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6:00 PM
@totallyhuman Newlines :P
 
^ otherwise C would support it.
// totally // nested // (tm)
altho..
 
@DJMcMayhem right then python doesn't :P
 
// obscure \
C \
features \
hurt \
your \
head
 
not obscure to me :P
 
6:01 PM
also click fixed button or ctrl+k
gives you multi-line code
 
test
oh
So does that mean i can embed the entirety of the V8 javascript engine into chat? /s
 
@DJMcMayhem idk, I've been taught that calling Jewish people 'jews' is considered rude. Also, most of that sentence is quoted directly from Tolkien, so it can't be badly worded :p
 
This is when we really need Adam :/
 
@J.Sallé Hmmm. IMO it's very similar to using the term "black" to refer to someone who's African American. It isn't inherently wrong or offensive, but since it can be used derogatorily, (and frequently is), a different term would be preferred
And it's also similar because some people would be offended and others wouldn't. It really comes down to the individual
But I guess that's true of any term
 
:o i just realized triple-clicking my touchpad inside a textbox pastes
 
6:09 PM
@DJMcMayhem indeed it is.
 
@DJMcMayhem How dare you, you hat-wearing cat! :P
 
D':
 
Q: What is a language that supports functions called? Functional?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing decent!
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Normal
 
6:18 PM
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As in Python without classes
 
Python isn't a functional language
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Python without classes
 
Removing features won't make it functional
 
Isn't it something like procedural?
 
Yep
 
6:19 PM
@Pavel nobody said that :P
 
C is Procedural
 
Isn't procedural the contrary of OO languages?
Or is that structured? I can never recall
 
@J.Sallé Not necessarily. C++ is procedural OOP.
Procedural is basically when you tell the compiler step by step what instructions to execute..
 
What would a language that can only describe the relation between objects be called? (As in, it can't perform standard computation like you'd expect, it has to find a way to describe it as a relation between objects, like a and b -> c)
 
@Pavel I see.
@moonheart08 useless? >.>
 
6:21 PM
@moonheart08 Pure OOP?
 
tip: if you want quick mathjax, you can use @MathBot in the discord server and copy it over
:P
 
That does sound useless though.
 
@J.Sallé Nah, i think might know how to make it turing. It's a concept i've been throwing around
 
@DJMcMayhem Q: Just to confirm, you are male?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes
 
6:21 PM
 
@moonheart08 Like UML? (I don't really know UML)
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes
 
@PhiNotPi Or json
 
@moonheart08 Like Prolog? (Declarative)
 
Precisely. I knew my idea wasn't unique, just couldn't pin it down lol
I think of all sorts of things when reading you guy's answers to things.
 
6:25 PM
A diagram I found on the wiki page for programming paradigms.
I'm sure it means something, not sure what.
 
what
 
@DJMcMayhem Once you get the gold review badge, can you stop reviewing? I kinda miss it... :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Hahaha
Maybe ;)
Hopefully I'll be busy with mod reviews instead
 
As a mod, I don't think it would be right to stop reviewing :P
 
@PhiNotPi this is awesome actually
basically you follow the primitives your language has
the shaded boxes encompass overall paradigms (e.g. functional)
then at the end of each path are specific ones
 
6:38 PM
Question: Regarding command line flags, is there any difference between - and --?
 
Anonymous
@Mr.Xcoder Programs are free to interpret flags however they wish. However, in POSIX land, - is usually followed by a single character (a "short flag"), and -- is usually followed by multiple characters (a "long flag"). For setting values, it's usually done like -a foo and --something=foo.
 
Anonymous
Also in POSIX land, combining short flags is usually allowed (-abc instead of -a -b -c)
 
Ok, thanks. I thought about char vs string but didn't know exactly what the difference is.
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ChristopherFibbiprime is fibbdivine Given a positive integer N that is > 0 return the Nth fibbiprime number. Fibbiprime A fibbiprime number is created by multiplying the first N prime numbers together. However because 2 and 3 are primes that do not conform to most mathematical prime rules they are NOT in...

Any thoughts?
 
Anonymous
Short version: use optparse in Python, or whatever library there is for whatever language you're using :P
 
6:42 PM
ah that makes sense
 
optparse is deprecated IIRC
 
Anonymous
> 2 and 3 are primes that do not conform to most mathematical prime rules
 
Anonymous
What does that mean?
 
