The Nineteenth Byte

Martin Ender

21:00

@trichoplax poultry

TimmyD

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ TIL. Awesome, thanks!

Geobits

@Pavel I'd rather need a ton of code that then works "everywhere" instead of dealing with browsers. JS is a nightmare if you want to do anything fancy.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@TimmyD doesn't answer why "poisson" didn't stick around though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

TimmyD

@Flp.Tkc I actually didn't. This is neat stuff.

Geobits

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Because if you anglicize it, it would probably end up too close to poison.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:01

true

Pavel

@Geobits I agree with you, java is my primary language.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

really? mine's english

TuxCopter

In france poisson is pronounced [pwasɔ~]

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

o_O

MetaEd

@trichoplax A " goes into a |.

Geobits

21:02

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Uh, yeah... mine too. I definitely don't have some internal machine language going >_>

TuxCopter

(The o is actually an open o, I just don't have this letter on my keyboard)

Flp.Tkc

@TimmyD oh. well yeah, as others said, it's because the French people ate it cooked, using french names, and the commoners farmed it using english names

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Geobits YES FELLOW NONROBOT

Pavel

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ When I speak I surround everything with out.println("");

Poke

@Geobits we've already established you're a robot. you can't hide it

TuxCopter

21:03

@Pavel System.out.println("You lied");

Luis Mendo

@TuxCopter ɔ

:-)

Pavel

import static java.lang.System.*;

TuxCopter

Now I don't have the combining tilde lol

Geobits

I cringe a bit every time I see a static import in Java production code.

flawr

@LuisMendo ɔ:

trichoplax

21:04

@MartinEnder You just resolved a long standing unsettled feeling

Luis Mendo

@flawr >:U

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Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@flawr :ɔ

Pavel

@Geobits why is that?

Flp.Tkc

@Geobits so how hyped are you for java 9's repl

Martin Ender

@trichoplax my pleasure, although it was (almost) right above your message ;)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:04

@trichoplax wait you hadn't heard that?

Pavel

Very

Geobits

@Flp.Tkc 4/10

flawr

@LuisMendo Ɑ:

TuxCopter

@flawr ಠ_ಠ

Geobits

@Pavel Because the code that follows is usually harder to read as a direct result.

Luis Mendo

21:05

^^^ Hehe, that one is funny!

trichoplax

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I'd heard the word poultry, but overlooked that it answered my question about why chicken doesn't have a franglicised name

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oic

Pavel

I suppose. I only ever do it for System.out, to make the code a bit shorter.

flawr

@TuxCopter ಠ◡ಠ

Pavel

Since printing is a thing I need to do a lot.

TuxCopter

21:06

@flawr ಠಠಠಠ_ಠಠಠಠ

:34095687 ಠ is a Kannada (Not Canada) letter

trichoplax

They are just playing kick roulette

TuxCopter

And ಠ_ಠ look like a disaproving face

Pavel

tse1.mm.bing.net/…

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

who's gonna get kicked next? Tune in pretty soon for a startling conclusion to the emoticon roulette!

put a ! before the link

TuxCopter

!

Flp.Tkc

21:08

@TimmyD if it helps, fish that were cooked differently have french names, such as court-boullion and nage (EDIT: nage may not be french, oops)

trichoplax

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Thank you for being "helpful"

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

happy to accidentally make the chat window a lot more annoying to scroll through on mobile

trichoplax

I meant more the long term effect of teaching :P

Geobits

I feel so much sadder for reading the deleted jokes on that SO thread. (link for SO 10kers only)

TuxCopter

@Geobits Screenshot for mortals?

Flp.Tkc

21:10

^

Pavel

^-^

trichoplax

Or you could spare us the sadness

Pavel

(When carrots and emoji collide)

>_>

^v^

Geobits

@TuxCopter There are at least five full pages of deleted ones, so no thanks ;)

TuxCopter

Then a lot of screenshoots for mortals?

trichoplax

21:11

Are you sad that they were deleted, or were they deleted because they make people sad?

