The Nineteenth Byte

Step Hen

17:00

or whatever

totallyhuman

jelly doesn't overload the subtraction operator for strings

Noah Cristino

@StevenVascellaro I guess that's fine

totallyhuman

D:

Steven Vascellaro

I'm trying to find whether Code Golf supports it

Noah Cristino

that's fine

Steven Vascellaro

17:00

Ok, thanks

Noah Cristino

since it's for a question

but I'm not sure

you could ask on meta

Mayube

@StepHen SBCS isn't an encoding, it's a category of encoding

Steven Vascellaro

@NoahCristino That's probably a better idea

Step Hen

Jelly reads binary 00000000 to 11111111 as the 256 bytes in its codepage

Noah Cristino

@StevenVascellaro ya

Mayube

17:01

SBCS is any encoding that assigns a graphical (ie printable) character to all 256 byte values

Step Hen

@Mayube TIL, thanks - is there anywhere that has info on it?

Mayube

wikipedia

Step Hen

oh 0.o I swear I looked before

Business Cat

@totallyhuman Jelly doesn't overload it for addition either

quartata

codegolf.stackexchange.com/revisions/73104/7

@SIGSEGV ?????

I'm sick of people abusing their editing privileges like this.

totallyhuman

17:02

@BusinessCat well it kinda does

cartesian sum

Noah Cristino

that's terrible @quartata

like whyyy

im so annoyed with people not having try it links n their posts

its useless without one

Mayube

@StepHen SBCS literally stands for Single Byte Character Set

Step Hen

@Mayube I know I already read the wikipedia page

@NoahCristino it's not a requirement that you can run answers for them to be valid, the communtiy can test them

Noah Cristino

ascii is SBCS

totallyhuman

@StepHen and you didn't get enough info from wikipedia?!

Noah Cristino

17:06

@StepHen ik but it's helpful

Step Hen

(regular ascii is at least)

Noah Cristino

@StepHen look under early communications

DJMcMayhem

@StepHen Yeah. So it's a set of characters that fit into a byte. Still SBCS

Step Hen

@totallyhuman no I did, I just needed to be told it existed (which Mayube did earlier)

@DJMcMayhem oh you're right I misread that

totallyhuman

another do x without y challenge o0

Noah Cristino

17:07

what if my language has a 1/28 chance of working xD

that would be horrible to use

Step Hen

@NoahCristino especially if it fails silently

Noah Cristino

or scrambles the output

like all the output

is random

if it fails

Step Hen

what's the point then :P

Noah Cristino

or

it has a 1/4 chance of outputting the results of someone elses program

like it saves everyone's to the TIO site

then picks a random one lol

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Q: Sum two numbers without using addition operand

Your task Write a program who sum two numbers, without using the addition operand (+) in your code. Input Two non-negatives numbers between 0 and 1,000,000. Output A result indicating the sum of the two numbers. Example A = 10 B = 15 25 Scoring: This is code-golf, lowest byte count...

Noah Cristino

17:11

first answer codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/135924/61877

haha!

Steven Vascellaro

And the answer is nope!

Noah Cristino

it addes args to list then sums list

Steven Vascellaro

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Q: Does Code Golf support embedded YouTube videos?

Over on Meta Stack Exchange, SQB asked Which sites have YouTube embedding on? Searching on Meta Code Golf, I was able to find an announcement post for embedded SoundCloud audio files, but found no mention of embedded YouTube videos. Additionally, YouTube embedding is not supported in the markdow...

support formatting

Noah Cristino

instead of using a +

I meant to ask if you could test on meta, but that's fine

upvote

Steven Vascellaro

@Dennis It's not supported. You can breathe a sigh of relief.

Noah Cristino

17:14

how do you do strikethrough?

Step Hen

@NoahCristino On SE, <s>test</s>

Cows quack

---strikethrough--- ~~strikethrough~~

Noah Cristino

thx

totallyhuman

bah

Noah Cristino

only <s></s> worked

becuase it was in a header

Cows quack

17:18

--- works only in chat, <s> works only in SE posts

Noah Cristino

oh

thx anyway

~~sike~~

testing ;)

DJMcMayhem

CMC: Surround every line of input in ---.

Cows quack

testcase?

DJMcMayhem

"aaa\nbbb\nccc" --> "---aaa---\n---bbb---\n---ccc---"

Cows quack

oh. strikethrough

totallyhuman

17:25

lambda s:['---%s---'%i for i in s.split('\n')]

DJMcMayhem

2 8 byte solutions in V: Í^ü$/--- and 3ñÍ^ü$/-

Wait, 7 byte: Î3é-3Á-

Mr. Xcoder

Hallo

Cows quack

sed, 12 bytes, s/^\|$/---/g

totallyhuman

hi

Wheat Wizard

Anyone have an idea as to why I've been downvoted here?

