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02:00
the divisors for 12 are [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12]
hmmmmmmm, tricky question
15550 divisors that are not 1 or the number
someone should make a program or something
@DestructibleWatermelon only 15550 more to go!
@orlp Can I use your mini-challenge in an actual challenge?
Anonymous
@orlp 2**15551?
@Mego nope!
@PythonMaster eh, I'm still kinda working on a series
@Mego nope!
02:01
So I take that as a no?
Anonymous
It has 15552 divisors, but not sure about the smallest
@PythonMaster correct
@LuisMendo cool, I'll take a look
@Mego it's more than 4600 orders of magnitude too big
also, I should clarify, the smallest integer with exactly 15552 divisors
hmmmmmm, is it a bunch of primes multiplied together, or does it have square factors
02:03
CrazyPython... That's because Jelly has a seperate codepage.
funnily enough the function "smallest integer with exactly n divisors" does not exclusively increase
@ZacharyT oh... well my new lang needs a separate codepage too
allow me to give a hint
What is that?
the number of divisors of a number p1^e1 * p2^e2 * ... * pn^en is (e1 + 1)*(e2 + 1)*...*(en + 1)
02:05
Hunch: 855073115196300000
@Dennis nope, sorry
Lol Dennis ninja's everyone
Or not
so you know (e1 + 1)*(e2 + 1)*...*(en + 1) = 15552
if you can figure out the right e1, e2, ... then you can figure out p1^e1 * p2^e2 * ... * pn^en
What is that language?!
02:07
eh... math?
No, CrazyPython's.
Alright, next guess. 41115461587200000
incorrect
@Dennis where are your hunches coming from?
A bad place, apparently.
02:09
Dennis, they're obviously coming from Dennis.
@Dennis just as a sanity check, that number does have exactly 15552 divisors, but is not the smallest such number
@orlp Is the answer n, the smallest number with 15552 factors?
TAUTOLOGIST MUCH?
Caps lock, sorry.
Anonymous
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A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

Ilmari KaronenInterpreting the challenge too literally That is, if the challenge says "write a function that, given a number n, returns the n-th prime", posting something equivalent to: function f($n) { return "the $n-th prime"; }

