The Nineteenth Byte

Ayoungcoder

3:05 PM

i swear, was my question codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/120052/… in the suggestion list for a second!

yes it was lol, my first question was the most popular at this moment

Riker

most popular where?

Stewie Griffin

Wohoo! It's official, I'm hysterically funny!

Anonymous

@PhiNotPi It depends on how heavy their sprite sheets are

Christopher

@StewieGriffin Congratz

@SIGSEGV I submit a zero byte answer... Windows XP.

Riker

3:20 PM

0 bytes! Windows XP — Christopher 4 mins ago

this is sad but true

@EriktheOutgolfer up for me?

loads instantly

Erik the Outgolfer

not when I posted that message though

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Q: Year progress bar

Create a progress bar indicating year progress Your code has to output the percentage of the year already passed form 1st of January of the current year. You have to display a progress bar and the figure. Each day has to display a different bar besides rounded figure is the same as previous da...

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Q: Solve this uHerbert challenge (preferably in H) in 13 or less bytes

First, a little background info: Herbert is a robot simulation which I first encountered in the online IGF (Independent Games Festival) programming challenge back in 2008. For a long time, I was disappointed that I couldn't try out the challenges after the actual contest was over. Luckily, someon...

atomic-code-golf simulation

Okx

May I have some feedback on this challenge in the sandbox?

Christopher

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Weapons

Proposed Q&A site for weapon experts and enthusiasts to ask Questions and get Answers about any type of weapon, from ancient edged weapons and archery to guns and modern tactical or strategic military systems.

Currently in definition.

We need some more users.

Just a few upvotes more and into commit

Kritixi Lithos

Isn't that a bot that proposed that site?

Okx

3:36 PM

@KritixiLithos I don't think so.

Christopher

@ais523 You going to give the bounty soon?

Okx

Wait, I just noticed that my sandbox proposal has ID 12345. Whoa.

Mayube

hmm, jsfiddle's css seems a little broken

oh nvm

ais523

3:55 PM

@Christopher it hasn't expired yet, and for this sort of bounty, I don't want to discriminate against people who spent all week working on a solution and got it in just at the last minute

in general, for any sort of bounty other than "reward existing answer", I wait until the grace period until I award it

(bounties last 7 days from the point of view of the user interface, but actually 8 from the point of view of awarding reputation; for the last 24 hours the bounty doesn't promote the post and isn't shown on the post but it can still be awarded)

Dennis

@StewieGriffin I made a mistake and upvoted your answer after reading the big NO!, then got distracted and didn't continue reading. Your answer seems to suggest that actively hunting for vote-worthy posts of a single user is allowed, so I made a dummy edit to reverse my vote, then reverted the dummy edit. Since this got fixed, that shows [Edit removed during grace period] in the revision history.

ais523

somehow, I think the "you cannot change your vote unless the post is edited" feature is leading to unintentional consequences

I've edited my own posts at other users' requests before now because they misclicked the downvote button and didn't notice until it was too late to change

Dennis

It's intended to prevent strategic voting on main, but I don't think it has any merit on meta.

ais523

btw, as to the more general question (i.e. upvoting to test submissions or the like); is it acceptable to change the timing of your upvotes?

i.e. there's a post you'd upvote anyway, but you delay upvoting it until the next day

I may have been guilty of saving up all my question votes for several weeks so that I could use them all in the same day to get a badge

hey, people who voted to close this question, what was the reason? I'm not sure whether to cast a reopen vote because I don't know what the problem was to know if it's fixed now

Riker

4:30 PM

^

ais523

@Emigna: @BusinessCat: ^

Riker

I'm voting to reopen

Emigna

@ais523 Hmm?

ais523

at least with the bear challenge (which eventually stalled out at 4 reopens and 3 failed reopen reviews), it's at least clear what the controversy is

