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00:10
And this one for "Best explanation"
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Now I've nominated 8. :)
I wonder why there are so few nominations for best showcase of new language
There's no jelly, no MATL, no stack cats, cubix jellyfish...
00:25
@DJMcMayhem Because everyone knows Brain-Flak is the best
@ev3commander More specifically, the final program is ~3.9487e-578 times the size of the original
@DJMcMayhem Jelly isn't new though. It participated last year
There's actually not a lot of new golfing languages
It's still included in the list because it was December
MATL too
MATL was October
Jelly was earlier, can't remember
05AB1E was made around December though.
can confirm that matl was december
Note: Whilst MATL was only released on December 12, after this challenge was posted, I came up with this answer on December 9 using a pre-release MATL compiler, which is almost identical to the released compiler, this code is the same. — David Dec 13 '15 at 23:54
At any rate, I don't mind having few nominations in that category because it gives me a better shot at taking gold. :P
00:58
@ev3commander Age of the esolangs article is October
01:23
Hello
Has there been a polyglot quine before?
02:27
@MistahFiggins More than a few. codegolf.stackexchange.com/…
@quartata @DJMcMayhem @ev3command To clarify, MATL's first version (1.0.0) was released on December 12, 2015. It was not on GitHub. It was then moved to GitHub on December 16, 2015.
Development began in September 2015, but it was not officially released until December 2015 meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/7716/36398
Anonymous
03:12
Actually may or may not qualify for 2016, depending on your POV. It is based off of Seriously, with a lot of the same code and some backwards-compatibility, but also is majorly different in a lot of ways (runs on Python 3, is a lot more efficient, implicit input, loads more commands, working on libraries and compiling). It's kinda like Python 2 vs Python 3 (which is appropriate because Seriously ran on Python 2, and Actually runs on Python 3).
Anonymous
I'm not sure which answer would be the best for showcasing Actually, though (if there is even an answer that showcases it well)
Anonymous
03:31
The only downside to the best-of competition: I see answers where I think "that deserves a bounty" but then I realize they're nominated for best-of and so I want to wait to see which posts win before I award any bounties
05:18
won a game of chess!
Playing what/whom?
AlexShu on lichess
19 moves, it was a blitz game
hooray for no mistakes
@TrojanByAccident ?
So
I recently got my phone back (couple days ago)
It had no sim card in it
was working fine
about an hour ago
was in the middle of a game
it locks me out with the Activation Lock screen
e.e
05:23
@TrojanByAccident: Please, one or two messages instead of a bunch.
one time I forgot my password because I couldn't make it what I wanted because of length limits
But now I can't use my phone at all :/
And the only "bypass" method that seems like it might work on my phone is illegal (emergency call)
at least you got it back?
Yay, I get a paperweight
Whoopee
05:28
can't you reset the phone or something?
or and get a new sim
No
I can't reset the phone because it's locked to my icloud account
... use the icloud account?
and I can't get a new sim either
@DestructibleWatermelon I have to have a sim card in, or it just tells me that I need a sim card in :/
well, that sucks
Anonymous
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Why did you VTC this as unclear?
Anonymous
I'm not trying to single you out or anything - I've just seen several close votes on the challenge for unclear, and I don't see anything unclear. Yours just happened to be one that I saw (via the review queue), and you're in chat.
That's not unclear at all
Anonymous
I agree, but several people think it is, and I'm interested in hearing their point of view.
When I'm ready to have my current version of PigeonScript on TIO, I can just ping Dennis, right?
Anonymous
05:55
Yep, preferably in the TIO room so he doesn't forget
06:29
Hello
@El'endiaStarman The point of asking "Is chat dead?" (for me, at least) is to find someone to chat with. I don't think it's necessarily noise if the reply is obvious.
Also I made a language based on sandpiles, if anyone cares (which is probably no-one)
I'm trying to make a messaging client in c# windows forms that sorta looks like iMessages. Now for the actual message boxes, I don't know how to do this. i know that I need vector graphics. With SVG ik you can like define like regions or something so since the top (rounded top) and bottom (rounded bottom) are the same always I can just change the width of the central region
how can I do this in c#?
@AshwinGupta What's C# like to program in? Or have you just started?
06:45
@Qwerp-Derp just started, I do do java though
Java is nice IMO because its very clear and easy to read.
@AshwinGupta Except for the fact that it's very verbose, Java's pretty good
public static void main
System.out.println
import java.this.is.a.really.long.import.name.please.help
Java is a little too clean
@Qwerp-Derp true. But its just so clean and easy to follow the source code (when looking at open source). I'd agree that things should be shorter though
xD
I like it but thats because I'm bad and crazy code makes my head hurt.
Orrite I published an interpreter for Sandcastle!
c# is sorta the step down from java in terms of cleanliness and readiblity from what I can tell so far. Like ex: I can do void foo(ref int bar) but even though its pass by reference now I can make sure the user understands that functionality because they have to call it with foo(ref bar);
I misread it as sadcastle lol
org.Apache.Commons.lang3.ArrayUtils
@Pavel That is beautiful
If I ever make a language, it will be like this
Apache commons Lang has a few more nested sub modules, buy I forgot what they're called.
06:57
Do you guys think Sandcastle is TC?
Something to do with the internet iirc
07:37
Java can write some things concisely, for example, a 2d int array is just int[][]. Wait, you wanted a list? ArrayList<ArrayList<Integer>>
And you'll need an import for that.
@Downgoat have a stop button to stop execution in your tio
07:58
@KritixiLithos you can push the run button again
The goat ping should have tipped me off.
@Qwerp-Derp do you have a spec/doc for sandcastle?
@Pavel static import can be used to shorten a lot of java code if you are careful
example
static import java.lang.Math;
random()
cos()
sin()
etc.
Finally, I met someone who approves of static imports ^-^
08:30
@Pavel Uhh not yet
08:54
It's 3:54 am and this is what I'm spending my time on T_T
09:27
> new and improved website
looks like it's from 2008 IMO
@betseg Keep in mind it's being written by a kid that is a Python programmer, not a Web Developer :P
He's actually really skilled at python
he wrote my IDE
lol
My answer could almost be golfier but the output requires hashes which means the trick won't work
;_;
09:48
Are you trying out for the cube net challenge?
@KritixiLithos Who?
DestructibleWatermelon
10:04
@KritixiLithos yes
it would only have saved one char anyway...
I'm writing a big explanation
This challenge apparently uncovered a big V bug
maybe I'll get a lot of votes
What lang is it?
but really I just hopeit makes someone want to learn the language
which is Turtlèd
the reason # makes the trick null is it would have needed # in a string, which is delimited by #, so would have required escaping
That's a bummer
10:15
Hallo
11:05
This answer is going to be my masterpiece
11:18
I'm starting to think maybe I could have done this better a different way...
nope, my way was not unnecessarily complicated
11:47
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A: Print a cube net of the specified size

