The Nineteenth Byte

mınxomaτ

6:02 AM

Rofl, Tavis is trashing CloudFlare at this point: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13727279

Helka Homba

@WheatWizard I really find 5s more confusing than 5's

Wheat Wizard

Ok I thought that they were possesive for a second but if you think it is better the other way around by all means.

Kritixi Lithos

I see I have been ninja'd

Helka Homba

@WheatWizard No. For clarity as english.stackexchange.com/a/56010/90504 suggests

Though I agree it can be confusing either way

Wheat Wizard

It might be better to spell out the number e.g. fives

Destructible Watermelon

6:19 AM

hello

I'm implementing respawning now

Qwerp-Derp

Guess the next element in this sequence: 1, 6, 78, 1020, 15620, 279930, 5764794

Destructible Watermelon

much tempted to put it in oeis...

Qwerp-Derp

But you don't know the rule :P

I'm thinking of making a challenge for this but it might be too easy

in terms of codegolf that is

Conor O'Brien

looks kind of like factorials

Helka Homba

@Qwerp-Derp is it related to my recent challenge?

Qwerp-Derp

6:24 AM

@HelkaHomba Nope

obarakon

@HelkaHomba Should I bother posting a solution if my formula only works on test-cases 2,3,4,5 (so far)?

This is regarding your latest challenge

Helka Homba

@obarakon No. Incomplete answers are never valid. And surely getting N = 1 to work should be no issue?

obarakon

@HelkaHomba Ok, thanks. I'll work on it some more. Nice challenge by the way.

Helka Homba

I can understand if you're hitting int.max limitations perhaps, but I'd say at least up to N = 8 should be working

DJMcMayhem

@HelkaHomba haha! Just found two heads simply by chopping down a tree :D

Qwerp-Derp

6:32 AM

@DJMcMayhem What game?

Helka Homba

@Qwerp-Derp I cheated, but shouldn't the first number be 0 not 1?

@Qwerp-Derp Minecraft chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/52643/open-ppcg-minecraft-server

Qwerp-Derp

@HelkaHomba I was kinda thrown off by the "head from tree" thing

@HelkaHomba It should be 1

What sequence did you have in mind @HelkaHomba?

Helka Homba

@Qwerp-Derp spoilers

Qwerp-Derp

@HelkaHomba Huh, did not expect that

The way I generated the sequence was different

mınxomaτ

Did anyone here ever use HHVM and php-fpm in prod and can talk about performance gains if any?

wat

6:41 AM

@DJMcMayhem yeah I've found heads in holes and in furnaces

DLosc

Question. For Turing-completeness, I know that I/O is not needed. To confirm: this means that in the Fewest distinct characters challenge, I don't have to count characters that would be needed to read or hardcode input, right? Even though it's impossible to make a program that actually does anything without at least hardcoding the input?

wat

@mınxomaτ I use php-fpm, it's pretty neat

It is the native way to use php with nginx

mınxomaτ

I know, that wasn't the question.

The point is: Did you also use HHVM and how did performance compare to php-fpm.

obarakon

@HelkaHomba I have 1-6 working. I should have a solution by tomorrow.

Helka Homba

@mınxomaτ People are more likely to answer if you put your question in the form of a CMC ;)

Qwerp-Derp

6:53 AM

Well that sequence thing was a disappointment

DLosc

@HelkaHomba CMC: For Turing-completeness, can I leave out characters needed to read or hardcode input? :P

Destructible Watermelon

How can I prevent class variables in my koth apart from just asking people not to?

DLosc

@DestructibleWatermelon You're doing it in Python, right?

Destructible Watermelon

yup

DLosc

Unless you want to delve into metaclasses, I'd say "just ask people not to." Python is not designed to prevent people from meddling in stuff.

Destructible Watermelon

7:02 AM

ok

TBH I might browse a couple mins before giving up

@DLosc actually, couldn't I make a thing that gets a list of a things attributes and take it from there or something?

Qwerp-Derp

Dammit my sequences are all bland and unoriginal :(

DLosc

@DestructibleWatermelon Too much use of the word "thing," could not understand. :P Rephrase please?

Destructible Watermelon

@DLosc if I use Class.__dict__.keys(), that might help somewhat

however I guess they could still just redefine Class.__dict__...

actually that might not work

yeah I'll just ask them not to

huh... weird. not sure if buffer issue makes two lines at a time output, or that there is major bug

ok its not the buffer

Destructible Watermelon

7:31 AM

strange

ok wat now the bots are being generated on the wrong side of the map

wat

7:48 AM

@DestructibleWatermelon Why would I care?

