The Nineteenth Byte

ETHproductions

00:02

By careful repeated modulation you can get the interval down to [0,258]

Alright, gtg now

ATaco

Remove spaces, convert from base36, modulo 542 produces unique values.

DJMcMayhem

00:20

But then you still need to compress the chapter count array

ATaco

00:31

(b36(n)-length(n)^2)%325 works, too.

HyperNeutrino

00:53

someone should go answer OEIS

the next sequence is finite so you can hardcode it

Nobody

01:39

I'm curious if I can modify a SystemUI to have software power/volume keys

phones are changing to software home keys, those power and volume keys could go software

ATaco

On which device?

Nobody

Any, mostly galaxy s8

o brb breakfast

10am here

ATaco

Android, almost definitely.

HyperNeutrino

wat is this next sequence ._.

ATaco

I interpreted it as "Not my problem"

HyperNeutrino

01:48

ಠ_ಠ

I hope I don't need to pull a Python last-minute answer again... especially since SOMEONE KEEPS WASTING PYTHON

ATaco

It's just python, no loss :P

HyperNeutrino

ಠ_ಠ

I don't know any other languages in which I can actually implement an idea without a thousand lines of boilerplate (java)

I should learn more languages

ATaco

Try Lua

HyperNeutrino

there's also Proton which is only half-broken

I might look into learning Haskell, maybe Lua? I heard Crystal and Rust are quite nice too

I feel like rather than learning more languages I should learn how to use them better :P

ATaco

Me and Leaky are here if you need Lua help. I'm sure Pavel would help you with Ruby.

HyperNeutrino

01:51

I've also heard that Ruby is bad

it looks somewhat nice but I don't like having functions be able to be called without parentheses

like really, "123".to_i is so ambiguous, is that a property or a niladic function? (I know it's a function in this case but still)

John Dvorak

It's always a function

HyperNeutrino

what do you mean by always in this case

ATaco

Well, indexing is calling a function in most languages.

HyperNeutrino

Also, Enlist (my new language) is now set up and ready to start loading with functions! :D

John Dvorak

The dot notation calls a function. Period. It's up to the receiving object to interpret the method as property access and oblige.

HyperNeutrino

01:53

hm okay

that's still somewhat unfamiliar to me but interesting.

ATaco

IIRC, things in parenthesis (And or blocks) are additional arguments, not an explicit call.

John Dvorak

attr_reader is just a function that generates getter within your class.

HyperNeutrino

also the map and filter syntax with the blocks is quite cool

@JohnDvorak wait so "properties" are really just nilads

John Dvorak

Yes

ATaco

Properties are dyads in Lua :P

a[b] calls getmetatable(a).__index(a,b)

John Dvorak

01:55

attr_accessor :foo is the same thing as def foo; @foo; end; def foo=(x); @foo = x; end

HyperNeutrino

._. is confuz

but that looks interesting :D

@ATaco is __a like the equivalent of python __a__

Nobody

back

HyperNeutrino

hi nobody

I should become friends with you just so I can say "Nobody is my friend"

ATaco

@HyperNeutrino Yep.

HyperNeutrino

cool

ATaco

01:57

I love messing around with __index :P

HyperNeutrino

Wait you can override the functions of built-in classes in Lua?

ATaco

Yep, but it falls under the premise of "Please don't"

John Dvorak

Oh, and in Ruby, foo.bar(arg) is actually a shorthand for foo.send(:bar, args) :P

... or foo.method(:bar).call(args)

HyperNeutrino

@ATaco yay \o/ I should learn Lua I really don't like not being able to override Python things

also how do you add strings in Lua

oh wait the answer was literally right there for me to see

ATaco

a .. b

John Dvorak

01:59

And, of course, foo.call(args) can be abbreviated as foo.(args)

HyperNeutrino

tio.run/##HYxBCoAwDATvviL01ILkB/7Cm4hUjVq0UdoU/…

@JohnDvorak wait what ._.

John Dvorak

irb(main):006:0> class Foo
irb(main):007:1>  def method_missing(name, *args)
irb(main):008:2>   p [name, *args]
irb(main):009:2>  end
irb(main):010:1> end
=> :method_missing
irb(main):011:0> Foo.new.(1)
[:call, 1]
=> [:call, 1]

ATaco

Try it online!

