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4:00 PM
You are all wrong. The correct answer is Error encountered!
 
CMC: what does 3-2+1 output in your chosen language
 
@totallyhuman nothing in Add++
 
@totallyhuman Charcoal, 3-2+1
 
Nothing in MY. But the stack is [5,1].
 
CMC: What does your language's name output in your language?
 
4:01 PM
... not in the codepage.
 
@totallyhuman actually 5\n1
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Error: VSL is not defined
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Charcoal Charcoal
@Downgoat +1
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing nothing in Add++
 
4:02 PM
Java:
Main.java:1: error: reached end of file while parsing
Java
^
1 error
Error: Could not find or load main class Main
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Main
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Or just errors if you use ASCII.
 
/var/lib/gems/2.3.0/gems/whittle-0.0.8/lib/whittle/parser.rb:251:in `block in lex': Unmatched input "Numerical\n" on line 1 (Whittle::UnconsumedInputError)
	from /var/lib/gems/2.3.0/gems/whittle-0.0.8/lib/whittle/parser.rb:250:in `tap'
	from /var/lib/gems/2.3.0/gems/whittle-0.0.8/lib/whittle/parser.rb:250:in `lex'
	from /var/lib/gems/2.3.0/gems/whittle-0.0.8/lib/whittle/parser.rb:204:in `parse'
	from numerical.rb:201:in `<main>'
 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "main.py", line 989, in MainFunction
    SpaceSplit(w,a,stack)
  File "main.py", line 556, in SpaceSplit
    stack.append(w.split(' '))
AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split'
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Numerical: ^^
 
...this question was a bad idea, too many giant pastes
 
4:03 PM
@ASCII-only you know the RosetTIO github? Can you add me as a collaborator?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Done
 
:o jelly didn't have mean, median and mode as built-ins until 11 days ago
 
@totallyhuman yeah, but it does now
 
> until 11 days ago
 
@totallyhuman better late than never
 
4:05 PM
@totallyhuman Mean ... that just would save 1 or 2 bytes. But mode probably should've been in there.
 
> just
that's a lot in code golf
 
@ASCII-only once I've finished it (it'll take a while), do you mind if I add "What does your language name output" to the repo?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes.
 
...but they're now two byte built-ins...
 
Plesesame don't
 
4:06 PM
> Plesase
 
ninja'd
 
@ASCII-only ok, I'll just work on it myself :(
 
@officialaimm it's a valid error quine
but no not a regular quine
 
But if errors go to stdout rather than stderr, isn't it a quine?
 
4:09 PM
@ASCII-only I just tried it, even error quines are difficult to make in Add++
 
...maybe
dunno
 
@Zacharý no because it is caused by error behaviour
 
actually yeah that makes sense
 
@officialaimm It's a valid normal quine I think, but not a proper quine
 
4:10 PM
It doesn't have an encoder and a decoder (or whatever they're called)
 
you can't define what an error is
only stable definition is "goes to STDERR"
anything that goes to STDOUT can't be categorized as an error
 
@totallyhuman if the language continues to execute code that occurs after the error causer, it isn't an error
 
because that's not objective
@cairdcoinheringaahing there's a difference between an error and a fatal error
 
@totallyhuman it is only an error if the words "error" "traceback" or "exception" are in the message returned
 
It's actually an caught exception for which I am displaying 'error !'... not a fatal error..
 
4:13 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing sorry, but that's a horrible criterion :P
 
@totallyhuman print("Error") is an error in Python :P
 
So, print("ERROR!") is an error now?!
 
Ninja'd :(
 
4:13 PM
Ninja'd
 
For some reason, MY in MY doesn't break on TIO
 
lol, /// fails in ///
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing yes
it was going to be a quine
but then i wasn't sure it'd be valid
 
But then commata died.
 
4:17 PM
How about this as a challenge (joke unless you like it): version of this
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing ... this will only decrease the popularity of popcorns
 
@ASCII-only good, they should die
 
Why should popcorn die?
 
Unrelated: Magi Planet popcorn is the best
 
4:19 PM
@Zacharý the only high votes pop cons are Calvin challenges and underhanded. Underhanded aren't allowed anymore and Calvin has been pressured into stop posting pop cons
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Only being allowed to use a single program per language doesn't even make it a challenge.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing popcorn, not pop-con.
 
Same difference
@ASCII-only meant pop-con
 
@totallyhuman very similar to Jelly
 
4:23 PM
stole half of it from iso-8859 and the other half from jelly
 
Also, does anyone know why /// errors in ///?
 