Destructible Watermelon

oh I get it now

wat

Notch, the creator of Minecraft, made this: doodle.notch.net/unmandelboxing/withsound.html

Destructible Watermelon

more list referencing bs

ATaco

8:00 AM

@DLosc The idea of "Input" doesn't need to exist at all, but you probably need a way to set a thing to a particular value anyway.

betseg

8:11 AM

@wat what's that

wat

@betseg idk

mınxomaτ

OK, so im my application, HHVM is consistently about 10 to 15 % faster than php-fpm on Ubuntu 16.10.

But it needs >1G of RAM.

mınxomaτ

8:35 AM

Sorry, I meant 16.04.

Destructible Watermelon

9:21 AM

getting bitten by list referencing again

Mandelbox

In mathematics, the mandelbox is a fractal with a boxlike shape found by Tom Lowe in 2010. It is defined in a similar way to the famous Mandelbrot set as the values of a parameter such that the origin does not escape to infinity under iteration of certain geometrical transformations. The mandelbox is defined as a map of continuous Julia sets, but, unlike the Mandelbrot set, can be defined in any number of dimensions. As a result, it is an example of a multifractal system. It is typically drawn in three dimensions for illustrative purposes. == Generation == The iteration applies to vector ...

the thing is called unmandelboxing

betseg

I only saw some pixels flying around and didn't give attention to the URL, thanks for explaining

Destructible Watermelon

I actually only just figured that out myself actually :P

Albert Renshaw

That unmandleboxing thing is cool; After a loooong time it seems it's using the Shepard Tone, an Auditory illusion (like optical illusion but for ears) to make the sound seem like it's constantly lowering without it ever actually decreasing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone

betseg

9:55 AM

gist.github.com/betseg/290a802a7799d6c8fe9f117ef48e6586 what do you think about my language idea

Qwerp-Derp

I might make a domino calculator with memory if I have enough dominoes and enough time

I can make a 1-bit adder which takes one input after the other, which is cool :)

Qwerp-Derp

10:13 AM

@MartinEnder I saw your domino circuit thing, and the controller - can you add sideways dominoes in the thing as well?

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg -1 not enough verboseness :P

betseg

what would you add to it?

Kritixi Lithos

jk

betseg

ik i was jk 2

Kritixi Lithos

Have you started work on the interpreter?

betseg

11:02 AM

@KritixiLithos yes

Kritixi Lithos

GH link?

betseg

it isnt on gh yet

Kritixi Lithos

What lang is the interpreter written in?

betseg

python

Kritixi Lithos

I sorta hoped it would be in a verbose language like Java...

betseg

11:32 AM

actually i can make a self interpreter

Kritixi Lithos

Huh? What's that mean?

betseg

an NAGL interpreter written in NAGL

Kritixi Lithos

How does that even work?

betseg

like pypy

Kritixi Lithos

I would really like to see the interpreter once you put it on GH

betseg

11:53 AM

i'll put the first version that supports io on gh

TuxCopter

12:28 PM

Hai

Christopher Peart

12:47 PM

hai

@betseg I would golf in that

TuxCopter

»  spyder
...
ImportError: Spyder requires PySide or PyQt to be installed
...
»  pip install --upgrade PyQt5
Requirement already up-to-date: PyQt5 in c:\users\-\appdata\local\programs\python\python35-32\lib\site-packages
Requirement already up-to-date: sip>=4.19.1 in c:\users\-\appdata\local\programs\python\python35-32\lib\site-packages (from PyQt5)

What the hell

Kritixi Lithos

Something that is made up of glass and comes in rectangular shapes in sets of fours arranged in a square

Christopher Peart

What???

TuxCopter

Huh?

Kritixi Lithos

and are coloured red, green, blue and yellow

Windows

TuxCopter

12:53 PM

Oh

Christopher Peart

Are you taking some sort of hallucinogenic?

TuxCopter

Wait, spyder was somehow installed incorrectly

Kritixi Lithos

I don't remember eating any corpses of moulds

TuxCopter

And everything was out of date

Christopher Peart

@KritixiLithos Exactly

TuxCopter

1:00 PM

Now spyder says me stderr duplication failed

I think it's drunk

betseg

1:32 PM

TFW you solved the problem and closed 20 tabs <3

7

Riker

bad answer nuke pls

betseg

flag->spam?

