The Nineteenth Byte

ATaco

22:00

Any software still dependent on Silverlight needs to re-evaluate their dependencies.

Григорий Перельман

That's not the point

Wheat Wizard

Why does this question show up as yellow on the front page?

Григорий Перельман

Besides, Silverlight isn't all that bad.

@WheatWizard Not for me.

Wait, do you have the Graduation Script running?

Wheat Wizard

Downgoat

@WheatWizard it means that question has a tag that is in your favorites

Григорий Перельман

22:01

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh, ^^

Wheat Wizard

@Downgoat Ah thanks never seen that before

Downgoat

apparently I need to write a thing called "Privacy Policy" :/

Григорий Перельман

Well, duh

Downgoat

can I just write "GitGoat uses safari for login not my fault if account get hacked"

Григорий Перельман

No

TuxCopter

22:03

The Delta II is so cool its debris survive reentry and landing

Downgoat

@TuxCopter yay, now I have to worry about satellite falling out of sky onto head

betseg

CMC: probability of ^

ATaco

Are you stalking my GitHub..?

TuxCopter

@betseg Very rare

Григорий Перельман

@betseg I think there's a what-if dealing with that

ATaco

22:05

I'm generally accepting of people knowing my Full Name on a Professional Level, and I am in fact, in that regard, a Lemon.

betseg

:O

Tobi

why?

u ban for saying "You're not on my level" ???

Jan Dvorak

Round three...

ATaco

Tobi

im just confused

that makes no sense

TuxCopter

22:09

Saying "You're not on my level" is not really nice

Jan Dvorak

Pro-tip: don't use "u" as if it were a word. It's "you". Similarly for "ur".

Tobi

This is the internet; people abbreviate words.

DJMcMayhem

@Tobi No one banned manually. Someone thought it was offensive and flagged it, and either 6 people or a mod agreed that it was rude. Then you were banned for using a sock to Evade a suspension

TuxCopter

@JanDvorak y to

Tobi

especially in "chats."

Destructible Lemon

22:10

yes I thought we liked compression here

Григорий Перельман

Valve just highered a new employee for Linux development, there are now 5 total.

ATaco

Not generally here, although I don't believe there's a restriction against it.

Tobi

i didnt use any socks

DJMcMayhem

Right now, it's not that big of a deal, just try to be more careful in the future

Tobi

what do u mean?

TuxCopter

22:11

@Tobi Tobiq is your secondary accout so you did used socks

ATaco

We are host to quite a few different cultures, and that includes varying levels of English ability, it's respectful to try to keep true to the original language.

Tobi

whats and accout

DJMcMayhem

@Tobi Someone named "Tobiq" came in here immediately after and said "why did you ban me?" I'm pretty sure that was you

Tobi

and why r u speaking about socks

i didnt deny it

so what do r u on about?

TuxCopter

A sock is a secondary account

ATaco

22:11

Ban Evading?

Tobi

i made it evident it was me...

Григорий Перельман

Please try to use proper grammar >_>.

ATaco

That's a clear violation of any rule set.

TuxCopter

And using a sock to circumvent a ban is bannable

Tobi

No body calls secondary accounts socks...

DJMcMayhem

22:12

That's called a "sock puppet" account, or "a sock" informally

Tobi

"plese try to use proper grammer"

mınxomaτ

@Tobi That's not relevant.

ATaco

@Mods

Tobi

so you can say socks

TuxCopter

@Tobi sock = sockpuppet, and on the internet "sock" is used quite frequently

Tobi

22:12

but i cant even use u?

Jan Dvorak

indeed

Downgoat

@Tobi We're a professional chatroom so I'd appreciate if you could use more proper english grammar and not use text-speak. Please take a look at Chatiquette

ATaco

There's a difference between Slang and not putting in any effort.

We are similarly against things like "Avocad".

Tobi

wtf is avocad?

Jan Dvorak

You don't want to know

Tobi

22:13

this is so hypocritical

Destructible Lemon

I have to say there is little wrong with using abbreviations assuming it's obvious to understand

TuxCopter

@Tobi A PPCG meme

ATaco

It's a bastardization of "Avocado", and we accidentally convinced a non-native English speaker that was the correct spelling.

Jan Dvorak

It's french for "lawyer"

Tobi

PPCG is???

TuxCopter

22:14

@Tobi This site (codegolf.se)

ATaco

I personally am not against the usage of "u", but I prefer it not being used.

DJMcMayhem

The site you're on...

Tobi

its called

ATaco

Also, An Acronym is not an Abbreviation.

Downgoat

@JanDvorak isn't that avocat

Tobi

22:14

no ppgsc

Jan Dvorak

@ATaco I' believe that's a contradiction

Maltysen

@Riker idk about online but I used the Thomas a Finney textbook, it's a classic

ATaco

I'm not going to stop someone from using it, but I can have an opinion on it.