Business Cat

Why am I being pinged

Riker

4:32 PM

showerthought: @flawr and @SimplyBeautifulArt both entered the room at the same time. Both of them like math. Both of them are good at math. Flawr and SBA are the same person. HL3 confirmed

ais523

@BusinessCat "keep closed" vote on a reopen review, we don't understand what was behind it

and want to know the problem so that it can be fixed

flawr

@Riker yep, HL3 confirmed

Simply Beautiful Art

xD

Riker

both responded to my message

hl3 really confirmed

huh, I thought wheat had codegolf gold

apparently he's only halfway there

ais523

@Emigna why did you vote to keep-closed the uHerbert challenge? there are plenty of people who are confused by the basis behind the close votes

and we'd like to know so that it can be fixed

in general, I'm leery of casting a "unclear what you're asking" vote in the first place unless there are comments explaining what parts of the spec need fixing (unless the question is completely incomprehensible, in which case I'd more likely cast a VLQ flag)

here, there's a lot of desire to fix the post, but we don't know what needs to be fixed!

mbomb007

4:36 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah, it was a joke, lol.

Business Cat

Well it seems fine... guess I just missed something due to being a sleep deprived zombie at the moment

It might help to have a little tl;dr at the end because it's a lot of text.

totallyhuman

I came because I heard half life 3

Erp disappointing

Business Cat

Sum up the key points

Emigna

I had difficulty understanding what the actual challenge was as there is a lot of text surround the important parts. After re-reading a couple of times I think I have the hang of it, but I really feel like there should be a way to explain the challenge in a shorter way.

ais523

right, I've let the OP know that that's the problem

Anonymous

4:50 PM

@Emigna That was my biggest concern, along with the challenge not being self-contained

ais523

right

I think the OP's made a new version now taking the criticism into account?

in other news, what's the appropriate action in the VLQ queue when the answer's new, autoflagged as VLQ, technically incorrect, but easily fixable?

clearly you leave a comment requesting the fix, but do you say looks-OK, edit, delete, or skip?

I don't want to make work for the mods if the answer doesn't get fixed (which is what would happen if a VLQ review on the post succeeded, as the post would then become immune to the VLQ queue and remove our main method of removing incorrect answers)

Anonymous

@ais523 If it's a very minor problem (like hardcoding input or missing a few test cases), and the poster seems like they'll fix it, I'll do Looks OK. If it's a major problem (loophole abuse, not a serious contender, etc.), I'll vote delete. If I'm on the fence, I usually just skip.

ais523

right, this is a case of hardcoding input in an otherwise correct solution

I guess I'll put an OK mark on it

Erik the Outgolfer

I've voted to reopen now, since it has been clarified.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

An implementation of a game called Nomic code-golf game Nomic is a game where you can change the rules. Humans are biased judges though, so let's have a computer run the rules! (Note that there are many variations of Nomic. Below is just one example.) Since you're minimalists, you want the origi...

ais523

5:01 PM

OK, thanks everyone

I know how upsetting it can be to be a new user, get a close-as-unclear vote, and have no idea what's going on

but looks like everything was resolved neatly now

Emigna

Feels a lot clearer now. Great that you assisted him with improvements. As you say, without feedback it can be easy to become frustrated and maybe give up.

Mistah Figgins

is there a java method for easily rounding away from zero to an integer?

ais523

away from zero? that's pretty rare as rounding methods go

so you'd almost certainly need a class dedicated to rounding handling specifically

Anonymous

@MistahFiggins Math.ceil for positive values

ais523

ceil rounds upwards, which is different from away-from-zero, but may be usable as an alternative depending on what the question is

Anonymous

5:09 PM

if(x<0)return Math.floor(x);else return Math.ceil(x)

Mistah Figgins

I'm asking because I'm making a custom comparareTo(Object o) that is based on doubles, and it wants to return an int. It would be a lot easier and simpler if I didn't have to use if statements, but I guess I can

ais523

oh, in that case definitely use the if statements

Mistah Figgins

yeah

ais523

there are a lot of edge and corner cases with doing any sort of arithmetic on floats

Anonymous

Math.signum(x)*Math.ceil(Math.abs(x))

ais523

5:10 PM

e.g. if the difference is outside of the integer range

in this case, Math.signum probably solves the problem by itself

Mistah Figgins

usually, when comparing integers, you can do this.whatever - o.whatever

ais523

depending on what you want the handling for minus zero to be

like, do you want +0 and -0 to compare equal?