Riker

don't flag as spam, but you can flag as rude or abusive

@betseg SE's definition of spam is only for commercial advertisements.

it qualifies as rude or abusive if it's nonsense

betseg

oh ok

Riker

thanks @mınxomaτ

Sherlock9

1:45 PM

Hello

Riker

o/

Sherlock9

Is there a golfier way, for a number M, to write (M%2+2-M) other than what I just wrote?

Something with bitwise operators perhaps?

Christopher Peart

Installing userscripts again

Riker

@Sherlock9 hm

what language?

Sherlock9

Python at the moment

I was looking at my aesthetic divisor tree answer again

Riker

1:49 PM

py2 or py3?

you might be able to abuse the floor division

@Sherlock9 just as a note, it's also equal to (M/2+1)*2-M

not any golfier though

Sherlock9

My code could work in either. Python 2 is slightly golfier already with the divisions I have

Riker

hm okay

@Sherlock9 yeah, I can't think of any way to golf that

Sherlock9

Well, the suggestion to move to Python 2 works well enough, even if it was accidental. Thanks :D

Riker

:D

Christopher Peart

That looked bad

Riker

2:02 PM

@flawr en.reddit.com/r/finlandConspiracy

> The Finland conspiracy states that Finland is not a real country. Not only is it not a real country but there is actually no landmass there at all, and the space between Sweden and Russia is actually empty ocean.

betseg

2:27 PM

my first actual interpreter :D \o/

Riker

nice!

betseg

(interprets only headers and function definitions)

Christopher Peart

2:47 PM

I have stars on one of my comments! I may die happy now

betseg

2:59 PM

class qwe:
    ewq = []
    def func():
        ewq.append("qwe")

NameError: name 'ewq' is not defined

my google-fu skills had to come to an end

help plz

Leo

def func(self):
    self.ewq.append("qwe")

this should work

or did you want to make a static function?

betseg

@Leo function takes other args, do i have to call like (i dont know what its called) func(a=b, c=d)?

docs.python.org/3/tutorial/…

oh

it exists in the docs

Leo

Ok, I was typing an explanation but that's it :)

betseg

can you ctrl+z :P TypeError: func() missing 1 required positional argument: 'self' what do i do ;-;

Sherlock9

3:21 PM

You put self as the first argument and every other argument after

muddyfish

@betseg I think that will work if at the beginning of func, you add nonlocal ewq

I'm not sure if that's what you actually want

betseg

yeah i have almost no history with python and i just assumed from what i read from stackoverflow (yes i know best way to assume stuff) that imported thing should be in classes. it appears that that dont. i just removed everything from class and it works now

muddyfish

@betseg I have no idea what you're saying

betseg

i read stuff on SO. i assumed from what i read that if something is imported, it has to be in a class. it's not. i un-classed functions and variables and stuff, it works now.

i assumed that because imported things, even if they arent in a class, are written like qwe.ewq. i think that assumption wasnt so strange? :)

Sherlock9

3:45 PM

@Mego, can you give me a recap of what's happened to Actually since around October? I just remembered that I'm still supposed to be writing docs at some point :D

New Main Posts

-1

Q: Iteration problem in Mathematica

I was told that my questions below (copied from Mathematica community) was off topic and that it more suits to be put here. So, if you think I can get answer here then it is much appreciated, it is fine otherwise. Question I am learning Mathematica because I love it. I also love solving puz...

puzzle-solver

New Sandboxed Posts

5:14 PM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is this bitstring divisible by 3? code-golf binary string decision-problem Your challenge is to write a program or function that, given a string of bits representing a positive integer, outputs or returns a truthy value if it's divisible by 3, and a falsy value otherwise. Rules You may not...

Downgoat

CMC: golf max(0, 2 - n)

ETHproductions

I don't think that would be any shorter than max(0,2-n) in most languages

muddyfish

@Downgoat is n an integer? what range does it have?

ETHproductions

Or n=>n>2?2-n:0 in JS

Downgoat

@muddyfish it's float >0

ETHproductions

5:19 PM

Do you have a super sneaky method of doing it in some language or are you just asking?

