The Nineteenth Byte

Downgoat

12:57 AM

Someone needs to make a Whython that actually works...

it would be a great programming language

Conor O'Brien

Whython?

Downgoat

it doesn't actually work tho

lemme see if i can find a python implementation which i can change tokenizer easily enoghu

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

applescript is weird.

It lets me do quoted form of oneItem as string, where oneItem is a variable, as string converts a var to a string, and quoted form of adds quotes to a string. But what order???

Conor O'Brien

did you read the docs?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

(I'm just saying it's unintuitive)

Downgoat

1:07 AM

huh cpython's tokenizer's code is almost as ugly as cheddar's

i didn't know that was possible

there are like 0 comments

Anonymous

@Downgoat Any code written in C is automatically ugly

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat but you have comments

Downgoat

No, I mean code is badly written

Anonymous

It's C though. Efficiency over readability

Anonymous

Micro-optimizations are abundant in the CPython code

Downgoat

1:12 AM

I'm not talking about just code

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mego comments don't reduce effciency

we have a "preprocessor"

Downgoat

header files and .c files are messy and laid out without much thought and all

also I'm looking at the tokenizer

c compiler should be doing optimizations

quartata

@Downgoat Micro-optimizations not macro-optimizations

Header files by nature are hard to restructure

Downgoat

@quartata removing comments is not any optimization

quartata

The tokenizer is probably generated

Downgoat

1:15 AM

it might slow down compile time my miniscule fractions of a second but otherwise there is no excuse

@quartata I'm looking at tokenizer generator source code

it loads a grammar file and executes it

quartata

It probably never needed to be touched again. Grammar is what matters

Downgoat

Thing is the grammar module needs to be modified for most changes to the grammar file

quartata

Weak excuse but usually code that isn't touched is bad not the other way around

@Downgoat For a lexer?

Downgoat

Wait wat

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

gonna eat pizza that's been sitting in oven, applescripts are so hard to debug

Downgoat

1:25 AM

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC y are u using AppleScript?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Downgoat because it is the only way to access apple APIs

quartata

You know you can just send events from Objective C right

Anonymous

Or you could not use Objective C and be much happier

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

^^

Downgoat

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC brb adding features to cheddar

@quartata swift too?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

1:29 AM

I'd rather code five lines of Applescript than setup an entire freaking objective c project

Downgoat

or something coca

quartata

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC What are you trying to do?

Downgoat

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I'd rather have an entire obj-c proj then 5 lines of AppleScript that don't work

Conor O'Brien

hehe

quartata

I'm rather ashamed to admit I have AppleScript experience

It was a while ago though

Conor O'Brien

1:35 AM

me similarly: all my programs are really just results of a weighted RNG. I don't know what I'm doing and am pleasantly surprised that it's working so far

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

1:53 AM

@quartata help me debug my script pls

tell application "Finder"
	set theSelection to selection
	repeat with oneItem in theSelection
		do shell script "/Users/CENSORED/some_script"
	end repeat
end tell

some_script doesn't execute

quartata

2:08 AM

do shell script executes as if you typed it at a prompt. So make sure your script has a shebang and is executable

Also you can do repeat with ... in (get selection)

I don't remember how Finder handles selection; it's different for everything. Probably wouldn't hurt to print it out to see what you are getting too

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@quartata 1. yes it works in terminal 2. using display notification with oneItem as string successfully prints the path

quartata

What are you doing with oneItem anyways

PhiNotPi

2:37 AM

TODO: develop perfect pitch

DJMcMayhem

What I wouldn't do for perfect pitch...

My relative pitch is okay, but there is definitely some room for improvement.

Sherlock9

2:49 AM

Hey @Mego, can I ask for a favor? I doubt it will take more than a few minutes

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 You can always ask for a favor. Whether or not I'll perform the favor depends on the favor. :P

Sherlock9

Oh it's simple. You know that unlucky numbers challenge I've been trying to test for a week now?

Anonymous

Yeah

Sherlock9

Since you have Linux, pypy3, and Seriously up and running, could you test U(10,100) and U(20,100) with this code and see how long it takes?

