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Q: Is there a tag for "true" language only challenges?

Weckar E.In other words, challenges for which the specifically-developed golfing languages will not be accepted? Are there even tags for language-specific challenges?

@NewMetaPosts That was posted 2 hours ago and it's just showing up now?
@BusinessCat I read that as 2 years ago...
Okx
Okx
@EriktheOutgolfer how did you do that?
well, they both ends in rs, u looks somewhat like a, o looks somewhat like e...
13:41
@Mr.Xcoder Does the processing.js websites top bar of circles work?
@dzaima I get the following error: "Unexpected keyword 'function()" on line 56: "async function runClicked()"
hmm
@dzaima Yes, processing.js works
@dzaima The strangest error I have ever encountered so far...
Okx
Okx
I think that may be because your browser doesn't support the async keyword, but I've never worked with processing.js
@Okx Safari does not support async ?
Don't think so....
@dzaima Yes
why is that async anyway
well you might need to update some stuff sometime :P
13:44
gonna push with that async removed
@Mr.Xcoder try again
@dzaima just a second, please
@dzaima It works perfectly now
good
I guess I was trying to implement a stop button but couldn't figure out how :p
@dzaima Better leave it as-is :))
@HyperNeutrino Declare map?
13:55
@Mr.Xcoder ±0 bytes :(
Because mapmapmap->mmm saves 6 bytes but m=map\m takes 6 bytes.
@HyperNeutrino Yes, didn't test
got 1 byte off :P
@HyperNeutrino Can you please add a tio link?
It doesn't seem to work for me....
@HyperNeutrino Ooh, sorry
works fine
13:58
@Mr.Xcoder Done.
Declared ''.join instead
Oh nice, thanks!
14:19
Hey, can anyone check over this to see if it's ready for main:
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Beta DecayBurning Bridges code-golf graph-theory Introduction You are on a network of islands which are connected by wooden bridges and you want to see if you can burn every bridge in the island network. However, you can only burn a bridge once you've walked over it. Once a bridge has been burned, it h...

@BetaDecay I personally think it looks ready. +1 :)
@Mr.Xcoder I love how print'\n'.join(map(''.join,sum([[sum([f[i*3:i*3+3]for i in j],[])for f in map(list,['..............\\/...|./../...|...\\..\\............','.........---.......|‌​........|.......---.........','...\\..../......../.|........|.\\........../\\.....'])]‌​for j in input()],[]))) is shorter than my earlier golfy solution ಠ_ಠ
Alright, I'll bite the bullet
What does that even mean? xD
Go for it :D
Ah ok :D
lol I just edited my answer about 5 times in about 2 minutes xD
@BetaDecay The term "bridge" bothers me in this case because in graph theory "bridge" has its own meaning :P
14:31
Hm. Edge seems a bit too pure though
Yeah :P
I assume most people here aren't pure mathematicians and most people might not know what bridges are in graph theory.
I could be wrong though :P
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Q: Trim the array!

OkxGiven an integer array and two numbers as input, remove a certain amount of the first and last elements, specified by the numbers. The input can be in any order you want. You should remove the first x elements, where x is the first numerical input, and also remove the last y elements, where y is...

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Q: Burning Bridges

Beta DecayIntroduction You are on a network of islands which are connected by wooden bridges and you want to see if you can burn every bridge in the island network. However, you can only burn a bridge once you've walked over it. Once a bridge has been burned, it has gone and you cannot go back over it. N...

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Q: Need help to decide analytics technique to use for a categorical outcome variable with 35 different categories

adiI am currently dealing with an analytics problem. The data consists of historical information of households and products used by them over the period of two decades. I have outcome variable as product segment which is defined by a a specific segment code.It is denoted by A-Z and 0-9. (Total 35...