TuxCopter

@Downgoat Avocat, which is the same word as the word for avocado (yay French)

Jan Dvorak

@Downgoat not sure. They tend to write twice as many letters as they read.

ATaco

22:15

Regardless, Tobi just admitted to attempting to Ban Evade, which is clearly malicious.

Maltysen

@riker The Paul's lecture notes keep on coming up on Google, and are thorough, but I'm not sure how good they are for learning as opposed to a reference

Григорий Перельман

By the way, just so we don't argue about this later, saying 'wut' in response to something is fine, right?

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco um, well he already got the ban for it?

ATaco

For Ban Evading or something relevant?

Tobi

You can have ur opinion

but that doesnt mean i should get bannd

ATaco

22:16

'Eh, I'm not a mod.

Destructible Lemon

From what I can gather from what has been said

Downgoat

@ГригорийПерельман no, it's just as meaningless as "?"

Maltysen

@Riker the Khan academy course looked good, but I don't have any personal experience with it. He's very good at explaining math tho, so thats prolly good

TuxCopter

@Tobi Ban evading is bannable, I guess that's obvious

DJMcMayhem

@Tobi Alright, this is getting off-topic and pointless. I'm sorry you were suspended, but it's time to move on. If you're careful, it won't happen again.

Tobi

22:17

Yes but that was after my initial ban

ASCII-only

@Downgoat D: oh no i say that way too much

Tobi

thats irrelevant to my argument

Destructible Lemon

That reminds me of that time when I said "shut up" and it got deleted

DJMcMayhem

In an attempt to change the topic of conversation, CMC: Given a string as input, print it diagonally. For example, "hello" should become:

Maltysen

@Riker also, if u have any questions, feel free to ping me. I love teaching people calc :)

ATaco

22:17

My argument is different to yours, my only issue is the rule you did break.

DJMcMayhem

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TuxCopter

@Tobi When you get banned you should not evade the ban. It makes the ban pointless.

Destructible Lemon

@DJMcMayhem mostly already on the site

Tobi

ok

youre neglecting my point

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem cheddar: @.chars.map((c,i)->" "*i+c).asLines

Tobi

22:18

intentionally

and irritatingly

i got banned initially for no reason

cos ppl didnt like my speak

Downgoat

@Tobi did you read the chatiquette link I sent you?

mınxomaτ

48 mins ago, by Doorknob

@Tobiq 1.) Be Nice. 2.) Using alternate accounts to circumvent a suspension is against the rules, so I'm suspending this account for the same duration as your other one.

There's nothing to add here.

Thomas Ward

sigh

Tobi

stop banning

Destructible Lemon

@DJMcMayhem muhahaha I have a language that's basically designed for this

mınxomaτ

22:20

Please refrain from indulging in further discussion on this matter.

Григорий Перельман

@DJMcMayhem a='Hello';for i in range(5):print " "*i,a[i]

ATaco

@DJMcMayhem RProgN, 25 bytes

Destructible Lemon

@ГригорийПерельман improper input method

Downgoat

@ГригорийПерельман -1 for hardcoding input

ASCII-only

@DJMcMayhem Charcoal, 2 bytes: ↘Ｓ

Destructible Lemon

22:20

@Downgoat ninja'd?

@ASCII-only damn

wait that's improper input isn't it

Григорий Перельман

@Downgoat It wasn't specified that there is input, I assumed it was a contant-output challenge.

Downgoat

@ASCII-only wow ok...

DJMcMayhem

@ASCII-only @ГригорийПерельман You do realize you can take input, right?

ATaco

-1 Hardcoded Input

Destructible Lemon

4 mins ago, by DJMcMayhem

In an attempt to change the topic of conversation, CMC: Given a string as input, print it diagonally. For example, "hello" should become:

[example]

DJMcMayhem

22:21

@ASCII-only Although, that's a really beautifully simple solution

Григорий Перельман

Oh, U didn't see that

ASCII-only

@DJMcMayhem Yeah didn't see the CMC

2 bytes :D :D :D

Григорий Перельман

lambda a:for i in range(5):print " "*i,a[i]

Downgoat

@ASCII-only how does charcoal differ between string vs letter command

Destructible Lemon

how do we deal with spaces?

Григорий Перельман

22:22

I think that works, IDK python lambdas.

ASCII-only

@Downgoat that is not an ascii S is how

Destructible Lemon

specifically leading and trailing spaces

DJMcMayhem

Every V solution I can think of feels wrong somehow

Destructible Lemon

can they be omitted since it doesn't change the appearance?

Downgoat

what if I wanted non-ascii S in strin

Григорий Перельман

22:23

@Downgoat All printable ascii is a string literal

betseg

@DJMcMayhem C, 54 tio.run/nexus/…

ATaco

Golfed to 18 bytes x=0xLR{]` *\x\ü.};

ASCII-only

@Downgoat Charcoal, 3 bytes: ↘´Ｓ

ATaco

@ГригорийПерельман Length of the string is hardcoded.