@totallyhuman -1, too many macrons.
 
@Zacharý I love macaroons!
 
@Zacharý ಠ_ಠ what do you have against macrons
 
Yeah, I think Emmanuel is doing a great job with France
 
4:24 PM
lol
 
Macrons are so great France is governed by one
 
And China is doing a great job with pinyin
 
ninja'd
 
Does anyone speak ///?
 
Thēȳ ārē ānnōȳīnḡ.
 
4:25 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing Matching an empty string is probably an error
 
Yes
 
@TuxCopter all it does it loop forever
 
Anyone want to golf some more hello worlds?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing That's intended behavior
/// means replace an empty string with an empty string
 
@Zacharý They are essential for China's current method of transcribing Chinese languages into the Latin alphabet
 
4:26 PM
@ASCII-only I gave up on golfing Commentator
 
because the input is empty it executes it forever
 
@ASCII-only i'd love to golf worlds
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing :/
 
they're too bloated
 
@Sherlock9 ḡ though ... >_<
 
4:27 PM
Now that I look at them the Archway/2 ones are really ungolfed
 
@Zacharý what's wrong with ḡ
 
Ēǖērȳthīnḡ.
 
Also complex numbers and conjugates. Admittedly, z̄ and w̄ are used more often in that case
 
@Zacharý that's not a v
 
CURSE YOU US-INTERNATIONAL-KEYBOARD-LAYOUT!
 
4:30 PM
And I am wrong on that last part. That's an overline, not a macron. Subtle difference
 
looks like VSL doesn't exist anymore
 
@totallyhuman huhwat yeah it doesn't
 
@ASCII-only check the starboard
 
@totallyhuman huh?
 
32 secs ago, by caird coinheringaahing
@ASCII-only check the starboard
 
4:32 PM
31 mins ago, by Downgoat
@cairdcoinheringaahing Error: VSL is not defined
 
oh
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

flawrProgram an Uncircularness Score Meta: This is just a rough idea for a slightly different challenge. I have no idea how successfull it would be in the current state, so feel free to share your opinions and suggestions. code-challengemathgeometry Your task is to program a mathematical function ...

 
grumble
 
but my appearing alone made people clear their act xD
thanks @mınxomaτ
@mınxomaτ FWIW, there's a hammer I could've swung
 
@ThomasWard lasers can do magical things
 
4:35 PM
but i chose not to because not starving to death comes first
noms food
 
stack exchange loves their hammers
2
 
@totallyhuman well Ask Ubuntu elected me a moderator, and I got a crystal of power with my mod diamond
and i just put that into my hammer so... :p
 
19 messages moved to Trash
 
@mınxomaτ thanks
 
next thing y'know, jon skeet's awarded the mjolnir
5
 
4:39 PM
There's an unwritten rule about trashed messages: Don't comment on the trashing, and don't comment on the invite. I think that's a record for breaking both of them :D
 
@mınxomaτ :P
still hungers for food, goes to get more
 
@totallyhuman did you know that Jon Skeet is the only user to beat Jon Skeet in the reputation leagues?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing x>x is never reasonable, even in Jon Skeet/Chuck Norris jokes
 
@Zacharý I do think its great that Jon Skeet got involved in that, rather than getting offended
 
And what is Dennis' opinion on the few "One does not simply ..." memes surrounding him?
 
4:42 PM
well the mods did delete the memes page
 
@Zacharý he deleted the memes page with it on, so not good, by my guess
 
hey look, the memes page became a meme
 
@totallyhuman one does not simply delete the memes page
 
Is it possible to see the memes page with enough rep?
 
4:44 PM
@Zacharý 2k
 
Then send me all the upvotes. :p
 
@Zacharý sorry, I can't read. Incoming downvotes!
 
Well, time to accept an answer on the Fortress challenge.
 
no need
don't accept answers
:P
 
4:46 PM
@Zacharý you can take any of my Sandbox posts that have less than 2 upvotes if you want
Just tell me first
 
I just want the rep.
 
@Zacharý so ask a question
 
and answer a question
or two
or a thousand
 
@totallyhuman he needs 220 rep
 
@totallyhuman I'm not Jon skeet.
 
4:47 PM
@Zacharý jon skeet has about 1M answers
 
no
33,911
 
Okay then, I'm not Dennis.
 
@totallyhuman 1M to the nearest 1M when 0 doesn't count
 
dennis has 2,319 answers
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing *about 1m rep
 
4:49 PM
@ASCII-only not yet :P Did you know that Jon Skeet has a code golf account :D
 
@ASCII-only What kind of celebration will occur when J.S. (lol, his initials are JS) reaches 1M rep?
 