@HyperNeutrino What is a bridge?
2
Okx
Okx
3 questions in a row :O
@BetaDecay It's an edge that when removed, will cause at least two nodes to become fully disconnected.
Also, you have some comments. Sorry, I missed a few things when looking at it in sandbox.
Okx
Okx
14:36
@EriktheOutgolfer would you mind joining the Neim chatroom?
@HelkaHomba I'll admit, I wouldn't be watching your AA series if not for the challenges :)
I just received a notice back from the SE team; unfortunately, the votes that I cast as 42649 are permanently deleted and cannot be merged with 68942, so unfortunately the lost rep will not be refunded to anyone :(
so you got your rep back, but we dont?
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I demand my 49 rep back :(
@Mayube brb, serially upvoting everyone so I can get my account suspended
14:43
brb, serially starring everyone so I can get my account 11'd
actually that's not funny
What's a eulerian path? (cc @BetaDecay)
Fun fact: The question is not asking for whether or not there's a eulerian path.
@HyperNeutrino It's a path which goes around a network passing along every edge only once
In graph theory, an Eulerian trail (or Eulerian path) is a trail in a finite graph which visits every edge exactly once. Similarly, an Eulerian circuit or Eulerian cycle is an Eulerian trail which starts and ends on the same vertex. They were first discussed by Leonhard Euler while solving the famous Seven Bridges of Königsberg problem in 1736. The problem can be stated mathematically like this: Given the graph in the image, is it possible to construct a path (or a cycle, i.e. a path starting and ending on the same vertex) which visits each edge exactly once? Euler proved that a necessary condition...
Ah, thanks.
Yeah, so no, that's not the same as the question.
Is it not?
14:50
Take 1,2 1,3 1,4 1,5 for example
You can walk from 1 to 2 then back and burn, 1 to 3 then back and burn, etc.
You have to burn every bridge you walk over
Immediately after?
@HyperNeutrino It's OK, thanks to the 15 rep I lost from you I'm at 1976 instead of 2001, so Sandbox is still readable
@StephenS Ah :P
@BetaDecay In that case then I'll go delete my comments. :P
14:57
@HyperNeutrino I guess you're burning those comments immediately after :D
Is there anything we can get from SE for consistently having lots of top HNQs, besides a change in the HNQ algorithm?
@StephenS Respeck
@StephenS including puzzling too?
hopefully
14:59
Hmm
@StephenS I think not having the HNQ algorithm corrected is reward enough...
like, the two sites that aren't q&as
The cube ASCII art would've been less hardcoding if it were a bigger cube i think
@EriktheOutgolfer We usually have more higher than puzzling, currently 4 PPCG on first page, and no Puzzling
@trichoplax no I think it's a bit harmful...a swarm of answers goes into a trivial challenge so it ends up at hnq then many unknowing users would just upvote the challenge without thinking much or something like that
15:01
imo HNQ should focus on bringing attention to unanswered questions that have received a lot of votes
@EriktheOutgolfer Is a "trivial" challenge like this really harmful though?
especially fitting with the Q&A style of every SE but 2
@StephenS not what I was referring to...trivial challenges like add two numbers or such
of course they don't deserve the downvotes either from a perspective
@EriktheOutgolfer I agree that can be a problem, but reducing the number of challenges that can appear on HNQ would probably exclude the less trivial challenges, leaving the trivial ones still there to be overvoted. I don't see an obvious solution to this.
First of all, how are hotness points decided? Does anyone know?
15:03
well symmetry is a naturally sought after trait that usually contributes to hotness
oh you were talking about questions
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A: How do the "arbitrary hotness points" work on the new Stack Exchange home page?

David FullertonBasically what's documented here: What formula should be used to determine "hot" questions? We have a few tweaks: Succeeding questions from the same site are penalized by increasing amounts. So, the first question from SO in the list gets multiplied by 1.0, the second by 0.98, the third ...

