The Nineteenth Byte

Laikoni

17:03

Ah, so 1000 is the full bar

with only so few reviews it looked like the progress on both bars is the same

Riker

ah

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Q: Kicked from TNB (by a bot) for "inappropriate content" and have some questions about it

https://chat.stackexchange.com/messages/35631789/history So I posted that. A few minutes later I get kicked from TNB with a 30 minute ban. I noticed a bot did it. How did a bot judge that one picture was worthy of kicking me from chat? I just am super confused how that happened. I understand if...

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Riker

@Luke yes 10/10 explanation

flawr

17:19

Omg, why has this so many stars????

I cannot believe somebody would actually agree with this guy.

Riker

it's funny

@flawr I do

pineapple is an abomination

Erik the Outgolfer

@flawr Because it's just 10/10 hilarious.

Riker

well I don't think it should be outlawed but a room 101 for pineapple lovers would be good

for anybody looking at the front page: that's all I'm editing for right now don't worry

wat

> Kawasaki - Vroom!

Pineapple pizza is actually good tho

DJMcMayhem

@flawr I like pineapple pizza. I starred cause it's hilarious

Riker

17:25

how the hell do you people eat pineapple on pizza

it's disgusting IMO

wat

@Riker WHAT

flawr

@DJMcMayhem At least one guy here with some common sense.

wat

Have you even tried Hawaiian pizza

Riker

yes

53 secs ago, by Riker

it's disgusting IMO

hawaiian pizza is literally pineapple pizza

wat

omg

no, it is pineapple and ham pizza

Riker

17:27

well yeah

but tha'ts pineapple pizza

DJMcMayhem

@Riker disgusting in general, our disgusting on pizza?

wat

ugh you people are terrible

Riker

I don't really like pineapple in general, but it's fine

but on pizza eugh

flawr

@Riker How about dried & candied pineapple?

Riker

haven't eaten in it a while so idr

wat

17:28

idr?

Riker

i do'nt remember

wat

ic

Riker

because ortho gets really really mad if I eat dried fruits because braces

wat

also AFAIK it is "don't" for "do not"

Riker

yeah

DJMcMayhem

17:29

Haha, I remember those days

Riker

@wat I have a habit of typo-ing words with apostrophes

wat

oic

DJMcMayhem

When you have to worry about certain foods cuz braces

Riker

2 mins ago, by Riker

but tha'ts pineapple pizza

like there

wat

> breezes

Laikoni

17:29

@flawr By chance I just stumbled on this: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/58784/56433

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Riker

@DJMcMayhem yeah

I get them off in 3 wks tho :D

DJMcMayhem

Nice

Riker

@Laikoni hahahaha

that's epic

flawr

@Laikoni Haha, I didn't even remember that !! XD

Riker

I mean he's completely wrong but still funny

flawr

17:31

riker-is-alex

alex-is-wrong

is-is-transitive

Riker

@flawr b-b-but senpai that is banned meme

flawr

hence-riker-is-wrong

Riker

lel

flawr

who is senpai?

DJMcMayhem

It's funny, my climbing friends go out to pizza every week after we climb, and one of them is allergic to pineapple. So my brother always gets pineapple on his pizza every single time and it's hilarious

Riker

17:32

@flawr an old meme

Erik the Outgolfer

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A: The Many Memes of PPCG

Having fun at the expense of others isn't nice, and Be nice! is Stack Exchange's prime directive. Please avoid using this meme in the future. Meme: alex-is-wrong Origin: September 9, 2015, courtesy of aditsu in chat Cultural Height: September 2015 – May 2016 Background: I don't know how t...

Riker

japanese for teacher/person you respect

DJMcMayhem

Sometimes he even gets pineapple juice for his drink

flawr

Older than alex-is-wrong?

Riker

@DJMcMayhem lol

@flawr yes

as long as anime has been around +/- 6 months

DJMcMayhem

17:33

So naturally, we give him a lot of crap about it. "Yeah, he doesn't want a pizza, please bring him a giant slice of pineapple with marinara sauce on it"

Business Cat

Nov 26 '16 at 22:10, by flawr

I mean alex-is-wrong is also not that funny anymore.

flawr

@Riker I don't know anime.