Luis Mendo

@TuxCopter They are terrible jokes (what I've seen, anyway). You don't want to see them :-)

Geobits

@trichoplax Definitely the latter. Some are just terrible, some are really really terrible, and the rest are "10 type of programmers" dupes.

Pavel

WolframAlpha|"Tell me a computer science joke"

All the stars I did today ended up getting cleared and now I have only 3 stars on anything and no stars remaining ;-;

trichoplax

The star limit is there for a reason...

4

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@trichoplax same end effect though? :P

trichoplax

21:16

Yes just multiplied :P

Martin Ender

@Flp.Tkc I'd include "radiation hardened" somewhere in the spec for searchability

Flp.Tkc

@MartinEnder thank you, added it

trichoplax

@Pavel It might help to think of stars as a service to other chatters, rather than as a competition

New Main Posts

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Q: Error 404: Character Not Found

Scenario One of your friends is struggling on a homework assignment. He needs a simple program which prints the first 404 natural numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ... 401 402 403 404 Your challenge is simple: write this program for him. However, your connection is terrible, so 1 random chara...

Qwerp-Derp

Hello!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:24

o/

TuxCopter

hai

Gabriel Benamy

Perl is not the language for this challenge

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Qwerp-Derp did you use to have another name, like 1 year ago

Gabriel Benamy

neither is COW

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

or was that somebody else with a minecraft chicken avatar

Qwerp-Derp

21:24

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ If you mean DerpfacePython, then yes

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ohhhhh

ok thanks, that has been bugging me for a while =)

Qwerp-Derp

Was it DerpfacePython?

TimmyD

Just got an email from a vendor that had the below as a banner at the top of their email. I feel like there's a challenge in here ... randomly connect X points around a circle, then cutout a star shape from it?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Qwerp-Derp yeah

TimmyD

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:25

christmas cookie sketches?

Pavel

Ascii cookie with a star shape removed in the middle

Kolmogorov Complexity

TimmyD

Nah, don't want to do ASCII.

Flp.Tkc

imo graphical-output would be nice

although it tends to exclude a lot of answers

Pavel

Mathematica has a built in for drawing connected graphs

trichoplax

Even languages without graphical output can output a text file pbm easily enough

Pavel

21:33

I don't even need to rearrange the points

TimmyD

I'll put something together in the sandbox.

Pavel

I with chat allowed custom emoji like in discord

We would need one for carrots

🥕

Geobits

@Pavel Doesn't the built-in either need random points input, or something else? The examples shown aren't what I've seen from the builtin before, since they're not uniformly spaced points.

Pavel

Aren't they uniform? I don't remember, I don't really do graphs in Mathematica

Calvin's Hobbies

Anyone know what to say to the "ok Google" voice to get her to stop talking? Like when a super long explanation is being read.

Pavel

21:36

I suppose I'd need to remove the one external pentagon

Gabriel Benamy

@Calvin'sHobbies "ok google, format c"

Geobits

@Calvin'sHobbies She doesn't listen while talking, but iirc there's a button for that.

Pavel

Back?

Geobits

back probably works, but I believe there's one near where the mic icon usually is.

TuxCopter

@Calvin'sHobbies "OK Google, compute the factorial of 90000"

Should stop her for a bit of time

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:37

@Calvin'sHobbies "shut the fuck up google" actually does work for me

DJMcMayhem

@Calvin'sHobbies that drives me crazy

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits yeah, back works, but I want hands free :/

Pavel

Wolfram alpha actually used to do the long algorithm for factorial

But now 90000! isn't hard at all

TuxCopter

Then "OK Google, compute ack(100, 100)"

Calvin's Hobbies

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Heh, it censors the word in the search box

Pavel

21:39

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ack(100,+100)

I am disappointed in you, W|A.

TuxCopter

ack(ack(ack(100,100),ack(100,100)),ack(ack(100,100),ack(100,100))) then

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Calvin'sHobbies yep

TimmyD

@TuxCopter Ack-Ack!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

cancel also sometimes works, I think it depends on what's being read

Pavel

Does Google Now use W|A?

