fault then ;-)

there's a giant banner on the front of the page with a button to take the tour

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer Why read when you can waste others' time instead? :P

Erik the Outgolfer

hey, why have "rules" at all? let's make a mess everybody! let's post unlimited spam and get rewarded for it! :P no, let's take it a step further and let people hack others' accounts too

yeah, I can't understand the logic of people who just don't read rules, no offense

Wheat Wizard

Lets be honest it doesn't help that our help center is actually misleading as to what the site does

totallyhuman

9:57 PM

honest? you'd have to be insane to say everything in SE works for PPCG :P

Erik the Outgolfer

in our specific case, yeah

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Build a Brainfuck transpiler Your job is to build a program that transpiles valid brainfuck to a language (not brainfuck!) of your choice. You are not required to handle cases where the program is invalid (mismatched [ ]s), or contains characters that are not +-<>[],. but all other cases must b...

Poke

I like PAX's six rules

Erik the Outgolfer

what's pax

Poke

1. DRUGS ARE BAD
2. DON’T STEAL
3. DON’T PUNCH OR KICK PEOPLE
4. NO CHEATING
5. DON’T HARASS ANYONE
6. DON’T MESS WITH THINGS THAT AREN’T YOURS

totallyhuman

9:59 PM

paxvapor.com

lol

Erik the Outgolfer

oh I thought it was some forum

totallyhuman

no that's not what poke's referring to, i just was remarking on what the first google result is

Poke

Pax is a convention specifically for comics, anime, video games, cosplay, etc

totallyhuman

@Poke i like how it says drugs are bad instead of don't do drugs

Erik the Outgolfer

@Poke uh, that looks unrelated to me

Poke

10:03 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer It's completely unrelated to SE if that's what you mean

@totallyhuman They have clarifications west.paxsite.com/safety-accessibility#the-six-rules-of-pax

totallyhuman

imgur.com/gallery/1FSC5 and the first comment

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Q: Golfing Dictionary

Foreword Coder's frequently create programs that fulfills little to no purpose (looking at you code golfers). They do it for "fun." So, for some reason, you have taken it upon yourself to create a dictionary. I have noticed that there seems to be no fetching a definition and it sounded like a ...

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caird coinheringaahing

@NewMainPosts What's the best VTC reason for that? Too broad?

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing I like to use darts to decide

caird coinheringaahing

You must go through computers immensely fast :D

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