@BusinessCat Yeah, I am dead serious.

Can you say I'm deadly serious?

Riker

@flawr riker-is-wrong is the new meme

Business Cat

@Riker But if you're wrong then it's not the new meme

Erik the Outgolfer

@Riker Well, it's not, because it violates the "Be Nice!" policy.

Riker

17:36

@flawr imgur.com/gallery/bbLOM

Erik the Outgolfer

(please no comments about irony)

Riker

this is like (big version of flawr)'s job

flawr

@Riker Strange cats they have there.

@Riker what??

Riker

what?

you mean your relatives aren't komodo dragons?

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flawr

Regarding dragons, do you know the slackwyrm comic?

Riker

17:42

nope?

Luke

@Riker Thanks : )

flawr

@Riker Part a side project of joshua wright

about a lazy dragon

(i.e. the slack wyrm)

Riker

oh cool

LegionMammal978

wat

I'm trying to GDI+ but GDI+ says it's out of memory

Erik the Outgolfer

RIP ppcg.lol.

DJMcMayhem

17:45

@Riker Out of my last 42 GitHub notifications, only one of them isn't about the people's Python XD

flawr

@Riker It starts here.

Riker

@DJMcMayhem yep

sorry for the ping flood

DJMcMayhem

No worries

Riker

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r/flawr_irl

LegionMammal978

GDI+ I HAZ MEMORIEZ OKEY?!?!

Riker

17:46

@Riker cc @flawr in case you're blind

LegionMammal978

@EriktheOutgolfer What happened?

Now just about all of my links to PPCG will be broken

Riker

RIP

it probably expired

the domain

Erik the Outgolfer

It died. Try to load it. It redirects to GoDaddy.

Riker

just blank page for me

and oh come on my shitty photoshop only gets 1 star?

tnb can do better than that

LegionMammal978

^^^

Kritixi Lithos

17:47

I starred it

Erik the Outgolfer

@Riker @LegionMammal978 Yeah, that is normal GoDaddy behavior.

Riker

@KritixiLithos thanks

@flawr y u no star my masterpiece ;-;

I'd like to think he's just afk reading comics

LegionMammal978

@EriktheOutgolfer Okay, I see the GoDaddy iframe

Erik the Outgolfer

It's just that GoDaddy is a bit broken on expired domains.

DJMcMayhem

Vim (not V, vim) just outgolfed CJam, MATL, Pyth and 05AB1E at the same time.

Erik the Outgolfer

17:49

On which challenge?

Riker

all of them

DJMcMayhem

The motorcycle gear one

LegionMammal978

@DJMcMayhem Why is your username in italics?

Riker

he's a room owner now

LegionMammal978

Oh yeah that's right

Riker

17:50

he, minxomat, and mego were appointed as part of the latest round of new ROs

DJMcMayhem

Yeah, ninjad

LegionMammal978

Also, are there any plans for a translator from Python to the People's Python?

Kritixi Lithos

@DJMcMayhem I was thinking about answering that challenge, using the method you used, hours back, but I was too lazy...

LegionMammal978

It would be like the interpreter, just going the other direction

betseg

@DJMcMayhem just wait for dennis' jelly answer

DJMcMayhem

17:54

Also, Try it online! V compression. That's cool. — nmjcman101 2 mins ago

Oh wow, that's even cooler

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem I want an assignment @ People's Python. Username erik, builtin repr.

Kritixi Lithos

@DJMcMayhem I think that should be posted as a separate answer

betseg

Actually, I think that this doesn't work because going over or under the 1/6 breaks the macro :/ — nmjcman101 1 min ago

Riker

nj @DJMcMayhem 5 bytes shorter

@EriktheOutgolfer kk

Rod

@DJMcMayhem there are 2 enders?

Riker

17:59

done @EriktheOutgolfer

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem Shouldn't llh return n instead of 1? tio.run/nexus/v#@@9sZmpibJRnKJ3hoFQRVvD/f05OBgA

Riker

@Rod fixed

Erik the Outgolfer

You forgot the assignments-reversed.txt addition though.

