The Nineteenth Byte

mınxomaτ

21:01

Some candidates write long essays in their CVs, others though:

> i love development and live Javascript. The web is my home. JS.ForLife. I love tech StartUp

caird coinheringaahing

@mınxomaτ 0/10 Grammar mistake in the first word

Erik the Outgolfer

@mınxomaτ I don't think they do really intent to take the job seriously ;p

mınxomaτ

This is the only sentence.

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm, I'm guessing they weren't hired

mınxomaτ

I can assure you that.

Erik the Outgolfer

21:03

first of all it doesn't even say why the candidate chose to work at the specific company at all!

Mr. Xcoder

s/chose to work/chose to try to work/

Erik the Outgolfer

there can be a gazillion other places where you can work for tech startup in javascript

mınxomaτ

To be specific, there is no cover letter. This is the description of their previous job at an undisclosed company.

Erik the Outgolfer

I guess they got fired? ;~)

mınxomaτ

I did not consider them in the first place.

All in all, I like SO Recruiting, I just wish they would filter out things like this by default.

caird coinheringaahing

21:05

@mınxomaτ Do you recruit for SO?

Erik the Outgolfer

because if you "i love development and live Javascript. The web is my home. JS.ForLife. I love tech StartUp" then I don't think you're even trying to do the work :p

mınxomaτ

I recruit for my company, with SO Talent.

Poke

@mınxomaτ no way

could i bother you for a picture with the private parts censored or something

that's insane

Erik the Outgolfer

huh

Pavel

@mınxomaτ Are there ever applications that are just spam?

mınxomaτ

21:07

There's not much more.

@Pavel Not really.

Poke

ahahahahahahah

Erik the Outgolfer

@mınxomaτ and they're still not fired? O_O

Mr. Xcoder

They’re not even hired :c

Erik the Outgolfer

I meant the past company

mınxomaτ

I like how they manage to use React, Knockout and Angular

Poke

21:09

i wouldn't hire them either. not enough jquery.

Pavel

Says 11 months of experience

trichoplax

Says 2017 - maybe that's just 11 months experience so far this year

Mr. Xcoder

@mınxomaτ maybe they use all three at once :D

mınxomaτ

@Mr.Xcoder That would indeed be a skill

Pavel

I don't understand JavaScript frameworks

Mr. Xcoder

21:10

Yeah Ik

Erik the Outgolfer

in a sane company they would normally not get even one day of experience with such a cv o_o at least you can search a bit on how you should format a cv properly

Poke

@Pavel all you need is jquery

Pavel

I prefer JustJS (TM)

mınxomaτ

Another one:

> Everything related server side (api, database, socket server). And making everything awesome.

Fair enough.

Poke

i prefer that all the things are awesome

sounds like that candidate is moving on to "phone screening"

caird coinheringaahing

21:13

@mınxomaτ But everything is awesome. Just ask Lego :P

Poke

ooo

you right

Fatalize

@EriktheOutgolfer everything Brachylog-related seems to be frozen these days :p

Erik the Outgolfer

@mınxomaτ "making everything awesome" 10/10

well first of all "everything related server side" just feels too broad for me to believe it

Fatalize

@EriktheOutgolfer I think the ¬ does weird things to which variable is the current one

Erik the Outgolfer

@Fatalize so you think it's a bug?

Fatalize

21:17

I think the unification is disabled after the ¬≠ so I can repeat L

Erik the Outgolfer

seems bery un-brachylog-y imo

Fatalize

@EriktheOutgolfer Well yes and no, because it's difficult to come up with a standard behavior of the next variable after ¬ for all predicates that you can negate

e.g. with different you indeed expect to get the input as output because the different predicate works like that

Erik the Outgolfer

but with +, well...

