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12:00
Hiya
Jun 6 at 17:00, by mınxomaτ
I have a useless superpower. As soon as I have more than one latop in my possession at one time, one of them dies.
All my broken laptops arrived from repair today. I now have an absurd amount of laptops.
How many?
3 today, 5 yesterday that arrived working again
And why do you have so many laptops????
If one breaks, I need a new one. So I buy one, while sending the old to repair.
12:12
So you had 8 laptops that broke while the previous were in repair?
I need at least three laptops at a time, 1) personal & work stuff, 2) for my live stuff, 3) as a prop for said live stuff
Oh ok.
And I just bricked my luks volume somehow. Damnit
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Nathan MerrillPPCG Jeopardy How well do you know the site? Let's find out. This is a cops-and-robbers challenge. The cops need to: Find a non-deleted, non-closed challenge on this site to answer. The challenge cannot be a cops-and-robbers or popularity-contest. The challenge must have restrictions on...

Can any of you think of any challenges that are loopholes ^
@NathanMerrill So you're probably thinking of a challenge where the expected output is free/not well defined?
12:26
yep
or like "output any integer"
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Q: How do I find the longest palindrome in a string?

Joe Z.The challenge: Make a function that finds the longest palindrome inside a string. Note: This is a code-trolling question. Please do not take the question and/or answers seriously. More information here.

or "I allow any trailing characters"
code-trolling should be banned
some are simply locked and not tagged with popularity-contest
aren't all code-trolling locked?
I disallow locked challenges
The "output anything longer than the code" challenge maybe?
12:28
I don't know if there is a locked challenge that is not code-trolling and that could be interesting to keep
Wasn't that stricly twice?
which is why I suggest just banning code-trolling
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Q: What is the smallest positive base 10 integer that can be printed by a program shorter (in characters) than itself?

ArandurI think the question as above is clear, but just in case: Write a full program (not just a function) which prints a positive base 10 integer, optionally followed by a single newline. Qualifying programs will be those whose output is longer (in bytes) than the source code of the program, measure...

This one
you can print any integer if you're not trying to be competitive
@Fatalize I'm not so sure that's a problematic challenge. It has to print an integer longer than the program and a single integer
I don't see the challenge enforcing that the number is always the same though
@NathanMerrill I'd also ban , just as a precaution and because those challenges are a bit of an outlier
12:32
you could generate random numbers
@Sp3000 oh, that's a good one
I'm more concerned about people saying "this works for this challenge because the number is bigger than the code"
"Your submissions starts with an 'a'"
@Fatalize true, if you generate a single random number and output it, then the above would be valid.
however, I'll make that explicit in my challenge "If a challenge requires an output of X", and you output "XY" where Y is anything besides trailing spaces, the challenge is not valid
12:48
@TuxCopter wat
The browser console supports CSS
gtg
well yeah
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Q: Opacity from RGB array

Joe OwenSo I'm no expert in coding: I just have a vague understanding of a few bits and bobs. I understand that images of pixel dimensions X*Y are stored in array of size 3*X*Y where each vector pulled from a given (x,y) value has 3 elements for the 3 RGB values. I also understand that one can also st...