Noah Cristino

17:29

iiidddkkk

dzaima

@DJMcMayhem SOGL, 10 bytes: ¶Θ⌡"MΙ─¹‘⁰

Mr. Xcoder

@WheatWizard Oh, please make a trivial edit to the meta post. I accidentally downvoted, instead of upvoting

Business Cat

@DJMcMayhem Retina, 9 bytes

Wheat Wizard

@Mr.Xcoder I made a small fix

Mr. Xcoder

@WheatWizard Sorry, Fixed

@DJMcMayhem Pyth, 14 bytes: K"---"m++KdK.z

Wheat Wizard

17:31

@Mr.Xcoder No worries. I don't mind being downvoted. I'd just like to know why.

totallyhuman

lol

Cows quack

yay sed beats Pyth

Noah Cristino

how do you get something like abc in jelly and turn it into [a, b, c]?

Mr. Xcoder

@Cowsquack I really question my golfing skills, don't be so sure...

totallyhuman

@NoahCristino do you mean a string?

Noah Cristino

17:32

string to array of chars

totallyhuman

it's internally already one

Noah Cristino

but

Business Cat

@Mr.Xcoder Does Pyth have a 1-char string shortcut? Could you do something like *'-3?

totallyhuman

you should be able to do what you want to do with a list with a string

Noah Cristino

tio.run/##y0rNyan8///hru7///8nJiX/NwYA

it outputs abcabcabc

instead of aaabbbccc

Mr. Xcoder

17:33

@BusinessCat No, one char, no

Noah Cristino

nvm

Mr. Xcoder

@BusinessCat It would be *3"-"

Noah Cristino

wrong x

TemporalWolf

I feel like this is a common issue, but any thoughts: I found an answer that cuts the length of my ArnoldC program in half, but it is far less funny than my current answer... should I edit and replace it?

Noah Cristino

edit

totallyhuman

17:34

use × instead

Noah Cristino

and add on

keep the other

@totallyhuman ik I used x tho

TemporalWolf

Hmm, not a shabby idea, thanks :)

totallyhuman

hmm how do i describe a string multiplied with a float

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman Floating String

trichoplax

@TemporalWolf If it's funniest-code, leave it as is. If it's code-golf, edit in the shorter version, but you can still leave the funny version as an afterword at the end of the answer

totallyhuman

17:36

@Mr.Xcoder :P

Noah Cristino

CMC: take any string and a number as input and multiply each letter x n like this: tio.run/##y0rNyan8/7/i////iUnJ/40B no jelly

Cows quack

Dyalog APL, 1 byte, /

trichoplax

@NoahCristino VTC for excluding a language without good reason

Business Cat

@NoahCristino CJam: q~e*

Noah Cristino

I was talking about this challenge in jelly

with totally

totallyhuman

17:37

intrnt in the future: x

Noah Cristino

so it wouldn't be fair if he just took my answer that I was talking about @trichoplax

@BusinessCat nice

@totallyhuman lol

Business Cat

Gaia, 3 bytes: ×¦$

Noah Cristino

no clue what that is but cool @BusinessCat

Cows quack

who wants to do the CMC in bash?

Mr. Xcoder

sm*Qdw

Noah Cristino

17:39

@BusinessCat can you teach me cJam in the cJam room?

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Q: Does Code Golf support embedded YouTube videos?

Over on Meta Stack Exchange, SQB asked Which sites have YouTube embedding on? Searching on Meta Code Golf, I was able to find an announcement post for embedded SoundCloud audio files, but found no mention of embedded YouTube videos. Additionally, YouTube embedding is not shown in the markdown pr...

support formatting

Business Cat

I could go over some basics

Mr. Xcoder

@NoahCristino Don't do both Jelly and CJam at the same time.

It will be painful.

Noah Cristino

@Mr.Xcoder why not

I'm decent with jelly now

Mr. Xcoder

@NoahCristino It will be painful

Noah Cristino

17:40

but stupid ascii

Mr. Xcoder

@NoahCristino As you wish, it's just a recommendation

Noah Cristino

I'll be fine @Mr.Xcoder

trichoplax

You'll end up accidentally designing a crossover and calling it CJelly

Noah Cristino

@Mr.Xcoder it's probably not as hard as learning portuguese and spanish at the same time

like half the words are the same

but some aren't

DJMcMayhem

@NoahCristino Brain-flak, 72 bytes: ([][()]){{}(({})<{({}[()]<(({})<>)<>>)}{}{}>)([][()])}{}{}<>{({}<>)<>}<>

Noah Cristino

17:41

@DJMcMayhem nice lol

Business Cat

@trichoplax cough that's kind of what Gaia is

Noah Cristino

@BusinessCat i'll request the cjam room

Cows quack

the permalink borked for me, it couldn't be decoded

DJMcMayhem

@Cowsquack Fixed!