Wait a second
@Mayube ಠ_ಠ
I literally just realized it was the Steam Summer Sale and impulse-bought Elite: Dangerous
@HyperNeutrino What's amazing is that they increasingly deduct points for each question from the same stack, so even with that deduction we still top the leaderboard
15:03
Better be worth the $15
@LegionMammal978 space is big, and empty
have fun
> We make a per-site traffic adjustment so SO does not dominate the entire list
lol true
I wonder if SE are hiring
@HyperNeutrino oh so that's who those votes were
15:04
@Riker Yes, lost rep at around June 20 or so would be me.
They should hire twitch chat TNB to rewrite their hotness algorithm
@Mayube s/are/is/
no
that would either end up horrible, no final product, or the same thing
wut
It's not showing up in my Steam library
@HyperNeutrino s/\//☃/g
15:06
I think they should divide the answer score by the answer count, so having a sudden influx of answers that are all not voted very high could be a sign of a trivial challenge.
ima try and reboot to windows
@Mayube wat on earth
graphics card runs better on it anyway
☃ is the superior sed character
15:07
@HyperNeutrino ha, well, my questions get on HNQ if I upvote all the answers, and they don't if I'm out of upvotes, so that's kind of there
why do s/are/is/ when you can do s☃are☃is☃
@StephenS I'm aware of slashes
but snowman is clearly superior
> @HyperNeutrino It's OK, thanks to the 15 rep I lost from you I'm at 1976 instead of 2001, so Sandbox is still readable

I obviously know how to math, holy crap what was I thinking
Hey what should I know before making a custom code page?
15:10
Oh wait math
I didn't even notice that lol
2001 - 1976 = 15, obviously.
@HyperNeutrino how do you quote previous chats lol
> content
Doesn't work with multiline messages
wait it does?
> that's
weird
@StephenS for previous chat messages, you can just link it
May 26 at 0:57, by user165474
like so:
:P
@totallyhuman thanks :)
15:14
:O Idea: .. and ... for JS
Question: should output generator or array?
Generator so you can do [1..infinity]
and what should happen if you pass NaN
what about 0 and -0
do we allow reverse iteration 10..0
you should
15:15
[0..-0]
Also: What is another name for range because Range is already taken so can't use
IntegerRange?
:| seem kind of unweildy
NumSpan?
NumsPan?
15:16
CMC: Given a string of text in all lowercase, output a block of text with each line having the next character uppercased.
Idea: NumericRange
Since all number in JS are float
s = "abcd"

Abcd
aBcd
abCd
abcD
oh
that would work too then
lambda s:[s[:n]+s[n].upper()+s[n+1:]for n in range(len(s))]
@HyperNeutrino
15:20
image won't display; school wifi
it's monospace for me
@totallyhuman nice
@dzaima oh hm. lemme go check the source code
@HyperNeutrino Nice ? It sucks >.>
imma add more monospace fonts
Oh you should do font-family: Consolas, monospace;
15:21
yeah
In case the user doesn't have Consolas
pushing
like me
ok
@totallyhuman works though and i can't figure out how to golf it. then again i suck at python golfing :P
Argh, it's taking forever to download
pushed
15:23
@Downgoat I fixifixixfiy, plz accept PR
Ah, much better. Thanks! :)
> This branch is out-of-date with the base branch
you need to remege from developp
@Downgoat But I'm not on my Linux drive
You do it
Is anyone here good at web design?
(like CSS etc, not framework)
15:25
@HyperNeutrino Define good, I'm decent at CSS but I'm not good at making it look nice (aka being creative)
Oh. That's what I meant; making websites look nice.
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A: Trim the array!

CensoredUsernameRust, 29 bytes |n,i,j|&n[i..<[_]>::len(n)-j] Call it as follows: let a = &[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]; let f = |n,i,j|&n[i..<[_]>::len(n)-j]; f(a, 2, 1) I had a lot of fun fighting with the borrow checker figuring out what the shortest approach was in order to have it infer the lifetime of a returne...