Anyways, thanks :)

Riker

@EriktheOutgolfer yeah, I'm doing that in bursts

@Rod it was due to that being buttner and me changing it to ender bc of martin's name change, I forgot he already had one for ender

Erik the Outgolfer

Also, I don't think there should be both a Martin and an ender.

Or a chris and a jesteryoung, or an elendia and a starman, and other separate first and last names.

DJMcMayhem

18:02

@Dennis yeah.... :(

It sure would be nice if the challenge actually had test cases

Riker

@EriktheOutgolfer well there is and it's not getting changed now

tbf they both contributed significantly to the site

both were mods, and martin has the most rep of anybody on the site

so it's fair

PhiNotPi

Who owns ppcg.lol?

Riker

quill

he seems to have mostly left SE tho

last seen over a month ago

yeah, almost non-hidden site on his profile says last seen oct or dec 2016

LliwTelracs

@DJMcMayhem Could I be slice?

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis fixed. (And byte count more than doubled :/)

Riker

18:09

@LliwTelracs sure

what do you want me to put your name as?

"lliwtelracs"?

LliwTelracs

That's fine

Riker

kk

added you

Jan Dvorak

@Riker BTW, if there happens to be a shortage of keywords to name, feel free to relinquish two or three of my assignments

Riker

don't worry we've got plenty

@JanDvorak after the rest of the builtins are taken there's always modules

only sys is taken of those so far (and random is already chosen just not added)

Downgoat

Yay I restart server and SSH and HTTP break

why do server hate me :(

Riker

18:18

D:

Downgoat

Oh and that include tf2 server :'(

Poke

@Downgoat wut

Downgoat

I don't know what is happening but it's supposed to work and everything is breaking. Help

DJMcMayhem

Hmm, should I clear the "vim outgolfed xyz" stars now that it's no longer true?

Kritixi Lithos

You can clear stars as an RO?

DJMcMayhem

18:21

Yeah

Riker

@DJMcMayhem prolly :(

DJMcMayhem

It hurts twice as much to clear stars on my own messages. RIP :(

Jk, haha

Erik the Outgolfer

> twice as much

Does it really hurt to clear star abuse?

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DJMcMayhem

Uhhh, I don't know if I'd call this star abuse

Erik the Outgolfer

And, "twice as much" is compared to what?

DJMcMayhem

18:29

More just unfortunate

Kritixi Lithos

@EriktheOutgolfer It's just an expression, calm down :P

DJMcMayhem

JS question. If I have two "date" vars, is there anyway to create a third date that has the date from d1 but the time from d2?

Riker

.getDate and .getTime?

DJMcMayhem

> var d1 = new Date();
> d1
Thu Feb 23 2017 11:33:51 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
> var d2 = new Date("2017/02/22")
> d2
Wed Feb 22 2017 00:00:00 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
> d1 % 86400
44039
> var d3 = new Date(d2 + (d1 % 86400))
> d3
Wed Feb 22 2017 00:00:00 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time)

Riker

and then new Date(dateandtimehere)

@DJMcMayhem that works also

DJMcMayhem

18:40

No it doesn't.

Riker

hm wait

ah I see

oh, I can fix 1 sec

DJMcMayhem

Wed Feb 22 2017 00:00:00 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time) should be Wed Feb 22 2017 11:33:51 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time)

Riker

@DJMcMayhem try new Date((d2 - (d2 % 86400)) + (d1 % 86400))

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Tue Feb 21 2017 23:59:18 GMT-0700

Riker

that is not right mehtinks

hmm

DJMcMayhem

18:43

No, definitely not

Conclusion? JS is weird

Thomas Ward

python > js

shot

Riker

d3 = new Date(d2.getDate() + d1.getTime()) @DJMcMayhem?

does that work?

Rod

@Riker .getTime() is more like .getMsFromEpoch()

Riker

damn

DJMcMayhem

@Riker yes! It does, thanks!

Riker

18:46

:D

@DJMcMayhem as rod noted though, .getTime returns a big number of milliseconds

Kritixi Lithos

@Riker That gives me

Wed Apr 16 2064 19:40:50 GMT+0200 (CEST)

DJMcMayhem

It works somehow tough

Riker

o_O what's d1 and d2

@DJMcMayhem yeah it should

just beware if you try to use getTime somewhere else

Kritixi Lithos

The same as DJ's

Riker

[status:norepro]

Erik the Outgolfer

18:49

You mean status-norepro?

