The Nineteenth Byte

Mr. Xcoder

17:00

@LuisMendo Sandboxed.

Anonymous

Actually nowadays I just make Travis automagically upload to PyPI on build successes :P

NieDzejkob

@Mego I hope it's only on the master branch

caird coinheringaahing

Q: What is this in your opinion?

Anonymous

@NieDzejkob Naturally :) Also only one of the environments in the build matrix does the upload so that I don't get like 6 simultaneous uploads

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Some kind of street / road.

If it is intended to be a road, then it looks really good.

caird coinheringaahing

17:04

@Mr.Xcoder Good, that's what I'm aiming for :P

ಠ_ಠ SE mangles box drawing characters

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing Even in a code block?

caird coinheringaahing

Yes ಠ_ಠ

Mr. Xcoder

Ouch :(

Anonymous

Strange

Anonymous

Complain on Mother Meta?

Mr. Xcoder

17:06

ಠ_ಠ SE shall use monospaced fonts for code blocks

caird coinheringaahing

My road now looks like this

Mr. Xcoder

Same here

writes a letter of complaint on Mother Meta :P

caird coinheringaahing

It's the use of the ⋅ character ಠ_ಠ

Mr. Xcoder

The title should be "Please use monospaced fonts IN CODE BLOCKS!"

J. Sallé

@cairdcoinheringaahing clearly part of a pacman map.

caird coinheringaahing

17:10

Q: Better or worse?

Mr. Xcoder

Worse :(

But it should look better on SE

J. Sallé

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well since Pacman now ate every bit, probably better?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Generate all square sub-matrices of a given size code-golf matrix array-manipulation You will be given a square matrix of integers M and another positive integer N, smaller than the size of M. Your task is to generate all square sub-matrices of M of size N. For the purposes of this challenge,...

Pavel

@Mego No, I tried, it to me it's not a thing anymore.

Anonymous

@Pavel Huh. I dunno what Travis uses

Mr. Xcoder

17:19

"Best of PPCG 2017" ends tomorrow.

caird coinheringaahing

And I'm not winning anything. Best pull out some great posts this year :D

Mr. Xcoder

I am winning one category as far as I can tell (Gotcha caird! :P)

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ

Although, most of my voted for are winning :P

ಠ_ಠ Bolded box drawing characters are shown as just normal box drawing characters

moonheart08

17:43

That was fun

How'd i do? :P

Christopher

Going to take my try at the PLQ

Pavel

@Mego Can you help me out a bit more? I uploaded the package to pypi (and since removed it), but when I installed it, I could import the module, but the module was completely empty.

Anonymous

@Pavel I recommend looking at Seriously's setup

Pavel

@Mego Thanks.

@Mego I seem to have everything except entry_points, but I should have that, right?

Do I need anything in __init__.py?

Anonymous

@Pavel entry_points is for console scripts, so you probably don't need it

Anonymous

17:55

@Pavel Blank should be fine

Pavel

Hmmmmm

Mr. Xcoder

@Christopher PLQ?

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder programming language quiz

totallyhuman

that's a lot of people asking what PLQ is o0

Mr. Xcoder

I am very surprised nobody cracked my latest submission yet

Pavel

17:58

@Mego I also need a new name (i fucked up with PyPi), thoughts?

Anonymous

@Pavel entrypointer

Pavel

cool, thanks

Christopher

@cairdcoinheringaahing same :P

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder I immediately recognized it as almost-Objective-C :P

Pavel

@Mego Damn, taken

Christopher

18:00

the freaking clock in conways game is going to beat me in 2 categories

@Pavel P!Pwhy

Anonymous

@Pavel grand-entrance

caird coinheringaahing

@Christopher It is an outstanding answer

Christopher

Still doesn't mean I can't be sad :P

Anonymous

Why can I think of names for Python packages so easily, but yet it's been 3 months and I still have no good ideas for PPCG v2 :/

Christopher

@Mego :|

Mr. Xcoder

18:02

@Mego Seems pretty close, right? Except ObjC doesn’t have begin(

Anonymous

If we haven't come up with a good name by April, I'm just going to declare its name to be Programming Penguin & Code Goat

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder Wait a second...