HyperNeutrino

Best I can do in python ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ tio.run/##Vcw9DsIwDIbhmZzCypQIlIWtEkPuwB5F1G0jtaaK3YHTh/DTUibrs/…

@ATaco whoa cool :D

John Dvorak

And, of course, a method definition evaluates to the method name as a symbol and a class definition evaluates to its last expression.

HyperNeutrino

02:03

is metatable the "don't touch this but I won't die if you do" thing?

ATaco

Metatables are designed for working with user's tables.

They're the closest things to classes Lua has.

John Dvorak

the former is actually useful as private is actually a function that takes a method name and makes the method by that name private.

ATaco

_G is the scope, and that's conveniently a table, and Strings are also conveniently tables.

HyperNeutrino

@ATaco wait so lua doesn't have classes?

ATaco

Not without making them yourself, no.

HyperNeutrino

02:04

hm interesting

ATaco

But you don't particularly need them with the glory that is nothing but tables.

HyperNeutrino

hm okay

what if somebody does a (ノ°Д°）ノ︵ ┻━┻ to your code

ATaco

attempted to call a nil value

HyperNeutrino

hm?

also what is with nil, None, and null lol

pls decide on actual standard

ATaco

That's like, 90% of the errors that lua throws.

HyperNeutrino

02:10

lol

ATaco

null is used in typed languages, nil is used in dynamically typed languages, None is used in bad languages.

:P

HyperNeutrino

ಠ_ಠ

Nobody

what about undefined

also am I null, nil or undefined

ATaco

undefined is like null but prior to definition, it has its uses, but I don't like it.

HyperNeutrino

undefined means that it's not defined. null means that it's defined to mean nothing.

I think. If that even makes sense :P

Nobody

02:15

hm

Leaky Nun

oh programming languages can you step up your game

HyperNeutrino

?

Nobody

not defined... and defined as nothing?

ATaco

If programming languages were consistent than concatenating strings would make sense.

Nobody

We really need an esolang physical keyboard

HyperNeutrino

02:17

most languages use + which makes sense because you're adding them end to end. Lua's .. which typically means "range' makes no sense IMO

ATaco

PHP: `.`
Lua: `..`
Javascript: `+`
C: *Screams in the distance*

HyperNeutrino

lol

Leaky Nun

lol, C, step up your game

John Dvorak

Haskell: ++

HyperNeutrino

Jelly: ;

Python, Proton, Positron, etc: +

Nobody

02:18

Brainf**k: *Holy Brainf**k I'm not doing this*

oops

ATaco

Stares in horror at that markdown

Jelly: Also ,, but only sometimes

Nobody

better

John Dvorak

Brainfuck: >.[>.].[>.]<[<]>[,>]

Nobody

whitespace:

HyperNeutrino

@ATaco well no technically "ab" , "cd" => ["ab", "cd"] and "ab" ; "cd" => "abcd"

(keeping in mind that a string is really a list of characters

ATaco

02:20

I did say only sometimes

Nobody

Whitespace: screams loudly without sound and form but unknown matter

HyperNeutrino

@ATaco well that's just because of the way Jelly outputs :P

@ATaco that is a literal

And you are wrong

ATaco

Well, it works anyway.

HyperNeutrino

not really

ATaco

For the string it did.

HyperNeutrino

02:22

well it appeared to but try using [OE]R :P

or whatever the Python Stringify atom is

ATaco

Forte: You don't get strings, that's not a thing you're allowed.

HyperNeutrino

ಠ_ಠ my program wasn't working because I had - where it should've been +

ATaco

Vigil: +, but carefully.

HyperNeutrino

what is vigil and why does "but carefully" sound familiar... :P

(Also, I'm wondering when the number of GitHub repositories I have will surpass my IQ)

ATaco

Vigil is a programming language that punishes bad code.

HyperNeutrino

02:25

wait so it just deletes bad code :o

Nobody

C++: + meh I have this, you dont have this, my -- counterpart, bleeeech

ATaco

C++ has std::string, but I don't like to use it because it's strange and probably heresy.

Nobody

huh

use wstring or something then

ATaco

char* or bust.

Nobody

typedef char* string

HyperNeutrino

02:31

#define #define #include?