Mistah Figgins

eh, I'm just gonna use if statements

@ais523 ideally

if there was a method in Math, for example, I would use that

ais523

I think Math.signum(this.whatever - o.whatever) is probably what you're looking for here, then

actually, even better: Double.compare

static method that compares two doubles

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Crash the Program code-golf Write a program that crashes. This does not mean you are supposed to crash the compiler. This is code-golf, so the shortest answer wins!

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Parse my passport, please! Recently I was tasked by my manager to build a frontend for a Passport scanner. This little machine extracts data from machine-readable passports and it parses it so you can easily manipulate the data fields on your application. More details on the format: https://en....

Mistah Figgins

5:25 PM

@ais523 oh cool

of course, I've already finished that method

Riker

just me or this is invalid

Leaky Nun

CMC: given e.g. n=4, output:

(trailing newlines, whitespaces, any non-whitespace printable character for 1)

flawr

@Riker are you invalid?

Riker

o-O

flawr

ps: /r/barkour/ /r/purrkour/

DJMcMayhem

5:35 PM

@LeakyNun V 5 bytes: Try it online!

Leaky Nun

@DJMcMayhem nice

Business Cat

@LeakyNun CJam, 10 bytes: ri{)'1*N}%

Riker

@flawr 9/10 not enough special effects

@LeakyNun can the non-whitespace char be the input char? and can we output a list?

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Actually, 5 bytes: R'1*i

Kritixi Lithos

@LeakyNun Dyalog APL, 8 bytes: ↑'1'⍴⍨¨⍳

Leaky Nun

5:37 PM

@Riker you must hardcode the char you use. you may not otput a list.

flawr

and if you speak german /r/parkuhr

Riker

python, 46 bytes: lambda x:'\n'.join([-~i*'1'for i in range(x)])

Leaky Nun

btw where is cjam cheatsheet?

Kritixi Lithos

sed, 23 + 1 bytes: Try it online!

Leaky Nun

@KritixiLithos that's cheating lol

Kritixi Lithos

5:42 PM

I don't want a 100+ byte solution :P

Business Cat

Retina, not cheating, half as long as sed :P

@LeakyNun Looks like it mysteriously disappeared

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Q: World Chess championship

The World Chess Championship 2016 was a chess match between reigning world champion Magnus Carlsen and challenger Sergey Karjakin, to determine the next World Chess Champion. Carlsen has been world champion since 2013, while Karjakin qualified as the challenger by winning the 2016 Candidates Tour...

code-golf

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat web.archive.org/web/20160318213408/https://…

Riley

@LeakyNun 05AB1E, 5 bytes: F1)J=

Kritixi Lithos

Röda, 23 22 bytes: Try it online!

Phoenix

6:04 PM

Python2, 34 bytes: for i in range(input()):print"1"*i

Kritixi Lithos

0/10 too pythonic :P

Phoenix

What do you mean

Leaky Nun

@Riker you are out-golfed

Phoenix

Complete program

Business Cat

Nvm didn't see input

Anonymous

6:06 PM

@Phoenix Remove the space between print and "1"

Phoenix

Thanks

Riker

@LeakyNun yea, I golfed that myself

didn't post though bc internet spazzed

Anonymous

Also it starts at 0, not 1

Anonymous

So you need range(1,input()+1) or print"1"*(i+1)

Riker

@Phoenix doesn't work idt, doesn't that do 0 1 2 3? for input 4?

yea

Leaky Nun

6:07 PM

@Mego that's redundant

Riker

@Mego or print -~i*"1"?

@LeakyNun no?