Noah Cristino

where is the cJam room?

Business Cat

17:42

I honestly don't know

DJMcMayhem

I don't think there is one

Noah Cristino

lol there isn't

Sherlock9

Hello everyone

totallyhuman

class Command(onject)

Sherlock9

Long time no see

Noah Cristino

17:43

can I make one?

Business Cat

There used to be, afaik

totallyhuman

i cannot type for the life of me

Noah Cristino

@Sherlock9 hi

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 Heya!

How you been?

Sherlock9

July has been hell

Business Cat

17:43

@NoahCristino Sure go ahead

DJMcMayhem

That's too bad. Why so?

Sherlock9

This semester my group and I were tasked to make a game in Unity

That's it

Noah Cristino

♦ CJam

A room for learning, and anything CJam

come on in

Sherlock9

And make a game design document

Noah Cristino

@Sherlock9 I love unity

Sherlock9

17:44

But I'm the only programmer and I don't Unity

*don't know

Noah Cristino

@Sherlock9 ew gdd

DJMcMayhem

@NoahCristino Why gallery? I can't think of any possible advantages

Sherlock9

The game design document was not the bad part

Noah Cristino

@DJMcMayhem idk hyper learning jelly is

DJMcMayhem

Which I also disagree with FTR

totallyhuman

17:45

@DJMcMayhem for the record?

Sherlock9

Project manager took care of it, designer took care of most of the designs (not all, there wasn't time near the end)

DJMcMayhem

Yeah

There are very few good reasons to make a room gallery

totallyhuman

oh cool i'm never good at guessing acronyms

Sherlock9

But I got so overwhelmed from trying to learn Unity that fast, I panicked

I didn't know how to ask for help

Noah Cristino

how do I accept people to gallery?

Sherlock9

17:46

Notice I didn't try to ask anyone here for example

And Google was only mildly helpful

Multiplayer sucked ass and kept breaking

trichoplax

@DJMcMayhem Personally I prefer just kicking and moving messages, and reserve gallery status for if that gets out of hand.

Cows quack

Speaking of which, I should probably delete Unity on my device

Sherlock9

And I spent so much time plugging leaks in the multiplayer that almost every other feature in the queue got ignored until basically this last week

Long story short, the game sucks, and I'm surprised I don't hate Unity after this

Noah Cristino

I made a Unity game

Sherlock9

Tomorrow's the presentation and I'm just praying I don't get a C

Noah Cristino

17:47

it's on some website

Sherlock9

@NoahCristino You probably made something much simpler though

Noah Cristino

Not at all

multiplayer fps

Sherlock9

We tried to implement multiplayer, AI, animations, all at once

Noah Cristino

with spheracal planets

Sherlock9

okay fair enough

Noah Cristino

17:48

and ai

all by my self lol

Sherlock9

how the hell are you still sane? My brain is fried from the stress and avoidance tactics due to said stress

Noah Cristino

I did it all at once

9 hours straight

Step Hen

@NoahCristino ... did you have anyone try to break it?

Noah Cristino

I broke it my self lol

then fixed

no one downloaded

but I got a lot of views

Sherlock9

One of these days I really need to run through a proper tutorial and learn how Unity actually works

Noah Cristino

17:50

I posted on some indie site and on redit

Sherlock9

Rather than try to work it out piecemeal

Noah Cristino

@Sherlock9 It's not that hard

I just guessed until it worked

Sherlock9

Which is why I was beating myself up about it

It's supposed to be easy

But I couldn't make heads or tails of it

Step Hen

It's "just" 3D modeling and C# scripts right?

Sherlock9

Yes

Noah Cristino

17:50

and stupid animation

and lighting

and Boo

@StepHen you can use javascript too

DJMcMayhem

Eww

Cows quack

but the tutorial is in C# IIRC

Noah Cristino

@DJMcMayhem ?

Step Hen

@NoahCristino well if you're doing anything at all largeish JavaScript's lack of OOP will ruin you

Socratic Phoenix

@Sherlock9 don't feel bad, the only game I've ever made was a square that could walk up and down a road.... it wasn't very fun

DJMcMayhem

17:52

@NoahCristino JS == eww

Step Hen

I've got an Android app somewhere I wrote with a friend, we really should have used Unity though

Noah Cristino

ya I use c#

Step Hen

because we wrote our own physics engine and that was most of our time

Noah Cristino

I just use javascript for making webbots

Wheat Wizard

Can you still use Boo in unity?

Its been a while

Noah Cristino

17:53

yea

except there is literally no documentation

Wheat Wizard

Yeah thats always been the problem with Boo.

Step Hen

Yay bugs, spent 10 minutes debugging because js compare != js_compare

Sherlock9

@SocraticPhoenix Condolences

At some point I really do need to learn Unity properly though

totallyhuman

@StepHen wat

♦ CJam

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