Григорий Перельман

Derp, didn't realize

Pretend that says len(a)

ATaco

22:25

You can't make me

Destructible Lemon

might not agree with all the rules but

(because they weren't stated)

Turtled, !u[*d.r_+]_

TuxCopter

Zzyzx

Destructible Lemon

brb getting tio link

ATaco

io.open("f","wb"):write((io.read():gsub(".","%0\n"))) technically works on windows machines in Lua.

But most text viewers will not correctly render it.

TuxCopter

@ATaco How does it works?

mınxomaτ

22:28

> The BIOS much support at least 512M GPU aperture size or could be configurable to a large size.

Intel really has some of the worst docs ever.

ATaco

By definition, \n just moves down one line vertically, it's just that most implementations have an implicit \r before it when rendering the text.

Григорий Перельман

@mınxomaτ Are you programming in Assmebly or something?

Why do you need the Intel docs?

mınxomaτ

Why would you think this is about Assembly?

TuxCopter

Intel docs cover a lot more things than just the x86 instruction set

Григорий Перельман

I just thought they made processors..?

mınxomaτ

22:31

Not really, no.

flawr

@Riker what level?

TuxCopter

Nope, and anyway the x86 architecture is way more complex than just an instruction set

mınxomaτ

@TuxCopter The third Agner book is all you need. The architecture reference is either for ring0 pentesters or people who spin silicon for a living.

TuxCopter

Wait what is an Agner

mınxomaτ

@TuxCopter agner.org/optimize

TuxCopter

22:33

Oh

mınxomaτ

The best books on CPUs and compiler optimization ever written. And they are free, too.

Though book 3, 4 and 5 are references. Not really "guides".

TuxCopter

Those books seems interesting

flawr

Today is Einstein's birthday. And it's pi day. Coincidence?

Destructible Lemon

22:54

@flawr yes

flawr

liar

and rethorical answers are not a thing

Riker

@Maltysen cool, read all your pings, I'll ping you if I need help :D

@flawr I know no calc yet

flawr

So you haven't learned about series limits derivatives and integrals?

Riker

uh

learned about 1

and bits of 2

but nope no clue about the last 2 bits

flawr

Ok then I probably cannot help you, as I don't know any good ressouces.

Riker

23:08

hm, okay

@ГригорийПерельман I clean installed this OS about 6 months ago

why is it at pre win7 update status

flawr

But if you ever get any concrete questions feel free to ping me!

Riker

:D will do

Helka Homba

@flawr How much water do I need to set 1 cubic foot of cement?

Destructible Lemon

@HelkaHomba Cement is not concrete!

Riker

it's still a concrete question though

Destructible Lemon

23:13

I disagree

asking about concrete would be a cement question

but concrete is more specific than cement

Riker

it's still concrete though

> constituting an actual thing or instance; real: a concrete proof of his sincerity. 2. pertaining to or concerned with realities or actual instances rather than abstractions; particular (opposed to general): concrete ideas.

Helka Homba

@DestructibleLemon isn't generally concrete = [portland] cement + water (+ aggregates sometimes) ?

Destructible Lemon

@HelkaHomba concrete is by definition aggregates bonded with cement

according to wikipedia anyway

Григорий Перельман

@Riker 6 months is a long enough time to accumulate a Silverlight dependency

I generally get it by around week 2

Riker

one that runs an ancient version?

Григорий Перельман

23:20

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Riker

^

Anonymous

23:48

@ГригорийПерельман A Silverlight dependency sounds like something you need to send your computer to rehab for

Riker

lol

Григорий Перельман

And yet, it happens inevitably anyway.

Anonymous

IMO, if something needs Silverlight, it's usually not worth using

Riker

^

Григорий Перельман

Silverlight isn't that bad. It's just another library.

Anonymous

23:51

@ГригорийПерельман It's an extremely bloated library with poor performance and poor security

Dennis

IE 6 isn't that bad. It's just another browser.

2

Thomas Ward

@Dennis This statement is blasphemy in its purest form.

Григорий Перельман

ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

Tabs aren't that bad. They're just another form of whitespace.

2

Anonymous

(obvious satire btw)

ATaco

23:53

I like Tabs.

Destructible Lemon

@Mego everyone take this out of context

Григорий Перельман

*ಠ_ಠ intensifes*

Anonymous

Oh no, now it's going to look like I actually agree with that blasphemy

Григорий Перельман

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Anonymous

That's enough with the meme faces

Helka Homba

23:56

CMC: Website with most users that does not use https.

DJMcMayhem

@HelkaHomba Stack exchange. :P

Григорий Перельман

http://www.bing.com/
...

Anonymous

@ГригорийПерельман He said "most"

Helka Homba

@DJMcMayhem It does mostly and it's getting there

Григорий Перельман

Bing has 5% market share among search engines.

Helka Homba

23:59

@ГригорийПерельман says https for me

Григорий Перельман

Over 1/20th of Google's userbase is a lot of people.

Oh, huh.

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