Calvin's Hobbies

21:42

Also, why can't my tablet get the Allo app with the new Google asistant thingy? :(

Pavel

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @TuxCopter you broke wolfram alpha that query gives "defined only for nonnegative numbers"

TuxCopter

bwahahaha

trichoplax

@Pavel It'll still take a while to read it out though...

Pavel

It doesn't try

It just says "Too large to display" when it doesn't meltdown.

trichoplax

Oh

New Sandboxed Posts

21:43

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Graphical Stars code-golf graphical-output Meta: this is currently pretty rough so I could get some ideas down quick. I'm also probably not using the right terminology as I'm not very familiar with graphs and graph theory. Looking for feedback. Take an input integer 50 <= n <= 300 and constr...

TimmyD

Wow, the bots are speedy today.

Pavel

Aren't they always?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no

TuxCopter

@NewSandboxedPosts 4 mins? You broke your record, NSP

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

there was a meta post a couple days ago that took 1 full hour

Pavel

21:45

What does "randomly n/2 connected" mean?

Pick n/2 elements, and make a complete graph from them?

TimmyD

@TuxCopter No, my sandbox post from a few hours ago was posted in like a minute.

Pavel

Draw n/2 edges?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I think he swapped some words

Pavel

@TimmyD

TimmyD

@Pavel Oh, haha, that's complete gibberish.

TuxCopter

21:45

@TimmyD That's even better

Qwerp-Derp

I'm thinking of creating a language called Charles Montgomery Quince

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Pavel I think he means "construct a circular connected graph of n points with n/2 randomly of them connected."

@TimmyD ^?

Qwerp-Derp

Guess what the language is based on?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

mangos

Qwerp-Derp

It has to do with the name ಠ_ಠ

TuxCopter

21:46

I don't understand the reference :/

Pavel

Me neither

Qwerp-Derp

Charles Montgomery Quince

This is like a guessing game

Pavel

CMQ doesn't mean anything either, right?

Qwerp-Derp

Nope

That's going to be the file extension though

TuxCopter

@Pavel Chat Mini Quaternion

Qwerp-Derp

21:47

I am the king of the guessing game! Muhuhahaha

Pavel

@TuxCopter Is that a real thing and what is it?

TuxCopter

idk I just invented a meaning for the acronym

Qwerp-Derp

Should I give a hint?

Pavel

Yes

Calvin's Hobbies

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I still say we should make a thingy that's faster than the RSS feeds. Even the API quota of 10,000 requests per day would easily allow a new-post check every 10 seconds (per bot).

Qwerp-Derp

21:49

Well too bad :p

Guess a bit more

Geobits

@Pavel Yeah, as in draw the chords on the circle, then cut out the star. You're not drawing lines between star edges.

Poke

@Calvin'sHobbies this would be pretty fun to write, i think

TimmyD

@Geobits What makes that not a regular five-pointed {5/2} star?

That it's rotated slightly?

Pavel

It's not a circle though

It's n points arranged in a circle

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Calvin'sHobbies hm, maybe

Pavel

21:51

THat's different

TimmyD

n points on a circle, connect n/2 of them randomly, use a star as a stencil, output the result

Calvin's Hobbies

@Poke Tricky part is where to run it so it can always stay active (needs to be super reliable if it really were to replace present feeds)

Pavel

I still don't get it.

Geobits

@TimmyD In a regular star the edges would go from point to opposite point (with a section cut out of the middle where the intersections are). Those lines don't line up like that, they're bowed outward.

Pavel

Is that gest a certain amount of edges

Calvin's Hobbies

21:52

@Pavel What is this from?