Fatalize

well you dont know

L¬+ -> + cannot be summed

I guess the next variable could still be L

but it's a bit arbitrary

Erik the Outgolfer

for example [1,2,3]¬+ -> what

Fatalize

21:20

this would fail

because you can sum [1,2,3]

but e.g. "test"¬+ would succeed

but currently the following variable is just a free variable

Erik the Outgolfer

I'd say that every error is a lost opportunity for golfing ;)

Fatalize

and not e.g. "test"

[1,2,3]¬+ 's behavior is not an error though?

Erik the Outgolfer

I'd say that ¬ should modify a predicate so that its . is its ? and fails on the predicate

Fatalize

what about A¬B

Erik the Outgolfer

@Fatalize why should it be an error...Try it online!

Fatalize

21:24

it's not an error, it's a failure

which is logically sound

it is false that you can't sum [1,2,3]

because you can, and the result is 6

Erik the Outgolfer

and I don't see any reason for it to be an error

Fatalize

I didn't say it should be an error?

Erik the Outgolfer

2 mins ago, by Fatalize

[1,2,3]¬+ 's behavior is not an error though?

huh

Fatalize

well yeah it's not an error that's exactly what I said...

3 mins ago, by Erik the Outgolfer

I'd say that every error is a lost opportunity for golfing ;)

I just didn't understand why you said that

Erik the Outgolfer

oh

wasn't referring to that

Fatalize

21:26

(how did you even dug up this Brachlog answer from april?)

Erik the Outgolfer

oftentimes I see the front page

caird coinheringaahing

Does anyone know any quick methods for converting from decimal to binary in your head? The repeated divmod by two method gets slow for large numbers

Erik the Outgolfer

of course replacing : with ;

then tried to remove the Ls to see if anything had been done about it

Fatalize

(I'll admit I tested it in TIO once and saw it it didn't work, didn't think of that :)

Erik the Outgolfer

I think that was before : was replaced with ; and ,?

Fatalize

21:31

yeah

DIdn't think it was that recently though

github.com/JCumin/Brachylog/commit/…

5th of may, so shortly after that answer actually

Erik the Outgolfer

@Fatalize suggestion: ¬ act like {↰₁!⊥|} where ↰₁ is the predicate you get as an argument

Uriel

@cairdcoinheringaahing just memorize 0-255

Erik the Outgolfer

like, if it fails then return the input itself, otherwise fail

Uriel

or 0-15 if you're good with hexa

Fatalize

@EriktheOutgolfer Markus Triska suggested once to write parts/all of Brachylog in Brachylog. Seems like you would be qualified for the job :p

Uriel

21:35

@mınxomaτ So SO jobs is a real thing ಠ_ಠ

mınxomaτ

Not sure what's that supposed to mean

Uriel

@EriktheOutgolfer may I ask exactly how many esolangs do you speak? :P

caird coinheringaahing

Not as many as Dennis or Leaky :D

Uriel

Thinking of it, it would be cool to have a snippet to tell how many times did one use a languages, trusting submissions headers

Or is there already one?

Fatalize

(I'm almost tempted to actually write a Brachylog interpreter in Brachylog just to be the first esolang interpreted in itself, but that seems like a huge waste of time :p)

caird coinheringaahing

21:49

The problem if for non code-golf challenges as the header can change

Uriel

@cairdcoinheringaahing drop them out

caird coinheringaahing

@Fatalize Sorry, bra*nfuck beat you too it :(

Fatalize

non turing tarpit esolang*

Poke

til the company i work at is listed on SO

caird coinheringaahing

That's got me thinking about a Jelly self interpreter. Which is enough to make me tear out my Jelly knowledge and sell it for a gold badge

Adám

21:53

@cairdcoinheringaahing LeakyNun knows a lot of esolangs, langs, and human-langs.

Speaking of jobs. We're looking for someone willing to study APL for about half a year, then work in New Jersey for a very large US company 80%, continuing APL studies 20%. Anybody interested?

caird coinheringaahing

Do you have to know APL already?

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing No, we'll teach you from scratch. Paid too.

Fatalize

from scratch, or from scratch?