Anonymous
@Mr.Xcoder Err, argparse
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
6:43 PM
@Mego Optparse is amazing
 
Anonymous
Forgot the name momentarily
 
@DJMcMayhem ... But deprecated since 2.7
 
@Mego most patterns for primes do not apply to 2 and 3
 
Oh wait
I haven't used optparse
 
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A: How to read/process command line arguments?

Ayman HouriehPlease note that optparse was deprecated in version 2.7 of Python: http://docs.python.org/2/library/optparse.html. argparse is the replacement: http://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse.html#module-argparse There are the following modules in the standard library: The getopt module is simil...

 
6:44 PM
I was thinking of docopt
 
Anonymous
@Christopher Also why the name? Also why more prime challenges?
 
Docopt is amazing
 
Anonymous
@Christopher
 
@Christopher What prime pattern doesn't apply for 3?
 
@Mego things to make and do in the 4th dimension
@Mego placeholder
 
Anonymous
6:45 PM
@Christopher That does not answer my question in the slightest. In fact, it only adds more questions.
 
and i like prime numbers
Really good book
 
Anonymous
Also product of first N primes is probably a dupe of first N primes/Nth prime, since product of a list is a trivial addition
 
rip fibbiprime
 
Anonymous
@Christopher Once again, that response is completely useless to me. I'm not going to buy a book in lieu of getting a straight answer from you.
 
@Mego no that was the citation :P, one sec
 
6:47 PM
For Triangularity (which is interpreted in Python), I want to use a command line flag that formats the program for me. Is it ok to use sys.argv or I should use argparse or something else?
 
Anonymous
@Mr.Xcoder I highly suggest argparse, because it makes adding more flags later so much easier
 
Ok, I'll follow your advice.
 
@Mego i don't have the book on me but I can send you the source, I changed the challenge a bit
 
@Mego argparse is also confusing af
 
Anonymous
@Christopher It's still a dupe. You're just layering more primality tests on it.
 
6:50 PM
what's confusing about it?
 
@Mego :( removing
 
Anonymous
Also I second Lynn's opinion in the earlier post I linked: please, for the love of goat, no more uncreative challenges about primes.
 
I like prime numbers :P
 
Anonymous
Sure, and they're cool and stuff. But they're also super played-out on PPCG. Same for Fibonacci numbers and generalized quines. There's so many other cool sets of numbers in number theory.
 
@quartata It's fine if you have really simple options, but it becomes argument group hell very quickly.
 
6:52 PM
Why are all my ideas played-out and dupes? @Brain
 
Did you just ping your brain?
 
yes
gets hit in the head with a bell
 
@Mego How to generate PPCG challenges: oeis.org/webcam
 
@Pavel dupe of one OEIS after another
 
@Christopher Not at all.
 
6:54 PM
Joke :|
 
Wasn't funny
 
@Christopher WeHateFunHere
:D
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing That is SO :|
@DJMcMayhem you here?
There is a bug and it makes my answer invalid
 
@Mego It was actually Brain-flack (Brain-hack)
 
6:57 PM
And I cracked it :P
 
in Proton, 9 secs ago, by Feeds
Dennis has unfrozen this room.
 
The OP has rewritten this challenge, but I still find it as clear as mud. Is it better for anyone else?
 
CMC: mode of a list of integers
 
@Christopher As always
 
@totallyhuman ._.
 
6:57 PM
@DJMcMayhem Good. the debug flag is not working for inserting a number
 
@lt i think it is
 
@totallyhuman That's actually a very interesting challenge for Triangularity :D
 
@Christopher Ok. TBH, I don't really use (or like) the debug flags, so I'm not sure how much help I could be
 
@DJMcMayhem it is bug
 
6:59 PM
I know
 
I kinda needed it to work for a answer :P, anyway you can fix it? or should I attempt?
 
@totallyhuman PowerShell, 36 bytes
 
@totallyhuman Husk, 2 bytes: ►=. (Maximum under equality)
 
Probably can be golfed
 
@Christopher But good luck getting me to fix it. IMO the debug flags are unused reminders of his bloated and crappy the Ruby interpreter is
 
7:00 PM
@DJMcMayhem you should fix it :)
 
-3
Q: Find the most frequent value

Hemin Rana can someone please help me to solve this, and I have spent a lot of time to try to solve it.

