The Nineteenth Byte

9:57 AM

@Qwerp-Derp Formerly known as "Hangouts hangouts!"

10:44 AM

Hey

Jonathan Allan

@Qwerp-Derp - 20 unknown random games but the same ones for each bot I hope....

...although I dont know if I'll even enter - game is tough for me

but looks pretty ready I think so ^vt

11:26 AM

Someone know a parser library (not generator) with integrated lexer for C (not C++)?

I don't want to end in horrible spaghetti code like for Neoscript

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11:46 AM

Nobody here? ;_;

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Code Inception code-challengecode-generation Inspired by both this codegolf.stackexchange answer and this puzzling.stackexchange question. Write code that outputs code, which when run outputs code, ..., which outputs inception. For example: (Copied from the puzzling.stackexchange.com link ab...

12:03 PM

Bot here

Q: Is Wolfram rule 126 a programming language?

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Just do it yourself?

Made one in C++, shouldn't be too much harder for C

Also why use C?

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According to our site's definition of a programming language a language needs to be capable of addition of natural numbers and primality testing of natural numbers. Of the elementary cellular automata, some are periodic and others are chaotic. Rule 110, which is in some sense near the border betw...

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Q: Draw an asterisk pattern

Inspired by a task for programming 101 here's a task that hopefully isn't too easy or is a duplicte (kinda hard to search for things like this). Input: A positive integer n >= 1. Output: Lines of asterisks, whereas every new line has one asterisk more than the line before. General rules:...

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12:52 PM

I sometimes seriously wonder if all the "Is this a scam?" questions on Money.SE are not just trolls

It really is hard to believe people fall for these kinds of things.

I can believe that people fall for ridiculous scams. I just can't believe those same people can find Money.SE ad type a question

Some people do, and that's what makes it worthwhile to scam them.

> I don't know if it's a scam because all they want is my name and online banking username and password.

...

Did you hear that from a rich Nigerian prince, who happens to be your long lost relative?

12:57 PM

"I had to get the bank account in my name because my dad has bad notices on his records for falling for fraud traps and asking for refunds too many times"

And then they ask "is this a scam?"… really?

Oh I saw that one :/

Q: Is it a scam if the person only wants to deposit into my account, not make a withdrawal?

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A man in west coast Austria wants to deposit money into my account. I'm in Alabama I had to get a online account. I did that but he says his bank manger needs all this information: DOB SSN online access username online access password security question and answer bank name...

online-banking scams

"A man in west coast Austria"

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@HelkaHomba since you mentioned that online snake game curvefever.com long ago, have you seen slither.io? Has the advantage of not needing flash, and it's ongoing so you don't have to arrange to be online at the same time as others

@Fatalize Sounds like they're filtering out anyone with any knowledge of geography to get a better ratio of gullible targets

I wonder how many scams are deliberately obvious for that reason

I love slither.io. it's a blast

Much better than agar.io or the majority of online FTP quick-join multiplayer games

agar.io: move three seconds, die

1:08 PM

Yeah pretty much. I think slither is much more balanced

I'm more successful at agar.io than slither.io ;_;

Has there been a challenge about simply reversing an input list with no built-ins?

@Fatalize What counts as a built-in for that? [-1:]?

I think Erik posted one that got super downvoted

@TimmyD what kind of syntax is that

1:11 PM

@trichoplax What about splix?

@TimmyD You mean [::-1]?

@Fatalize Yeah, that one was rich.

Q: Reverse a 1-dimensional array

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"-22" good lord

-22. Damn

@ASCII-only Sure. I'm not a Pythoner.

1:13 PM

That's the all-time low

Don't know why this is much more downvoted than things like hello world

@trichoplax I have heard that this is why spam emails usually have poor spelling and grammar. Smart people are less valuable than dumb people because they catch on quick, so if you try to scam smart people, you're wasting time and money. Therefore, the trick is to have the smart people remove themselves from the process.

@ASCII-only That one's new to me - looks interesting too

Smart/dumb here doesn't have to mean anything other than who can spot and avoid a scam.

What the hell is that new avatar @quartata

1:16 PM

14 hours ago, by quartata

This is just for Halloween

@El'endiaStarman I guess gullible/wary is the split they want to make. Someone can be intelligent but gullible, or unintelligent but still cautious

Isn't Halloween supposed to be at the end of October?

@trichoplax Yeah, that's a much better way to put it.

reaper of souls and connoisseur of terrible modern art

Poke

@DJMcMayhem Why do questions that are downvoted this much often still get a good deal of answers before they're closed/deleted? There are 20 answers on this one

1:18 PM

@Poke Easy is independent from bad/uninteresting.

