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8:02 PM
Haha, I made a where Japt, Husk and 05AB1E all beat Jelly :P
 
I am very close to having a working Triangularity submission, but I think I should let other people try it
 
quite funny, Japt doesn't beat others very often... But Husk is quite good, I often see it beat Jelly
@Mr.Xcoder I would try, but I'm too lazy to learn it .-.
 
as most golfing languages do, Japt has some...interesting built-ins
 
@Mr.Xcoder If you finish it, you might as well post it. I'm not going to attempt it for another few days and I don't know anyone else who uses Triangularity.
 
8:04 PM
I think user202279 does know a bit.
But there are many esolang dabblers out there on PPCG willing to learn it for some rep
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I never succeeded golfing a good score in Japt
but its the easiest to learm
I also tried Pyth, but I forgot everything when I left the docs xD
 
practice, practice, practice...
 
idk, Shaggy always beats me with some weird features I don't even notice...
why are they so hidden xD
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing But... 05ab1e doesn't beat Jelly
(they're tied)
 
8:06 PM
Ah, Jonathan golfed his answer
 
I think the Triangularity submission will have either 127, 161, 199 or 241 bytes
 
(no way to know for sure until I'm done and add the padding)
 
Use your own program to add the padding :P
(Yes, I know you can't really)
 
8:08 PM
start giving bets for Tringularity what score will go first, entry fee 1$, winner wins all! XD
 
friendly competition+bet=:(
 
XD
jk right
 
@labela--gotoa If I were a betting man, I;d go for 199 bytes. Unfortunately, I don't give or receive money from people I've never met
 
ast.literal_eval is broken ಠ_ಠ
 
8:11 PM
jkr
 
Ah, nvm
 
that's something somebody else would always nvm...
...unless they're actually in the mood to contribute to fixing a language
 
ಠ_ಠ F is broken
 
I guess good luck then
 
@Mego What's ELVM? :P
 
Anonymous
8:14 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing A virtual machine for elves
2
 
>_< I need a pull
 
I don't think you asked him to?
Ninja'd
 
ehh... I don't understand Tringularity, I guess
Oh, now I just realised the docs are in GH wiki
 
Lol
Oh my god... My program needs refactoring
i.e. complete re-writing
 
@EriktheOutgolfer What's your point?
 
8:27 PM
@DJMcMayhem if you were unwelcome, the community would have been importantly different and "V" would have just been the 22nd letter of the alphabet
 
Hahaha, true
 
Anybody interested in Wire or Pepe? Sorry if asked already :p
 
@Dennis In jelly.py why do you import some modules at the start of the program and __import__ others part of the way through?
 
presumably for startup performance?
 
@labela--gotoa How do you Wire? There doesn't seem to be a program anywhere that runs or compiles code of any kind.
 
8:36 PM
I'll soon switch back to eval, ast is just terrible :P
 
@Pavel that's just a project for now. rn it's in "command design" phase. :p
Command pictures are in /img, also available as fonts, so you can wire programs more easily in an IDE which allows changing font, ex. Notepad++
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Some imports (especially sympy) are really slow and not needed by all programs.
 
ಠ_ಠ Does anyone know how to update Python on Windows 10? pip install python -U didn't work
 
I don't think you can update python from within it easily?
 
8:40 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing You go to the website and download the installer.
Alternatively, use chocolatey, which makes this process infinitely easier but slightly less stable.
 
or just switch to linux
easy-peasy
 
I assume that caird is using Windows because he needs it for something and Linux isn't an option
 
I don;t have Linux, so no, it's not an option :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Hold on, what do you mean, "Don't have Linux"
 
look man if i'm running linux on a chromebook, you can run linux on whatever the hell you're using :P
 
8:44 PM
I have Windows and Mac, no Linux
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing That sounds like an easy fix: getfedora.org
 
Nah, I can't be bothered to install Linux. I just got used to using Powershell
 
Linux would be awesome if it didn't rely on command line and had more app devs (comparing to Windows)... Android actually implements Linux and does fulfill both requirements, but it's mobile-only...
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing So? Fedora has PowerShell.
 
> had more app devs
funny I think the same thing about Windows every time I try to do any dev work on it
like if someone would make a package manager that didn't suck
that'd be great
 
8:46 PM
I like Windows, believe it or not, and don't really want to go through the hassle of downloading a different OS
 
@quartata, what? Much more people write apps for Windows than Linux. I can't imagine a day without WinSCP
 
@Dennis And it's completely usable, I used it as my primary shell for a while.
 
@labela--gotoa you know that's based on the actual scp tool right
like the one that came first
and comes with every unix system that has ssh
 
@quartata It's a FTP manager...?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Understandable. But just so you know, dnf update updates everything on your system, including Python.
 
8:48 PM
If I search scp on the web I only get WinSCP and the SCP game
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't see the problem with Windows (or with downloading the later version of Python from the internet)
 
@Dennis What option does Jelly use on TIO? Is it jelly f [file]?
 
If you need a GUI, you can mount the toher computer as an sshfs and open it in your system's file explorer.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yet you're asking about it here. :P
 
8:49 PM
I don't have SSH access
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing jelly fu .code.tio
 
that's the problem
 
but you're using winscp
SCP by definition operates over SSH
 
Isn't winscp still ssh based
Yeah
 
that's how it works
 
8:50 PM
@Pavel It also has FTP manager
 
it was made for unix first as an ssh-based replacement for rcp
 
no fu jelly
 
WinSCP is not only SCP, but FTP too
 
ok
 
@flawr This would make a nice golf challenge, wouldn't it?
 