 
ಠ_ಠ
 
little slow there NMP?
 
33 bytes -- ($args[0]|group|sort c*)[-1].Name
 
@DJMcMayhem nvm it works
turns out ther is no bug
 
7:04 PM
Oh. Well then OK
 
@totallyhuman Mathematica: Commonest
10/10 builtin naming
 
wrong ping :P
 
@Christopher Also wrong room. talk.tryitonline.net
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
woop woop woop
 
7:11 PM
penguin is happy!
 
ofc I don't understand argparse \o/
 
Tip of the day: Don't use rust's std::any::Any unless you absolutely need to. It's a quick escape from other problems that should be solved in other ways. If you're writing pluggable or modular code, however, it's probably a necessity. Keep it thin.
 
0
A: Deranged Rearrangements

ChristopherBrain-Flak, -d ∞ <>({}[()])({}@lt3) <>({}[()])({}@lt1) <>({}[()])({}@lt2) Shown with n=3 Try it online!

I think that is valid but if not will someone tell me (before downvotes) so I can remove?
 
I question its validity...
 
7:23 PM
no, I confirmed it's invalid, what do the empty lines do?
 
opps nothing
 
@Christopher It is most definitely invalid.
 
didn't notice the factorial by N
 
and also what Martin said, it must output 6 different numbers 1-6 (3!) for n=3, not just 6 different outputs
 
I just noticed the output rule thingy
@WheatWizard damn that challenge is HARD in brain-flak
 
7:28 PM
It's hard in most languages
 
He said It could be done in brain-flak
I have an idea
 
Well (()) works in Brain-flak for a score of 1
 
I have a score of 2
working on 3+
 
A sender has problems emailing to us. Ask my user to have sender get in contact with their IT department. Sender replies back (via fax) "We don't have an IT department." FML
 
wat
 
Anonymous
7:31 PM
@AdmBorkBork The 1980s called; they want their fax machine back
 
@Mego beat me to it ):
 
I suppose if you can't email someone, faxing them is the next best thing, right?
 
I'll take my fax machine joke, thanks.
 
@AdmBorkBork I think technically carrier pigeons are preferred.
 
@Mego screee boop beep screeee click click no
(dial up)
 
7:33 PM
C# Linq CMC: Given x and y, yield (0,0), (0,1), (0,2)...(0,y),(1,0),(1,1),...(1,y),...(x,0),(x,1)...(x,y)
 
Isn't that just a double for loop?
 
Anonymous
@Christopher Dial-up or Skrillex? :P
 
@Mego both ^-^
wow that is a new emoji. highbrow eyebrow
 
emoticon?
 
fineee
 
7:35 PM
*emote
you mean emote
everything else is inferior
 
@AdmBorkBork Right, but I'm trying to iterate over it with a single foreach loop using Linq
 
I am done with people these days
@Mego At least i have you :P
 
@Christopher Disclaimer, I have not scored more than 2 myslelf
 
@WheatWizard :|
 
But infinity should be possible
 
7:36 PM
yeah
 
Anonymous
@Christopher You don't get to be done with people until you go through at least 3 major technological revolutions
 
@Christopher I'm pretty sure Mego is pathos. On that note, we're all pathos. walks out
 
@Mego Wait, what exactly is your criteria? How many have I been through?
 
@moonheart08 I would be memos
Yeah otherwise (i think so) nobody here can be done
@Mego VTC as unclear
 
@Mego I went from email to fax, does that count as -1?
 
Anonymous
7:38 PM
@AdmBorkBork Yes
 
Definition of pathos: An injoke from bay12 forums that @moonheart08 likes to use to confuse people
 
Woo, I'm four steps away!
 
I went from no internet to internet to highspeed
 
Anonymous
@DJMcMayhem Cell phones -> internet -> smart phones counts
 
I'm stuck a few years backwards in time. 3mbps at best, usually 1.5mbps. They call it broadband.
 