Nobody

MathTM, My experimental unfinished not started fictional lang: nope this doesnt have string processing its just math so duh

HyperNeutrino

Also, Enlist golfing language :D

which is definitely in no way TC yet because it just became functional

ATaco

#include <stdlib.h>
int size(char*c){int i;for(i=0;c[i];i++);return i}
char* concat(char*s1,char*s2){
	int size_1 = size(s1);
	int size_2 = size(s2);
	char*out = (char*)calloc(sizeof(char),size_1+size_2);
	for(int i=0;s1[i];i++){
		out[i] = s1[i];
	}
	for(int i=0;s2[i];i++){
		out[i+size_1] = s2[i];
	}
	return out;
}

There, much better!

HyperNeutrino

lol

Nobody

umm

HyperNeutrino

02:32

true coding at its finest

Nobody

I think theres strcat

ATaco

There is, yes.

but it's in string.h and thus is heresy.

Nobody

umm

ATaco

I'm a terrible C programmer.

HyperNeutrino

Also in Java "0" + "1" == "01" and '0' + '1' == 'a' which is great :D

Nobody

02:33

at least its not "string"

HyperNeutrino

Does anyone have any idea why this segfaults?

ATaco

a+b=(random chunk of memory)

Thanks C

Nobody

@HyperNeutrino character literals. even C has them

HyperNeutrino

I know :P

(well actually I didn't know that about C, that's cool :D)

Nobody

@HyperNeutrino overflow?

HyperNeutrino

02:35

what is overflow

Nobody

hm

lemme see

ATaco

Hold on, let me explain.,

Nobody

a is overflowing

ATaco

a is allocated the memory that is the length of the string, "Hello, ". Then, you try to set the character at the position just after that, when you start looping through b. char*a cannot be longer than "Hello, ", you need to allocate a new chunk of memory.

Nobody

c strings have constant length

crap

ninjad

hmm

apparently iPhone 8 is following the way of Note 7

they're swelling

Leaky Nun

02:55

112 bytes for concatenation (btw strlen is a thing and sizeof(char) is always 1)

@ATaco

ATaco

@LeakyNun Although true, it's not in the documentation as such.

Leaky Nun

@ATaco hmm?

ATaco

The documentation for C doesn't explicitly state that sizeof(char) returns 1.

Leaky Nun

@ATaco interesting

Anonymous

03:13

@ATaco Yes it does. 6.5.3.4§4 of the C11 Standard:

When sizeof is applied to an operand that has type char, unsigned char, or signed char, (or a qualified version thereof) the result is 1.

Anonymous

(Page 90, which is page 108 of the PDF)

ATaco

My apologies, I stand corrected.

quartata

oh snap you just got wrecked by ANSI

Anonymous

@quartata ISO, but close :P

MD XF

03:44

If I'm writing a challenge asking users to create a Turing-complete language, what tests can I provide for them to check that it is Turing-complete?

Maltysen

@MDXF implement any other tc lang

MD XF

Oh that's a good idea thanks

Anonymous

Implement brainfuck. It's easy and well-known.

quartata

I feel like there's already been a challenge like this

MD XF

The description I gave was not even scraping the bottom of the challenge.

quartata

03:51

Oh OK

MD XF

I don't think it's even ready for the sandbox though, I'm working on it in a Gist atm

Challenger5

I'd suggest some of ais's stuff

Some of it it much easier to implement than BF, even

MD XF

Link to one? (I can't see how something can be easier to implement than BF)

Challenger5

You don't have to handle matching brackets.

MD XF

Oh true, that does make it difficult

Challenger5

03:58

Consider 7 or Portable Minsky Machine Notation

(7 is confusing though)

MD XF

@Challenger5 Portable Minsky Machine Notation is string-based as opposed to character-based, making it much harder to implement in esolangs

Challenger5

ResPliCate It's basically an automaton with no IO, not sure if it will suit your needs

MD XF

I'll just leave it open saying 'you must implement or prove equivalence to any other Turing-complete language'

Challenger5

Or Three Star Programmer

How about BitwiseCyclicTag?

Or "CT" as described on the page for Bitwise Cylcic Tag

Which is basically just BCT but 0 is 10, 1 is 11, ; is 0

MD XF

Those look interesting

On a definitely related note, where could I buy a Zero Instruction Set Computer?

Challenger5

04:08

CT should be really easy to implement: https://pastebin.com/i6MzgMgN

MD XF

That's remarkably simple

Challenger5

I still don't understand how it's TC

MD XF

Where's a webpage for BCT or CT?