Golfing in rust: crimes against readability to get the compiler to infer lifetimes over closures
@HyperNeutrino I could probably make something look like a mockup but I couldn't design the mockup, so no, sorry
Ah okay. I wanted to see if I could make this look better :P
Jim
Jim
@HyperNeutrino Pyth, 8 bytes: .eXQkrb1
With quoted input
15:27
oo nice
my freaking phone cord, always disconnects while I'm debugging an app
Any builtin / golfy way to do unary minus in CJam?
@HyperNeutrino looks fine, you might want to push the contact info a little more towards the center, but once you start filling the whitespace IMO it'll be good enough
@HyperNeutrino Are you looking for creative suggestions, or technical advice on how to get the creative idea you already have in mind?
@trichoplax Creative suggestions. I don't have any creative ideas :P
@StephenS yay thx. But yeah, I don't plan on adding anything more to the contact info section though. Should I add stuff?
15:30
@HyperNeutrino Jelly, 10 bytes: J;€⁸ŒuḢ¦€Y
Ah. Nice.
@HyperNeutrino #1: Use normal font not monospace pls
Jim
Jim
@EriktheOutgolfer For once I beat a Jelly answer with Pyth
@HyperNeutrino brb, lemme look around at other contact pages
@Jim it happens
15:31
@Downgoat like what for example. lol i like monospace too much
System fonts would be good but if you want a webfont any sans serif w/ 300 weight would be fine
@Downgoat @HyperNeutrino or at least vary it up, you're usually suggested to use ~2 fonts, one for headings and one for body, plus maybe one for big titles
How about Roboto Mono for header and Open Sans for body?
@HyperNeutrino I think simple is good - less distraction from the content.
Ah okay. I'm trying to mostly get inspiration from Google Material Design because it looks nice to me :P
15:34
I'm free!
@HyperNeutrino Would strongly recomend normal Roboto and use like 300 or lighter font-weight
How about now? (you may need to manually refresh the stylesheet)
@muddyfish from what?
How pricy were you before
exams?
:P
If you want to go for code look switch to a lighter background imho (or if dark theme use less constrasting color)
15:34
Exams
ooo me tooooo
@Downgoat will try that thanks
As of 30 minutes ago
herp derp here I am homeschooled and finished a month ago
@muddyfish lol I was free from exams as of 2 hours ago
Heh. More like an hour ago for me actually
Now I've got to decide what to do
15:37
@muddyfish write a programming language, while you still have time
I've already written one and partway through another
Jim
Jim
CMC: Write a program which takes a timestamp and outputs "I'm free!" if the timestamp is after today 2pm UTC. Otherwise output nothing
Okx
Okx
but it's past 4 pm
Hard part would be timezone probably
Okx
Okx
15:39
timezones are great
Jim
Jim
1498491539 => "I'm free!"
1498471235 => ""
@Okx UTC
Okx
Okx
ah
still past 2pm anyway
It's almost noon for me lol
I'm probably going to end up writing a mod for a game I like
^^
EDT here
15:41
@Jim JS t=>t>1498485600?"I'm free!":""
@Downgoat ?
@Jim Summer holiday coming up?
I'm going to post this now, any last thoughts?
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Wheat WizardMacGyver's Toolbox In this question each answer will get a "toolbox" that can be used to construct a program/function. The toolbox will consist of two things: a list of programming languages a list of valid characters You must write a valid program/function in one of the languages provided ...