7:38 PM
haha
I just got upgraded to 25, we are paying for 20 mind you and always get 24 min
Also no worries about net neutrality
 
xkcd.com/1953 holy onebox
 
Ah good, xkcd does onebox
 
@betseg you realize we all read that already?
 
no
 
@moonheart08 120 baud modem in 2018
 
7:41 PM
Everything you don't want to onebox will onebox. Everything you want to onebox won't onebox
@Οurous wat
 
@Christopher I haven't
 
@Christopher I haven't
 
dammit english language
I meant read (say it reed), as in present tense
 
@Mego Just barely squeaking in then
 
Hey that would include me XD
 
7:42 PM
@Christopher Makes sense, I just hoped you weren't missing the obvious
 
Flip-phone -> internet -> smartphone
@WheatWizard yeah
does every line have to be the same?
or can I have a 2 line pair
 
No, if your score isn't infinite
And it would be impossible anyway if they'd all be identical.
 
@Mego Gosh darn you young people, using your doodahs and whatjimacallits. When I was a lad, all I had was 2 Xboxs and 3 computers! :P
 
You wouldn't be able to have n! combinations
 
ahh
 
7:45 PM
@Christopher also i posted it because its related about what we were talking about
baader-meinhof
 
Still hate english language
Can we VTC as unclear?
@WheatWizard just you wait, I am going to make a infinite score one (or a 3)
 
@betseg What the crap, I just learned about that yesterday and now it's popping up again ._o_O
 
When I was a kid, you had to take the phone off the hook and put it on an acoustic coupler to dial out to your BBS of choice.
 
@Christopher Good luck. I'd love to see a score of >3
 
@DJMcMayhem meta-baader-meinhof phenomenon
 
7:46 PM
23 hours ago, by AdmBorkBork
And now, you'll encounter the name again tomorrow and go "Whoa."
 
@WheatWizard yeah
 
@AdmBorkBork I sorta halfway expected that to happen sometime relatively soon, but I didn't expect it to be literally the next day
 
@WheatWizard (@ltN) has a score of 2
 
I wonder if the baadur minehoph whatever you call it thingamajig happens more often to people who are aware of it (confirmation bias)
 
@DJMcMayhem also welcome to yesterday's 10000!
 
7:49 PM
@Christopher You mean {}(@ltN)?
 
@WheatWizard i mean sure
 
I'd also prefer answers that don't use -d. You certainly don't need it if you are just using @lt
 
How could I not use @lt
 
(()()()...)?
 
If WW counts that as valid I am fine with that
only reason I had -d was for @lt
 
7:51 PM
Why wouldn't that be valid?
It's perfectly normal brain-flak
 
idk just the way other answers were
bf>bf
(removal of all geobits bots)
 
DJMcMayhem is right, that's perfectly fine.
 
ok I will continue to use @lt for now because it is a hell of a lot easier for programminbg
 
PSA v2: Please upvote this is very interesting and I want to give it the bounty
 
18 hours ago, by Dennis
Anyway, a user's activity level should in no way influence how you vote for their posts.
That is the same user that was you talked about upvoting because of activity
 
7:56 PM
18 hours ago, by MD XF
It was just a side note
18 hours ago, by MD XF
Regardless of the user it's a great answer
 
you still posted it less than 24 hours ago, chatiquette said only once per day post a link.
 
It actually doesn't say that
 
@Christopher Here is 3
 
Meta says:
> I don't want to set any hard and fast numbers, but if you are sharing links to your posts more than 3-4 times a day
 
@WheatWizard GAHHH
@DJMcMayhem opp
@WheatWizard gahhhhhhh cmon man
 
8:00 PM
@Christopher it's also not their own post
 
@totallyhuman scroll up
@WheatWizard can you use @lt for clarity?
 
@Christopher What do you mean?
Your use of you is ambiguous
 
in the snippit you send of n=3 can you replace the numbers in the code with @ltN so it is readable?
 
There is no snippet larger than 2
 
wait so what did you send me?
 
8:06 PM
I don't think @lt is going to improve readability
 
clever code man
ohh i see what you idd
i have been spending over an hour here
still can't get n=3
 
If you want to get infinity the way you are going to have to do it is to implement a permutation counter.
 
Ok "have to" is a bit strong. But it's probably the easy way
 
i had an idea
i literally have 2 min to code :(
imma think about it
ttyl
 
8:32 PM
Sorry mods ):
 
I need a name for a tool which helps to produce fat binaries. Sadly, fatbin is already taken :/.
 
Anonymous
@mınxomaτ lardbin?
 
Hm. Doesn't have the same ring to it IMO
 
8:45 PM
@mınxomaτ mcbin
 

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