Challenger5

esolangs.org/wiki/Bitwise_Cyclic_Tag#The_language_CT

MD XF

Thanks

quartata

04:11

It's a tag system, check Wikipedia

wrong on both accounts actually, I thought it was older lol

1943 anyways

Challenger5

> A tag system is a deterministic computational model published by Emil Leon Post in 1943 as a simple form of a Post canonical system. A tag system may also be viewed as an abstract machine, called a Post tag machine (not to be confused with Post-Turing machines)—briefly, a finite state machine whose only tape is a FIFO queue of unbounded length, such that in each transition the machine reads the symbol at the head of the queue, deletes a constant number of symbols from the head, and appends...

It's not really a very readable aritcle...

MD XF

Well it is once you understand the (many) terms used

quartata

The last sentence you cut off actually explains it

You read the first character in the string, delete characters at the end and append a new string and then repeat until the first character is a special halting symbol

Challenger5

Fair enough

It said my message was too long

MD XF

Making a list here

Challenger5

04:25

ResPlicate interpreter in Python

If you are going to let a language that requires bracket-matching be on there, I suggest Underload. It does require brace-matching, but it's easier

I also submitted a ResPlicate interpreter in CJam, which was 2nd place at the time

Sherlock9

04:46

@flawr Thanks for the tip. I'll see if I can use that in a different challenge

ATaco

05:27

@DJMcMayhem RProgN 2, 9 bytes ]Ly=³y*w;

New Main Posts

07:07

0

Q: Back to the Basics of Math

Introduction: We all know these three basic arithmetic math tables I assume. ADDITION: + | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ---------------------------------- 1 | 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 2 | 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 3 | 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 4 | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 1...

Neil

08:39

has there been a challenge on zooming a unicode box e.g. ╶┼╴⇒╺━━╋━━╸ (but also vertically)?

New Main Posts

0

Q: Elliptic system

Introduction Given five points in the plane, your task is to compute the area of the ellipse passing through these points. You can assume that exactly one non-degenerate ellipse can be constructed with the given input values. Rules Input is 10 integers in any convenient form, corresponding to...

code-golf math geometry

orlp

09:41

@flawr why did you delete your math question?

I don't think it's a problem to ask for help for PPCG challenges

anyway, this is the answer: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1385426/…

flawr

@orlp cause I found a solution

flawr

10:00

@orlp Now I still used your formula, as it is shorter, so thanks!

orlp

@flawr well it isn't my formula :P

flawr

Just updated my answer

now I have to golf it

orlp

11:01

is there a closed form for a specific roll of codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/144146/… ?

or in other words

a closed form for the nth coefficient of (x^b - 1)^a / (x-1)^a

Adám

It is possible to ping multiple people in chat?

orlp

@Adám I believe it is, yes

I don't know if there's a limit

to be honest I think the ping limit on comments should be raised to 2 or 3

there's many valid cases where you'd want to notify multiple people

Adám

@orlp I agree. And we have flags for abuse.

Neil

7

Q: How can I (algorithmically) count the number of ways n m-sided dice can add up to a given number?

I am trying to identify the general case algorithm for counting the different ways dice can add to a given number. For instance, there are six ways to roll a seven with two 6-dice. I've spent quite a bit of time working on this (for a while my friend and I were using Figurate numbers, as the ea...

probability combinatorics algorithms dice

mathworld.wolfram.com/Dice.html

orlp

@Neil thanks

Neil

11:15

dunno how easy that is to calculate compared to the brute force methods

orlp

@Neil have you changed name recently? or were you not in the chat a lot?

because you have quite a high reputation but somehow I don't recognize you too much

or maybe I have dementia

Neil

I haven't been in the chat

orlp

oh now I remember you often answer in javascript

Neil

I came to chat for some reason and I haven't had to reboot since so I'm still here

Adám

Interesting metric: Post bytes/Code byte for a code golf submission post.

ASCII-only

11:41

@wizzwizz4 Charcoal, 22 bytes

that reminds me, i need to fix everything >_>

CMP: Is implicit input at the end of a program a good idea? If so, how would Charcoal tell whether it's a number or a string? (implicit input meaning any missing operator args are filled in with input commands)

Adám

@ASCII-only CMP?

ASCII-only

Chat mini poll

Adám

@ASCII-only Gosh. Is that official now?

ASCII-only

@Adám kinda

Adám

@ASCII-only IC. I'll add it to

27

Q: What are the PPCG specific abbreviations and terms?