Qwerp-Derp

So is no one guessing? :p

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

holy shit I found a dennis answer that isn't on ppcg

when googling another problem

Qwerp-Derp

lol

TimmyD

@Geobits Holy crap, they are. I didn't see it until you just pointed it out and I held up a piece of paper.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

and it's what I'm looking for

Pavel

21:53

@Qwerp-Derp nope

I don't even remember what the lang is called

Poke

@Calvin'sHobbies well if it's community-written the best place would probably be aws unless someone has a server lying around that they want to support forever

TimmyD

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Graphical Stars code-golf graphical-output Meta: this is currently pretty rough so I could get some ideas down quick. I'm also probably not using the right terminology as I'm not very familiar with graphs and graph theory. Looking for feedback. Take an input integer 50 <= n <= 300 and constr...

Qwerp-Derp

Charles Montgomery Quince, but no one cares now :(

Pavel

Yep, I give up.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Dennis just an fyi, your link in this unix.se answer is dead

Qwerp-Derp

21:54

Montgomery is a red herring

Geobits

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ TIR that when I see unix.se my mind sees unisex

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

okay?

Qwerp-Derp

Same with SMBF and SMBC

Pavel

What does the structure of CMQ look like, anyway?

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel Only going to reveal it if you guess first

Dennis

21:57

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ That's Super User, not unix.se.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Poke But aws.amazon.com/free is only for 12 months, and I wouldn't expect anyone to pay forevermore in the future of ppcg. There may be other free options though (Heroku that just runs a script locally?)

Pavel

There was some politician in the eighteen hundreds named Charles Quincy but he doesn't seem relevant

Poke

@Calvin'sHobbies if it's good enough maybe it can be passed off to SE to support. huehue

Qwerp-Derp

Nope

Pavel

Charcoal?

Qwerp-Derp

21:58

It's a pun

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Dennis oops, the color scheme is too similar

Qwerp-Derp

Also nope

Pavel

Am I right to be getting "char" from Charles?

Qwerp-Derp

Nope

Pavel

i'm bad at these things -_-

Qwerp-Derp

22:01

The name is a bad pun :p

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

charles quits?

Qwerp-Derp

Nope

I'll just reply "YES" to the answer from now on, cause it's cluttering the chat a bit

Pavel

If this isn't actually a pun, and is just designed to throw us off for the whole day, I will find one of your codegolf submissions, and I will downvote it.

TuxCopter

@Pavel ERMAGAWD

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel dun dun duuuuuuuuun

But it's actually a pun

2nd hint: Think acronyms (initials).

Pavel

22:03

CQ?

TuxCopter

CMQ

The letters CMQ' may represent any of the following: CMQ have been used as call letters for the following broadcasting stations in Havana, Cuba: the pre-1959 CMQ radio and television network Radio stations CMQ (AM) and CMQ-FM: currently Radio Rebelde Television station CMQ-TV channel 6: currently Cubavision International The IATA airport code for Clermont Airport in Clermont, Queensland, Australia Communauté métropolitaine de Québec (Quebec Metropolitan Community) Collège des médecins du Québec (Quebec College of Physicians) Club Mitsubishi Québec (Quebec Mitsubishi auto Club) The Australi...

Qwerp-Derp

@TuxCopter Just no

Pavel

I don't know anything CQ.

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel That's kinda the wrong approach

It's initials, but wrong

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Doorknob since you're in the chat right now, do you know the command line option for setting your nethack char's gender?

-p for role, -r for race, but it's not -g or -s for gender

Calvin's Hobbies

22:06

@Poke Just hide it in a stack snippet of a frequently viewed post...so we get feeds every time someone runs the snippet

I know. We'd get the updates every time someone runs the snippet

I was joking anyhow

TuxCopter

Didn't see the 'run the snippet' bit

naɪt

Qwerp-Derp

Dammit the guessing game is ded

Pavel

Is it like how on some business cards it's in the format C. M. Quincy?

Like that?

Qwerp-Derp

Yup

Quince*

Pavel

I GOT IT

C. QUince

SEQUENCE

Qwerp-Derp

22:12

There we go

Pavel

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Qwerp-Derp

Yeah, so the language is based on sequences

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits You related? (The channel, not the car.)

Qwerp-Derp

I kinda want it to be readable

wizzwizz4

That feed bot server thing couldn't be a stack snippet.