Because this one is not deleted/closed

Poke

@El'endiaStarman fair

@Fatalize It got downvoted into oblivion because of the extremely rigid input format. Take a look at the revision history.

The main reason this one got such a bad score is because at the beginning it had an awful input format

@Poke That's actually something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been meaning to write something on meta about that, but i haven't gotten around to it yet

1:21 PM

@quartata Good gravy. Nightmare on Pokémon street.

@TimmyD Well, that and the... how do I say this tactfully... argumentative personality of the OP

I don't understand why you would answer a challenge that you have downvoted

$$REP$$

No idea really

Usually when I answer a challenge with a bad score I actually liked it. Not really the case here

@Poke Doesn't the site restrict you from deleting the question if there are already answers (that themselves aren't deleted)? I had thought I read that somewhere.

too many downvotes for all the answers to come from people not involved in that

1:25 PM

@TimmyD Yeah. You can't self-delete a question that has any upvoted answers.

@TimmyD Yes, that's correct. Mods can do it, of course, but they're always the exception. :P

It makes me really happy to see that V is competitive when it outgolfs vim by over a factor of 2.

@DJMcMayhem Is someone attempting to summon Cthulu in your challenge? I don't recognize the commenter's language at all.

I have no clue. I just flagged it and moved on

@TimmyD Needs more fh

1:32 PM

I don't think it's even a real language. I think it's just garbage

Wait, election day is the 8th of november? That's a lot earlier than I thought

Shoot, I should probably register. lol

Why? Your vote doesn't matter, Trump isn't gonna win… or is he

If it's not too late. The deadline here is pretty much now.

grabs popcorn for the following weeks

1:35 PM

@DJMcMayhem Well, according to the use profile, the person is from India, so it could be a regional dialect or something.

@Fatalize Uh, it's always been the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

@Fatalize There's other stuff worth voting on. I don't have much hope in the presidential election, but that's not the entire thing

@TimmyD Huh, from memories of earlier elections I always thought that they were in late november/december

@TimmyD Which is a very silly sounding explanation, IIDSSM.

^ almost as silly as that acronym

:D

1:36 PM

@DJMcMayhem Right. A huge portion of Congress is up for reelection.

(Yes, I had to look up what it stands for)

And medical marijuana, at least here.

@Fatalize Oh, I didn't know it was a thing people actually used. I was just too lazy to type it out.

Oh really? We're waaaay ahead of you guys over here.

… you come up with acronyms because you're lazy?

@DJMcMayhem It was on the ballot here last time around, but it failed with only 58% approving :/

1:38 PM

... That's a majority though

@Fatalize Just too lazy to type it all out

@TimmyD He also has 15k rep on SO. I think he was trying to type something on a phone and grossly failed or something

@DJMcMayhem Could've been set to 66% as the threshold for passing.

@DJMcMayhem Yeah. People were pissed, but it was on the ballot as an amendment, which requires 60%.

Ooh, I was close.

1:39 PM

State laws are weird

Interesting. Maybe you'll get it this time around

Probably so. We'll see soon enough.

@El'endiaStarman They actually set it to 420%

Of course if the feds just rescheduled it as a lower class of drug, the states wouldn't have to do this piecemeal and take thirty years on it, but...

@Fatalize Apparently, it's not been always the first Tuesday after the first Monday -- that was only fixed on Jan 23, 1845. So ... you obviously must have some memories from past-lives floating around in your head.

1:43 PM

On another note, why is it that there are two months between the election and when the person actually becomes POTUS?

Because horses are slow

wat

...I just tried googling how to specify multiple recipients for mail, and I got a whole page of results for email.

And I'm not sure how much of that is because of my prior search history...

@Fatalize 29 days till ~~the apocalypse~~ the US election

@Sherlock9 dis gun b gud

1:45 PM

@Fatalize It used to be the following March IIRC, so that the news could spread around the country and all that. It got moved up to January once that didn't take multiple months, but there is still a lot of work to be done by the incoming president, like making appointments and hiring staff.

points at a cool gun dis gun b gud

And the outgoing President has to have time to wrap things up.

Right, President Obama needs to time to hide the launch codes :D

Pardon all the things

I guess in the US mandates are only 4 years so using up 2 more months to prepare is not a bad idea

1:48 PM

Plus, they have to get decorators in the White House :P

get a new assistant for Clinton's husband, etc. etc.

Yeah, they'll probably spend most of that time trying to figure out what to call him. First Lady Bill doesn't suit him well.

Oh right I forgot that it would be the first woman POTUS

First Lord?

Nah, we don't do Lords over here.

1:50 PM

"just-keep-your-mouth-shut-please" Bill

It wasn't his mouth that was not shut

I've heard First Gentleman as an option, but it's a bit awkward to my ear.

