The Nineteenth Byte

Riker

04:00

lol

> A typical Reddit user sleeps with a hammer.

i can't deny this, I have embraced my true redditor and now carry my (mod) hammer 24/7

Mistah Figgins

@Riker That pun was simply smashing! :P

Riker

04:20

thank you

ignores further pun

R. Kap

04:34

Hey, do we really not have a challenge on finding the n'th prime number yet?

I was searching around and found related challenges but nothing asking to find the n'th prime number.

Wheat Wizard

@R.Kap Its pretty much a duplicate of primality test

Riker

I could have sworn we did

@WheatWizard not really

R. Kap

@WheatWizard You think so?

Wheat Wizard

Except for builtins I don't see how any approach might be different

Mistah Figgins

count up from 2, check if n is prime, if it is increment count. When count is = input, output n

Really just primality tetsing with an iteration shell thing

Wheat Wizard

04:38

Yeah pretty much

R. Kap

Hmm...I see your point.

How about a fastest code version?

Wheat Wizard

That would be more interesting

probably done though

R. Kap

Trying to out compete others in terms of how high of an n your program can handle in the shortest amount of time possible?

Wheat Wizard

Yeah would be pretty interesting and I don't think it would be a dupe

R. Kap

I guess I'll propose that in the sandbox then and see how far it gets.

Wheat Wizard

04:46

Yeah sandboxing seems like a good idea

Downgoat

04:58

[ [ NumberLiteral { value: '123' } ],
  [ NumberLiteral { value: '1' }, NumberLiteral { value: '23' } ],
  [ NumberLiteral { value: '12' }, NumberLiteral { value: '3' } ],
  [ NumberLiteral { value: '1' },
    NumberLiteral { value: '2' },
    NumberLiteral { value: '3' } ] ]

oh my

(This is generated AST for 123 btw)

TheNumberOne

@Downgoat I like this.

ASCII-only

05:22

@Downgoat ... you bork cheddar again?

@Downgoat also pls reply to vsl message

betseg

Which hand do you use strawpoll.me/12492628

Pavel

@betseg Can't access, put me down for "right".

MCMC: Calculate average case time complexity of Bogo Sort

Mistah Figgins

05:39

Looks like a relatively high population of left-handed people here right now...

I mean, there are only 5 votes

betseg

That's why I want to post this 12 hours later too

Mistah Figgins

ooh, someone is ambidextrous.

betseg

@Pavel done with opera VPN

Pavel

I can't install Opera either

TheNumberOne

@betseg What if it depends on what you're doing?

betseg

05:43

Select "both"

@MistahFiggins I and some nerd Turkish guys have a telegram group

Mistah Figgins

I've always found (dis)abilities fascinating, like color blindness, or deafness, or ambidexterity. It's interesting because I will probably never know what It's like to experience those things.

betseg

^^The left handed are around 75%

ATaco

I've Lazy Eye, if that's interesting.

betseg

I have asthma and astigmatism

Pavel

I have -9 vision

betseg

05:45

-6.5 hi

Pavel

@ATaco What's that?

ATaco

Both of my eyes can move independently, an often do without my control.

Helka Homba

@Pavel A good song

Pavel

I have some kind of extra artery that leads to me eyes, but apparently that doesn't actually mean anything significant.

Mistah Figgins

Not as interesting or relevant in my life now, but I had an extra adult tooth that turned my normal front tooth 90 degrees

Braces in 3rd grade or something crazy

ATaco

05:51

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotropia is my particular flavour of lazy eye for the curious.

betseg

@Pavel do your friends take your glasses, raise fingers and ask now many they're raising? -,-

Pavel

No, actually, but they used to. I get... defensive

ATaco

All but two of my mates have Glasses.

Mistah Figgins

Not 5, ya idjit! 4! a thumbs not a finger!

ATaco

We never really needed to do that "How many fingers am I holding up" thing.

Pavel

05:53

Seeing as how I can't even read size 12 font from more than 6 inches away.

betseg

@ATaco put glasses on those two and ask how many fingers you're raising!

Mistah Figgins

I don't have that bad eyesight. I can see things pretty clearly up close, but reading text across the room gets annoying enough for glasses

Pavel

I've done that

ATaco

Also, my glasses is surprisingly unrelated to my Exotropia.