Newcomers to PPCG are often compelled to ask what many of our abbreviations and terms mean. Let us list them here so this information always will be easily available.

discussion chat new-users faq-proposed

ASCII-only

11:48

@Adám :P That's what I was thinking when you asked about the acronym haha

@DJMcMayhem Charcoal, way too many LOC

Jester Tran

hi

can someone send me a link to the discord channel for codegolf?

ASCII-only

@JesterTran discord.gg/x6fSSz

Jester Tran

thank ou

Adám

@ASCII-only What is that?

ASCII-only

wait crap wrong channel lol

@JesterTran oops this one

@Adám a link to the wrong discord >_>

New Sandboxed Posts

12:03

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cops and robbers I have not determined exactly what the task shall be yet, so I'll use a placeholder task that has been used before. I want feedback regarding the cops/robber part. Are there any pitfalls here? Will it be too hard to write an uncrackable Cop post? The task Write a piece of c...

Adám

12:31

TIO bash quine: cat .code.tio

ASCII-only

@Adám -1 source reading

flawr

@Riker what did the oil say to the water?

Adám

@flawr Was that really necessary?

flawr

I'm pretty sure he's gonna like it

Ven

@Adám I got the package! Thank you so much! 👍

flawr

12:38

@orlp Have you tried looking into generating functions?

Adám

@Ven Great. Btw, maybe you or your students would like to participate in apl.codegolf.co.uk?

Ven

@Adám I'll forward the message. Thanks :D

I'm not sure I'll have time to participate

orlp

13:33

@flawr that is the generating function silly :P

Ven

@Adám If I may: I think it'd be a good idea to have a "hole 0", that's easier for newcomers, just to get them into it.

Adám

@Ven You mean a walked through example?

Ven

@Adám That'd work as well, I guess?

Adám

@Ven What else did you mean?

Ven

@Adám A "guaranteed hole"

Currently pondering how I should go about partitioning myself

Adám

13:41

@Ven Something trivial? Like the average of a vector?

Ven

Probably a bit less trivial, but yes, that's the idea.

Adám

@Ven Partitioning? Like using ⊂ or ⊆?

@Ven … with the added requirement that Avg ⍬ should be 0.

Ven

Well, ⊂ doesn't work the way I want to, and there's no ⊆ in tryapl.org

Adám

@Ven Soon, hopefully. What are you trying to do? Or shall we take this in

The APL Orchard

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2

?

Ven

(By "there's no" I mean ⊆ yields an "invalid token")

Adám

13:54

CMC: Normalise a numeric list – keep the same relative differences between the elements, but let the minimum be 0 and the maximum be 1.

E.g. 2 5 2 8 2 8 → 0 0.5 0 1 0 1

Ven

Should I post the answer from the APL room? :P

well, it doesn't do the same thing.

Adám

@Ven It almost does.

Giuseppe

@Adám R, 30 bytes, function(l,b=l-min(l))b/max(b)

Adám

@Giuseppe Yeah, R was pretty much made for this, no?

Giuseppe

@Adám it does its job, for sure.

Leaky Nun

14:09

@Adám that's hardly what "normalize" means :P

make the mean 0 and the s.d. 1

Adám

@LeakyNun It is when I say so. ;-)

Downgoat

Is sd = mad?

Leaky Nun

@Adám Jelly, 10 bytes: Ṣ.ị_/÷@_Ṃ$

@Downgoat standard deviation

Giuseppe

@Adám MATL, 8 bytes, tX<-tX>/

Emigna

@Adám 05AB1E, 4 bytes: W-Z/

Adám

14:21

Conjecture: All solutions will have at least one slash /

Giuseppe

@Adám I think Julia has the division sign (÷) for division...

Adám

@Giuseppe So does APL (and without paying UTF-8 price for it), but the APL solution still needs a slash.

Giuseppe

Or even x\y == y/x

Neil

@Adám Jelly, 5 bytes: _Ṃµ÷Ṁ

Leaky Nun

@Adám why does {⍺[⍋⍺]} 2 5 2 8 2 8 error?

Adám

14:25

@Neil Conjecture disproven.

@LeakyNun Can you provide a TryAPl or TIO link?