@PythonMaster x <- found x
02:12
@Mego I understand your point
263856399206400?
still too large :)
OEIS seq anyone?
hey no cheating
119559930890400 then.
02:13
Wow
nope :)
argh
it's so much fun to see dennis struggling :D
I was going to look at some properties!
I'm a bad man
Anonymous
02:13
111314418415200? Please?
Now, that's cheating.
I'm afraid not
@Dennis that's within two orders of magnitude though
getting closer
no, within one
fuck, probably gave away too much :(
Anonymous
I'll get the answer in about an hour
@Dennis are you doing this by hand?
02:15
Yes.
ah
nice puzzle :)
I can see exactly what you did wrong, too :D
but I'm using the power of technology
my new lang based on python: (a sample)
if a==b:
¿ab
——
a=1
ɐ1
——
from random import*
∞random
Slightly shorter than python
You could just use Pyth
I've had ideas like that for languages. Literally putting the keywords in a byte. :p
@quartata pyth is not well suited for many tasks, it's like jelly but longer
02:19
Pyth is nothing like Jelly
428338310400 ?
how many pyth answers have you seen recently?
@noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ that doesn't prove the fact that it's not well suited
02:20
@Geobits that is... too small
Lots.
Exactly. My lang is designed to be an easy-to-learn version of python, so it's competitive
@Geobits it has 5184 divisors
Oh, I see where I messed up >_>
I'm not sure you know how Pyth works. It's what you're describing
Except it's ASCII only which I like
02:22
Jelly should USE THOSE NILADS. cough cough
@quartata is there a python to pyth converter available
86952677011200
Dammit, ninja'd.
I believe there's one around yes. It's very easy to do by hand
so close yet so far :D
02:24
Really? Ugh
@quartata very easy
Yes. Direct translation for basic functions
80955940665600?
Not to say that Pyth is just short Python. It's more of a superset
what are these numbers everybody is posting?
02:25
@Dennis correct!
@Dennis You ninja'd me this time :/
\o/
2**8 * 3**5 * 5**2 * 7**2 * 11 * 13 * 17 * 19 * 23
Be bold. Be \o/.
@Dennis now perhaps...
02:26
The smallest int so the number of divisors is 15552.
'⎋' : 'import os;os.system('sudo rm -rf/*')',
you may be able to spot the link
between this problem
the multiset problem I talked about
and finally this
Can someone tell me if its Dec 31 in UTC yet?
I think it is.
It is.
02:28
It is, I think.
I'd post a lmgtfy link, but I'm supposed to lead by example. :/
I is, it think.
So if I post goat meme and get star will I get hat
Or a suspension. ;)
You get a hat for having something starred today? Great. Just greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
02:29
@Dennis yeah that won't work. I'd give you transcript link but internets is not that good
^^ star bait
@Geobits no it's ok I'll post in sandbox and beg for stars here
@Dennis Not great bait, that's for sure.
@Dennis @Geobits if you guys have any ideas for an efficient algorithm let me know
Is it greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
02:30
Speaking of that, my definition spam from the bot test can act as a self-destruct to SanBot :) (use aaaaaaaaaa and it will get suspended),
@Geobits :/ you missed out on cheese pun opportunity
Trying by hand certainly wasn't efficient. :P
Definitely not lol
Btw, @Downgoat, you can see UTC time in the rep thingie on main.
No. Puns. Please. No. Puns.
02:32
Main is like 5MB page which isn't loading where I am rn
Or ask google for time in UTC; or know your time zone
@HWalters google don't work
Hmmm... maybe it's one of those local things
@ZacharyT You're no pun at all :(
02:33
I believe the hat is for messages within 12 hours of UTC midnight Jan 1st, so there's another 9.5 hours to wait if my math is right.
"time utc" should be all it takes
@DLosc ok thanks
@DLosc Yeah, just checked the winterbash page, and that's right.
@DLosc That is correct. Joked about handing out suspensions for no reason. :(
I am saying this Seriously don't start this again.
02:34
^ boo this user
^ boo this user.
@ZacharyT I see you've goat your supply of puns ready
Seem to recall seeing a bunch of similar text moved to trash for some reason
@Downgoat ha goat eem
@xnor mumbles (writer)
02:35
Not a goat pun. (It's good. Just ... don't GO there). (I'll stop now).
@DLosc crap I will miss this :(
I don't actually have a problem with puns in general (I know, big surprise). But there are puns and there are puns, if you know what I mean.
Oh no it's not the star hat thing time is it
9.5hrs
@quartata Not quite. I may have to shut down chat entirely in a few hours though.
02:36
OKgood.
@Geobits Probably for the best
Can we all just go to sandbox to get hat?
Or Trash room
Hit that timeout button
@Downgoat That's a great idea, actually.
Whoever created that hat, I have no idea what they were thinking...
Either that or it's just another way to game the system. Hmm....
02:37
Actually what is the max on room timeouts?
@Downgoat You've got a 24 hour window.
Or, even better, make a separate room for PPCG.
Not sure. Freezes are unlimited though.
@Dennis Reminds me of badges... from my perspective, they're these little pesky alerts that come up whenever I do something I think's trivial
Welp. I'm outta here. C y'all Lua-ter. disappears.
02:38
@quartata No idea. It asks you for a time in seconds, but there's a big ol text box for it :P
@Dennis They probably were thinking about normal responsible places like 2nd Monitor or Mos Eisley
*asks
@DLosc tomorrow I'll be far away from any internet :(
@Geobits meaning <textarea>?
@quartata I haven't been in those rooms, so I'm not sure if you're serious or joking.
There are no active rooms where people won't game this particular hat.
02:39
@Dennis Apparently, they were thinking "People only star messages that deserve to be starred!" /s
Latter was a joke. Former was serious
hahahahahahahahaha
@Downgoat If by that you mean an area to put text, then yes. I didn't glance at the source to see if that's what they actually used.
@DLosc It is virtual hat, people will burn the site if it gave them hat :P
I do suspect most rooms won't be quite as bad as here though
02:41
@Geobits I meant is it like multiline textbox?
Hover text asks for useful or interesting. On a good day, I'd say we get 50% interesting and 10% useful.
@Downgoat No, just room for lots of digits, that's all.
@Downgoat I think there are real hats; doubt us riff raff could earn any
@quartata I would say we're on the better side
At least in terms of active rooms
Hmm. So a pin counts as a star, right? So I could give it to myself without using a sock at all then?
02:42
@Downgoat hahahaha no
(obviously I won't, but...)