I guess I just have bad eyes.

Mistah Figgins

Anyone here colorblind?

Pavel

05:58

I can only see one color without my glasses, does that count?

ATaco

Is that; "Gray Blur"?

Pavel

How'd you guess?

Mistah Figgins

If you don't have glasses for some reason, you can create a pinhole with your hand and look through that. Everything should be more focused

Pavel

I know

Mistah Figgins

But it limits your vision, and makes everything darker

Pavel

06:00

But for previously mentioned reasons I never don't have my glasses

betseg

@MistahFiggins 18% now

Mistah Figgins

I think it's something like 10-15% left handed in the world

don't know exactly

ATaco

10%, According to google.

New Meta Posts

06:22

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Q: Sandboxing Multi-Thread Challenges

I am currently sandboxing a challenge that will have two threads. I was wondering if there was any good way to do Multi-thread challenges like cops-and-robbers. Typically I do one thread explaining the idea and get feedback on the idea rather than the formatting details and wording. However I ...

Mistah Figgins

At first I thought this was about Threads

Kritixi Lithos

06:52

@Pavel and I thought my -2.25 was a lot

Pavel

I have an Aunt who has -17, her glasses are like a centimeter thick

Everyone in my family has really bad vision

Kritixi Lithos

My left eye is -2 and my right eye is the one that is -2.25

Pavel

My left eye is -7.75, my right is -9.5

betseg

-5.5 and -6.5, both with .5 astigmatism, hi

Kritixi Lithos

What's astigmatism?

betseg

06:58

More complicated than myopia to explain :/

Pavel

Basically everything gets a bit blurry regardless of how far away it is.

Kritixi Lithos

Like cataracts?

Pavel

IDK, I don't have cataracts.

New Main Posts

07:11

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Q: Find B1nar0 Solutions

B1nar0 puzzle is a paper and pencil game with 0 and 1. The goal is to fill the grid accoring to 3 rules : No more than 2 consecutive 0s or 1s Each row/column has half 0s and half 1s No identical row/columns Example : [ A is 0 according to rule 1 B is 1 according to rule 1 C is 0 according ...

code-golf

Emigna

08:32

@NickClifford: Does Ohm have something similiar to 05AB1E's global array?

Anonymous

08:48

@KritixiLithos Astigmatism is when your eyeballs are deformed

Matthew Roh

I have an idea of a C&R challenge

(I'm doing it in sandbox this time since this is my first C&R)

Cops make a hello world program and write out their MD5 sum

Robbers crack the original code

Anonymous

@MatthewRoh Pretty sure that's been done

Anonymous

If not on the main site, then in the sandbox

Matthew Roh

Huh. not on the main.

Adnan

@Emigna Congrats on 20k! :)

Matthew Roh

08:53

Not in sandbox either

:D

btw my eyesight isn't negative, but I do need to check again

Emigna

09:09

@Adnan Thanks! :)

betseg

@MatthewRoh and someone discovers a hash collision?

Ductr Tape

now with an explanation!

Matthew Roh

09:28

@betseg actually the question itself is to find a hash collision

Emigna

09:39

@NickClifford: Feature request: Addition working with arrays.

New Sandboxed Posts

10:07

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Division and remainder A simple challenge once in a while is good for trying the most particular of languages, and to build a repository of answers in many different languages. This challenge is extremely simple, but I believe very few languages will have a builtin for it (many will do with two...

Kritixi Lithos

@fergusq How do you set the step of seq in Röda? I tried seq 1,10,2 but it yield an error stating that I can only use a maximum of 3 arguments

fergusq

@KritixiLithos seq(a, b, step=s)

It seems that I don't mention that in the documentation. I should update it more frequently.

Kritixi Lithos

Ah, that's the kwargs

One of the teachers in my school got hit with ransomware

Kritixi Lithos

10:48

feature-request Have Röda support reverse sequences like seq 10,1 without have a step value stated

Christopher Peart

11:07

I appear

Hello all

Thanks for the edits made to my answer mmbomb and riker

Destructible Watermelon

How to use cron? I need to schedule a reminder in the far future to finish a joke

ASCII-only

@Dennis Can you pull Charcoal? Thanks in advance!