Riker

RIP [status:]

used to work

Erik the Outgolfer

I used [meta-tag:status-norepro].

Riker

yeah, I know

Thomas Ward

@Riker i'm evil but

d1 = new Date(2017, 02, 21, 18, 30, 00, 00)
d2 = new Date(2017, 02, 22, 08, 30, 00, 00)
d3 = new Date(d2.toDateString() + " "+ d1.toTimeString())

the hackish way, structure the string and create the date from that string

d1, d2, d3 in order:

Tue Mar 21 2017 18:30:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Wed Mar 22 2017 08:30:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Wed Mar 22 2017 18:30:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Poke

I just had an irc bot tell me it was in irc to steal client data so it could make change for a 20

Thomas Ward

18:55

lol

Riker

@ThomasWard why use that instead?

Rod

@DJMcMayhem
>var d1 = new Date();
>d1
Date 2017-02-23T18:52:01.510Z

>var d2 = new Date("2015/10/15")
>d2
Date 2015-10-15T03:00:00.000Z

>d1.setYear(d2.getFullYear());//d1.setYear(2015)
>d1.setMonth(d2.getMonth());//d1.setMonth(9) //yeah, month are 0 indexed
>d1.setDate(d2.getDate());//d1.setYear(15)
>d1
Date 2015-10-15T18:52:01.510Z

Thomas Ward

@Riker because I'm weird? :P

Riker

lel

Thomas Ward

Python > JS anyways for my needs

Poke

18:57

because more things than you'd think convert dates to strings while doing computation

it's a bad bucket of worms that you don't want to get into

AdmBorkBork

When automatic doors fight (GIF)

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Poke

Date libraries (even the kinda bad ones) are black magic. Treat them like the black boxes that they are and never look inside

Anonymous

@ThomasWard No, see, everyone here agrees with you

Poke

I agree that it's better for his needs

Note: I don't know his needs

Rod

@AdmBorkBork the aftermatch

Anonymous

19:02

No matter what your needs are, Python is a better choice :P

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Kritixi Lithos

@Rod That's El Giganten!

AdmBorkBork

@Rod Haha, that's funny.

Poke

@Mego Not if my needs involve having clear block delimiters (i.e. not different levels of whitespace)

Erik the Outgolfer

You don't indent your code? That's bad practice (outside golfing, that is).

RenderSettings

clearly, you need lisp

or should i say, lisp)))

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Erik the Outgolfer

19:08

That looks like a lot of Russian smilies...

Anonymous

@Poke Whitespace is perfectly clear. Also you should be doing FP, where there aren't blocks

LliwTelracs

@Mego why not Cardinal?

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19:25

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Q: Lily pad jumping

In this challenge, you need to simulate a frog jumping back and forth on lily pads. The pond is infinitely big, has a line of an infinite number of lily pads, and the frog can jump across as many lily pads as he likes. This frog likes to jump back and forth: after jumping forward, he always ...

code-golf string

Pavel

@Mego s/Python/J#

Erik the Outgolfer

You mean J#?

Poke

@Mego Not all solutions lend themselves to functional programming

and I disagree that it's clearer than guards of some sort

@EriktheOutgolfer I indent my code for readability; not for syntax

Pavel

Yes

josh951623

does anyone know stuff about bluetooth and linux?

Pavel

19:36

Bluetooth is hard ;-;

josh951623

I've done a decent amount of bluetooth, but linux is messing with me. I can't change the packet it advertises

Got a pi

LegionMammal978

You know, I suspect that Bioshock Infinite is actually referring to the length of the explanations of its plot

Anonymous

@LegionMammal978 It actually refers to the amount of disappointment

DJMcMayhem

What? That game was awesome

LegionMammal978

^

Anonymous

19:43

It was a good game, but it in no way, shape, or form matched what was promised

LegionMammal978

What was promised?