Destructible WatermelonTurtlèd, 33 ?# #.[*,::[*'#;u[#'#u]l].;:_+]. Try it online! I've decided I'm going to make a big explanation for this answer. Explanation: So, first off, this language uses a 2d grid of characters, and the initial space is a *, all others spaces. "Writing char" means setting the cell unde...

my biggest answer now
I think
well, answer with the most non-code text
I think
 
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12:50
... What.
What? Did you think community was a robot?
@betseg ... Community is user -1. Negative users are bots...
> Hi, I'm not really a person.

I'm a background process that helps keep this site clean!
Should've added /s
13:14
@wizzwizz4 too bad that they only add this badge now that I'm no longer living in London :-/
@MartinEnder Surely TNB counts...?
I've got an annoying deleted ping.
Somebody pinged me, then deleted it before I could mark it as read, so now I've perpetually got a phantom 1 in my "new pings" counter.
try hitting escape while focus is on the chat textarea?
Try deleting your account and creating a new one from scratch. Guaranteed to work 100%
13:31
@KritixiLithos But... but but... :-(
That's abuse of the system...
Plus my messages will turn anonymous.
Oops, then :P
... I've just found a strategy to nuke corner hugger before it's begun.
:-( Now the game has no strategy left.
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

RunOrVeithDecide if an integer is uniform I was recently implementing a Local Binary Patch (LBP) descriptor, and found the need to decide if a number is uniform, as described below. You can read about why this is needed in object detection here. Input/Rules: Take a (signed!) integer n in any way that s...

13:50
@wizzwizz4 I found the strategy that you were talking about
@KritixiLithos Yeah. Wait for it to explode, then blow it up from the same place. :-(
14:16
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Q: Geohash Generator

Julian LachnietXKCD Comic: Goal: Given a date, the current Dow Opening, and your current coordinates as a rounded integer, produce a "geohash." Input: Input through any reasonable means (STDIN, function argument, flag, etc.) the following: The current date. This does necessarily have to be the date of t...