Mr. Xcoder

Oh no... :C

moonheart08

RIP @Mr.Xcoder

He revealed too much

Anonymous

No, my thought was wrong, I think

Mr. Xcoder

18:04

hopes Mego didn’t get it

moonheart08

He could have let us assume it was a function, but no

Pavel

@Mego It didn't work. Can you try? github.com/pavelbraginskiy/ismain If you give me your pypi username I can add you as an owner of startpoint

Anonymous

Also if my thought was correct, it would be a royal pain to test

Pavel

Oh, crap, I commited the egginfo file

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder lol

Poke

18:05

i almost didn't get last place in the categories i was nominated for

Mr. Xcoder

^^^^ MWAHAHA

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder I think I know it

Christopher

uh oh

Mr. Xcoder

Let’s see... Uh oh

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder you realize we have reply button right?

Mr. Xcoder

18:08

@Christopher I do, I am just reluctant about pinging people just to say MWAHAHA

And also... mobile

Christopher

Ah and ahh

My answer is going to be so lone :/

Adám

@Dennis @ThomasWard @ThomasWard @MartinEnder Can you give John Daintree write access to The APL Orchard?

Thomas Ward

1 moment

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Two pings for Thomas O_o

Christopher

very important person

Adám

18:10

@Mr.Xcoder Oops.

El'endia Starman

Ping Thomas Ward twice just to make sure he gets it!

Martin Ender

@Adám they don't have a chat account, or even an SE account outside Stack Overflow, I don't think that's possible for us

Christopher

I feel uncomfortable with so many mods :P

Thomas Ward

@Adám they need to visit the SE chat

or have an SE account

we can't create their access if they don't yet have a chat.se account

Mr. Xcoder

@Christopher Any reason why?

Adám

18:11

@ThomasWard OK, hang on.

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder not actually it was jjoke "|

Thomas Ward

@Adám we also can't give them just access with just an SO account since that sits on the chat.so system and not chat.se

Pavel

@Mego I also gave you push access to the repository

Thomas Ward

(system forbids)

@El'endiaStarman and in turn, summon and unleash ALL THE EVIL DARKNESS UPON THE WORLD!

Adám

@ThomasWard Is just going to the chat room url enough?

Christopher

18:12

@ThomasWard your avatar is so eye catching :P

Thomas Ward

@Adám he may need to register on a site

Poke

@Christopher supernovas will do that

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám they actually sound like one though :P

Thomas Ward

I'd suggest he just sign in on PPCG but

Adám

@ThomasWard He is on SO.

Erik the Outgolfer

18:13

@Adám what?

Mr. Xcoder

Ok if Mego didn’t get it by now, their guess was probably wrong.

Christopher

@Poke :P

Martin Ender

@Adám SO is separate from the other SE sites.

moonheart08

The R16K1S60 is suprisingly good at golfing and general computation for a 16-bit computer built inside a game. If you go read the manual, there is a brainfuck compiler, for example. It's even more impressive that it does it with only 1024 bytes of RAM

caird coinheringaahing

God, this conversation is confusing :/

Thomas Ward

18:13

@Adám don't forget SO has its own site

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder WAIT, their guess??

Thomas Ward

@Adám chat.stackoverflow.com == SO

Martin Ender

SO has it's own chat instance on chat.stackoverflow.com. Accounts there and on the rest of SE are separate.

Erik the Outgolfer

@ThomasWard asks a christian to unleash dark powers

Thomas Ward

yep

Mr. Xcoder

18:14

@Christopher Yes, I don’t wanna make any kind of gender assumptions.

Thomas Ward

@Adám have them reg / sign-in / link accounts with ppcg.

that'll give them a PPCG account we can use as the base.

Poke

I'm surprised that wasn't sorted out as part of the https move

Thomas Ward

then provide user profile URL here.

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder I think we can safely say the mego is male. He has mentioned things like his wife and his voice is definitely male

Poke

women can have wives too

caird coinheringaahing

18:15

Women can have wives

But I agree with the voice

Mr. Xcoder

^^^, ^^, ^

Christopher

Yes but probability would lean towards someone with a wife is male

El'endia Starman

Personally, I tend to use gender-neutral pronouns for people on the Internet. And typically, I choose to use they/them/their.

DLosc

@Mr.Xcoder Is that your new esolang? :D

Mr. Xcoder

@DLosc Lol no :)

Poke

18:16

@El'endiaStarman just be careful not to assume someone's plurality

:]?