Phoenix

Can't edit anymore, pretend it says input()+1 for 36 bytes

Anonymous

@Riker print"1"*-~i is golfiest

Phoenix

Fine, let's go with that one.

Leaky Nun

@Riker he did (1,input()+1) as well as "1"*(i+1)

Riker

6:07 PM

print-~i*"1" is same length

> or print...

Leaky Nun

@Riker oops, I'm blind

Anonymous

Python 2, correct at 36 bytes: for i in range(input()):print"1"*-~i

Anonymous

@Riker Yeah but I prefer str*int over int*str

Phoenix

@mbomb007 I did but no one liked it ;-;

n->{for(int i:new int[n]){for(int j:new int[i])System.out.print(n);System.out.println();}}

Probably a golfier way

Riker

@Mego shrug

Phoenix

6:15 PM

CMC: Create a window/button/small area which changes in some noticeable visible way when double clicked and reverts back when double clicked again.

Double click being two clicks within a timeframe of your choice < 2 seconds.

Adnan

@LeakyNun recursive way in python: f=lambda x:x*"x"and f(x-1)+"1"*x+"\n"

Riker

same length, nice

Leaky Nun

@Adnan nicely done

Adnan

there has to be a better way though

programmer5000

6:51 PM

Can someone migrate this to SO?

ais523

@programmer5000 it needs a mod if it's closed like that

for some reason, a vote to close blocks a vote to migrate

programmer5000

Weird.

ais523

you have to select the migration option from the close box the first time

programmer5000

Where is that?

@Dennis @Doorknob @MartinEnder could one of you migrate this to SO?

ais523

@programmer5000 "This post belongs on another Stack Exchange site" as a standard offtopic reason

in general, though, it's more common for us to just close the post and ask the OP to repost

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6:56 PM

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Q: How do I create many admins at once with a list of usernames in python?

OK guys, I'm trying to use python with Command prompt to batch create multiple admins at one time. Currently, my code looks like this: import os list = ["person1@domain.org","person2@domain.org","person3@domain.org""] for person in list: os.system("net localgroup administrators /add " + p...

python

programmer5000

(there it is)

ais523

this site hardly ever participates in migrations

the most recent successful migration was this one

back in October 2015

programmer5000

I think that question might be good for SO, though.

ais523

right

the basic problem is that the vote to migrate competes with the vote to close

and the vote to close basically always wins

programmer5000

Should I custom mod flag?

ais523

7:00 PM

in fact I'm not sure I've seen anyone start a vote to migrate

I have a suspicion that the flag may end up being declined, even if maybe it shouldn't be

I haven't had good luck with "please change the close reason" mod flags

programmer5000

I'm impressed with this site's community moderation.

It took 3 minutes to close an off-topic question after it was posted.

Business Cat

I've seen it happen in under a minute :P

Riker

@programmer5000 if a post is off-topic, please don't bother editing

it bumps it into the RO queue sometimes

ais523

@Riker it's no big deal, edited closed questions in the RO queue are trivial to deal with

Riker

shrug

ais523

7:04 PM

our queues are zero basically all the time

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Which queue is RO?

reopen

Oh.

huh? I just got the message that a bounty of mine had entered grace period, 3 minutes ago, but the post itself says there's still 47 minutes left

could someone check this post and let me know if the bounty is still open?

Riker

it is

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7:16 PM

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Q: "99 bottles of fizz"

Challenge Write a program that outputs the lyrics to 99 Bottles of Beer, but instead of "beer", output "fizz" if the number of bottles on the wall is a multiple of 3, "buzz" for 5, and "fizzbuzz" for 15. If the number of bottles on the wall is not a multiple of 3 or 5, just output "beer" as usua...

code-golf string kolmogorov-complexity

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Q: Extract the Coefficients of a Linear Equation

Given a linear equation mx+n, return n and m. However, the equation may be in any of the following formats: 5x+2 -> 5 2 5x-2 -> 5 -2 5x -> 5 0 -2 -> 0 -2 x -> 1 0 All of these cases must be handled. Specifications: You can assume that the equation is in one of the above formats, i.e....