New Main Posts

0

Q: Shortest self-analyzing program

Oh, <PROGRAM NAME HERE>, tell me how many character '<CHARACTER HERE>'/s are there in your body. Your work is to write a quine-like program/function that takes an input of one character, and respond with a number telling how many times that character occurs in your program. Comments, indents, ...

code-golf

Christopher Peart

How do directors make really deep meanings in the script and whatnot but everyone is like YASS stuff go BOOM?

ASCII-only

11:23

@ChristopherPeart Because some movies were made for excitement, not for the sole purpose of being inspected in detail?

Christopher Peart

@ASCII-only Yeah but some of those excitement movies (that i love) the directors have deep meanings

ASCII-only

@ChristopherPeart Yeah, but IMO a lot of people watch it just for the excitement, only some people watch/rewatch it to find hidden meanings/easter eggs

fergusq

@KritixiLithos That sounds reasonable, so why not. I implemented it.

Nick Clifford

12:27

@Emigna Not exactly, but the "map" component generally covers the use cases of the global array, I believe.

@Emigna By this, do you mean like array concatenation or like vectorization of addition?

Emigna

@NickClifford Vectorized addition. [1,2,3] + 5 for example

I assume map can't handle this case?

Dennis

@ASCII-only Done.

Emigna

@NickClifford Actually, the map/collect command seem to be able to handle this. I missed that it existed when searching earlier

Nick Clifford

12:52

@Emigna Yeah, in that case you could just do 3@▓_5+ or something.

Emigna

Yeah, I realized that when I noticed that ▓ existed

Automatic vectorization of addition would have been golfier though, so I suggest thinking about that as a future feature :)

Anonymous

> Ohm is a stack-oriented programming language inspired by 05AB1E and Jelly designed specifically for code golf.

Anonymous

ಠ_ಠ

Emigna

Pretty nice combination as well if I may say so :)

Fits my way of thinking

Anonymous

@NickClifford You're missing out on a lot of history with stack-based/single-byte-command languages. Golfscript, CJam, and Seriously all came before 05AB1E and Jelly.

ASCII-only

13:01

@Dennis Sorry to bother you again, but can you pull Charcoal again? Thanks

ETHproductions

We should write something somewhere about the history of golfing langs

ASCII-only

@ETHproductions Will it start with "Once upon a time, there was GolfScript" (idk which was first though)

betseg

It's been a week since the last answer to the "add a language to a polyglot" challenge. Safe answer incoming?

ETHproductions

More like "Once upon a time, there was APL"

3

"And then 40 years later, GolfScript showed up"

Anonymous

@ETHproductions "In the beginning, there were no golfing languages. This made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."

12

ASCII-only

13:04

And Kenneth said, "Let there be APL," and there was APL.

@ETHproductions btw you might want to add Ohm to this

ETHproductions

@Mego I guess Jon Skeet forgot to tell God about golfing languages

@ASCII-only Good idea, I'll do that momentarily

ASCII-only

Also Charcoal kinda has docs on its GH wiki

no quick ref yet, will add that asap

asap meaning like tomorrow at the earliest

Anonymous

@ETHproductions No, he did. The response was "6-8 weeks".

ETHproductions

TIL God is SE

Anonymous

Even divine beings have trouble with deadlines. That whole Genesis stuff was supposed to be done in an hour.

ASCII-only

13:09

@Mego Not 6-8 days?

ETHproductions

So Ohm is basically a stack-based language with Jelly's link system? That's clever

ASCII-only

@ETHproductions also there's probably a reason you don't have full names on the golfing langs page right?

ETHproductions

I do have full names wherever I could find them (if you're talking about the authors' full names)

If the user's full name is public, they're probably fine with having the language listed under that name

Anonymous

@ASCII-only That's a pretty neat list

Dennis

@ASCII-only Done. Could you state requests in talk.tryitonline.net? Easier to keep track of them that way.

ETHproductions

13:14

Does Ohm have an online interpreter? It's not on TIO, so I'd assume not

betseg

@Dennis chrome says certificate is invalid

Dennis

Eh, HTTPS.

ETHproductions

@ASCII-only Finished

betseg

@Dennis someone can redirect to a different site plz https this site too

Nick Clifford

@ETHproductions Afraid not.

@ETHproductions Essentially!