:p

Adám

@Fatalize lowercase :-)

caird coinheringaahing

It does sound intriguing but unless you're willing to wait for 5 years, I wouldn't be able to D:D

Adám

22:00

@cairdcoinheringaahing Age issues? No, I think they are desperate. But something else will surely be available then.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Yeah, I'm probably too young, plus my parents would flip if I asked them if I could move to the US

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Where are you?

caird coinheringaahing

UK

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh, well, if you're interested in APL, you should be able to find something here.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám APL does look quite interesting. I'll keep that in mind.

Adám

22:05

@cairdcoinheringaahing Maybe interested in joining tomorrows lesson?

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám What time is it?

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing 18:30. Every Wednesday.

Fatalize

"APL leads to the dark side of programming languages. APL leads to J. J leads to Jelly. Jelly leads to suffering..." - Yoda (probably)

Adám

@Fatalize Joda.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Hmm, I should be able to join.

Adám

22:07

@Fatalize Although I'd say APL leads to K. K leads to Q. Q leads to suffering.

caird coinheringaahing

@Fatalize Jelly leads to code golf (basically the same thing :P)

Fatalize

Q leads to Q_Q

Destructible Lemon

7 hours ago, by HyperNeutrino

CMP: Should we have another KoTH soon?

I was thinking of making one

btw

caird coinheringaahing

Programmers alphabet: A(pl)KQJCF(#)

Adám

@ThomasWard Hail ye, oh laser eyed bringer of bots!

caird coinheringaahing

22:08

@DestructibleLemon I've got a couple in the sandbox, but I need to finish the controllers

Destructible Lemon

links pls?

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing We've had such a run before, iirc. A is a dialect of APL, btw. A lead to A+, A+ to K, K to Q.

Thomas Ward

i be pingified!

explodes the room

Destructible Lemon

actually i can probably look at it myself

ATaco

@DestructibleLemon Maybe not python..?

Destructible Lemon

22:10

yeah i was also thinking of making a simple language just so people didn't whinge about python

caird coinheringaahing

@DestructibleLemon A and B

@Adám Shame that A doesn't then leed to B, C, D, F etc

Magic Octopus Urn

CMC: Emulate the Windows Network Debugger by outputting "Windows could not resolve your Network Problems." exactly as it appears.

Destructible Lemon

@cairdcoinheringaahing I made a bot for a poker koth before but the koth never got off the ground :(

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well, B→C→D, no?

ATaco

Funky, 53 bytes _=>"Windows could not resolve your Network Problems."

caird coinheringaahing

22:13

@Adám I don't know. I've never heard of B and never seen any D code

Magic Octopus Urn

@ATaco Was mostly a joke heh.

ATaco

B was the predecessor to C.

Destructible Lemon

@MagicOctopusUrn scathing

caird coinheringaahing

The only letters (as languages) I've seen programs in are C/J/K/M/Q/R

Magic Octopus Urn

R (is also one, and is growing alarmingly fast)

ATaco

22:14

B (programming language)

B is a programming language developed at Bell Labs circa 1969. It is the work of Ken Thompson with Dennis Ritchie. B was derived from BCPL, and its name may be a contraction of BCPL. Thompson's coworker Dennis Ritchie speculated that the name might be based on Bon, an earlier, but unrelated, programming language that Thompson designed for use on Multics. B was designed for recursive, non-numeric, machine independent applications, such as system and language software. == History == Initially Ken Thompson and later Dennis Ritchie developed B basing it mainly on the BCPL language Thompson used in...

Thomas Ward

yep, R is a thing

Destructible Lemon

isn't there like one for every letter now?

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Ah, thanks for reminded me

Thomas Ward

@Adám a bit late, @ATaco beat you to that ;)

ATaco

My knowledge of Single letter programming languages are: B, C, D, F, J, K, R

caird coinheringaahing

22:16

M?

Magic Octopus Urn

V (I think, right?)