Anonymous

Sure thing

Sherlock9

2:52 AM

That way I have some idea of whether or not U(1e6,100) will too long or not

Anonymous

Fair warning: my Linux server is a potato

Sherlock9

Thanks a bunch

Ah hell. Run it anyway. My WSL can't get any CPU time for some reason

Anonymous

U(10,100) took about 30 seconds (output 52945)

Anonymous

U(20,100) took about 1 minute and 45 seconds (output 106297)

Sherlock9

75 seconds extra? Weird. Could you use pypy3, or were you already doing that?

PhiNotPi

3:06 AM

@DJMcMayhem here's a strategy I'm trying right now... try to remember a single pitch as long as possible.

As in... pick a note and hum it... check every few minutes to see if you still remember it, gradually trying to remember it for longer periods of time.

DJMcMayhem

Oh, that sounds like I good strategy

A?

Anonymous

Oh right pypy

Anonymous

I was using CPython

PhiNotPi

I picked C right now. 15 minutes is my record.

DJMcMayhem

Let me know how well it works for you

Sherlock9

3:15 AM

@Mego Welp :P Any luck?

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 I'm working on installing seriously under pypy

Sherlock9

Oh, I see

Anonymous

2:17 for U(10,100) under pypy3... Something isn't right

Sherlock9

O_o No, not at all

Anonymous

I suspect that Seriously's code isn't written in a manner that would benefit from pypy

Anonymous

3:22 AM

For reference, I'm using pypy3.3-v5.2.0-alpha1-linux32

Sherlock9

Yeah, that's the same version I'm using. Very strange

Anonymous

4:34 on U(20,100)

Sherlock9

Well, at least it's consistent

Sigh

Thanks, Mego

Qwerp-Derp

Hello

@Sherlock9 Are you doing the "unlucky number" challenge?

I should probably accept the answer

Anonymous

3:38 AM

You're welcome :)

Qwerp-Derp

Do you guys play Atomas?

DJMcMayhem

No. Should I?

Qwerp-Derp

Yes.

Also I made an Atomas clone, I'm thinking of making a code-challenge for it.

To get the highest score using a bot.

Should the challenge of getting the highest points in Atomas be a code-challenge or a king-of-the-hill?

DJMcMayhem

CC, unless the bots fight against each other directly

Qwerp-Derp

Ah

So I've got the Atomas "engine"

It's in Python

Do I just post the engine and hope for the best?

Sherlock9

3:55 AM

@Qwerp-Derp I'm trying to

All the Actually answers I came up with take too long for U(1e6, 100)

I think I should go delete it for now

@Qwerp-Derp Don't accept mine

It doesn't work fast enough

Qwerp-Derp

Wait what

Ah

Sherlock9

The CJam answer is better and actually works :D

PhiNotPi

humble brag/frustration/gloating moment So there's two main levels of discrete math taught by my university (both fulfill the same degree requirement, one has more emphasis on theoretical math). I wanted to take the upper level, but couldn't because I haven't taken (and never will take) the "transition to advanced math" class. Right now I'm sitting with over a 100 in the lower level class.

PhiNotPi

4:10 AM

Wow one of my friends just got engaged... make me feel old.

Geobits

4:39 AM

@PhiNotPi You're not getting old til they start getting divorced ;)

Maltysen

have you guys seen this?:

Vermin Supreme: When I'm President Everyone Gets A Free Pony

►

Geobits

Never was a fan of Vermin Supreme. Too much sour cream for my tastes.

I kinda almost wanna vote for him though.

Wtf autocorrect? O_o

Maltysen

> He was, however, not invited to return to the Lesser-Known Democratic Candidates Presidential Forum, due in part to him glitterbombing Randall Terry at the event in 2011. - Wikipedia.

Geobits

But... Glitter bombs make everything better, don't they?

New Sandboxed Posts

5:09 AM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Solve the N-Queens problem Given a N by N chess board, write a program or function that determines a placement of N queens on the board, where no queens are on the same row, column, or diagonal, and print the position each queen is in. Examples N: 4 Possible board: a b c d 1 - Q - - 2 - - -...

Helka Homba

5:26 AM

@Maltysen Yes, 4 years ago :P

Helka Homba

5:36 AM

Any advice for how to upload my YT videos + metadata (tags, desc, thumbnail, etc) in a more automated way? I see 3 options:
1. Have AutoIt do every thing manually (con: subject to exact YT gui layout that changes a lot)
2. Use JS + bookmarklet (con: can't automate open file dialog (I think))
3. Use the YT API (con: more complex and no visual feedback, can't change things on the fly)
Is there a 4th option?

betseg

5:51 AM

Lol dropbox is banned in Turkey as of yesterday

There are more than 8000 banned sites

Google drive and onedrive too

Helka Homba

How come?

betseg

Dunno. They just ban stuff.