Anonymous

13:19

@betseg There's nothing Dennis can do about that not being HTTPS currently. If you'll look at the pinned message on the starboard, you'll see that chat will soon be HTTPS.

Anonymous

The lack of HTTPS is SE's problem, not Dennis's. talk.tryitonline.net is just a DNS redirect

betseg

@Mego ah k

Dennis

Chat itself works with HTTPS, but it makes a bunch of links HTTPS as well, so all per-site metas are broken.

Nick Clifford

@Mego I'm aware, but the main reason I made Ohm was that 05AB1E didn't have a lot of the features I wanted (mainly a simple way to do array mapping and selecting), so I just made my own language.

ETHproductions

@ASCII-only There, I added a few more full names that weren't available when I started the list

Anonymous

13:24

@ETHproductions It might be worth noting that the Seriously/Actually docs are a WIP.

ETHproductions

@Mego Sure, done. I added a WIP notice to a couple of the newer langs too (Ohm and Charcoal specifically)

Anonymous

Cool, thanks

Nathan Merrill

any C# programmers here?

how does file discovery work in C#?

Like, in a particular project, does C# open every file in a directory/subdirectory?

or does it require that namespaces be the same as the filepath?

Nick Clifford

13:41

I find it really interesting that a lot of golfing language interpreters are written in Python

Nathan Merrill

oh Python is hugely popular around here :)

and since we don't care about speed, why not?

LliwTelracs

There are some rare challenges where speed is important though

Emigna

@NathanMerrill Not 100% sure what you're asking but files are generally linked in the .csproj file. Is that what you're asking?

Nathan Merrill

yeah, I just found that, so thanks for the confimation

Emigna

If you're asking about how to know which files to build and/or publish

Nathan Merrill

13:45

that sounds odd to me: It makes editing C# with any non-IDE annoying

Emigna

That is very true

But Microsoft wants you to use Visual Studio

Nathan Merrill

fair enough

Emigna

Or optionally the "Code"-project IDE

Nathan Merrill

I really like the ability to separate namespaces from file path, but to me, it appears that limits you to two options: Include every file in a subdirectory or have a file that tells you what to include

hmmmm....maybe I'll go somewhere in the middle:

have a file that tells you what to include, but allow for wildcards

also, have an exclude command

ETHproductions

So basically have a default, but also have complete configuration powers?

Nathan Merrill

13:51

no, I won't include anything by default

besides the initial .csproj (or whatever I call it) file

ETHproductions

I think that's what I meant

I don't know C# very well tho

Nathan Merrill

hey, neither do I :)

Ductr Tape

would {(x, y, v)} with v in [queen, no queen] be a valid input format for this question? Computing them in ><> is a pain :).

Nick Clifford

>The input may be in any reasonable format, as per PPCG rules

Ductr Tape

Yeah but where's the boundary for reasonability?

Nathan Merrill

13:54

is that really a rule?

Nick Clifford

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Nathan Merrill

@DuctrTape I'd ask that on the question.

@NickClifford oh, you were quoting the question

he was probably saying "any reasonable format, as long as it fits the rules of PPCG"

which makes a lot more sense :)

LliwTelracs

@NickClifford you seem to have lost an arm somewhere

Nick Clifford

Yep

Ductr Tape

I asked in the question.

Nick Clifford

13:56

@LliwTelracs Freaking Markdown backslash escapes...

Ductr Tape

Because, well, it might be part of the difficulty of the question to figure out the coordinates.

user165474

I'm currently working on a challenge which asks you to find a basis for each eigenspace of a matrix/system of linear equations; does anyone here recall a similar or already existing challenge? I did a few searches and couldn't seem to find anything similar.

Anonymous

@HyperNeutrino This one is related but not quite the same thing

user165474

@Mego Oh okay, thanks. So not quite identical, but related. I'll link to it in my challenge. Thanks!

AdmBorkBork

14:15

Didn't we have a challenge where you (essentially) did a union between the input string and the source code? Why can I not find that?

ETHproductions

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Q: Input ∩ Source Code

Intro The challenge is to create a program/function that prints the intersection of its own source code and a given string input. This is code golf and to be more precise: Let I be the input set {"a","b","c"} Let S be the source code set {"b","f"} Then the intersection is what they shar...

code-golf quine

user165474

That was fast :P

ETHproductions

That was intersection though, huh

AdmBorkBork

Durr, because I had my search wrong

No, that's the one I was thinking of, I just confused union/intersection in my head

But because I was searching for union, no wonder I couldn't find it

ETHproductions

Oh, ok

user165474

14:19

Oh wait, yeah, union of x and y is {k|k in x or k in y} right?

