Anybody used to program in BASIC?

also guys quick produce about 1920 challenges so we can hit 10k challenges

i can't math

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@ZacharyT I did, but it is like 15 years ago.

The update checking is taking longer than the downloading.

Variant?

@ZacharyT ⍠

Is VB.NET anything like "classic" basic?

qbasic

No, the closest equivalent to Basic I've found is Chipmunk basic.

what just happened to my keyboard >_>

good question

VB.NET to Darthmouth BASIC is like JavaScript to Java

is it a question you have a good answer to?

@ZacharyT help.dyalog.com/16.0/Content/Language/Primitive%20Operators/…

Is it theoretically possible to close two questions as duplicates of each other?

Sorry, I was asking what variant of BASIC you programmed in.

i think ಠ should be a valid command in my language

and also have _ do something

I might add that when I do the code page (FF)

then ಠ_ಠ would be valid code ಠ_ಠ

brb making a brainfuck derivative that uses text faces

@HyperNeutrino Doesn't closing them mean you can't put answers on either of them, though? That's like saying they are the same, but that you don't like either of them

I think the text-face language is done already (not a BF derivative)

@StephenS I know. It's completely stupid, but I'm just wondering if that's possible.

@totallyhuman esolangs.org/wiki/(_%CD%A1%C2%B0_%CD%9C%CA%96_%CD%A1%C2%B0)fuck

Does anyone here know Perl6?

@BusinessCat heh nice

Every idea is taken

mm

Not my newest idea, afaik

I'm not sure my current coding structure idea is taken yet though.

which one?

I don't think OSV-style has been taken, either.

ASCII skyscrapers of different heights with different patterns on them

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I can't tell you :P But no actually I can, pretty much on each command the stack is remembered, and you can move your pointer to different spots in the stack, and commands will look back in the stack history for more objects if it needs them.

I haven't gotten around to implementing it yet because I have to answer this first :P

also turns out that hexagony's memory is also hexagons

@ZacharyT If you really want ideas, just take an existing language and make a transpiler that changes the syntax or code page

so my "original" idea wasn't so original

@ZacharyT Especially if said existing language happens to acronymize to BF

I've attempted a transpiler that sort of changes the syntax of Ruby. (That was awful)

goat got off of bird?

@ZacharyT If you do a language that's not single byte tokens or that has comments you have to write a tokenizer though

@ZacharyT If you do a BF derivative you can just read chars

Or just use some very simple regex rules.

tokenizers are usually the way to go

OK, can someone give me an actually decent name for "Remove Spaces, Maintaining Capitalization"

Or just use PHP7's regex.

Named. Capture. Groups.

@StephenS Supprimer les espaces, maintenir la majuscule

Into out-of-space's capital? I'm not good with names.

@ZacharyT i thought that's there in a lot of regex flavors

Name me some, I'm curious if I can use a language that's NOT php for something like that.

I guess RemovesPaces,mAintainingcaPitalization will have to do

@ZacharyT regular-expressions.info/named.html

Oh, wow, capitalization kept by indeces.

Does PHP allow (infinite) recursion of references to capture groups?

(i.e. \1 references \2 and \2 references \1 or something)

../win/tty/termcap.c:839:13: error: conflicting types for 'tparm'
extern char tparm();
            ^
/usr/include/curses.h:802:31: note: previous declaration is here
extern NCURSES_EXPORT(char *) tparm (NCURSES_CONST char *, ...);

what's wrong with those 2 bits?

they look like the same type for tparm to me

@ZacharyT yea but don't match anything

making the first one extern (char *) tparm(); does not seem to work

Oh god, curses.

yes

Why not ncurse

doesn't seem to be supported to use anything else

this is for ttys obviously, not for guis

Does it have to do with the varargs?

Ncurse does thing in tty

@ZacharyT uh

how do I check that?

I'm not good at C >_>

I'm just trying to compile something

@Riker try use maybe like Linux VM

Neither am I. (Don't try interfacing with D for Curses/Ncurses ... ugh)

@Downgoat this is a mac isnt' the compiler the same

Um ... does Downgoat normally talk like this?

yes

Seriously?

it's called gaotspek

yes

@ZacharyT no, Actually

My memory must be wrong then. For some reason I remember him not speaking in "gaotspek" at one time.

@StephenS Was that intended as a pun? Or a legit response?

@ZacharyT A pun

<insert look of disapproval>

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You should install the chat commands tacoscript

You can insert it automatically by typing /o_o

Or just control-f _, that should work.

While you're at it, Alt-F4

@ZacharyT The TacoScripts are better.

While you're at it, hold the power button for about 5 seconds.

@Mego chat.stackexchange.com/…

@Phoenix He didn't say "don't be obnoxious", he said "don't encourage others to be obnoxious"

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@Mego apparently you once thought Game Dev wasn't worth it

What I'm wondering is why this wasn't nuked.