How about just "first person"

First Man

First Husband?

1:52 PM

@quartata It's Hillary

@quartata I think they'd have to rename the first-person shooter genre then :P

@Geobits Oh dear

@betseg Then, everything changed, when the First Lord attacked.

(Avatar: The Last Airbender reference for those who don't get it.)

+1 for ref, -1 for explaining it

I have this weird thing where if I don't drink enough water, I start feeling bad and then die of dehydration.

2:02 PM

No, -1 for explaining it unprompted

I moved my repos from GitHub to GitLab. About a month later, GitHub is banned. Foresightedness.

Well done, mate

-1 for making the explanation too easy to see, I'd put it in a link at most

@DJMcMayhem I don't think I have one of those, is this a bad thing

Yeah probably

I have this weird thing where if I don't drink enough water, I become dehydrated and die.

Did you copy paste the caption or wrote it?

2:06 PM

Wrote it, which is why it's wrong

@DJMcMayhem I have this weird thing where if I don't drink enough water, I don't become dehydrated

:O

Because I drink other things

\o/ Golfed 12 keystrokes off my "simulate keystrokes" answer.

Things that include water :P

2:08 PM

@ASCII-only ...that have water in them?

Maybe I can beat jelly if I switch to V

Damn...ninja'd

@Geobits But not pure water

If you drank pure water long enough you wouldn't have enough minerals.

I don't eat spoonfuls of "pure caffeine", but I'd never claim I'm not caffeinated at all times ;)

2:09 PM

@betseg You can get minerals from other sources

Sometimes I just eat things with water in them

That doesn't count as drinking water, right?

See: Geobits' message

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@flawr possibly nsfw but hilarious

Why am I still writing answer when I hit the rep-cap hours ago?

For the love of the game?

I've noticed that most of us live in dry climates.

Dennis

2:21 PM

@ASCII-only Sure it does. You could survive without drinking anything by eating the right fruits/vegetables.

@betseg Put me down in the "not even close to dry" climate list.

confusedandamused

@Rainbolt or anyone else - can someone offer some suggestions on what to use for a code VCS? We're using TFS, but we really dislike how it works. Currently aren't using any branches or PR reviews or anything

Would Gitlab/Gogs/Bitbucket be best?

@betseg Haha, the average annual rainfall in my town is 16 inches. lol

So, yeah definitely dry

Average here is 62 inches, or 157cm (with the US average being 37 inches)

69 cm here (27")

2:25 PM

Google says 40-60 in/100-151 cm here

50 inches of snow though

We had some snow 5 years ago

@ASCII-only I think you missed a decimal point somewhere o_O

Probably mm?

> 1512

2:26 PM

@Geobits Oh yeah

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It hasn't snowed since I've been living here... around four years.

Stupid Florida and their stupid weather.

On the plus side, it was just under 60F this morning, so I guess summer is finally getting over with.

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Help with my Halloween decoration The Halloween is upon us, and I haven't decorated my house yet, so I gonna need your help to do this task Input The input will be a list of 4 digits numbers, where each digit represent a portion of decoration: EMBU < 4 digit number | | | |-upper decoration | ...

@Geobits woot

Same here

2:49 PM

It hasn't snowed where I am since the last ice age

I would be glad if it doesn't snow here in the tropics for several thousand more years :D

The last Ice Age was this year, so that's not very impressive.

> The Pleistocene Epoch is typically defined as the time period that began about 1.8 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago. The most recent Ice Age occurred then, as glaciers covered huge parts of the planet Earth.

Source: google.com/…

So I :P in your general direction

LiveScience clearly doesn't watch bad children's movies.

What? Snow is the best. I love it

I understand, and I would be willing to travel to see snow. But if it snows this close to the equator something has gone terribly wrong

2:55 PM

> By this definition, we are in an interglacial period—the Holocene—of the ice age that began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist.

From Wikipedia

Since the last Snowball Earth age then

Hmm. The more I look at that LiveScience page, the less I like it. What kind of science site has ads like this:

@Geobits To be honest, I just googled ice age period and got the quote Google gave me. Didn't open the site

I figured that from the link ;)

Nathan Merrill

@Geobits looks like hard science to me

2:57 PM

Very hard.

@Geobits you need adblocker

I have adblock and adblockplus running, believe it or not. It looks like these are some sort of js to get around it.

Report to easylist

Meh.

I don't really plan to ever visit the site again, so I'm not that worried about it.

Woah github is unbanned

3:06 PM

You know it's bad when that's the best thing that's happening in your country right now.

glances at presidential election

We had a writer

Who said

> The referendum had 92% yes votes. I would've said all of them were idiot people, but I want to be optimistic. 60% of the Turkish people are idiots.