Mr. Xcoder

I just agreed with those messages :P

caird coinheringaahing

Unless they themselves have stated their gender, I always use 'they/their/them'

Mr. Xcoder

@El'endiaStarman Same!

Christopher

Interesting

Adám

@ThomasWard All set?

Mr. Xcoder

18:18

I’ve finished writing the Triangularity Esolangs article today, and its development is probably going to stagnate for a while.

Christopher

ninja'd

Erik the Outgolfer

@Poke eh

Conor O'Brien

I was thinking abut making this a pop-con, due to the nature of making a language. Thoughts?

caird coinheringaahing

That reminds me, I should write about 10 esolangs pages :P

Thomas Ward

@Adám done

Anonymous

18:19

@Christopher Also the fact that I've said I'm male on multiple occasions :P

Poke

@EriktheOutgolfer I'm aware. It was more of a joke than anything else.

caird coinheringaahing

> Your score is the total number of bytes required to solve these tasks.

I agree with that

Christopher

@Mego that may give it away

Adám

@ThomasWard Thanks. He's our chief architect.

Poke

@ConorO'Brien whoa there. half the community here hates popcons. be careful

Pavel

18:19

@Mego Also that you're Ryan R on GitHub

Thomas Ward

@Adám he needs to type something and say hi :)

he is listed as explicit write but i want to test

caird coinheringaahing

My argument that Mego could be female is steadily losing speed :P

Conor O'Brien

@Poke you don't say :P

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing lol

moonheart08

Thats odd. On meta my rep is 131, but everywhere else it's 161. I'll just assume stack exchange had a hicup :P

caird coinheringaahing

18:20

Caching

moonheart08

Probably. I forgot browsers cache :P

DJMcMayhem

@moonheart08 Should you blame caching?

Mr. Xcoder

I knew that Mego was a man but I forgot I was talking about a specific person so I used they, as I usually do on the internet

moonheart08

@DJMcMayhem Definitely

Erik the Outgolfer

@ThomasWard oh, what a kind gesture to trash the messages for Adám

DJMcMayhem

18:21

@Mr.Xcoder I think using they on the internet never hurts, even if you're fairly certain about gender

Mr. Xcoder

Yeah, sure it doesn’t

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder How dare you call Mego a man? What if they actually identify as attack helicopter?

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem thats what they want you to think

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing I identify as a male robot penguin

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing ;-;

totallyhuman

18:23

and i identify as a human

Christopher

@Mego what do you mean identify. You are one

Poke

@Mego How do you feel about the use of the pronouns "he" and "him" when folks are referring to you?

totallyhuman

you can infer the rest

Christopher

@totallyhuman shh you robot

@Poke he said male robot

Poke

and?

Christopher

18:23

he and him are male pronouns

Anonymous

@Poke I prefer "His Gloriousness", but I'll take what I can get :P

Poke

;)

DJMcMayhem

Jul 8 '16 at 21:18, by Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I tried going outside once. The graphics were incredible, but the story line was horrendous.

Christopher

@HisGloriousness hello

Poke

@Christopher Just gotta be careful not to offend anyone

This is a safe space, you know

DJMcMayhem

18:24

@Mego My dad set up his iPhone so that Siri would refer to him as The Distinguished Mr. <last-name>

Christopher

hahah

@Poke I identify as Brain-Flak

totallyhuman

nice last name you got there, mr. djmcmayhem <last-name>

moonheart08

@DJMcMayhem Fiction usually tries to be believable. Reality? Not so much.

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego How about Thou Highest of Exalted Penguin Overloads? :D

Mr. Xcoder

Can we please stop this ridiculously off-topic discussion about online genders? :/ Thanks!

Anonymous

18:25

@DJMcMayhem Thank you for the suggestion :)

Thomas Ward

@EriktheOutgolfer i usually do that when there's useless junk involved wiht my convos :)

besides, it helps to just throw things away when you're done with them, leaves less litter :p

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem The Distinguished Mr. DJMcMayhem Sr.? :D

Mr. Xcoder

;-; It would be The Distinguished Mr. Mr. Xcoder for me

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher Speaking of which, WW and I have been working on the new pain-flak

If you have any thoughts on it

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem :}

hahahahah

ahahahahahahahhahah continues to laugh with pain inside his soul and the reality of what he did come crashing in

@DJMcMayhem but sure! link the github

DJMcMayhem

18:27

The interpreter for it is IMO waaaaay cleaner than the Ruby interpreter. It's just like 100 lines of python or so, and the nesting is super simple when each atom is a custom object that execs it's own arguments

Christopher

wow

DJMcMayhem

OOP FTW

Christopher

The github?