I need somebody to rehost i.imgur.com/AcOtNnV.png
13:04
why
o_O
13:21
@Dennis Regarding this answer, I tried the first program and got a different output than what you indicate. Running that output does produce the others (same output with one more repetition). Is there anything special going on in the first step?
TIO has a 100 KB limit, so it doesn't display all 900,031 output characters.
Ah, wait. I messed up a part of the explanation.
13:38
@LuisMendo Edited to clarify. This is why you shouldn't post answers at 3:30...
helicopter crash (it crashed without pilot or passengers)
Crashed, or just flipped by the wind? I've seen some light planes have that happen, but never a helo o_O
13:59
Dang it @Dennis You ninja'd me.
Blame Community. I got a notification for the VLQ flag it raised.
Haha, I saw it from the VLQ review queue
I'll delete my comment
14:16
@El'endiaStarman wait, are you starting work at agora?
my uncle works there
Huh combining characters mess up stupidly my terminal
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Whaaaat!
"I know your nephew as a cat with a hat on the internet"
@Fatalize First, I have to figure out/find out who the uncle is. :P
"He knows me as a sonic in front of impossible geometry"
gets fired for dementia
14:31
@El'endiaStarman tell me when I can see you on their front page
@NathanMerrill ....what for? =_=
"pics or it didn't happen" :P
Just a bit of light stalking. Nothing to worry about.
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Good morning/evening/afternoon :)
I was gonna say, I don't mind long walks, but not if I'm unaware of them.
14:33
good day
@El'endiaStarman Nice! When do you start :)
@Shebang December 5. A little more than two weeks from now.
@NathanMerrill :)
I see something above about the company being Agora, what is it? Googling Agora brings up a university book store
@Shebang Try "Agora Games".
So we're going to get to see your face on the home page soon? :P
Also that looks like an awesome place to work, congrats!
14:39
Thanks! :D
I had no idea they worked on Portal 2
@El'endiaStarman alex is his name
beyond that I'll leave a secret :p
@Shebang Hmm, I wonder how I missed that. But I do know they've worked on a lot of games (well, more properly, worked with a lot of game developers).
@El'endiaStarman are you working from home? Or an office nearby?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I'll be commuting every day. I'm not still in Kentucky. :P
anyone mind if i post a riddle in here
do it
(try not to google it, see if you can get it)
My first is often at the front door.
My second is found in the cereal family.
My third is what most people want.
My whole is one of the united states.
Welcomematwheatlove is a US state?
@El'endiaStarman two of those three are what I was thinking too, but no :P
14:47
@El'endiaStarman Looks like a lot of fun! If for some reason you ever meet with Ubisoft (particularly one of the script writers there, not sure why you would but who knows :P) you can say hi for me ;)
@flawr: You had me excited for a moment. :(
Though I'll bet you were thrown off by Youtube's change to indicating which videos you've seen already.
@El'endiaStarman For some reason I got a facebook entry of the 10nth in my feed now.
@flawr Ah, it's Facebook's fault.
Relevant xkcd:
When should I post the answer?
After I've looked up all the US states names
14:50
@Fatalize lulz i'm doing this too
i tried that, didnt help :(
Tell that to my answer: American Samoa
boom
@El'endiaStarman When are going to start at the new job?
nailed it
15 mins ago, by El'endia Starman
@Shebang December 5. A little more than two weeks from now.
14:51
@Poke Nope :P
s/Nope/Yup/
SUCCESS
Looking up the states will not help ;)
@El'endiaStarman Wow cool, so they pay you to work on PPCG 8h a day, right?
@flawr Yes, that is precisely the whole goal of Agora Games.
looking up the states of united-ness
14:52
Forgive me, but I couldn't be bothered and cheated. Last line should really read "My whole is a united state" IMO
@Shebang This is also true, notice united states is not capitalized
@Sp3000 Yeah, I think that last line was poorly worded. To make up for it, my coworker who asks these each week is doing a bonus one today since literally nobody got it
If you can answer the third part it should help :)
The second one really threw me off
There are a lot of countries with states…
I think misdirection is fun, but if it gets too far out then it's just plain unfair
my answer was Massachusetts (Mats -> Mass, chew (not really of the cereal family, but you chew when you eat cereal?) sits (people want to sit))
14:55
United States of Mind is an album by Covenant. Covenant is the alien species in the Halo series. Halo is the circle on angels' heads. Circles have no corners. Naughty children are sometimes sent to corners. Letters are also sent places. Letters are in words. Words make up the phrase "United States". Drat I'm back where I started...
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@Yodle …what?
this is impossible
@Fatalize It was a long stretch, but it was the only thing I could think of :(
@Poke That's basically how every conspiracy theory works
Think of the word states more literally
14:57
@Yodle I mean mats isn't even pronounced like mass…
@Fatalize it's kinda close
even in the alphabet
Just looked up the solution, at least my intuition for the third part was right…
@Poke You can't stop there. Once you go full circle, you'll see you have another halo. Twin halos can be used for two children's lack of corners. Then you have two letters, with twice as many words...
Well if you say them all together MatsChewSit, you can see how I got Massachusetts out of it :P I mean, I just couldn't find another state that matched other answers to the first three parts.
Even with Sp3000's change of wording, the final clue is still a long stretch
15:01
I certainly agree there, which is half the reason I don't visit Puzzling any more
Ha, too true
(also I didn't know the second word, which doesn't help)
I was surprised I didn't get voted for creative answer though, Opportunity (because it knocks) did. At least the syllables in mine matched most of questions, Opportunity only answers the first one >.>
@Geobits With twice as many words you could fill a book. Books have pages that are sometimes referred to as leaves. Leaves use photosynthesis for food and oxygen thus satiating their basic needs. What else needs food and oxygen? Aerobic bacteria. Bacteria can make people sick which is generally unwelcome. On the other hand mats are usually used outside the front door for welcoming. Mats->Mass->Bass->Base->Baseball. Baseball is a sport. The answer is a Toaster.
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All this thinking is making me tired.