ETHproductions

@AdmBorkBork I did too, that's how I found it so fast :P

I remembered that there was a challenge like you described that had a title of "Input <symbol> Source Code" and so I searched "input source code"

AdmBorkBork

Yay, we're the best at this.

@HyperNeutrino Yes. Intersection of x and y is {k|k in x and k in y}

user165474

@AdmBorkBork Oh, okay. I got them confused at first too. :P

user165474

Is there an operation for x ∪ y - x ∩ y?

ETHproductions

That would be an XOR of sorts, I don't know if there's a real name or symbol for it though

Trying to figure out how vectorization will work in Crayon... operators such as +, -, etc. have dedicated uses on arrays due to the scarcity of operators (I've only got 127 to work with, and a good chunk of those are dedicated to output manipulation)

user165474

14:28

@ETH Symmetric Difference

user165474

Symmetric difference

In mathematics, the symmetric difference, also known as the disjunctive union, of two sets is the set of elements which are in either of the sets and not in their intersection. The symmetric difference of the sets A and B is commonly denoted by A △ B , {\displaystyle A\,\triangle \,B,} or A ⊖ B , {\displaystyle A\ominus B,} or A ⊕ B . {\displaystyle A\oplus B.} For example, t...

ETHproductions

Oh, got it

So I think I'm going to have a char (e.g. V) that vectorizes the next operator

e.g. 2[1 2 3]* = [1 2 3 1 2 3], but 2[1 2 3]V* = [2 4 6]

likewise, [1 2 3][2 3 4]V* = [2 6 12]

But then the problem becomes, what if you want to vectorize the number in the first example (create a range out of it), or not vectorize the first array in the second example?

So perhaps I need two dedicated chars, one that vectorizes only the one argument and another that vectorizes both

(by "not vectorize the first array", I mean [1 2][3 4]V* = [[1 2 1 2 1 2][1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2]])

Business Cat

CJam accomplishes just that with . and f

ETHproductions

Hmm, are there existing golfing langs that don't vectorize operators by default?

@BusinessCat I'll take a look and see how that works

Business Cat

Try it online

Err it's not quite right

Fixed

AdmBorkBork

14:38

@ETHproductions related (not a Rickroll)

ETHproductions

@BusinessCat So f vectorizes the ~~top~~ second item, and . vectorizes both?

Matthew Roh

I would love a programming language which messes with some set theory

Business Cat

f is "map with an extra parameter." So it runs the operator for each element in the first array, using the second as a whole as another parameter (you actually don't have to give two arrays).

Fatalize

@ETHproductions Brachylog doesn't

Anonymous

@ETHproductions Actually doesn't

Matthew Roh

14:41

Also a json based lang which is just stack based but json would be awesome

Anonymous

♂ and ♀ are the unary and binary vectorize combinators, respectively

ETHproductions

Do they work like I was describing, or more like CJam's f and .?

@BusinessCat Hmm, interesting. And it doesn't seem like CJam automatically creates a range out of a number, unlike many modern langs

Matthew Roh

I would like a C&R which the cops erase one fifth of the code

LliwTelracs

That was an option in the change the code change the sequence

I am finding it difficult to make a language which requires a conjecture to be true in order to be turing complete.

Business Cat

@ETHproductions It does for mapping and filtering

Downgoat

14:47

@ETHproductions when you say this do you mean [1,2,3] + 1 =/= [1,2,3].map(i => i + 1)?

Business Cat

But nothing else

ETHproductions

Oh, cool

@Downgoat That's what I mean

(sorry, didn't notice the =/=)

@BusinessCat This reminds me, I don't believe I have a filter command yet

Matthew Roh

Upcoming challenge: Maximum level entertainment (which is known as bubble-wraps) simulator!