Thomas Ward

Z is apparently a thing.

caird coinheringaahing

Damn, I forgot V. Sorry DJ :(

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Dialect of Jelly.

Riker

it pre-existed jelly, no?

caird coinheringaahing

22:17

@Adám Yeah, I know. I was asking Ataco if he knew it

Magic Octopus Urn

Literally just say the alphabet in your head. I added R and V to that list by doing that hahaha.

Riker

isnt' A an APL derivative?

ATaco

I know of it.

Adám

@Riker No, I think it was supposed to be Jelly v2 or something, but Dennis never finished it.

Riker

hm

Adám

22:17

@Riker Yes.

Magic Octopus Urn

~~Technically you could call whitespace ` `?~~

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

no

Riker

I've heard of I, derivative of J

caird coinheringaahing

M was the earlier form of Jelly that uses sympy floats. Basically overloaded with maths.

Uriel

@Adám don't you speak yourself three of the latter?

ATaco

22:18

Funky is the child of MaybeLater and it 100% does not show.

caird coinheringaahing

@ATaco Out of curiously how long did it take you to make MaybeLater? And how long did you procrastinate for?

Adám

@Uriel More like five, but not all on a daily basis.

Riker

H, L, N, P, S, T, U, W, X, Y are the only ones I can't think of

Adám

@Riker I is very hard to speak about without the conversation getting confusing. Especially true when my housemate speaks about I.

ATaco

Ironically it took me a few attempts to gather the effort to finish MaybeLater.

Riker

22:20

@Adám lol

Adám

(My housemate made I.)

Riker

oh, really? tha'ts cool

Adám

@Riker S is an R implementation.

@Riker H

Riker

yep, I just found them all

all letters are found I think then

can't find X plain, but X# exists

xsharp.info

Adám

@Riker 4 and 7 exist, but the other digits not yet, it appears.

Uriel

22:24

@Adám what R D other two? (had to make APL pun)

ATaco

After writing MaybeLater's Tokenizer for the last time, I then re-wrote it for Funky.

Adám

@Uriel Which are the three?

Uriel

@cairdcoinheringaahing I've seen ABCDFIJKMQRSVXZ

@Adám eng, heb and yid

Magic Octopus Urn

I hate to even link this... But... rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Programming_Languages (don't hate, I never use this site, but it is good for reference implementations)

Adám

@Uriel Danish (my native tongue) and Swedish (I lived in Sweden for many years, went to University there).

Magic Octopus Urn

22:26

That's their full list of languages that they have, looks like there's a few more (I have no idea what the living heck they are though).

(Seriously, what is L++)

Is that like (C+7)++?

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn tio chat room gets ddos'ed

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel >_>?

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn requests for new languages

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel half of those languages I'm convinced they made up for more content.

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn that would be true for esolangs.org, not rosseta code

Magic Octopus Urn

22:32

@Uriel ~~can't tell you how many kids I had to mark as "failed homework, see me" for taking snippets from rosetta code ._.~~ (like 4)

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn you teach CS?

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel Oh god no, I was a TA. Also I tutored low level CS courses in Java/Spark.

@Uriel I graded homework mostly and helped students.

@Uriel Low level as in "101-201" courses, I didn't tutor any 300+ (masters level) courses.

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn I don't really know the US numbering system for classes

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel Gosh man, I live here and have no idea.

Adám

@Uriel "101" means "introductory". It has even become a phase on its own.

Uriel

22:35

@MagicOctopusUrn we just call it linalg A, linalg B, etc

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel 101 is like "HI, THIS IS A STRING BRO!", 201 is like "HERES OOP BRO.", 300+ is like "here's the fundamental system for hidden markov modeling in terms of neurological networks."

Adám

@MagicOctopusUrn Hm, seems that the learning curve is exponential.

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adám This was at OSU before they went to semesters. Basically everything used to be a 300+ level.