I can't argue with that rock-solid logic
15:05
You only missed the heater connection between baseball and toaster. 9/10
nice
If I had it my way, it'd be "Union of three people hugging male amidst many (9)" or something
and the connection between watching a toaster and a baseball game
:p
That's the type of puzzle I can live with :P
In all seriousness I'm going to Google the answer if you don't tell me right meow
15:09
Matrimony (mat rye money).
Yeah I would never have gotten that
ever
Rye? really?
Yep :\
Yeah, that's why I didn't even bother trying :P
Rye is fine
Matrimony being a state is ridiculous
At least I was on the right track
18 mins ago, by Poke
looking up the states of united-ness
15:11
It's a united state
ba dum tss
Rye is definitely not fine in my book IMO, both spelling-wise and pronunciation-wise. But maybe that's just me
Not just you
Oh nvm rye is pronounced /raI/
Rye bread is great
so yeah ridiculous too
15:12
Yeah like eye but with an r
If you like the rye, you should also try the kaiser.
@Fatalize /raɪ/
Or maybe it's this I but I doubt
@Yodle Apologies if I was harsh, and also apologies for saying this, but does your coworker do this regularly (or are they usually better)?
@TuxCopter I don't have that short I on my keyboard, that's all
@Sp3000 Haha no it's okay, and most of the riddles have been pretty good besides this one. A bit too easy lately, so maybe that's why she went for this one this time.
15:19
:) k, I see
nobody upvote me anymore, i have the perfect amount of reputation
> 1337 reputation
:O
@GabrielBenamy What about downvote
@Poke you monster
Don't forget Geobits is in here
ME?! I... I would never!
15:21
Geobits is a living downvote, be careful
@GabrielBenamy Go for 13337 instead :P
Spelling is important after all. >_>
I don't even know what I'm saying any more.
@GabrielBenamy ono your leet reputation is borked
/sad trumpet
who did that
idek why that post has so many upvotes
I have a question about my rhombus challenge. Should I require the radius of circles to be drawn? Currently it is, but I don't know that it should be.
15:27
The fact that Fanatic has to be measured in a different timezone has screwed me up 3 times now :/
In the jungle you must wait until the dice read five or eight
Well, it's not every day you hear a Jumanji reference.
You're welcome
Oh, I didn't say thanks ;)
15:34
You didn't need to ;);)
RIP Robin
Too many faces ;););)
*starts sharpening hammer*
Actually, is there a general method of maintaining a hammer? Like sharpening knives or swords?
15:38
Probably not
I guess you could file it so the face is smooth
There's also shoving a wedge of wood or something similar into the joint between handle and head.
Probably grinding/smoothing the head if it gets nicked (too much).
or replacing the handle altogether
15:57
aaand we're back down to 40 bytes
☑ When presented with imperial units, I have no idea
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Taller than the only other person to answer so far :P
@DrMcMoylex ERR:LOCALE
Sorry, lol
16:01
As a Canadian everything is metric but I still weigh myself in lbs and measure my height in feet and inches, I guess I assumed other metric countries were like that
I guess it's easier to complain about the units than to do a quick conversion :P
I just got my Fellowship runtime from more than a minute to about a second
:)
Nice
@NathanMerrill Wow! What was the key improvement?
two, actually. Both were related to maps. I have a Range object (which defines the distance you can go on the map, as well as if its cardinal or not), and I had a function which grabbed all points within a Range of a single point. I used a static cache (as that will never change from game to game)
16:05
@Geobits It's not so much that, it's more getting a conversion result from Google and going "Oh, is that what I am? I'm going to assume you're correct because frankly I have no idea"
the second was that I was iterating through the entire map, finding all characters, then filtering
I changed that to iterating through all characters, and filtering them based on the map
so, instead of O(n), it was O(m) (where n is locations on the map and m is the characters on the map)
@EriktheGolfer ☑ When presented with non-imperial units, I have no idea
@Geobits Conversion would be quicker and easier, bit only complaining helps with the long-term issue that are imperial units.
16:07
@Dennis I never said I wouldn't do the same in reverse ;)
@EriktheGolfer I highly doubt anyone is < 0.5 M
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Hmm 0.546m. Close, not quite.
@DrMcMoylex What if someone is of an exotic human dwarf species we haven't discovered? Wait; can't I not remove voting ability for those?
Also, I think the shortest person in the world is <0.5m.
I totally agree that imperial is dumb, but I put up with it since I don't intuitively understand metric
@EriktheGolfer Nope, or definitely not an adult anyway
16:11
@EriktheGolfer Lawful Dwarf Valkyries are short, I believe
Babies are often born smaller than that, but that's about it.
Google says 0.67 M
@Geobits Oh, I checked it. You indeed say the truth this time. But, I don't think that people 50-60cm should anyways vote as being average.
Oh wait; Someone actually is shorter than <0.5m!
That's what makes internet polls so great.
16:21
This reminds me of the illegal drugs strawpoll.
My challenge title has 14 characters :/
Add an extra exclamation point or something
@mbomb007 That's like, a polyglot quine that will only agree to run in Python?
Ah, I forgot of that.
16:23
I have to avoid using certain characters and stuff. I decided that triple quoted strings would make it easier...
I'm not sure if I'll come to regret that decision.
I'm trying to make a solution in Python / Retina
The command prompt is now deprecated in favor of PowerShell in the latest Windows 10 build.
Oh no...Powershell takes a few seconds longer to start than the command prompt for me...
is group A test recording session still on for tonight?
Well it's about time. Batch sucks
PowerShell is very slow :(
16:27
@PhiNotPi ? Group A test recording was last week. Group B is tomorrow.
Group A's got the days off :D
@mınxomaτ Microsoft, Y U do dis?
> Group B (exl Phi) setup next week. First recording Group A next week, too. Same times, just add 7 days.
I've always experienced really slow response times in PS. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but still...
@PhiNotPi Whoops. Shouldn't annouce something at 3 AM. No Group A is free today.
okay
tfw u need a space in your code because -s explicitly means something other than 'subtract result of this substitution regex'
16:36
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Q: I really wanted a rhombus, but all I got was this stupid rectangle