ETHproductions

15:05

Filter's going to be more difficult because Crayon has no concept of functions, everything's traditional control flow

So I have to add in a specific character to initiate a filter loop

On the one hand, F...} would save a byte over {...}F (as if {...} defined a function), but on the other hand, you can't reuse F for other purposes with other types

Downgoat

@ETHproductions well you could look for a closing } and match it up with the previous f

ETHproductions

That's what I do already with the other control flow chars

The point is that if Crayon used functions instead of control flow, it'd be a byte longer each time you do if, while, map, etc., but you could also reuse those chars for other purposes

Downgoat

15:37

TBH I don't think shortage of chars would be problem

AdmBorkBork

@Downgoat Read this as chairs and was very confused for a moment.

Anonymous

As someone who has created a single-byte-command stack-based lang, shortage of chars doesn't really happen

ETHproductions

@Mego The main problem here is that I only have 127 bytes to assign, rather than 256

(Long story short, I wanted to minimize encoding problems and allow for UTF-8, ISO-8859-1, and any other ASCII-compatible encoding)

And a good chunk of these are taken up by output manipulation commands

I think I have 9 or 10 unassigned bytes atm

Anonymous

15:54

Sounds like you need more overloads

ETHproductions

More usable bytes, that is?

Or more commands that do different things depending on the type of the top item(s)?

Anonymous

The latter

ETHproductions

I'm trying to incorporate as many as possible

One command I'm currently considering changing is #, which is supposed to push the length of the stack

That doesn't sound like something that would pop up very often though

Anonymous

I use # for the length of iterables

Anonymous

Space is the length of the stack. That way, just like in regular golfing, if you're using whitespace, you know you're doing it wrong.

AdmBorkBork

16:01

haha

I think I'm planning to use # as Execute the rest of this line as if it were PowerShell so I can get the full benefits of .NET in my language.

ETHproductions

@Mego LOL, nice. I'm planning to have space and newline as no-ops so that you can expand programs and still have them work properly

Do you have a no-op command at all? Sometimes you have to push two number literals, you know

Anonymous

@ETHproductions ? is a noop

Anonymous

Plus any byte that doesn't have a command attached, or any command that is inappropriate

Anonymous

But numeric literals are handled without noops

Anonymous

5:12:13 pushes 5, then 12, then 13

ETHproductions

16:06

Hmm, what does the : do? Is it parsed as part of the literal?

Anonymous

It's a prefix for a numeric literal. When the parser comes across it, it consumes the longest consecutive chain of bytes in 0123456789+-.eij that evaluate to a numeric literal, and pushes that value

ETHproductions

Gotcha. Does a digit without a : just push itself then?

Anonymous

Yep

betseg

which hand do you use strawpoll.me/12492628

ETHproductions

+1 byte for multibyte literals, -1 byte for pushing multiple digits. That's an interesting tradeoff

Have you found it to generally work to your advantage?

Anonymous

16:12

@ETHproductions Yep, thanks to the prevalence of numeric commands. There are a lot of ways to push larger values that are shorter than the literals.

Anonymous

nth prime, nth fib, 10**n, 2**n, n**2, n*2, etc

Matthew Roh

I had an idea of a stack based lang, but the stack is a json object

ETHproductions

@Mego Huh, cool

PhiNotPi

Software recommendation question: is there some software that allows me to define a custom algebraic structure? As in, something that can do symbolic manipulation with custom manipulation rules?

ETHproductions

@MatthewRoh How would that work?

AdmBorkBork

16:15

@PhiNotPi I'm sure Mathematica has a built-in. ;-)

Anonymous

@PhiNotPi Sage, maybe. Mathematica probably.

AdmBorkBork

Maple might.

Matthew Roh

@ETHproductions Unsure yet

Anonymous

Sage is pretty powerful, but it's also a WIP funded by research grants so there's a lot of stuff that either doesn't work right or is incomplete

PhiNotPi

I have Mathematica, and I know there's a way to create "operators" that perform some function, but the difference here is that there's no underlying function that the operator is equivalent to (it's simply its own function).

Matthew Roh

16:22

@ETHproductions Probs pushing an element by [data]; and accessing them with [index]|, and accessing their property with [index]> (ex. ˋ1>"Hello, World!";ˋ adds "Hello, World!" in stack on index 1 or something)

à

Ah, darnit, I shouldn't have bought a chinese bluetooth keyboard.

AdmBorkBork

@PhiNotPi I'm pretty sure that Maple can do what you're asking, but I've never personally used Maple, so I can't say for certain.