Anonymous

The Distinguished Mr. <last-name>, Highest of Exalted Penguin Overlords

Christopher

@Mego kina plain if you ask me

Anonymous

18:28

My wife will roll her eyes so hard when she sees that

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher Here you go. Design thoughts in TTS as usual

caird coinheringaahing

> Brain-kalF

DJMcMayhem

@Mego If you're anything like me, that's enough of a reason in and of itself. :P

caird coinheringaahing

'Cause why not? :P

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Why do you think I did it? :P

DJMcMayhem

18:29

> (currently unnamed)

That's just the repo name cause I had to pick something

Anonymous

Anything that makes my wife question her decision to marry me is a great idea :D

5

Christopher

I would do The Distinguished Mr. <last-name>, king of dad jokes, ruler of Penguins, king of PPCGv2

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem :O that looks really clean

Thomas Ward

my iphone referred to me as "Most Evil One". But... :P

now I got rid of it, so my phone doesn't call me anything.

Anonymous

@ThomasWard I'm assuming it just did that on its own when your eyes turned all laser-y

caird coinheringaahing

18:30

@Christopher King of dad jokes? I've never seen Mego make a joke, let alone a dad joke

Christopher

@cairdcoinheringaahing have you read anything he just said

Thomas Ward

@Mego Oh most definitely. it also probably heard me unleashing curses and hexes against certain individuals and started referring to me as evil as well, but

i no longer have an iPhone so :)

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder Thank you! If you want to see a fully working regular brain-flak interpreter, revision 3 is neater without the reversing stuff

flawr

@LuisMendo I'm afraid I'm gonna have to guess your password then XD

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem gave idea for name

caird coinheringaahing

18:32

@DJMcMayhem I'm not sure, but I think I hate you for having code that clean :/

Mr. Xcoder

@ThomasWard reffering to me as evil — i no longer heaven iPhone 10/10

caird coinheringaahing

The first few messages in these are brilliant :P

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing I mostly make programming jokes

Conor O'Brien

@Mego so do I. Here's one: Java

caird coinheringaahing

(ノ°Д°）ノ︵ ┻━┻ Savage :P

Erik the Outgolfer

18:36

my eyes are burning

Anonymous

Oct 10 '17 at 17:57, by Mego

My cat's litter box looks better than most mobile apps

Mr. Xcoder

I don’t see how that is programming-related :P

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing One nice thing about doing it OOP is that there are potential major optimizations that could be done. For example, a monad like "(" + "()" * 1000 + ") during the parse state could simply be flagged as constant, and then the exec function can simply return push(1000)

Anonymous

Dec 31 '17 at 16:38, by Mego

If you do change your username, it should be to something super heinous, like "PHP did nothing wrong"

Christopher

Nov 30 '15 at 21:56, by Calvin's Hobbies

> All messages are henceforth forbidden in this chat room. Go run around outside. - 4m ago by Alex A.

DJMcMayhem

18:37

Now most of the overhead of running it comes from the first parse up front, rather than parsing it as it runs

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego flags

Christopher

@EriktheOutgolfer flags then self flags

Thomas Ward

deletes both messages, suspends both flaggers

Christopher

you can only use italics

Mr. Xcoder

grabs popcorn

totallyhuman

18:37

that's called a timeout

DJMcMayhem

Actually, for that matter, any number of () nilads in an argument can be made constant, since they don't affect state and order doesn't matter

Erik the Outgolfer

@ThomasWard contacts CM team about mod abuse

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder vtc because pop looks like popcon

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer The CM team gives Thomas a wide berth. They're afraid of his laser eyes.

Thomas Ward

watches as The Great and Powerful Shog comes forth and yells about the flaggers abusing flags to begin with

Mr. Xcoder

18:38

Only on PPCG there is this misconception that all pop-cons are bad :(

Christopher

misconception?

caird coinheringaahing

This is great :P Most people are using italics and DJ's just explaining how the new BrainFlak works :P

totallyhuman

@Christopher yes

Christopher

@ThomasWard summons jonskeet

Thomas Ward

divides by zero, ends existence, reboots from clean backups

totallyhuman

18:39

eh i'd take monospace over italic

Thomas Ward

ANYWAYS, i'm done for now.