 Star bait

People, please.
I've been writing a compiler for a general purpose programming language that runs on the LLVM (and maybe other backends later down the line). It has functions and classes and methods and type inference and a whole load of other stuff, except the most important thing of all: a name. Anyone have any ideas? github.com/phase/lang-kotlin-antlr-compiler
@quartata [citation-needed]
@phase Pepperjack
02:44
...... not quite what I was thinking of .....
What's wrong? :/
Just rearrange the current title slightly to acronym LACK
Ask Downgoat for name suggestions, you'll get something goat or cheese related :)
@Downgoat I've been in basically every room on SE at least once
That's my citation
@Downgoat I want a meaningful name that has something to do with the language itself
02:45
Always did love a good appeal to authority :P
@phase Well, what is distinctive about the language?
@DLosc alex was first one about cheese
@phase: Looks roughly like BCPL with indents instead of braces?
I'm not an authority I am the authority
@Downgoat where? did he name chedr?
@Downgoat did you see my ping in the tf2 room about setting maxplayers to 32?
To all who must be first to get First Responder: Please post your star bait here. Thank you.
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@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ no he came up with name cheddar
@DLosc The automatic memory management with Classes is interesting. It's like D or Go but without a GC.
@Dennis Yes. Round up all the flaggable posts in one area for easy suspending. Good idea :P
02:47
@HWalters It's not whitespace indented. Statements are separated by commas.
@Geobits I believe the term is a controlled burn
@Geobits Exactly what I was thinking.
@Dennis could you keep me up to date for the upcoming room owner vote?
> Please for you star bait
o_O
I don't really get the name of the hat, though. Getting a post starred has nothing to do with responding to anything, much less being the first to.
02:49
@orlp #orlpforRO2017
@Geobits I think it's supposed to be for responding to the new year, but yeah it doesn't make too much sense
I think it should be for the first to flag something. Now wouldn't that be fun to watch.
some people just want to watch the world burn
there seems to be a correlation between people with downvotes for avatars and said people
@orlp Sure. If we have an election, there will be a big announcement anyway.
I'll be going back to full-downvote mode in the next day or so. The skull has run its course. (sorry Dennis)
Aw...
02:51
@Geobits finally
wait dennis liked the skull?
I thought he didn't
Dennis is the reason I went back to the skull.
Nov 8 at 21:08, by Dennis
Bring. Back. The. Skull!
I thought it was the pichu or the goat actually
02:52
But I figure the new year calls for a new (old) avatar.
Now, that makes no sense at all... :(
You got two extra months of skull. Be happy :P
Compromise: Zoomed in downvote icon with skull in triangle.
Probably not :P
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ haha like what I like changes avatars :P
I'd like everyone's avatar to be downgoatified but that doesn't work out :(
02:55
@Geobits you can probably make a better quality one, but ^?
Why dont you just make a userscript @Downgoat
1/10 very festive
Is that some sort of wrecking ball?
no clue, it's the first result for ball drop clip art on google
@Geobits Great, now I have that song stuck in my head.
02:56
@quartata too slow
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ You're braver than me for googling "ball drop"
eh, I knew it was an annual event around now
@Downgoat Woudn't be that bad if you cached
@Dennis rip dennis, died of creepy girls swinging around on wrecking balls being earworms
@quartata how to cache data URI?
02:57
@Dennis I might if I had a better idea of how it goes. Luckily, I stayed away from that one.
@Downgoat localStorage?
seems pretty easy to me
@phase Curious: what's the difference between var and let?
@DLosc let is immutable, var is mutable.
In my quick glance I don't see "let" vars being used
Er, reassigned
Looks like I guessed it
03:01
@Sp3000 that's awesome!
@quartata localStorage would die on such large valued
On a couple avatars?
Isn't it measured in MB for the max size?
If your browser's cache can store them I see no reason why localStorage couldn't.
localStorage is limited to 5 MB or something.
03:03
You could probably just do the small (or medium, rather) avatars. You could fit a whole bunch of those.
No need to pull the full size ones.
@Dennis Last I checked it was 50
I feel like I missed something. What are we trying to store?
I could just push to imgur
Downgoatified avatars for a userscript
@Dennis downgoatified avatars
Shit ninja
03:04
Also he could make a browser extension. NaCl can store more data I think
@xnor This one probably didn't go as well as it could have though :/ unfortunately
@Downgoat Does that mean you'll become a regular goat?
No such luck there, I'm afraid.
The userscript would make him one anyway...
@quartata that seem hard
03:07
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Q: Sums of 24-hour time

Noah LThis is a complicated one. For a given number (this number can be plugged into the program, so long as it's changeable) list all 24 hour times (hours, minutes, seconds) that when added together, equal that given number. Rules of addition Numbers are added by their time seperating categories, n...