Unless private rooms are excluded, in which case :'-( for mods who have to use them.

Pavel

22:13

readable is useful. *cough* Dennis *cough*

wizzwizz4

And anyway, credentials in a Stack Snippet?

Giving control of @NewMainPosts to just anybody?!

Calvin's Hobbies

@wizzwizz4 that may be an issue :P

wizzwizz4

@Calvin'sHobbies "May"? If you gave that to the Information Security folks, the site would go down!

Qwerp-Derp

seq ackermann(m, n) -> {
    m = 0: n + 1
    n = 0: ackermann(m - 1, n)
    ackermann(m - 1, ackermann(m, n - 1)
}

That's the Ackermann function

It can also be condensed to 1 line

seq ack(m,n)->{m=0:n+1;n=0:ack(m-1,n);ack(m-1,ack(m,n-1))}

Does it look nice?

Pavel

Yeah

gtg see you all later

Qwerp-Derp

22:17

kk

So what does everyone think of CMQ?

Calvin's Hobbies

@wizzwizz4 I'm not serious about the snippet thing. But I really do think it would be possible to make a free Heroku app that is a blank webpage but runs a local script every 10 seconds to post feeds here. ..who remembers Ruby?

@Qwerp-Derp for what?

Qwerp-Derp

Is it readable?

Calvin's Hobbies

What?

Qwerp-Derp

CMQ, my lang

wizzwizz4

@Qwerp-Derp When have we ever cared about readability?

Qwerp-Derp

22:21

The snippet thing that I posted

But readability looks nice

Calvin's Hobbies

oh

Qwerp-Derp

@wizzwizz4 Pshhh, you can make it mangled if you want, no big deal

See the second snippet

wizzwizz4

@Qwerp-Derp ⚑ : "too subjective"

Calvin's Hobbies

@Qwerp-Derp Yeah. I'm just not sure what a seq is

At least, with two inputs, how do you order n and m?

Qwerp-Derp

@Calvin'sHobbies seq means sequence

Also what do you mean by ordering

The seq thing is kinda like a function

Calvin's Hobbies

22:24

@Qwerp-Derp I figured that. How does it differ from function?

Qwerp-Derp

It's only for numbers

Calvin's Hobbies

(and is the -> necessary syntax?)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Qwerp-Derp what lang is that?

Qwerp-Derp

Hmmm

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ruby?

Qwerp-Derp

22:25

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ CMQ

My new lang

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oic

Qwerp-Derp

If I bother to make it properly

@Calvin'sHobbies Actually yeah, removing it is better

seq ackermann(m, n) {
    m = 0: n + 1
    n = 0: ackermann(m - 1, n)
    ackermann(m - 1, ackermann(m, n - 1)
}

It reminds me of JS

TBH it reminds me too much of JS methinks

wizzwizz4

@Qwerp-Derp Because JS is based on C syntax and everything else is also based on C syntax.

[citation needed]

Qwerp-Derp

Would changing for square brackets retain readability?

It fits well with sequence and maths theme I think

wizzwizz4

@Qwerp-Derp Square brackets where? To replace the {} or the (). If the latter, which set?

Calvin's Hobbies

22:29

@Qwerp-Derp seq makes me think you're making an infinite list (e.g. infinite python generator) and and ordered list is awkward when there are two inputs. How do you order (m, n) pairs?

mınxomaτ

List of C-family programming languages

C-family programming languages is a loosely defined term referring to many programming languages sharing similarities, mainly flow-control syntax, but also in some other aspects. Due to the success of the C programming language and some of its derivatives, the family spans a large variety of programming paradigms, conceptual models, and run-time environments. == References... ==

Qwerp-Derp

@wizzwizz4 Curly brackets

@Calvin'sHobbies The individual statements are basically ifs and elifs

So the full code looks like this

Calvin's Hobbies

@Qwerp-Derp I figured

Qwerp-Derp

seq ackermann(m, n) {
    (if) m = 0: n + 1
    (elif) n = 0: ackermann(m - 1, n)
    (else) ackermann(m - 1, ackermann(m, n - 1)
}