@NewMainPosts stupid question but... does anyone know what a "Dow Opening" is?
is it about the stock market?
@FlipTack Something to do with stock market.
Ninja'd.
It's when the stock trading thingy passes the other thingy.
I don't actually know much about this.
Anonymous
14:31
@FlipTack The DOW (aka the DOW Jones Industrial Average) is an index fund in the US stock market that is a decent indicator of overall market health, as it indexes lots of stocks from many different industries. The "DOW Opening" is the opening price for a single piece of DOW stock on a given day.
Anonymous
It's been nearly 24 hours with no comments or votes on this. Feedback, please?
We're running out of simple challenges. :-(
Include test cases
Anonymous
That's not a bad thing
@El'endiaStarman poor guys. Or actually I think there would be worse ways to die than when you're doing what you love, but I imagine the passenger might have had a little bit of a stressfull time...
14:51
@Mego It was late, I misread it. :/ sorry about that, I've restracted my vote
for the record, I missed the "how to find the x,y" pair at the beginning
15:03
I just found an ASCII table with only 157 views: asciitable.co.uk
It also has a counter at the bottom that shows the number of page accesses made.
Not per IP, but per refresh. And there are only 157. Wow.
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 A lot of adblockers/scriptblockers block page hit counters
@Mego Oh. Well, that could be it.
I suppose the only people who use ascii tables are often among the few who use adblockers/scriptblockers.
@El'endiaStarman You won't have to kick anyone for "RIP TNB" comments from the last few hours.
@wizzwizz4 Please don't intentionally use improper English.
@wizzwizz4 I'll be the judge of that.
@El'endiaStarman Better?
15:18
I have an array of items from set {0,1,2,3} and a matching array of items from set {True, False}. How should I serialise this to make the best stdoutput format?
"serialise"?
in what way
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Convert internalmemorygarbage to str.
how do you "serialize" 2 things together
I thought of having UPPERCASE and lowercase numbers.
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 Can you describe the problem a little more thoroughly/clearly?
Anonymous
15:20
Also when it comes to serializing, the answer is always JSON
i.e. '0' '1' '2' '3' and ' ' '!' '"' '#'.
This is for a KOTH challenge.
I have to go now, will you be around in a few hours?
Anonymous
Probably
Anonymous
It's me - I never really leave :P
ye
he's always waiting
to pounce on questions and give people the opportunity to make awful puns
Anonymous
15:24
s/give people/take
missing the last / there
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

FlipTackNormalize a Vector To normalize a vector is to scale it to a length of 1 (a unit vector), whilst keeping the direction consistent. For example, if we wanted to normalize a vector with 3 components, u, we would first find its length: |u| = sqrt(ux2 + uy2 + uz2) ...and then scale each compo...

Anonymous
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I'm using a golfier form where it's implicit without any ending modifiers
@Qwerp-Derp That the reply to "is chat dead?" is obvious and consistent is what makes it noise. It adds nothing of substance to the room. It's like asking "Can I ask a question?" Of course you can, just ask the question you have. If you're looking for someone to talk with, just mention it, along with a note that you'd like some feedback or whatever. Chat is asynchronous; people don't have to see your message in real-time.
15:37
@NewSandboxedPosts If vectors had a maximum 3 number of components, I would've been able to use Processing's PVector.normalize() builtin :/
Oh wait, PVector cannot have only one component
it's 12 bytes in julia
n->n/norm(n)
15:53
hola
hola
¿como estás?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ 102 bytes for me
16:09
muy bien
16:29
@KritixiLithos o_o wat
@ev3commander gracias
Got it to 100 bytes now
float[]f(float[]a){float s=0;for(float q:a)s+=q*q;for(int i=0;i<a.length;)a[i++]/=sqrt(s);return a;}
Golfing in progress...
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ are we needing to make a La Nineteentho Byteo chat room? :P
yo no se
@Downgoat fwiw byte would be byte
by-teh tho
and decimonoveno iirc
16:41
what is the view on this answer codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/106939/55243 Is this considered an output?
that's invalid
not allowed to fetch the answer
Thought it was, but I'm awful at finding the links to them all. thanks
control-f the meta post works for me
@KritixiLithos Just remove the water, then it doesn't have to float.
@KritixiLithos ......... processing doesn't have a norm(v) command?
16:46
I can't do that, the water is implicit :P
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I think most languages don't have a norm command.
> How do you know the cook making donuts aboard a ship is a Time Lord?