He got sued, won, and it's registered that 60% of Turkish people are idiots.

Lol. Is that number accurate in your experience?

Not in where I live

But yes for other parts of Turkey

"The people are always dumber on the other side" :P

Q: Acceptable ways of using Input and Output variables in Brachylog

Where do you think 8% came from :P

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(This might apply to other languages though I do not know any. I have not found any fitting rule in this meta post: this question is here to hopefully fill this gap. Since this is very specific I don't think it will be of much use in said meta post) In Brachylog, the main predicate that is queri...

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@ASCII-only 'Cuz C is superior

Anonymous

3:57 PM

@Sherlock9 The main issue I see with the code is that it's quadratic, and uses ╓ (which takes an absurd amount of time for large values)

Anonymous

That algorithm is not going to meet the time requirements, no matter how many micro-optimizations are made

Rainbolt

@confusedandamused What do you dislike about TFS? That might help others make better recommendations

What is TFS?

Rainbolt

Team Foundation Server

kthx

Ugh Microsoft sauce GitHub

Rainbolt

4:05 PM

But in this context he is actually asking about TFVC (Team Foundation Version Control), not TFS. The two acronyms are used interchangeably sometimes.

You can use TFS with Git instead

Optimizer

CMC: nulls in various languages

@Optimizer Most sane languages, null

Ruby: nil

Optimizer

void inclusive

undefined inclusive too

Halp I need to tokenize a lot of tokens but I don't have regexs ;_;

In Perl: I don't even know

4:09 PM

»  perl -e 'print $$'
16840

dafuq perl

That's its process ID.

k

AKA the cheapest source of a random number.

It's "more random" if your uptime is high.

But to get another random number you need to fork...

4:22 PM

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Nah, you can use it as a seed.

@Mego Rats. Thanks for the tips. I haven't the faintest what to change the algorithm to, so any advice in that regard would be great

Wait, what is the difference between an async function and a normal one?

python.org/dev/peps/pep-0492 The await thingy is exactly the same as calling directly the function...

Lynn

4:44 PM

Uh someone just downvoted a Python answer of mine I’m pretty proud of. Without leaving a comment or anything. Thanks?

What answer?

Lynn

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/95003/3852 Mysteeeerious

I spent a bunch of time looking for a%42%39%9^2 and it’s so nifty ;A;

@Optimizer What do you mean?

Hm, the latest Windows Build managed to brick both my AMD and Intel test PCs. I wouldn't recommend to try it.

4:59 PM

Huh

;_; WSL don't support arrow keys

Sure it does.

Wait no it does

My terminal emulator is borked ok

Wait wat why internet don't work in WSL

WSL cannot be hosted in any terminal emulator. Even ConEmu just fakes it. The wrapping Bash executable will actually detect if it's hosted, and try to quit. The only safe way to run it is using CMD (or an X app like lxterm or terminator).

k

???

Oh wait I need to run it as root

> Unable to resolve host ELIE-ASUS

???

It seems you host config is mixed up. What did you do?

5:04 PM

IDK

No, I mean, what exactly did you do. I.e. anything in your history you've done since installing WSL.

That's related to something networkish

Nothing related to networking

Nuke it and re-install. Also check your firewall and network location settings in Windows. WSL uses Windows' network protection BS.

I don't think I have anything in my firewall that can bork WSL

Anyway, Brb reinstalling WSL

Still can't connect to the interweb ;_;

Then something is blocking the access. Firewall, AV, something.

WSL has no power over the NIC, that's all Windows.

5:20 PM

It's not the firewall or the AV

@quartata Hey, I bet CG would be great at my last challenge...

Actually, I just want to see how competitive it would be

Compression is always competitive :P

I got my ghost blog setup :D staging.vihan.org

._. I tried to answer DJ's challenge in FEU:

m/0/pppppppp/1/PPPPPPPP/d/......../g
__DATA__
rnbqkbnr
0
d
d
d
d
1
RNBQKBNR

It's longer than the original text

@Downgoat Beautiful blog lol

;_;

5:30 PM

That's always disappointing

@Downgoat I think you need to start the server, no?

It must of turned off on background

Martin Ender

twitch

?

5:33 PM

Apache is a bit overkill just to forward Ghost. Ghost+nginx is usually the choice.

staging.vihan.org/id_rsa

;_;

Conor O'Brien

@MartinEnder is retina supposed to work on windows? It doesn't seem to work on my computer.

brain------------------------------------------------------fuck…

How does this emulate unbounded cells?

I don't speak uncommented brainfuck

Martin Ender

@ConorO'Brien I've only ever tested it on Windows.

What's not working?

(In my experience, most problems under Windows stem from carriage returns and PowerShell)

Don't let Timmy hear