Adám

@Uriel Wait, linalg א, linalg ב, etc.?

Uriel

@Adám yeah, except the "linalg" isn't English either.

Magic Octopus Urn

22:37

@Adám If you were taking any 100-200 level courses after sophomore year you were behind hard. Our rankings went up from 300-700. And this was before semesters... Now they use an even more complicated rating system.....

Uriel

@Adám I guess it would become linalg I, linalg II if transliated correctly

Adám

@Uriel 'לינאלג' א?

Uriel

@Adám we go with לינארית

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel Mark me down as ignorant, but where?

Adám

@Uriel Oh. That's more like "linearity".

@MagicOctopusUrn Israel. That's Hebrew.

Magic Octopus Urn

22:41

@Adám Ahhh... I'm really bad with foreign languages.

@Adám Are there many other countries that speak Hebrew as their primary language?

Uriel

Nope

Destructible Lemon

what do you guys think of a quantum werewolf koth?

Adám

@MagicOctopusUrn None. But it is very common for Jews to know Hebrew even if they have no connection with Israel.

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adám Absolutely true, my Jewish friend had to recite a bunch of stuff when I went to his bat mitzvah. I was just too young to know much more. Haven't had much more exposure though, definitely fascinating tradition though.

Adám

@MagicOctopusUrn (Probably his bar mitzvah or her bat mitzvah.)

ATaco

22:44

I speak enough German to get me to someone who speaks english, but that's about it.

Adám

@ATaco I don't speak German at all, but the Germans don't notice at first.

Magic Octopus Urn

Ich spreche kein Deutsch? Ich habe ins kino mit meinen freunden gegangen.

Adám

@MagicOctopusUrn Interestingly, it is customary for Jews to develop a Jewish version of the local vernacular wherever they are, but preserve Hebrew as a holy tongue. I actually know Hebrew twice: The holy tongue as used in prayers and scriptures, and Modern Hebrew, as spoken in Israel.

@MagicOctopusUrn What did you see?

@MagicOctopusUrn Interestingly, you started off with placing the verb early. That's how I would do it too (in Yiddish).

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adám I heard there were TONS of dialects in different parts of the world for Hebrew from my friend, never looked into it (mostly dealing with age/time/who you're talking to)

@Adám My german is, not figuratively, from 10 years ago when I was 16.

Uriel

@Adám once you know the modern one, understanding the older is just like reading

Adám

22:50

@MagicOctopusUrn Not dialects of Hebrew, but different pronunciations.

ATaco

I speak Australian and English.

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adám Errr... yeah, sorry, my vocabulary on languages is wrong. I only know English (it's my only language on my resume).

You want to talk the theory behind language, NLP? Phones? Phonetic parsing? AI based on POS tagging? I'm all in. For English only haha.

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn only because non nativers usually lacks gender related pronunciations and preserve their accent

Adám

@Uriel The modern one has assigned new meanings to old words, both known and unknown words. Google translate certainly cannot handle old grammar (suffixes).

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel I actually ~~understand~~ (used to understand before I forgot everything) the suffixes for german, it was phoenetic enough to grasp.

ATaco

22:52

German is a mostly phonetic language, barring a few borrowed words.

Uriel

@Adám but I don't need any further effort to understand it.

ATaco

It makes it much easier to learn.

Adám

@Uriel Not true. What is the first word of a Jewish blessing transcribed into English?

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn I reffered to you speaking about hebrew

Magic Octopus Urn

@Uriel Ahhhh, nevermind then, I bet speaking would be easier than reading for me. Languages that do not use the a-z alphabet confuse me.

Adám

22:54

@Uriel You know all the words that Academy of the Hebrew Language has changed?

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

help needed. what is this:

Magic Octopus Urn

My favorite german word was "to cut" because our teacher warned us about it and said if we ever "cursed" during a spoke-word exam would be dropped a letter grade... Like 50% of us accidentally said "s--t" instead of "to cut" on our exams.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

uhh

Uriel

@Adám depends. I can write an article regarding it. Basically blessed

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

  <--- what is that

Magic Octopus Urn

22:55

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ "uhh" is a thing someone says to buy time. "wat" is a meme.