Because he's galleyfryin'.
@El'endiaStarman yeah but afaik processing was math?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Oh, I thought it was graphics?
> norm() Normalizes a number
16:47
Which is it, Kritxi?
According to the Processing Reference
@LegionMammal978 Ha, that's a good one.
Processing is mostly graphics, but that leads to it having some extra math stuff like PVectors
@El'endiaStarman idts
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Looks like it's both.
16:50
There is a normalize() method for PVectors, but PVectors can only take 0, 2 or 3 components afaik
ah okay
@KritixiLithos x/norm(x) is the same as normalizing a vector bt
@El'endiaStarman btw, you missed an i in my name (it comes after t and before x) ;)
@KritixiLithos Oooh, I see it.
Fact: Port a project to Rust to make it 5000% more popular.
17:12
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Q: Find the shortest representation of a number in Modular SNUSP

ais523Background Many esoteric programming languages don't have numbers built in at literals, so you have to calculate them at runtime; and in many of these cases, the number representation can be quite interesting. We've already had a challenge about representing numbers for Underload. This challenge...

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Q: XOR two B&W images

P. KtinosChallenge: Take input of two black and white images and xor each pixel of the first, with each pixel of the second, add them to a new image and output the new image. Size of pictures does not matter. Extension doesn't matter. You can make it take input any extension and output any extension, as ...

17:25
Haha, the last Sherlock episode already leaked online.
> Sherlock season finale illegally leaked online before airing on television
> Creators of show urge fans not to share the last episode
@mınxomaτ now I have to keep away from the internet :(
Anonymous
With leaked stuff, you can usually avoid it pretty easily
It's only the russian version though.
Anonymous
Most of the time you have to go out of your way to find the leaks
We are aware that #Sherlock episode 3 has been uploaded illegally online. If you come across it, please do not share it. #KeepMeSpoilerFree
Anonymous
17:32
@mınxomaτ There's a joke here about Russian leaks, but I'm too classy to make it
@Mego Well, no. Terrarium already lists 5 mirrors.
Anonymous
@mınxomaτ I count searching for "sherlock leaked episode" going out of one's way
Anonymous
I'm sure that, during my normal internet browsing, I won't come across any spoilers for the latest season of Sherlock until it hits Netflix
Many people use Terrarium. It's a matter of clicking "Play", not really searching for anything.
One thing is sure, no one seems to be able to write the name of the newly introduced character.
@mınxomaτ Charles.
@Mego Free to talk about I/O formats?
Anonymous
17:45
@wizzwizz4 You caught me at an unfortunate time - I'm about to go finish season 1 of A Series of Unfortunate Events with the wife. Feel free to chatter at me, but I won't be able to respond for a bit.
@Mego Ok.
Some of the tasks on Duolingo are so weird. Like, I'm doing household vocabulary in German, and a couple of the pictures they provided for "match the word and picture" tasks are iffy. There was one for a kitchen that had a ladder in it, and just now, one for a chair that had it on fire.
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@mınxomaτ Could you help me work out a thing?
What thing?
A KOTH I/O serialisation method.
17:47
No. Because I haven't got a clue about koths.
I have an n by n grid filled with numbers 0 - 3.
@El'endiaStarman Some men just want to watch the word burn
@mınxomaτ Ok. Imagine it's a programming interface.
That's a broad term.
17:48
Exactly.
Some of the squares are owned by your process, and some are not.
So each square has a value from 0 to 3 and a flag from False to True.
3 hours ago, by wizzwizz4
I thought of having UPPERCASE and lowercase numbers.
2 hours ago, by wizzwizz4
i.e. '0' '1' '2' '3' and ' ' '!' '"' '#'.
@El'endiaStarman Once in Duolingo, I had to translate I die alone
Wait what. How is # an uppercase number?
Or any other of these symbols.
@KritixiLithos I've had to translate stuff like "I am not a banana!".
@mınxomaτ They're lowercase.
0, 1, 2 and 3 are UPPERCASE.
It's bit 6.
@KritixiLithos Wow. Duolingo's got sinister since I last used it.
Perhaps it's revenge on all of the users who / that have broken their streaks.
Duolingo has/will have Klingon as one of their languages
@wizzwizz4 Green owls are not all they seem to be...
17:56
@KritixiLithos I know! :-) They don't yet, but the Klingon team've almost finished.
@KritixiLithos hoot hooot ...
Another crazy KOTH idea: quantum bots. Each bot acts like a fundamental particle, with their interactions leading to entanglement/superpositions.
@PhiNotPi Wow. That...
@PhiNotPi I like this idea
@PhiNotPi Could you help me work out a thing?
@wizzwizz4 sure
17:59
@PhiNotPi Scroll up a bit, to the third message down on the starboard.
Read my messages from there, to get an idea of the system.
Then think.
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