@LegionMammal978 same :P
Jim
Jim
@Okx Let's keep 2pm for @muddyfish which finished "an hour ago"
15:42
@Jim what is the timestamp for 2pm?
8 mins ago, by muddyfish
I'm free!
Jim
Jim
@EriktheOutgolfer The timestamp is 1498485600
> purchase as a gift
> purchase for myself
gee thanks for the guilt trip steam
I'm going to not have to do anything for 3 weeks and then I'm have a summer job for 2 months and then I'll be at uni
15:43
print'I'm free!'
Okx
Okx
@Jim Neim, 20 bytes: ([_ℚΨ)𝔾Ξ(I'm free!)B
Boom :P
@muddyfish what's the summer job?
Bioinformatics. Same as last year
@muddyfish o cool
Jim
Jim
15:44
@StephenS Nice
I miss having summers off
@totallyhuman Syntax Errors.
Jim
Jim
@Okx I didn't even know that language
Coincidentally, I handed in my Master's thesis 4 years ago today!
Jim
Jim
@StewieGriffin Actually no. I'm no student, but probably won't take holidays this summer
15:46
ooo
@HyperNeutrino Okay reccomendation are: change header font to 'Source Code Pro' (on google font) font-weight: 300, letter-spacing: -1px, increase margin to 1em. body background to #354851. toolbar background to rgba(0,0,0,0.45). Lower the text and you can remove the background styling but if oyu want background i would recomend background: rgba(255,255,255,0.1);
@HyperNeutrino >.>
Okx
Okx
@Jim Neim's a language that I made specifically for integer manipulation. It doesn't do particularly well with strings. ([_ℚΨ) is a compressed version of 1498485600.
what an unimportant day for a coincidence...
@StewieGriffin I guess the month you spent working on your thesis while a member of PPCG SO didn't taint your thesis too much
15:46
@StewieGriffin congrats!
very belated
@HyperNeutrino yea that's a pretty ugly wobsite, no offense. it has no goats, and the blue is a bit clashy
Jim
Jim
@Okx That's quite useful in this case. It's too bad it isn't optimized for strings too
@StewieGriffin congrats! was it on the advance fighter jet/mind control device/weather control device/teleporter/robot/clone/time machine/multiverse transport/weapons? :O
> I do this by combining MATLAB and skills I acquired while doing my MSc. in Electrical Engineering.
Jim
Jim
@Downgoat I think you forgot omnipotence
Okx
Okx
@Jim Printing strings in Neim is actually quite hacky. (I'm free) decompresses the string I'm free! from base 255 to base 10, and then B converts it to base 255
15:49
@StephenS brb learning matlab
@StephenS It helped me a lot...
@Riker Thanks :)
Jim
Jim
@Okx Not sure if I understand, what's the point of decompressing from base 255 to recompress it afterwards to base 255?
Okx
Okx
because there isn't a better way to print non-numbers :P
just spent 20 minutes helping my boss who was having trouble pushing into an empty git repo only to find out he was trying to push empty directories ._.
15:51
@Downgoat No, I made those later... :)
Jim
Jim
@Okx Alright, I got it now, but then couldn't you compress the string with numbers?
@DOwngoat Thanks for suggestions. Also, what should the buttons' colors become with :hover and :active?
Okx
Okx
@jim no, because we only have 10 digits to work with
CMC: Print the sequence alternating between two integer inputs; I may or may not be biased: cQuents, 3 bytes, A,B
example?
15:52
yeah you can't do multiline markdown
Jim
Jim
@Okx That's right. Then compress the ten most used letters :p
your link is broken Stephen
I know I know
@HyperNeutrino you can just darken them a little bit perhaps rgba(0,0,0,0.6) and then active being rgba(0,0,0,0.5) or something similar
Example: 6, 4 ->
6,4,6,4,6,4,6,4,6,4, ...
15:53
you could also use rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5) to brighten
Jim
Jim
@EriktheOutgolfer This time I can't beat that with Pyth
Hm. I find 0.5 a bit too bright; I went with 0.2 and 0.3.
Hold on, deploying
@Jim well, that's because pyth doesn't have compressed numbers or strings. ;)
Heh, our latest newsletter quotes hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com
15:54
oh also recomend remove the <HR> because you have navbar acting as seperator
oh yeah true
@Downgoat seconded
TFW you're too fast for the toolbox
@HyperNeutrino might want a footer of sorts, it'll help with the top-heavy appearance
15:55
@EriktheOutgolfer is that bad?
Jim
Jim
@EriktheOutgolfer That's not too bad generally speaking. I find other things missing or real long to do with Pyth more annoying
I removed the list intentionally btw
@StephenS Maybe; I will add that later, thanks.
@Jim well, black text isn't very visible
for the text box maybe add color: #FFFFFFCC; padding: 0.8em 1.6em;
I gtg now though, my mom's here to pick me up from the school. Cy'all later and thanks for suggestions!
15:56
bai .o/
Wow, Steam was right, Elite does take 2 hours to download
@LegionMammal978 it's a space MMO, what do you expect?
@LegionMammal978 inb4 Microsoft buys Steam, screws up Steam download times
15:58
@StephenS It was saying 3 hours about 15 minutes ago
@totallyhuman I made a mistake with the toolbox. 3var is in the toolbox
@StephenS Hehe, my language can also do it in 3 bytes (several ways): òäj or ò2ä or ò2Ä
Or even òäG if you want exponential output
@DJMcMayhem exponential?
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Q: Index of the row with most non-zero elements