code-golf string number parsing

ais523

OK, I'll hold off on awarding it just yet, just in case there's a last-minute answer

hmm, should we have a fizzbuzz tag? we have plenty of questions on the subject

flawr

should we have an oeis tag?

ais523

I'd argue that sequence is normally enough

flawr

or a trivial tag

betseg

how can i golfily check if a number can be written as 4n or 4n+1 (n is an integer)

Leaky Nun

7:19 PM

@betseg n%4<2

betseg

oh ii missed the obvious answer

tried to do some bit magic

Leaky Nun

you can also do (n&3)<2

ais523

you can do better: !(x&2)

Leaky Nun

oh right

ais523

and better still: ~x&2 (requires a language in which complementing integers is safe, but this is true in most)

Leaky Nun

7:21 PM

maybe x+2&2

ais523

x+2&2 would work in languages with C-like precedence, even if the number wasn't complement-safe (e.g. was a bignum)

programmer5000

7:44 PM

@ais523 Yes.

@flawr Yes.

@flawr no

flawr

but why

betseg

timer.c:5:6: error: lvalue required as left operand of assignment
 f=g_timer_elapsed(t,i);
  ^

wut

oh nvm f was also a function name, but i declared a float called f

Business Cat

:P I hate things like that

betseg

8:02 PM

@Phoenix C, 501 + 38 (`pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`) = 539 bytes:

#include<gtk/gtk.h>
int n=-1;float*i,g;GTimer*t;GtkWidget*b,*w;f(){g_timer_stop(t);g=g_timer_elapsed(t,i);g_timer_start(t);if(g<2)gtk_button_set_label(GTK_BUTTON(b),~n++&2?"b":"a");}main(c,v)char**v;{gtk_init(&c,&v);w=gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);b=gtk_button_new_with_label("a");gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER(w),b);gtk_widget_show_all(w);g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(w),"destroy",G_CALLBACK(gtk_main_quit),0);g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(b),"clicked",G_CALLBACK(f),0);t=g_timer_new();gtk_main();}

GTK is soooo verbose

ais523

congrats @quintopia on winning the implement-a-TC-language bounty; you actually had the best two answers from my point of view, so I gave it to the shorter one

I really liked the resplicate answer too, though; it's a creative choice of language and one that works well with Python

Phoenix

8:19 PM

@betseg GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL is just a constant, right? You should be able to use its value directly.

betseg

@Phoenix developer.gnome.org/gtk2/stable/… ya can be 0

saved 18 bytes!

Hi friends!

hey!

o/

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Q: The circumference of an ASCII art object

Challenge: Create a function that takes in piece of ASCII art as a string and returns an int that is the length of the outer edge of the ASCII art in characters. The characters that are used are \, /, _, -, |, and *. The line characters always represent a distance of 1, they increment the answe...

code-golf ascii-art geometry

John Hathwood

8:28 PM

ooh

interesting

i like challenges that stop most golfing languages from being used

it's nice to see C#, C or ruby answers at the top

ais523

one of those languages is not like the others

Kritixi Lithos

@JohnHathwood *cough* C# *cough*

ais523

(Ruby has a long history as a codegolf language)

OK, all three of those languages are not like the other :-)

mınxomaτ

C# is really growing on me, mostly because of the consistency of compiler implementations. Also: Mono 5 is coming soon <3

John Hathwood

I do like C# every now and then

mınxomaτ

8:37 PM

Also, how C# gets more and more F# features where appropriate. C# 7 really is vastly superior from a productivity standpoint than it's previous users.

Martin Ender

Now that chat is a bit more active, can I quickly plug my sandbox post again? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/4750/8478 (Since it's not a new post, it doesn't get much attention otherwise I'm afraid.)

John Hathwood

yeah the sandbox is a bit clogged

Kritixi Lithos

> Expect the next one in 6 to 8 weeks.