Adám

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ U+2028 (line separator)

Uriel

@Adám well, we consider this institute as crap here. nobody cares about them

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

ty

Adám

@Uriel Tanin, Leviatan, Madregot, Chashmal, Bitachon…?

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn My German lesson was quite funny today given that "Schneit" was a new word (shn-eye-t) to learn :P

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

22:57

Shniet!

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing You're Dutch right? Or was it Norwegian? I forget entirely, sorry.

caird coinheringaahing

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ That's pronounced shneet

@MagicOctopusUrn J'habite en l'Angleterre

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

eh

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ohhh, franswahhh? FRANCOIS!

Adám

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ ="I live in England"

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

22:59

what

Uriel

@Adám what about these? the latters have double meanings. the first differ only considering notes on biblical sources

Magic Octopus Urn

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Oh... it's in French, but you said I live in England in french...?

Adám

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ ≈English spelling of French pronunciation of "French" in French.

caird coinheringaahing

I'm English, I live in England and I speak French, German and English

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing NICE! I was hoping that, what is mandatory language education for the UK?

@cairdcoinheringaahing Can help me settle an argument with a friend.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

23:00

i am going to say this again. what?

Adám

@Uriel The double meanings are new. They have only one meaning each in LH"K.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Have to learn at least French up to year 9 (grade 8 I think) and then completely up to us. I chose to learn both French and German

@MagicOctopusUrn Sure, but am on mobile so am typing slowly

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing The only languages offered to us (as Americans) are French, Spanish and German. Do you have more options?

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Do children here actually learn French, or just study it?

Uriel

@Adám well, not really. all meanings are related. but that's really going deep into

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

23:01

@Mego today i found out you a married and you are her little penguin and that you have SWEET RINGS

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn No

@Adám Leant it

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~~Crap. I lost a bet.~~ YESSSS. THAT WAS THE BET.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Well, depends on the school. Some still offer Latin

Uriel

@Adám learn ≠ study?

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing The bet was whether or not latin was taught in england still haha!

Adám

23:03

@Uriel Of course. You can study something without success.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn I mean, we can, but not a lot of schools do.

Adám

Ah, the good ol' days: When my father went to (Jewish) school in Denmark, they had to learn Danish, Hebrew, Swedish, Norwegian, English, German, and French. Latin and Greek were optional.

Uriel

@Adám if one had put effort and gotten no result he should not believe [that he made enough effort]

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing In america, gradeschools don't' teach Latin, ever... And it's the only language I wish I knew.

DJMcMayhem

TIL you can overwrite a class's constructor while still referring to the original constructor in the new one:

caird coinheringaahing

23:05

@Adám That's way too many :P

DJMcMayhem

class Foo:
    def __init__(self, must_be_a_number):
        if type(must_be_a_number) is not int:
            raise ValueError("Foo must be constructed with an integer!")

        self.value = must_be_a_number

class Foo(Foo):
    def __init__(self, can_be_a_str):
        super(Foo, self).__init__(int(can_be_a_str))

a = Foo(6)
b = Foo("7")
print(a.value)
print(b.value)

Adám

@Uriel Some places they teach the students without effort being put into it.

Uriel

@Adám @Adám I don't know if I preserved the structure so you'd notice the quote. Anyway, I believe it talks about the student

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn I love languages (natural and programming) but never want to learn Latin

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing Latin discerns more about etymology and the history of word evolution, which I find fascinating tbh.

Adám

23:06

@Uriel If course I recognised it. c|:-) ← Jewish smiley.

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing I agree though, if you want to learn a language you can USE, Latin sucks (unless you're a historian).