TuxCopter

@Downgoat 2-n&(-1>>1), C, assuming it's an integer

I'm not sure about the precedence of - and & though

ETHproductions

- should be executed before &

TuxCopter

Then it's that

The parentheses around the shift aren't even needed if I'm correct, so -2 bytes

ETHproductions

Yeah, the & has the lowest precedence so both sides get executed first

Source

Christopher Peart

In TIBASIC it would be 6-7 bytes

TuxCopter

5:23 PM

Wait a second nvm

This bit magic would only uberbork the number if it's negative

I guess a ternary is the best possible

muddyfish

6 mins ago, by Downgoat

@muddyfish it's float >0

ETHproductions

Wait a second, I had mine backwards: I think it's n=>n>2?0:2-n

muddyfish

TNB: where you can go to get your "please write me teh code" questions answered

ETHproductions

In Japt, you can do 0w2-U, 0wUn2, or n2 w0 for 5 bytes

Jelly's probably 3 or 4 bytes

TuxCopter

Nah, Jelly would easily somehow have a negative number of bytes

DJMcMayhem

5:26 PM

2-0hX> in MATL I believe

Kritixi Lithos

@TuxCopter Nah, it will probably be something very high from all the underflowing

ETHproductions

Best I can do in Jelly is _@2»0

I take that back: C‘»0

Jelly's motto: There's always a shorter way

DJMcMayhem

CMC: print one of the distinct outputs depending on whether the sum of the even digits or the odd digits are larger, or if they're equal.

muddyfish

@DJMcMayhem of a list?

DJMcMayhem

Of an integer

For example, 123 ---> odd, 153 ---> even 143 ---> equal

Sorry, forgot they could be equal

ETHproductions

5:33 PM

Even digits meaning the digits that are even, or the digits in even indices?

DJMcMayhem

The digits in even indices

Sorry if I'm not explaining very well

ETHproductions

And must we start with the unit digit at index 1, or can the left-most digit be index 1?

DJMcMayhem

Left most probably

Christopher Peart

Potato

potato

Anyone want to write a chat bot?

Cuz it is hard

:P

Thomas Ward

@ChristopherPeart yes, it most definitely is heh

ETHproductions

5:37 PM

I can't find an "every Nth item of X" builtin in Jelly

Never mind, I found a shorter solution: Dḅ-Ṡ

Prints 1 for odd, -1 for even, 0 for equal

Christopher Peart

I can't figure out how to write one for SE chatrooms

ETHproductions

I have a basic JS one here

muddyfish

@ETHproductions I found it golfier to chunk into groups of 2 and then transpose. However Pyke doesn't have a get_sign method

ETHproductions

Well then, sounds like something to add

muddyfish

probably

ETHproductions

5:44 PM

BTW, @Chris, if you're going to test chatbots, please do it in another room

Christopher Peart

I will make a private room at first

Then move to SOBotics

Thomas Ward

@ChristopherPeart consider the 'ChatExchange' framework, if you're OK with python lol

Christopher Peart

@ThomasWard that is what i am using

muddyfish

@ChristopherPeart chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/30332/beep-boop-maggot will be fine

Christopher Peart

Just working on figuring how it works

ETHproductions

5:45 PM

@muddyfish Actually no, that's a gallery room now (only quartata and Laffy can use it)

Christopher Peart

(Need to detect pings)

Thomas Ward

@ChristopherPeart yeah it's not easy, I'm still learning everything with it, but working on the SmokeDetector project has helped a little heh

Christopher Peart

It will be super simple

I just need it to run a python file when pinged and print the output

TuxCopter

@ETHproductions o_O

quartata

> He discovered one of the worst private information leaks in the history of the internet, and for that, he won the highest reward in their bug bounty: a Cloudflare t-shirt.

truly honored

ETHproductions

6:06 PM

Now I'm envisioning a video game where you slay the dragon, save the princess, and get a t-shirt as your reward

2

Conor O'Brien

"receives t-shirt is... is that all? I was expecting, um..." "Yes, mr. hero?" "I dunno... something substantial?" "Naw. Enjoy your t-shirt." "But--" "We can take the shirt away, you know!" "...okay."

quartata

@TuxCopter It's temporary.

I'm trying to make something to enforce people to watch their bots.

Erik the Outgolfer

@quartata Will you just reject every access request to that room? Basically, make it a rule that bots do not ping for the moment (i.e. do not contain ^:\d+\b or \b@.*\b).

Another idea would be to make the room a gallery and ban bots from accessing it until they behave better. That would require individual rooms for the bots though.

Anonymous

6:30 PM

@Sherlock9 Sure, but it'll take me some time. I'm entertaining in-laws this weekend. Until I get a summary written up, the commit logs are a good place to start.

New Sandboxed Posts

6:44 PM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Write a self-validating code Write a code that takes a string as input, and outputs a truthy or falsey value depending on whether or not the string follows these rules: If you stack each character on top of each other, convert to binary and sums each column, then all the sum should be identical...