Oh

What do you mean by ordering m, n pairs then

wizzwizz4

Ooh! New idea: Replace the cumbersome job of constantly finding onebox-able links to information with a chatbot! :-)

PhiNotPi

22:31

Idea: make an improved version of oneboxing called twoboxing. Double the content and double the framerate.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Qwerp-Derp Just, how does a seq differ from a function? Functions can't only be for numbers?

wizzwizz4

@PhiNotPi -1 Sounds too much like marketing.

mınxomaτ

@PhiNotPi one box is cinematic enough

wizzwizz4

@Qwerp-Derp It's your language. Personally I recognise {} but would be able to understand [] without too much effort (having worked with Python list comprehension which is basically function-initialises-list).

"Blackadder"... Where did that come from?

Calvin's Hobbies

CMC: Draw Google Chrome logo (may help for upcoming graphical-output)

TanMath

22:41

I wonder if we can make a neural network to do code golf....

wizzwizz4

@Calvin'sHobbies CMC: Cause Google Chrome to not run (may be a little easier)

@TanMath Yes, but it might take a while / a lot of processing power to train, and would probably be BF-only.

Maltysen

@Calvin'sHobbies the old one, or the new material design one?

wizzwizz4

brb, reading A-level mathematics textbook.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Maltysen New one but no fancy shadows. Blue dot, white circle, red-green-yellow propellor dealies.

TanMath

@wizzwizz4 yeah... I have seen a computer program that uses genetic algorithms to write BF...

Pavel

22:45

Hey@Qwerp-Derp can you provide an example of CMQ that shows off it's unique functionality? What you have seems like a trivial variation on C. Surely there's something to set it apart, in the same way Java isn't a trivial caught on C?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

yawn Yet another YouTube design update...

Pavel

Really

wizzwizz4

@Pavel +1 for (++signal):noise.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@Pavel Go to youtube.com for evidence

mınxomaτ

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ No change for me.

Pavel

22:48

I'm on my phone

Maltysen

@mınxomaτ same

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Weird

Using FF on Win10 here

mınxomaτ

Only the rewind animation is gone, everything else is the same.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Caching maybe?

Maltysen

nah, google always rolls updates out slowly

Pavel

22:49

What rewind animation

Wasn't it always instant

mınxomaτ

The animated logo

wizzwizz4

... Google knows that I'm into Retro computing...

The only time I've put that info into a Google service was via Tor...

:-/ Perhaps a lucky guess?

mınxomaτ

Youtube New Logo Animation,Youtube Rewind || By The Guide

►

Pavel

Oh,I thought you meant when you click back to rewind a video.

mınxomaτ

youtube.com/tv changed a bit.

Pavel

22:51

Oh right,I forgot that's a thing that exists.

Calvin's Hobbies

Why has Google succeeded at everything except Google+?

mınxomaτ

Google Wave should have been a clue.

Pavel

Because Google plus was bad

Maltysen

@Calvin'sHobbies network effect?

feersum

I'm sure Google has failed at thousands of things we haven't heard of.

wizzwizz4

22:54

@Calvin'sHobbies Google Search was good, everything else was bought or went through a lot of testing and was scrapped before you saw it if it was "bad"?

Ninja'd.

Calvin's Hobbies

> Apache Wave is a software framework for real-time collaborative editing online. Google originally developed it as Google Wave (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wave)

Sounds like docs

mınxomaτ

It was marketed by Google as more of a social network akin to plus.

I tested it during the invitation phase.

Calvin's Hobbies

Hmm, never heard of it

mınxomaτ

It just didn't make any sense.

Maltysen

speaking of docs, have you guys seen the new explore button in sheets/docs? You can actually ask questions in natural language about your sheet

not to mention the automatic aggregation/other analysis it gives you on your selections

wizzwizz4

22:59

@Maltysen Pretty good, but that's been around for ages! (At least, if you speak Lojban.)

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