Hey, that's when PPCG gets a graduation design!

Martin Ender

exactly

John Hathwood

PPCG hasnt graduated yet?

Phoenix

8:40 PM

We have

No design tho

John Hathwood

oh

Nathan Merrill

Java question: can any of you think of a string constant defined in the standard java libraries?

Kritixi Lithos

I can think of one in Processing

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/constant-values.html

Anonymous

There's a bunch

Nathan Merrill

8:42 PM

oooh

what a cool page

Anonymous

9:00 PM

@MartinEnder I like it, but I have no idea how it would be done :P

Martin Ender

@Mego thanks, that's a start :)

Riley

9:15 PM

@MartinEnder "The solution should not depend on any particular input to ensure that the output stream is regularly written and flushed." is a little confusing. If we are taking a newline delimited string, can we depend on the newline character being in the input? I'm thinking of languages like sed that read a line at a time.

Other than that, and my comment on the post itself, it looks good.

Anonymous

@ThomasWard Your avatar is still unsettling

Martin Ender

@Riley I'll reword that to "any particular sequence of input values".

If some separator is used as part of the input format that's fine.

Riley

So you can't wait for the sequence: 10,11,12 for example?

John Hathwood

I should be able to release a binary of my new language soon

ais523

9:52 PM

@MartinEnder: OK, I've written up a new Meta question on defining quines

Luis Mendo

Wow, a lot of work in that post

ais523

right, I don't think I've ever resorted to TIO links on a Meta question before :-)

Luis Mendo

You are based in UK, right? How did you live the ramsonware attack?

It hit hard on some companies in Spain

ais523

it's not like it affects everyone in the country immediately all at once

Luis Mendo

Sure

ais523

9:56 PM

it's shut down some companies and organisations (most notably many hospitals are in emergency-only mode)

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Q: We need a new proper quine definition

Note: In this Meta question, it was determined that the correct thing to do if you think an established consensus has become outdated is to post a new question, even if the question would otherwise be considered a duplicate. Background Our current rule for defining a "proper quine" is as fo...

discussion quine

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ais523

but hasn't affected me personally yet

Luis Mendo

Yes, I meant which companies

ais523

hopefully it'll be fixed before it does too much damage

the NHS is the big one that made the news

I don't think anyone's even reporting on any other victims, because of that

Luis Mendo

Here Telefónica (the telecom operator) had to shut down their computers

ais523

9:58 PM

does anyone know which sort of ransomware this is? (actual strong encryption-based ransomware which requires payment to retrieve the data, fake ransomware which is claiming to have encrypted the data but actually hasn't, or malware which just outright deletes all the data and then gives a payment line that doesn't do anything?)

DJMcMayhem

@ais523 Awesome question BTW

Do you have any examples of an eval quine?

ais523

there's a couple in the post

I have a five-language polyglot quine that's an eval quine in three languages, somewhere

looking for it now

Luis Mendo

@ais523 They told me it claims to have encrypted the data. I don't know if it's real. It requires payment to retrieve it

ais523

wait, no, that one isn't a quine

@LuisMendo all three sorts of ransomware do that, but two of them are lying

Christopher

This is an English quine

Luis Mendo

10:00 PM

^^ No idea then

ais523

@DJMcMayhem here: this isn't a true quine because the question was asking for something else, but it's a clear example of an eval quine structure

Christopher

I really borked TNB

Idk what I just did

ais523

@DJMcMayhem actually, better, what about this one?