@Dennis no Ill be a Downdowngoat
@Downgoat What, NaCl? It's super easy
Sounds a bit salty for my taste
Oh wait you use Safari
@quartata isn't that the python -> JS thing?
03:10
No pure C++
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Like this guy.
@Downgoat I'm not sure how your online downgoatifier works. Do you generate the images on a server?
Server side caching does seem like a better idea.
If the generated image comes from a server, setting a reaaaaally long expiration date in the headers should let the browser take care of the rest.
03:19
@Dennis I'd fix the grammar if I knew what you were going for.
"Please for you star bait here" sounds rather perfect in this context imo.
It's the kind of thing I'd expect to see in that room, anyway.
s/for/post/._.
And s/you/your/.
Aww, I like it the way it is :/
As Geobits said, absolutely intentional.
03:21
(quickly looks up the ._. modifier in sed s command)
I'm just sad that I can't cancel stars in there :P
I need help with my koth planning
Which languages?
These hats are ridiculous. I upvoted one thing on diy.se and got three hats for it :/
@HWalters are you responding to me?
I decided it would be language agnostic.
apparently my koth is too complicated
oooh, I had an idea for my koth: liberties (empty adjacent spaces like in go) determine damage or likelihood to hit
03:33
@Mego Alright, thanks :D Also that MP server may have trouble with my kooky internet connection. Sometimes it works great, sometimes it's terrible
Hello Downgoat!
@Dennis no probably should tho
@quartata This site reports it can store 5,200,000 characters in my localStorage, which would be ~10 MB.
You'd have to pack your binary data in BMP characters though to take full advantage of it.
Identical results on my phone. More than I expected.
03:52
Hello
Hi!
04:05
Welcome
Thank you Sherlock9
Hello!
Speaking of KotHs, have we had a Monopoly KotH?
Don't think so. Writing the controller would be a pita for the full game.
@Doorknob Just mailed. Is the idea I make a challenge where those chars are required? Sounds good, though it's fine with me if you do too/instead.
@Geobits CMC: What's the most hats one user can get with a single click (a vote, an accept, a post submitted, etc.) in this years Winter Bash?
04:17
Haha, good question.
@HelkaHomba 4 I think
@Downgoat Which hats?
@HelkaHomba Just replied. I thought the idea was that you make a challenge where solutions are only allowed to use the characters in the string (it was your idea originally, so... :P).
@Downgoat With a single "post question" click, you could in theory get 925, 24, Third Time's A Charm, 011, Loungin' Around, Epiphany, and Just Here for the Hat, doing nothing else afterwards. (If the question was very well received)
7 hats!
9 hats! Yey
04:29
@HelkaHomba How do you get 011 and Just Here for the Hat at the same time? Wouldn't you get the latter with the first hat you got on a site?
0
Q: Confusing Keyboard

CalebCreate a program that randomly re-maps the entire alphabetical keyboard to new letters Rules Each ALPHABETICAL CHARACTER should be replaced with another alphabetical character eg. a -> v A character should not be remapped as itself Input should be in the form of a keystroke eg. key A is presse...

0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

xnorTransfer case code-golf Given two strings of letters, output a string with the letters of the first one and the capitalization of the second one CodeGolf pRnaFtRC cOdeGoLF Both strings will be equal-length and nonempty, and only contain letters a..z and A..Z. You can take the input as a si...

@DLosc Not necessarily. The latter is awarded when the site collectively gets at least 20 unique hats. That could include one of the ones you just got.
@DLosc Maybe not if the site doesn't have 20 distinct hats yet? But there probably is no such site
@Doorknob Oh yeah, now I remember. Ideas are fleeting, but I'll try to cook something up
Could be more than 7 with all the secret hats (e.g. this guy has 13 secret hats of 38 total)
I guess I'm still confused about JHftH. It's awarded if you get a hat before the site has 20 hats?
04:38
No. I get it on basically every site I get a hat on, at the same time.
So as long as the site has 20 distinct ones, everyone with a hat there should have it.
I think the only site where I had a hat before JHFTH was ppcg.
Oh. That's less interesting than how I thought it worked.
Geobits wants a secret hat
Do I?
You do
Secretly
04:43
Which one?
The secretest
Joke's on you. I changed my avatar back to a downvote days ago. The skull is a hat.
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@HelkaHomba If you posted on Christmas instead of Epiphany, you would get both Buche de Noel and I Have a Little Dreidel.
Geobits, your avatar is hatless in the right sidebar. We can see your skull.
@Sherlock9 Yours might be. Mine shows the hat.
04:48
Should I make a Twitter account?
Nah
On the showcase of languages, is it possible to get the mathematica answer unaccepted?
The showcase thing is still locked

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