8:52 PM
It's the only good FTP manager for me
It has everything I need, unlike the others
gtg, bye
 
I guess I'm stuck there because FTP predates Unix
 
@labela--gotoa Now, my machine didn't come with ftp, but I did just run sudo dnf install ftp, so I have it now.
 
can't really say it was made for it per se
@Pavel fedora doesn't come with sftp?
 
@LuisMendo heh i recognize 3 ppcg users on that
 
:-D
 
8:53 PM
it's contagious!
 
@totallyhuman 3? I only see Luis and flawr
 
^ And rahnema1
He golfs mainly in Octave
 
@quartata It did, I just didn't know about the sftp command. I thought ftp was what people used.
 
Note that SFTP is SSH-based, so it's an entirely different protocol.
 
Well there you go.
 
9:04 PM
 
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Q: Panfix to parenthesized infix

Esolanging FruitQuylthulg is a language by Chris Pressey that attempts to solve the problem of infix notation using what it calls panfix: like postfix, panfix does not require the deployment of arcane contrivances such as parentheses to override a default operator precedence. At the same time, panfix allows ...

 
@Mr.Xcoder It's the same bytecount to output a single string: Try it online! :P
 
Yeah I was just updating
I should perhaps add an explanation
 
I can barely follow it, so I'd say yes :P
 
It uses two new commands, e which dumps the contents separately onto the stack and f which casts to int
 
9:41 PM
CMP: Why is your username what it is?
 
The WoW name generator called my nelf hunter this, later on the first letter became an omicron because I felt like it.
That was many, many years ago.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing New one or old?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing heh
 
9:59 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing I used to like Swift and Xcode, but also coding in general so it used to be Xcoder123. After gaining some rep, I realised random numbers at the end aren't too nice, so I removed them, but Xcoder felt too short. Hence I added Mr. in the front :P
Ouch, explaining my recent answer was a brain-pain.
 
@Blue Either
 
muddyfish - my first fish was called muddy. Was my first ever username. Was actually decent so I kept it.
Blue - name of my fursona :3
 
Previous: Soaku - random syllabes; was a name for my character in a LaRPG. My current is because a one IO game (spaceone.io) was dying (servers kept crashing). I thought, perhaps devs made an infinite loop, named myself while(true). One guy copied me, naming himself for(;;). I thought of label-goto loop, but my nick was too long, but thought it might be a good nick for SE
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Beacause it's my name.
@Blue Your profile still says "Hi, I'm muddyfish." by the way
 
I guess I still haven't gotten around to changing it
I didn't deliberately because I wasn't sure I'd keep this name but apparently I am
 
10:10 PM
Also your chat profile's about.
 
That can stay
 
10:26 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing because i'm human
quite obvious
 
@totallyhuman totally human, or just part human? :P
 
10:48 PM
 
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Q: Basic python question

JuliaWrite Python code that will print out all the even numbers between 7 and 21, separated by a comma and space, except for the last number which should be followed by a dot. In other words, it must print out: 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20. You must use a for loop using a range argument and at least one...

 
dang, I had just seen that question, opened it, and clicked "close", but it had already been closed in the 3 secs it took me to hit the button
 
I have a question from a starred message some time ago: what language is the code in the background in?
 
@Zacharý Various languages (I recognize brainfuck and Python)
And Ruby and jelly
 
I also see a shell
I think PHP and/or Perl? I saw $
 
11:02 PM
CMC: all even numbers between 7 and 21
 
n=[8,10..20] tio.run/…
 
@LeakyNun Haskell: f=[8,10..20]
Ninja'd
 
haskell is so smart
 
Oh, hah, those aren't even the same language
 
Why not [8..20]?
 
11:05 PM
@DJMcMayhem 8,9,...20
 
Wait what
 
@DJMcMayhem That includes the odds.
 
Oh shoot
It infers the step
Damn
 
@Οurous print[(i+4)*2for i in range(7)]
Hmm, to date I'm still not sure if Haskell has such a thing as a a function without arguments.
 
The main function takes no arguments
 
11:13 PM
Not often you stumble upon a PPCGer on a non-programming (or Puzzling) stack such as Space Exploration...
 
@LeakyNun nah it's not any smarter than any other range function (if that's what you were referring to)
 
@totallyhuman well
 
the syntactic sugar makes it look cooler though
python: print range(8,21,2)
future neon: 8 21 2<something>
@LeakyNun what would make it super smart if it could infer geometric sequences [1,4,9..16]
 
@totallyhuman that's the whole point
 
:P
don't judge a book based on its cover
 
11:27 PM
@totallyhuman Syntactic sugar is important. The CLR has essentially the same capabilities as the JVM, but C# gives access to this capability in a much more pleasant way than Java allows.
 
I wonder if I could replace StdEnum with a more advanced version that would accept geometric sequences too...
 
@ETHproductions o_o
@totallyhuman That's not geometric. Geometric would be [1,2,4..32]
 
@Zacharý oh lol totally missed that
 
Ah damn I'd run into parser issues.
 
@Οurous, eh?
 
11:42 PM
@Pavel Relevant meta. Tl;dr: On PPCG Haskell objects count as functions without arguments because of laziness.
 
@Zacharý oops
 
If you want sequences like that (the one you posted), then you could implement polynomial interpolation. It will give you weird results if you want geometric though...
 
@Zacharý tio.run/… - parser problems
 
AH
 
CMC: given a, b, and c; return [a, b, b * (b / a), b * (b / a)^2, ..., c]
good for main perhaps?
 
11:49 PM
I'd say so, it looks nice and approachable, but also non-trivial.
 
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