Christopher

I was typing and the screen went white console opened and thousands of eval errors popped up

DJMcMayhem

@ais523 Huh. That one doesn't seem very cheap

I don't think a more solid definition of quine should exclude something like that (but that's just my opinion. Maybe someone would object)

ais523

10:04 PM

the reason some people find it cheap is that it's trivially convertible to a universal quine constructor, and thus makes almost all quine challenges solvable the same way

I personally think that's a problem with the challenge, not with the quine structure; but some people disagree

incidentally, I'm not that attached to my answer on the quine question; I'm hoping that there are better answers there, but I posted it in case there aren't

Phoenix

10:20 PM

My laptop is powering on, but it doesn't go to BIOS. I see the power light on and I can hear all the components spinning around inside, but nothing is appearing onscreen

Send help

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Tips for golfing in /// What general tips do you have for golfing in ///? I'm looking for ideas which can be applied to code-golf problems and which are also at least somewhat specific to /// (e.g. "remove comments" is not an answer). Please post one tip per answer. Sandbox stuff: /// is a ...

Phoenix

Apparently it's a known issue... caused by Windows 8. That's rather depressing, considering my laptop has Ubuntu 17 on it.

Luis Mendo

But it came with Windows 8, didn't it? Windows 8 left its trace :-P

Phoenix

It can with Windows 7 that I upgraded to Windows 10 and then to Ubuntu

I have a project I've been working on for 2 weeks on there...

It's due on Monday...

Luis Mendo

Oh man, sorry

Phoenix

10:29 PM

I suppose I could steal another thinkpad and swap the drives.

Luis Mendo

It doesn't even startup on USB / CD?

Phoenix

The bios doesn't start

Luis Mendo

So how could WIndows spoil the BIOS?

Phoenix

It doesn't spoil the BIOS, it spoils the display hardware that causes the BIOS to crash.

I'm not sure how.

I can tell that it's not just the screen, if it booted to Ubuntu just without the display functioning then I would have to actually hold down the power button to shut it off, rather than it being instant.

The screen turns on, like I can see it getting brighter, but it's black.

Adnan

Anyone knows how to do this challenge in Python for 25 bytes?

I get the 26 byte solution, but 25 seems impossible to me

Wheat Wizard

10:35 PM

@Adnan ?

Phoenix

@Adnan Are lambdas allowed?

Adnan

@WheatWizard yeah it must be a full program

forgot to specify that

Wheat Wizard

Thats no fun

Adnan

It's weird, because 26 is trivial

But I'm probably missing something very obvious here

Luis Mendo

No anonymous function allowed? Then I don't see how Octave can be 32

Wheat Wizard

10:39 PM

Probably string formatting?

Is it python 2 or 3

Business Cat

2

Python 3 has 30 bytes as the best

Wheat Wizard

hm then never mind on the formatting

Adnan

@LuisMendo I don't know Octave too well, but I think it must support IO by itself

Downgoat

Question: in java how to do equivilinent of this JS:

Luis Mendo

@Adnan And the output has to be exact? So no ans = ... allowed? Because then I dunno how to get below 35

Hm 34 now

Adnan

10:44 PM

Yup, I don't think ans is allowed

@LuisMendo Hey nice! :)

Luis Mendo

Octave's e is golfy :-)

Wheat Wizard

What the heck?

DJMcMayhem

@WheatWizard That actually makes sense

Wheat Wizard

I have never see this before. I feel like it should error

Adnan

How does it make sense?

DJMcMayhem

10:47 PM

"g""o" == "go"

Adnan

huh

Wheat Wizard

Now I want to figure out how to golf with this

DJMcMayhem

And I guess it has higher precedence than *

Wheat Wizard

Its not an operation tho

tio.run/nexus/python2#@19QlJlXopSupKGUr6SVmVdQWqKhqamtlJ6TqvT/…

Adnan

@WheatWizard I feel like string formatting should save a byte

I just don't know how

Destructible Lemon

10:49 PM

@WheatWizard the only use in golfing this has is when you need to use two types of quotes in a string

Wheat Wizard

This new thing is hilarious

@DestructibleLemon Oh yeah thats real smart

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Destructible Lemon

@WheatWizard ? is that sarcasm

Wheat Wizard

@DestructibleLemon No it works

Destructible Lemon

ok thanks

Wheat Wizard

10:51 PM

tio

could probably be used for polyglots too

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