Martin might know.

Christopher Peart

Sigh... I am so close to another privilege but the Review que is always empty

I am thinking of making a snake challenge in Conway game of life

Idk if it would ever be answered but I think it would be simpler then tetris

AdmBorkBork

@PhiNotPi DSkoog seems to work for Maple. Might be able to ping him at his site.

Matthew Roh

@ChristopherPeart Hell nah, 'cause that would be extremely lame because the slow speed of the LWSS makes the input lag

Christopher Peart

@MatthewRoh lwss?

Matthew Roh

16:32

Lightweight spaceship

Christopher Peart

Hm

Matthew Roh

Also, there isn't an easy way to get click inputs

Christopher Peart

yes there is

That is how you MAKE it in the first place

Unless you have a odd one

Matthew Roh

It's not easy to make a click input, nor an LWSS generator which sends LWSSs to the main system when click input is given

Christopher Peart

the point of the challenge is not to be easy

but to be more easy

Matthew Roh

16:38

'more easy' grammar. duh.

Christopher Peart

that is not the point

Matthew Roh

right

ETHproductions

TFW you find an amazing golf and it turns out exactly the same length as the original

Christopher Peart

The point is a challange

AdmBorkBork

@ETHproductions Oh, I love doing that.

Matthew Roh

16:41

BTW, it has click inputs, moving cells, so what's so different from tetris in GoL?

Christopher Peart

@MatthewRoh Tetris is a different game and MUCH harder

to write

Matthew Roh

Oh well, noone has solved any of them yet, then can you truly define the difficulty?

Christopher Peart

yes

Matthew Roh

Oh really? prove it.

Christopher Peart

Go write a tetris game

then go write a snake game

Anyways I am tired of this debate. I have a challenge to write.

Matthew Roh

16:44

I have a challenge to write too.

Christopher Peart

Well have fun

Matthew Roh

I am just not doing it now

but just giving away a bit of spoilers

Bubble wraps are extremely fun

Christopher Peart

yes

that is like saying Jelly is a pain

Matthew Roh

uhh

what?

I meant that for a spoiler for my new challenge.

Christopher Peart

Are we talking about different bubble wrap?

I am talking about the fun kind

Matthew Roh

16:46

Yes, bubble wrap irl

ETHproductions

@MatthewRoh I think Chris means it's an obvious fact that bubble wrap is extremely fun

Mistah Figgins

@ChristopherPeart is there a different kind?

Christopher Peart

@MistahFiggins Idk

Business Cat

@MistahFiggins Unpoppable bubble wrap exists

Matthew Roh

@MistahFiggins No, unless they make a new esolang called 'bubble wrap' where you make program with popped and non-popped bubble wrap cells

Christopher Peart

16:48

@BusinessCat WHAT DEVILISH THING IS THAT

bubble wrap github.com/projectatomic/bubblewrap

Matthew Roh

Oh. Literally didn't expect that.

btw speaking of bubble wraps I want to make an esolang dedicated to bubble wraps

Popped bubble wrap cells are ˋXˋ, Non-popped ones are ˋOˋ, you make programs with them

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Q: Sign change, loop and display

Input: Two integers (one negative, and one positive). Output: On the first line output lowest to highest; on the second line we've removed the highest and lowest numbers and sign-changed all individual numbers; on the third line we've removed the highest and lowest numbers again and sign-chang...

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ETHproductions

Wow, really, a 100-minute delay?

Christopher Peart

@NewMainPosts go home u dwunk

Matthew Roh

Probs XXX is <, OXX is >, and goes on for every BF functions

ETHproductions

16:56

Also, why does the suggested edit to that post not show up in the review queue

Matthew Roh

Huh, weird

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

We have a working game of Tetris with Conway's Game of Life (from now on it will be known as CGL). That however has no answer and I think a slightly easier challenge is due. The challenge Make a working Snake game. The grid must be at least 20 by 20 (size may be bigger). It must have death when...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Painter's Partition Problem Description You have to paint N boards of length {A0, A1, A2, A3 … AN-1}. There are K painters available and you are also given how much time a painter takes to paint 1 unit of board. You have to get this job done as soon as possible under the constraints that any pa...

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Any Windows Server 2012 R2 gurus here?

Matthew Roh

Err, not me

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