Leaky Nun

tryapl.org/…

@Neil lol I'm an idiot

Giuseppe

Julia, 45 bytes
https://tio.run/##yyrNyUw0@/8/rTQvuSQzP08hTSNHkyvHNkc3NzMvM7c0F8TNTayAMmNyuFLzUv4XFGXmleTkaaRpRBspmCoYKViAcKym5n8A

function f(l)
l=l-minimum(l)
maximum(l)\l
end

Adám

@LeakyNun Because ⍺ is the LEFTmost letter in the Greek alphabet, not the RIGHTmost one – that's ⍵.

AdmBorkBork

@Adám PowerShell, 56 bytes -- param($a)$b=$a|%{$_-($a|sort)[0]};$b|%{$_/($b|sort)[-1]} -- port of the R answer

Adám

@Giuseppe No markdown in multi-line msgs.

Leaky Nun

14:27

@Adám and (⊢[⊃⍋])?

Giuseppe

@Adám now they tell me

Adám

@LeakyNun Because […] does not fit into the harmonised APL syntax, and so cannot be used for indexing in trains. Try ⊃∘⍋⊃⊢ or simply ⌊/

Leaky Nun

@Adám oh lol

Adám

@LeakyNun Learning APL?

Leaky Nun

@Adám APL, 10 bytes: (⊢÷⌈/)⊢-⌊/

@Adám just doing your CMC in your language :P

Adám

14:33

@LeakyNun Nice, you actually outgolfed me. Your solution has a beautiful symmetry when written as the equivalent (⊢÷⌈/)(⊢-⌊/)

@LeakyNun Maybe participate in apl.codegolf.co.uk?

Leaky Nun

@Adám what was yours?

Adám

@LeakyNun No, I had (⊢-⌊/)÷⌈/-⌊/

AdmBorkBork

lol ... all y'all here knowing and answering in multiple languages and here I am barely knowing PowerShell. ;-)

Neil

I don't know Jelly

Adám

@AdmBorkBork I can help you learn APL too if you're interested. (I also basically only know one language.)

AdmBorkBork

14:35

@Adám No thanks - one language I barely know is enough. haha

Leaky Nun

@Adám when does it start?

Adám

@LeakyNun Started already!

Leaky Nun

@Adám when does it end?

inb4 "Ended already!"

Adám

@LeakyNun Oct 22, as stated on the community ad. (I'll ask them to add it on the site)

Leaky Nun

@Adám 19 days to do 9 problems?

Adám

14:39

@LeakyNun Yeah, managable?

Leaky Nun

@Adám lemme see

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám For leaky? I'm sure he could do all 9 in 9 different languages in 1 day :P

Mr. Xcoder

What algorithm did you use for the "normalize" the list challenge? I fail too see it from the Jelly answers

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm sure he can, but can he do it in APL? And can he win?

Leaky Nun

@Mr.Xcoder list <- list - minimum; list <- list / maximum

Mr. Xcoder

14:51

@LeakyNun What does <- mean?

Leaky Nun

assign

Mr. Xcoder

Ok, thanks

@LeakyNun But what if the list's maximum is 0?

Pavel

Shhhh

Giuseppe

@Mr.Xcoder that would only occur when the list is all identical

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Can we assume that the list only contains positive integers

Adám

14:55

@Mr.Xcoder No, but you can assume that the list has at least two different values.

Mr. Xcoder

@Giuseppe You assume that it doesn't contain negatives, don't you?

caird coinheringaahing

What's the CMC?

Mr. Xcoder

1 hour ago, by Adám

CMC: Normalise a numeric list – keep the same relative differences between the elements, but let the minimum be 0 and the maximum be 1.

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing You know there is a search box in to top right? Enter "CMC" there to find the latest CMC.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Didn't work. Linked me to this :P

Giuseppe

14:57

@Mr.Xcoder yeah but since l - min(l) will only result in zeros where the value is the min so the max of l-min(l) will always be positive.

Pavel

ASCII-only has been awake for the past 37 hours o_0

Mr. Xcoder

@Pavel Huh how?

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel How do you know?

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Huh? I get this (← bookmark this, everyone!)

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Yeah, but the first message on that isn't your CMC

Pavel

14:58

@cairdcoinheringaahing I asked when he woke up and he's been participating in conversation somehwere consistently for the entire time since.

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Up for some training?

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Just about to ask you :P See you in JHT?

Mr. Xcoder

There already

Riker

@flawr >____<

lol though

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing The first message which begins with "CMC:" is.

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