@Zacharý he has already (chat)
 
@Zacharý ...no celebration
 
also why celebrate?
 
4:50 PM
@Zacharý He will upgrade his avatar :P
 
@Zacharý scientists will discover how to divide by zero and Cthulu and Zalgo will rise.
 
superuser.com/questions/352133 why-do-file-urls-start-with-3-slashes/352134#352134
ಠ_ಠ
 
@ThomasWard ask @Mr. Xcoder. Cthulhu has risen
 
Holy crap, the spam is real.
 
4:51 PM
@Zacharý what spam?
 
yay i got the outspoken badge.
 
oh hey ngn is back!
 
@EriktheOutgolfer who?
 
ngn?
 
NICK. The guy who created ngn-apl!
 
4:52 PM
what?
halp i have 300 values of a sequence and i dunno what to do with them
 
@totallyhuman forget them
 
no
;-;
 
what sequence?
 
@totallyhuman multiply them by their inverse.
 
it took me mathematica forever to generate them
 
4:53 PM
@totallyhuman plot them
 
@totallyhuman oeis them
 
@totallyhuman oeis
 
@ASCII-only no account
 
(of course you have to make account)
 
Oeis
 
4:54 PM
@totallyhuman make an account
 
@totallyhuman get an account
 
yeah it's not that simple to make an oeis account is it?
 
Ninjas everywhere.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing you gotta be like a mathematician
 
@totallyhuman No
 
4:54 PM
@totallyhuman have you taken GCSE math?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer It is
 
@ASCII-only no
 
I have one
 
oeis.org?
 
Got it within like a day
 
4:55 PM
I think you have to be an adult
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Of course, what else :P
@EriktheOutgolfer Nope
 
@ASCII-only a day is too long. Need to golf it down
 
and you need an about me page
 
@TuxCopter actually, that's not a half bad idea :P
 
<- has terrible about me page
 
4:55 PM
2
Q: Blind binary adder

ngnImagine you have two boxes B(x) and B(y), each containing an unknown bit - 0 or 1, and a machine F that can X-ray them and produce a third box for B(x^y) (xor). F can also compute B(x*y) (and). In fact, those are just special cases of the the single operation the machine can perform - inner produ...

 
@totallyhuman pls give them to me + generating function
 
@NewMainPosts Don't understand it, -1
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ_ಠ
 
@totallyhuman also what is the sequence
 
@ASCII-only name it the "I Am Groot" sequence. shot
 
4:56 PM
> "Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them."

sorry, had beans for lunch
+1 for ngn's bio
 
@ASCII-only why?
 
@TuxCopter number of distinct primes "hidden" in n digits of pi
 
The spam is real here.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing ?
 
Dennis' name backward is SINNED.
 
4:57 PM
@ASCII-only lmao
 
@Zacharý you know that anagram usernames was a meme?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes. I'm aware of it.
Has he used that username before?
 
@Zacharý Dennis never took part
> Answers

> No answers found for 'cairdcoinheringaahing'. Check you entered the letters correctly.
(anagram checker)
 
So, Dennis sinneD is a palindrome.
 

 A Nun Erases Gramma (Username Anagrams)

Finding anagrams for PPCG usernames
 
5:00 PM
 
what is the formula you used for the sequence?
 
Just call it the <insert real name here> sequence.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer i can give you mathematica code :P
don't have a formula
 
i am oddly amused there's 15 pages for the first handful of integers in teh fibbonaci sequence, when searched in oeis
2
 
5:02 PM
Teh "teh" phenomenon is long dead by now.
 
Hey, would some room owner clear the 1-star messages on the starboard?
 
@programmer5000 no, cause then I lose all my starred messages :(
 
Some of those stars are legit
 
@programmer5000 they were cleared a few minutes ago
 
5:04 PM
@Zacharý some being the operative word
I'm not sure what a legit star even is.
 
@totallyhuman ,,, has the longest output for its name so far (423 bytes)
 
Any star that Dennis distributes must be legit.
 
any star that mods distribute should...wait chat isn't lead by mod example >_>
 
in Trash, 31 mins ago, by caird coinheringaahing
It's happening again. I blame Dennis
 
5:07 PM
It's lead by Dennis example.
 
Chat isn't lead at all.
 
stars are anonymous!
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing That message is where it belongs, in the trash.
 