New Sandboxed Posts

7:11 PM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I copied my password to the clipboard! Can you delete it? code-golf Following the best security practices, I keep a plain text file with my passwords on my hard drive. In fact, I just copied and pasted one of them to access my PPCG account. In a lucid moment, I decide that the password should ...

Wheat Wizard

I just wanted to remind everyone that there is 600 rep up for grabs for beating my solution to this challenge.

Kritixi Lithos

 _________________________________________
/ DOS: n., A small annoying boot virus    \
| that causes random spontaneous system   |
|                                         |
| crashes, usually just before saving a   |
| massive project. Easily cured by        |
|                                         |
| UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS. |
\ (from David Vicker's .plan)             /
 -----------------------------------------

betseg

what about FreeDOS

Kritixi Lithos

Got this from my fortune | cowsay | lolcat

betseg

@KritixiLithos btw is tihs from fo

dammit ninja'd

Kritixi Lithos

7:20 PM

@betseg such spelling wow

betseg

i was typing fortune, saw you message, accidentally hit enter

Christopher Peart

7:33 PM

Get rekket

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Infinitely many Primes Since Euclid we know that there are infinitely many primes. The argument is by contradiction: If there are only finitely many, lets say "p1,p2,...,pn". Then surely "m:=p1*p2*...*pn+1" is not divisible by any of these primes, so it's primefactorization must yield a new prim...

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Are there any esolangs which are dependent on a mobile or embedded platform?

Christopher Peart

@WheatWizard I hope you did not write that all by hand

Wheat Wizard

@ChristopherPeart I only wrote about 35% of it by hand. The rest was pretty simple so I wrote a computer program to do it.

I think that is pretty standard practice for Quines.

Christopher Peart

Huh only on PPCG do people write code to write code

Also i have no idea how that even works

So that is another large bounty i will never get

Wheat Wizard

7:44 PM

There is an encoder which is a basically the same thing over and over and over. It accounts for most of the code. You basically write a single line of code to multiply a string by a fixed number.

Conor O'Brien

@ChristopherPeart code generation is popular among, say, templates

Luke

@ETHproductions, could you add bit-shifting to cubix?

Wheat Wizard

Does anyone know what happened to the Zipper reincarnation question? @1000000000 and I were almost done with a solution and the question seems to have disapeared.

0 '

8:01 PM

@WheatWizard Here's the link to it but I'm getting 404 now: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/51039/…

Kritixi Lithos

That's because it's deleted

Wheat Wizard

@Community why?

I was about to answer it

Christopher Peart

On milky way (language) how do i get the input from the commandline?

Conor O'Brien

this language?

Christopher Peart

yes

@ConorO'Brien i can't find anything on that

Conor O'Brien

8:13 PM

It's prolly not possible

Christopher Peart

Then why does it say you give input with commandline?

TuxCopter

@WheatWizard It's undeleted now

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Does anyone know of an esolang that runs on an emedded or mobile platform?

TuxCopter

@RohanJhunjhunwala There is none AFAIK

Wheat Wizard

@TuxCopter yay

TuxCopter

8:15 PM

@Rohan You can make SILOS Mobile

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@TuxCopter ok, well Ima make the first.

@TuxCopter it has a rather unfortunate acronym

Simple Android Developement

SAD

TuxCopter

@0 'How did you mess this much with your username

Conor O'Brien

@0 '

wtf lol

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@0' wow

TuxCopter

Let's stop pinging him

2

The scrolling of my browser borked so much when I send a message I'm scrolled to the right

0 '

8:22 PM

@TuxCopter Though it does not show it it is actually a 0 followed by some large number of tabs, followed by an '

Christopher Peart

wow

New Meta Posts

0

Q: Improving the Restricted Source tag

restricted-source is a fairly popular tag with just about 200 questions at the time of posting. It also has a pretty minimal description: Imposes a restriction on the source code used to solve the challenge, for example, having no numbers in the source code. While short tag description can...

@0 ' what??

@o "

@NewMetaPosts @WheatWizard I edited the tag wiki a year or so back to try to add some words of caution to it

But I agree it needs a full revamp

Christopher Peart

8:39 PM

I need more rep. Not for any real reason... just so i can post more bounties :P

New Bounties With No Deadlines

0

A: List of bounties with no deadline

50 rep for cracking my anagram quine My answer has yet to be cracked (in about a day of being up) I played a few dirty tricks to make it as hard as possible. Is it also quite long. To get the bounty I would like a clever crack that has a good explanation. If another person answers and has a cra...