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@HyperNeutrino If it's new (and interestingish), it's not spam

I would disagree. (No example unfortunately)

@HyperNeutrino If you do it twice it's no longer new :P

:P

@totallyhuman

What's the standard icon for generic sharing?

@Mego ah, I agree then

Do you consider this clever?

It got a ton of upvotes

And it is extremely trivial.

that good enough?

@Mego Ok.

@Mego since you seem to know C, any clue about this?

I think your'e the only person in here atm who is both active and knows C

@Mr.Xcoder 10 is not a ton.

It is for me

this more appealing or less?

It's more than I usually get ;_;

My best answer here got 12.

@Riker What happened to MDXF?

@Mego what's the diff though?

@StephenS The former was better

@StephenS idk

@Mego Cool thanks :)

@Mr.Xcoder My best answer is at +18, and it was the most copy and paste answer you've ever seen, with a language that I don't even know how works

I know the voting system is slightly screwed up

MDXF got a work promotion so he went inactive on PPCG to focus on work.

@StephenS Trivial answers always get lots of ups.

@Mr.Xcoder Fast helps too though

@StephenS That's true.

@Mego o

@StephenS Yes, Usually the first answer in a highly used langauge/ Jelly or 05AB1E get a lot.

Speaking of fast, I'd like more feedback on my FGITW sandbox: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/13131/65836

@Mego is there any way to fix it other than editing the macro?

but the appreciation for an answer that uses something cleverly definitely feels different

mm I saw

i really don't think there's a way to fix the problem though

@HyperNeutrino #chat effect for downvotes xD

@Mego :O that works!

thanks!

I've been trying forever to get this and a couple other bugs

lol

(Ninja'd again)

how does a penguin live in texas

@StephenS >.<

@HyperNeutrino I put a question into chat, asking whether it was too trivial and why it had extra downvotes, got like 10 downvotes in 10 minutes or so

@Mego Texas really is the Texas of the US.

Well this is a meta post so I don't care about votes; it just gives me a concensus more or less.

note to whoever starred the two texas messages: you starred them in the wrong order

@HyperNeutrino I think this subject is over-discussed. criticizing the voting system is useless; the problem is the yearn for rep itself. people are not feeling OK to get just a 3 votes; they want a mega voting spree, bounties, to get up as fast as they can. and even if the system will change, someone else would whine about their post getting lower on the answers although it has many votes, only because it's old

@totallyhuman They were also different people.

welp that sucks

@HyperNeutrino Ninja'd again

@totallyhuman I assure you that two different people done this

@totallyhuman its called typing on phone in subway is hard

@Uriel No, the problem is the reward for effort. Hard questions on hard answers don't get you reward, because the buzz is gone

@Riker wait what then why say ../win

win = windows?

@Uriel Hard, cool challenges get lots of upvotes. However, they don't get lots of answers, so they don't show up on HNQ. Therefore, when they get an answer that someone put 2 hours into, no one sees it

HNQ?

@Uriel There are so many challenges sitting around with 20+ upvotes but their answer(s) have ~3

@Mr.Xcoder Hot Network Questions

@StephenS these kind of argument are good for SO, where 10 reppers like to steal your answers, write them with shitty english and get your votes. this one is for choosing cool problems for fun

@Downgoat I knew he didn't normally talk like that.

@Adám Ah. Thanks

What do you think of a (Main of course) challenge to convert ASCII art to line drawing art?

@StephenS I usually review the active queue when coming to answer stuff. that said, I must admit I reached this site after seeing some HNQ

@Uriel I'm not necessarily complaining about the voting system; I think the voting system isn't really the biggest problem, and neither are peoples' voting habits. The problem I guess isn't that trivial answers get too many votes, but that harder answers don't get enough upvotes. That's why I'm proposing my idea; its purpose isn't to solve the voting issue (which isn't even an issue enough to be solveable), but rather to incentivise and reward longer, more clever, and less trivial answers.

Does charcoal have an advantage?

@Adám line drawing art (?)

--------. --------. ---
| .---. | | .---. | | |
| |   | | | |   | | | |
| '---' | | '---' | | |
| .---. | | .-----' | |
| |   | | | |       | |
| |   | | | |       | '-----|
---   --- ---       --------'

to APL

┬───────┐ ┬───────┐ ┬─┬
│ ┌───┐ │ │ ┌───┐ │ │ │
│ │   │ │ │ │   │ │ │ │
│ └───┘ │ │ └───┘ │ │ │
│ ┌───┐ │ │ ┌─────┘ │ │
│ │   │ │ │ │       │ │
│ │   │ │ │ │       │ └─────┤
┴─┴   ┴─┴ ┴─┴       ┴───────┘

looks confusing but interesting

oh gotcha, that'd be cool

Just Unicode replacement, right?

I would like that

@HyperNeutrino I think 73% of voting problems could be solved by requiring 111 points w/ assoc bonus for upvote

the corners would be the hard part