GeobitsGiven only a straightedge and compass, inscribe a rhombus inside the given rectangle, sharing two opposite points. Input Input is the dimensions of the rectangle. In the example shown, that would be 125, 50. You can take input in whatever way is most convenient (as two integers, list, strings...

@NewMainPosts A+ title, @Geobits.
Well, it's more than 15 chars now anyway :)
Isn't a rectangle technically a rhombus?
Only if it's also a square
It needs to have equal side lengths to be a rhombus.
a square is the intersection of "rectangle" and "rhombus"
16:39
@GabrielBenamy Huh, I never thought of it that way. Pretty neat.
Ah true sorry I got confused
parallelogram != rhombus
But rhombus == parallelogram
I'd say rhombus ⊆ parallelogram
More lik
Ah ninja'd
I guess proper subset is probably more accurate, but whatever :D
16:43
Wait, so the rhombus will have to depend on the working lines?
Right. You have to draw it using lines/circles/points you can establish, not by using guesswork or equations.
So you can't pre-draw the rhombus and then draw the working lines to fit it?
@KritixiLithos Nope. Pretend you're working on paper here.
Without some working lines established, you can't prove each side is the same length.
@Geobits URL, 21 bytes, https://goo.gl/PnSvwC
Cool, you found multiple non-accepted loopholes :P
I'm not sure it works for all inputs though ;)
16:52
@NewMainPosts Sounds like a job for... Mathematica
@Geobits can you prove it's a rhombus?
I can construct the rhombus using compass and straightedge, but proving it's a rhombus is something else.
@GabrielBenamy I think it's fairly easy to use some similar-triangles theorem.
oh hey, that's true
Ooh, that's a nice graph.
16:58
@GabrielBenamy Consider the angle of intersection of the two diagonals.
I'm working on a formal proof right now.
@PhiNotPi -1 no triangle
If two adjacent angles in a quadrilateral are the same, that forces the shape to be an isoceles trapezoid, right?
@PhiNotPi -1 not enough JQuery
No wait, it doesn't since the two outer sides can be different lengths.
17:00
@PhiNotPi The relationship of cycling quadrilaterals would also be interesting=)
Cycling quadrilaterals?
you can also take a car
I remember that episode
@Dennis :-D I know what you mean
Does anyone even care about the proof
Didn't think so, lol
17:10
@Britons, what do you think about american accents?
We think british accents sound nice.
awkward silence
deep south accents are interesting
tbh with so much american media I barely consider american accents
17:26
Metallica's new album is actually good... is 2016 the oppoosite year?
Challenge idea: Given two circles, find out whether it is possible to draw a triangle inside the first circle such that the second circle is inside the triangle.
Should I make it a graphical output challenge?
Input: X-Y coordinates for center points and radii, output: truthy-falsy
has there been any challenge such as writing a program which outputs its own length, without simply printing a number (obviously comments are not allowed as well)?
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Q: Draw the Hilbert Curve