ETHproductions

My word... Firefox apparently takes a full minute to load the editor for a 23000-byte answer. I don't remember that happening in the past

Pavel

8:59 PM

Switch to Chrome

New Main Posts

2

Q: Write a self-validating code

Write a code that takes a string as input, and outputs a truthy or falsey value depending on whether or not the string follows these rules: If you stack each character on top of each other, convert to binary and sums each column, then all the sum should be identical. You may assume the input str...

code-golf restricted-source binary

ETHproductions

Also, does TNB have a horizontal scrollbar for anyone else? There's an awful lot of space to the right of the message boxes

ETHbot

Hmm, it doesn't in Chrome

ETHproductions

Maybe I should switch :P

Pavel

@ETHproductions No

TuxCopter

9:03 PM

@ETHproductions That's because I posted @0 ' full name in a monospace block, which uberborked

So it's my fault :/

Pavel

Who is this ETHbot?

TuxCopter

It's ETHprod's bot

Pavel

But what is it doing here?

ETHproductions

I'm logged on to the ETHbot account by default in Chrome

0 '

@TuxCopter Can confirm, I do not have a horizontal scroll bar in other chat rooms

Pavel

9:06 PM

Y'all need to stop using Firefox.

0 '

@Pavel Chrome just doesn't have as good a selection of plugins though

Pavel

It mostly does now.

0 '

@Pavel Let me know when NoScript or an equivalent is available for Chrome

Pavel

@0 ' chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scriptsafe/… ?

0 '

@Pavel Hmm... looks pretty good actually, however it also turns out that Chrome does not support my operating system anymore

Pavel

9:14 PM

What operating system do you have if it's not supported by chrome?

0 '

@Pavel Mac OS X <10.9

Conor O'Brien

@Pavel and what do you use? Chrome? Pssh.

Pavel

Yes

@0 ' Update your computer while you're at it, 10.9 came out back in 2014 >_>

0 '

@Pavel I don't like the newer Mac OS X

muddyfish

@Pavel what's wrong with firefox?

Pavel

9:20 PM

@muddyfish Apparently something @TuxCopter posted in chat made it appear weird for FF users, leading to my offhand suggestion that everyone should use chrome instead, leading to the present discussion.

Wheat Wizard

@0 ' Don't you have 10.6?

0 '

@WheatWizard Yup

Pavel

That's like... last decade...

0 '

@Pavel TBH, I do use Chrome sometimes because it lets me watch Netflix on Linux

Pavel

Personally, I've never been able to stand using an outdated version of anything. I always sign up for all the betas and early access programs and try to keep everything as up to date as possible.

Wheat Wizard

9:23 PM

IMO OSX really went downhill after 10.6

Pavel

I don't use Macs so I wouldn't know.

0 '

If I want to use the most up to date version of something that does not support 10.6 I usually get the windows version and run it with wine

Pavel

Chrome under wine sounds nasty though.

0 '

@Pavel Yeah, I only run programs with wine if I really have to or if they don't run on linux natively anyway

Pavel

The only things I use wine for are games.

Everything else generally either runs natively or has a sufficient replacement.

Except MS Office, which I would absolutely love to have, but I can't get it to run on Wine anyway.

0 '

9:27 PM

@Pavel Sometimes I need wine to run certain programs required for class

Other than that I mostly use for games as well

Pavel

Oh, for those I just use my school-issued laptop, tbh.

Not worth the effort of getting LoggerPro or whatever running on my computer.

> TFW man python makes your computer hang up for some reason

Wheat Wizard

I had to use LoggerPro for physics last year, and I hated it so much that I had my lab partner record all of the data on his computer and send it to me so that I could open them as plaintext and extract the data without having to open LoggerPro.

Pavel

My sentiments exactly.

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Ultimatum Game You and a (not so) friendly bot have a chance to play a game. There is 100 dollars on the table. One person, suggests a split, and the other can accept the split, or force each individual to accept absolutely nothing. You will alternate being able to give the ultimatum for a subst...

Pavel

I toughed it out with LoggerPro since that was the only way I could have my computer open in class though.

DJMcMayhem

9:39 PM

@WheatWizard You're in college, right? What year are you in?

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem I am a sophomore

Christopher Peart

When you need upvotes so when you have to give a bounty you won't lose rep :P

Transcript for