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing No, knowing lots of languages it so useful. I so wish that I knew more. At least Spanish, Arabic, Latin, Greek, Russian, Japanese, and a couple of Chinese languages would be nice.

Uriel

@Adám yeah, I heard you got all books translated but I haven't got a look on the translations

Magic Octopus Urn

@Adám Jesus, do you know ANY Asian (probably the wrong term) languages? B/c the learning curve for each language is very steep.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn I find etymology fascinating (as a hobby) but wouldn't want to properly learn the grammar structure in Latin. The vocab is alright

Adám

23:08

@MagicOctopusUrn No, I don't know any east-Asian languages. :-(

Uriel

@Adám the only languages worth learning are the ones you have a use for

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh yeah... Speaking Latin to female historians in America would get you 20 college girlfriends though if you studied aboard over here. That's about it.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám I tried teaching myself Russian and Spanish. I know a bit of Russian, but Spanish was too similar to French to distinguish from went talking

Adám

As part of his education, my father went for half a year on a ship to East-Asia. In Japan, they picked up a 25yo Japanese passenger who knew 25 languages fluently.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn How about talking to guys? Does it still work? If so, I should learn Latin

Magic Octopus Urn

23:10

@cairdcoinheringaahing Latin is in the cirriculum for certain historical degrees here, and the people who want to learn are usually starved for info. I knew a transfer student who knew latin and he made serious bank off his knowledge. (he was male and straight, and definitely met more women than me tutoring CSE, can't speak for meeting males from experience).

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing I can only read Cyrillic (and Greek) slowly. I don't understand much. I also tend to mix closely related languages, like the 3.5 Germanic ones I know.

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing Can't speak for meeting males from experience, never really asked on that front b/c it didn't make sense.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám I can convert the Greek into English letters, then I'm screwed :P

@MagicOctopusUrn Yeah, probably wouldn't :P

:O I just realised that DJ's profile was a cat with a hat and orange hair!

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing DUDE. WHAT? IT IS?

@cairdcoinheringaahing I must be blind, I thought it was fireworks.

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Zoom in on it!

Magic Octopus Urn

23:13

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wow, I AM blind lol!

Adám

I once started learning conversational Latin in Latin. Was fun. Should have kept it up. Now I don't have the time. The last language I learned was Yiddish (7-8 years ago) and while it went smoothly and quickly, it was only due to total immersion. I can't do such anymore, now that I have a family…

Magic Octopus Urn

On-topic: When I get 10,000 reputation, can I do anything special?

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn Everything you can currently do stays the same after we get a design (I think, but that may be 15k)

Magic Octopus Urn

@cairdcoinheringaahing Then, new question, what's the highest amount of REP that actually matters? So I know when to just bounty to people.

Uriel

@MagicOctopusUrn 5000 for privileges

codegolf.stackexchange.com/help/privileges

ATaco

23:17

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caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn 25k gets you access to site statistics after design. 10k gives you deletion powers

Uriel

@cairdcoinheringaahing 5000 is site analytics here

Maltysen

@cairdcoinheringaahing lol "after design"

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Why should visual styling affect user abilities?

Magic Octopus Urn

@ATaco Wha... What was that... What was that person even attempting?

caird coinheringaahing

23:20

@Adám the design shows the second stage of graduation, including privilege updates to a full site, like SO

@MagicOctopusUrn Clearly, they were trying to get someone to ask what they were doing :P

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing That just seems wrong, somehow. Anyway, we'll never get our design.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám That's good for me. I just got these shiny new tools, I don't want to lose them!

At least I'll still be able to VTC/VTRO

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@Downgoat what happened to goathub?

Adám

G'nite everyone!

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

night

Downgoat

23:48

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ have been busy but I am planning on app store release after integrating a few new GH features

>_< did rm -rf --cached . instead of git rm -rf --cached .

Destructible Lemon

@Downgoat why do you always do this

you really need to stop using -f with rm

ATaco

Never Forget mv /* /www/*

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