Kritixi Lithos

*cough* No man's sky *cough*

LegionMammal978

I can't even remember when it came out, much less before then

@KritixiLithos Yup, one of the least valuable $40 of my life

Anonymous

BioShock Infinite E3 2011 Teaser

►

Anonymous

Compare that trailer to the actual game

DJMcMayhem

19:45

Solution? Never buy new games. You always know if it's good or not, and you can usually get it for 5$

Kritixi Lithos

Or just play NetHack

Jan Dvorak

or Hyperrogue

Rod

@DJMcMayhem yeah, don't buy new games

DJMcMayhem

That's one way I suppose

Erik the Outgolfer

I suppose not, I have never been able to get one game in such a way...

Also, what are we discussing of again???

Nathan Merrill

19:52

I remember trying to log in to the original Command and Conquer servers a year or two back and feeling like I was knocking on the boarded-up gates of a ghost town.

DJMcMayhem

That was pretty much exactly my experience. I think I played both in 2013

AdmBorkBork

@NathanMerrill Congrats on a seemingly-simple but actually-difficult challenge.

Nathan Merrill

thanks!

What am I doing wrong?

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill For starters, you're using PHP

DJMcMayhem

@NathanMerrill using PHP.

:P

Anonymous

19:59

Hah

Nathan Merrill

not my submission :)

Anonymous

Also you're using TIO v2

Anonymous

Don't expect it to work

DJMcMayhem

@Mego great minds think alike

Jan Dvorak

@NathanMerrill you're using PHP

Kritixi Lithos

20:00

@DJMcMayhem I can think of a possible approach to Nathan's challenge in V. By using :se ve=all and interpreting the numbers as append a space or move w or b, for later numbers, (at the end you just print the number), you can replace numbers when the collide with each other. At the end you can replace all spaces with underscores

Anonymous

Use TIO Nexus and make sure you're using the correct command line args

LegionMammal978

Is it just me, or did answers.unity3d.com use some SE code?

ATaco

That, looks a lot like SE...

DJMcMayhem

@KritixiLithos Hmm, I should probably hurry up and make that :se ve=all mapping

I don't really want to try to answer it, so you go ahead

Erik the Outgolfer

Another one is lichess.

Although less like it.

Kritixi Lithos

20:02

I can't answer because I have homework due tomorrow...

ATaco

Like, it's hard to blame them, but there's some legal things there.

Nathan Merrill

stackoverflowbusiness.com/enterprise

Anonymous

@LegionMammal978 There are tons of SE lookalikes. There's a somewhat-maintained list on Mother Meta.

ATaco

Less legal issues.

Wheat Wizard

Do people think that this sandboxed post could benefit from examples? I tried to make some examples but I felt that they were either too large and made the question cluttered or were simply bad examples.

Nathan Merrill

20:09

@WheatWizard no

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20:34

Recent Questions - Programming Puzzles & Code G…: Malicious code golf [duplicate]

posted on February 23, 2017 by Santiago Benoit

This question already has an answer here: The smallest virus alert [closed] 3 answers Goal: Write a program in a language of your choice that when compiled into a file, is identified as malware/potentially unwanted by a malware scanner of your choice. Rules: …

Riker

that was fast

LliwTelracs

The new question was deleted already too

Riker

yeah

New Main Posts

20:47

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Q: Write a Programming language of Unknown Completeness

Determining whether a Language is Turing Complete is very important when designing a language. It is a also a pretty difficult task for a lot of esoteric programming languages to begin with, but lets kick it up a notch. Lets make some programming languages that are so hard to prove Turing compl...

popularity-contest language-design

Helka Homba

@PhiNotPi You tend to know musical stuff -> chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/35623643#35623643

AdmBorkBork

@HelkaHomba Darude - Sandstorm

Helka Homba

no

AdmBorkBork

:D

DJMcMayhem

It sounds very John Williams-esque

Helka Homba

20:51

I'm thinking it's a movie theme but I can't say what. Reminds me of the Great Escape or Lawrence of Arabia

Riker

ye

DJMcMayhem

Sounds like a job for

PhiNotPi

@HelkaHomba a little bit of it reminded me of Back to the Future

it very easily could be a unique piece of music written just for the intro

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