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder Not all pop-cons are bad. There's just only been ~3 pop-cons that were good (that I can think of right now).

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego Haha, that took me back to this top quality joke :P

flawr

@Mego thanks

Erik the Outgolfer

dare they, how do they support a community, even letting offensive content such as "P*P is good" reside in the catacombs of their servers

Mr. Xcoder

18:39

@Mego That’s literally what I said, isn’t t?

Poke

let's not start arguing about popcons again

people make the same arguments every time

Mr. Xcoder

Did anyone argue? :P

Poke

and nothing changes

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder There's a difference between "not all popcons are bad" and "literally every single popcon, with maybe 3 exceptions, sucks"

Poke

not yet

AdmBorkBork

18:40

@Mego Oh, is mine one of them?

caird coinheringaahing

@Poke Everyone knows that pop-cons are bad. The question is: Should we bring back code-trolling? :D

Christopher

@cairdcoinheringaahing no

Erik the Outgolfer

banning it is exactly one of the reasons we graduated at all, I think bringing it back may be seen as some kind of "revolution" to CMs

Anonymous

@AdmBorkBork Palette swap (American Gothic/Mona Lisa), all-colors images, and patch the image are the 3 I was thinking of

Christopher

@EriktheOutgolfer code-trolling or design. They choose :P

Mr. Xcoder

18:43

@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ____ಠ I literally disagree with every word in that sentence.

Erik the Outgolfer

unlike the real world, it's very easy for them to just type one line and erase us from this world

@Mego his is Patch the paragraph

AdmBorkBork

@Mego Those are the top three, I'd agree. Mine was a take off of the last one, Patch the Paragraph.

Thomas Ward

@EriktheOutgolfer and send the site into cyber-oblivion?

AdmBorkBork

ninjango'd

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer I somehow completely missed that one. It doesn't look terrible.

Christopher

18:45

What a high praise

DJMcMayhem

@Mego What about Write a language of unknown TC-ness?

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem I don't remember that one, either

caird coinheringaahing

For any Haskellers out there

4

Anonymous

The most recent one (OISC) has potential to be pretty good

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem I have to agree with WW and say that it was a meh one. Clever challenge though

Mr. Xcoder

18:48

> ~~Pointless (ahem)~~ “Points-free” Haskell programmer

10/10

Christopher

takes so long to do my PLQ :P

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing I call BS on the Scheme-inspired one. It doesn't have proper tail-recursion!

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing Clearly product.flip take[1..] is the best implementation

Mr. Xcoder

I like the Tenured professor

Christopher

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/155018/… Finally finished my PLQ answer!

@Mr.Xcoder Dennis :P

Mr. Xcoder

18:55

I am 100% sure this is a variation of -flak.

Christopher

why would I do something that obvious

DJMcMayhem

This is brain-flak. — DJMcMayhem 19 secs ago

The TIO is too long for the comment, lol

Erik the Outgolfer

FGITW'd...

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder Curses, you beat me to the robbers thread by a few seconds!

Christopher

Why does everyone know me so well

DJMcMayhem

18:57

I don't know how to correctly crack it though

Christopher

Wait, Did i have 3 people crack in under a minute??

Anonymous

Yes

Erik the Outgolfer

just post in the robbers' thread like everybody else has :P

Anonymous

The properly-matched brackets were a giveaway

Erik the Outgolfer

@Christopher 4

DJMcMayhem

18:57

Whoops. I thought commenting gave me dibs on it. Oh vell

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem But you posted your comment after I answer on the Robbers' Thread.

Christopher

It took me so long

to try and hide the fact it was brain-flak

and 4 people in under a minute

Mr. Xcoder

@Christopher BTW you should add "Cracked by ..." in the header

DJMcMayhem

CMC: Answer a challenge in pain-flak with less bytes than the shortest existing brain-flak answer on the same challenge

Mr. Xcoder

Is it even possible?

Christopher

18:59

@DJMcMayhem what is not a mini-challenge

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Easy, because you didn't specify which brain-flak answer :P

DJMcMayhem

(I might make that an endless bounty if it turns out to be a good challenge)

@Mego s/an/the/

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