Stewie GriffinThis is a simple one: Take a matrix of integers as input, and output the index of the row with the most non-zero elements. You may assume that there will only be one row with the most non-zero elements. Test cases: These are 1-indexed, you may choose if you want 0 or 1-indexed. 1 0 row = 1 ---...

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Q: MacGyver's Second Toolbox

Wheat WizardIn this question each answer will get a "toolbox" that can be used to construct a program/function. The toolbox will consist of two things: a list of programming languages a list of valid characters You must write a valid program/function in one of the languages provided using only the chara...

Yeah, so it'll output 6, 4, and then 6, 4, 6, 4 and then 6, 4, 6, 4, 6, 4, 6, 4 and so on to infinity
16:03
@DJMcMayhem ah, gotcha
oh the irony: W3s own website is having infinite redirection errors >_<
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@totallyhuman Turns out I made two mistakes, 3var is not in the toolbox.
Okie dokie lol
Question: what is a 'superseded ephemeron table' O_o
Does anyone know str, or Oasis?
nevermind
16:16
I realized after posting that just ! works instead of n!
Editing in answer chaining is frowned upon though right
I would leave it
I think str is the only language that might work right now. And I can't find any documentation on it.
Jim
Jim
Where does "The Nineteenth Byte" come from?
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A: Let's think of a creative name for our chatroom

dmckeeWell, the traditional generic name for the country club bar is "the nineteenth hole", which suggests The Nineteenth Byte or something like that.

Jim
Jim
@Downgoat I miss the reference "generic name for the country club bar". Is that a phrase in English speaking countries?
It's a golfing term
(golfing as hitting a ball with a club, not hitting keyboard buttons with your fingers)
Okx
Okx
16:26
In golf, the nineteenth hole is a slang term for a pub, bar, or restaurant on or near the golf course, very often the clubhouse itself. A standard round of golf has only eighteen holes, so golfers will say they are at the 'nineteenth hole', meaning they are enjoying a drink after the game. The concept is similar to Après-ski in skiing. The 19th hole on miniature golf courses is often a hole in which if a hole-in-one is scored, one receives a free game. == References in media == The golf stories of author P. G. Wodehouse, which are narrated by his character, the Oldest Member, discuss the nineteenth...
It's also nineteen bytes long, so that's kinda cool
Jim
Jim
Oooh okay, I missed the fact that "club" referred to Golf (the sport)
> I'm hoping we're nearing the end of beta soon
> '14
lol
condit seems to be extremely slow in TIO
16:42
@totallyhuman From esolangs: "Then execution starts from the top of the program again"
in any case condit's too verbose for the toolbox right now
would totally do brain-flak but the toolbox only has ) and not ( >_>
i don't like the odds of another answer coming in <_<
@totallyhuman Come on. This is PPCG, we don't know the word impossible. I bet you could totally make a brain-flak answer without ( :P
Okx
Okx
CMC: Determine if a number is highly-composite or anti-prime (a number is highly composite if it has more divisors than any number less than itself)

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