Jorge PerezA hilbert curve is a type of space-filling curve, and it basically maps a line to a plane. Each point in the line corresponds to just one point in the plane, and each point in the plane corresponds to just one point on the line. Shown are iterations 0 through 4 of the Hilbert Curve: Your task ...

> without simply printing a number
Wat
17:31
@Flp.Tkc You mean like this?
> "this string is forty-two bytes in length"
(counting quote marks)
Or one that counts instead of the human counting and hardcoding it?
no sorry, that was badly explained, I meant you can't just do something like print(8)
you can't include the output in the program
or is that considered too much of a do X without Y challenge :/
print(9+1)
What's the difference between "including the output" and print(8)?
typo
#!/bin/wc -c
17:35
anybody know of a good way to distribute a jar file? I need to be able to automate the uploading, and I want to replace the existing jar file with the latest uploaded one.
Oh. So more like quine.length() then?
yeah
but it seems to trivial to be a challenge
I was using a git branch but it was making pulling/cloning take forever
Does ^^^^^^ work? Can't test now
here's the solution: users must write a program that prints out the length of the string passed to it. If nothing (or an empty string) is passed in, then it must call itself with its source code
17:40
@betseg Doesn't work on the new TIO
Pretty similar to this challenge, just tacking a len to each output and the silly mod4 rule.
...yeah, the mod 4 is really bizarre
and to think I almost upvoted it
there's an interesting answer in seriously, using a quine builtin. what do people think about those?
By the way, is there any general consensus on scoring for Rule 184?
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Q: Draw the Serpinski Triangle

Jorge PerezFor today's fractal challenge, draw at least 5 iterations of Sierpinski's triangle! (Shown below is Sierpinski's trinagle) The resolution of the image must be sufficent that the smallest triangles are at least one pixel in size, and all triangles should be approximately equillateral - pixel ar...

17:48
Huh. Lots of [graphical-output] today. What have I started? o_o
this answer is super impressive to me:
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A: Draw A Sierpinski Triangle

HellMood80x86 Code / MsDos - 10 Bytes As a sizecoder specialized for very tiny intros on MsDos i managed to come up with a program that occupies only 10 bytes. in hex: 04 13 CD 10 20 E9 B4 0C E2 F6 in asm: X: add al,0x13 int 0x10 and cl,ch mov ah,0x0C loop X The first version i coded was "Colpi...

I can answer that in 0.125 bytes:

#Rule 110, 1 bit:
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Any python golfers here who have ideas to shorten this?
f=lambda s,h=5:1+f(s[1:],h+~2*(s[0]<>"Fly")+1)if(s and h)else h/2.
anyway who's getting the new pokemon games
@Fatalize I'm not the cat in that hat
that's dj
but shit i do have a hat
17:58
@GabrielBenamy I am, but I have to wait :(
@KritixiLithos TIO invokes interpreters explicitly, so shebangs are ignored. tio.run/#tUs4F works. (CC @betseg)
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ that's what a cat would say
@Dennis Ah, I see

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