@Zacharý it was in the middle of complaining about star spam, which automatically goes to the trash now
 
yeah you can't just "blame" somebody for doing stuff you can't prove them doing
4
 
5:09 PM
Blame caching, it's not a person.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer you can blame, that doesn't meant its the truth
 
well it's not nice nevertheless
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I could blame you for Friends not currently making new episodes, that doesn't make it your fault
 
please stop it with the stars
 
These all seem legit-ish
 
5:11 PM
guys stop it with star wall abuse
4
seriously.
 
well they're eventually going to run out of stars anyways
 
grabs the diamond and loads the phaser rifle
 
@ThomasWard the irony
 
The most starred message was something about stop abusing stars.
 
because it was pinned?
 
5:12 PM
@Zacharý I believe it is also the most starred message of SE
 
pinned messages stay to the top no matter what for 14 days and that's how they get attention => stars
 
Does anyone here know Alice?
(the language)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer this wasn't pinned I think
 
@EriktheOutgolfer do you know how it works?
 
well, not exactly
 
5:13 PM
@MartinEnder why does Alice loop forever in Alice?
 
how was that considered offensive?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing I'd have to check what the individual commands do, but I doubt there's any command in there that can terminate the program, so...
 
He's here, that's why.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer its insinuating that one of our esteemed mods high rep users cheats on his significant other, which isn't nice
 
guys lets move on to a better topic please.
 
5:15 PM
(unless Martin thinks otherwise)
 
(sorry for intruding on your space, @MartinEnder)
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing well if the spam is so much as to not be able to understand a joke I'm out...
2
 
Anyone have any ideas for the language design meta challenge?
 
@MartinEnder, did you expect this when naming your language a feminine name?
 
Can someone check the output of my sandboxed challenge? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/6894/32686
 
5:19 PM
@muddyfish +14/-0 is easily good enough to post
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing I added my first testcase just now
It's complex enough I'm not sure it's correct or not
 
@muddyfish what about .svg image formats?
 
for the input
 
The challenge is to convert an image to ansi
I guess that's ok
 
5:21 PM
I think there is a meta standard for image input, but can't find it
 
There wasn't when I first wrote it up :P
Wow, that proposal's getting close to it's second birthday :D
 
@muddyfish post it on its second birthday
 
@muddyfish well it would be mostly impractical though right?
 
probably
 
@ThomasWard Doesn't that imply that there is a correct usage of star-walll-ing?
 
5:30 PM
Hey DJ
 
Should I start a "tips for golfing in MY?" to try to reach 2k rep?
 
Tips are the most likely category to be unanswered
 
@Zacharý absolutely not
2
 
there we go again...:/
 
If two people are starring it, it's likely not spam.
 
5:33 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing why?
 
Could someone run this in your console to find some sandboxed posts that should be deleted? I only have 1 delete vote per post :(
 
Either I'm having a very insightful day, or someone is spam starring my posts. At least that's proof its not me :P
@programmer5000 I can't VTD
 
I have a feeling it's a combination of both.
 
Could you downvote them so others can VTD?
 
ANd what is VTD?
 
5:34 PM
Vote To Delete
 
@programmer5000 found 8
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Because Zachary is the only person who uses MY. Its like me creating tips pages for Commentator, Add++ and ;#*
 
I've used commentator once
but yeah maybe
or even worse tips for sogl
 
Also, if you VTD privileges go here and review
It's the hidden delete vote review queue
 
5:37 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer I have a Commentator based challenge in the Sandbox :P
Oh, someone downvoted it :(
@programmer5000 I can VTD questions not answers D:
 
Wow, the HNQ is filled with questions from interpersonal.SE
 
@TuxCopter humans are flawed and want people to tell us how not to be flawed. Also, we hate each other and Interpersonal.SE tries to change that. (in short, it panders to the lowest common denominator)
 
CMC: attempt to find my github.
 
@Zacharý where do you live?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm not going to tell you that.
 
5:48 PM
@Zacharý hang on, finding the Dyalog comp page
 
@Zacharý zacharyjtaylor
 
Ok, I'll take a plane to ..., beat you up and ask where your github is. Do I win the CMC?
 
@TuxCopter No.
 
oh that's your bitbucket
 
@TuxCopter he has massively distanced his GitHub from PPCG
@Zacharý Guess mine
 
5:50 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing You've said it before.
 
@Zacharý so what is it?
 
You are one messed up child.
 
@Zacharý someone at my school gave me that nickname after I pulled a harmless prank on them, and I setup my github the day after, so i used it
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing satansson
 
5:52 PM
(it's on the jht list btw)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer that doesn't count
 
you have another one?
 
Any guesses on mine?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer as in looking for it in JHT
And yes, I have another one
 

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