Oh ok I got it.

Redhack hacked government related emails and uploaded to these services

Helka Homba

Uh huh

Sounds really lame for people who need to transfer big files over the cloud :/

betseg

ikr

Vpns are expensive too

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32808035#32808035 (in total. not banned yesterday)

betseg

6:08 AM

I think i haven't said that imgur is banned too

Qwerp-Derp

7:28 AM

Hello

betseg

.o/

Qwerp-Derp

Listening to ERB

betseg

7:43 AM

Which one

Qwerp-Derp

Currently listening to Hitler vs Vader 2

Qwerp-Derp

8:06 AM

So here's my bot thingo for Atomas

# Pytomas (an Atomas build for Python)
# Author: Qwerp-Derp

from random import randint

# Initial variables
element_table = []
atom_range = [1, 3]
specials_list = ["+"] * 6 + ["-"] * 3 + ["B", "C"]
carry_over = " "
moves = 0
score = 0

# Initialises starting list
for a in range(6):
    element_table.append(randint(atom_range[0], atom_range[1]))


# Processing for Plus atom
def plus_process():
    global element_table
    final_atom = 0

    def plus_code_block():
        # Main code block for plus

I think this is good enough for publishin'

Jonathan Allan

@Downgoat you around? What do you mean by "not a proper ASCII representation" are there non-ASCII characters that crept in?

Qwerp-Derp

@JonathanAllan D'you think this challenge idea is good?

Jonathan Allan

which? Mine?

Qwerp-Derp

My Atomas challenge

To get the highest score in my port of Atomas

(Code is above)

Jonathan Allan

What is Atomas?

Qwerp-Derp

8:16 AM

Uhhh

here

@JonathanAllan?

Jonathan Allan

no idea man

Qwerp-Derp

So is it a good challenge?

Jonathan Allan

Does not describe game play

Qwerp-Derp

I'll describe it

Jonathan Allan

OK

Have you sandboxed it?

Qwerp-Derp

8:20 AM

Nope

And I don't really plan to...

Jonathan Allan

OK

I think with something potentially complex you probably should (I should obviously have even sandboxed my latest, but thought it was unnecessary due to simplicity)

disheartening to spend time making something then the first 3 votes are all down

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien About your number regex sandbox post, maybe you could add a requirement to be able to match parts of arrays (like regex?) i.e. in an example language twins may be (.+)\1, and given [1, 2, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7] it should return [[[2, 3], [7]]], or [[2, 3]] the first time it's called and [[7]] when it's called again or something, hopefully this will make Jelly and APL less suitable for these tasks?

betseg

@Qwerp-Derp Welcome to Programming Puzzles and Code Golf. This is a good challenge; well done! In future, I would recommend using the sandbox before posting a challenge.

:P

Qwerp-Derp

@betseg LOL

Jonathan Allan

@Qwerp-Derp - why are you using a module like a singleton?

"# Your bot here" no API is directly apparent

Qwerp-Derp

8:33 AM

@JonathanAllan Wat

Jonathan Allan

you have made a bunch of functions which have no arguments and define a load of module scoped variables at the top...

makes it hard to comprehend...

how can I try your .py code? only thing it displays is the game over message , and needs a bot to be created to actually do anything...

maybe some non-bot interface or a simple bot that dispays state as it goes so one can see whats going on?

Qwerp-Derp

Yeah, I can give you the non-bot interface

Jonathan Allan

cool

Qwerp-Derp

# Pytomas (an Atomas build for Python)
# Author: Qwerp-Derp

from random import randint

# Initial variables
element_table = []
atom_range = [1, 3]
specials_list = ["+"] * 6 + ["-"] * 3 + ["B", "C"]
carry_over = " "
moves = 0
score = 0

# Initialises starting list
for a in range(6):
    element_table.append(randint(atom_range[0], atom_range[1]))


# Processing for Plus atom
def plus_process():
    global element_table
    final_atom = 0

    def plus_code_block():
        # Main code block for plus

Jonathan Allan

in order to post you will need to write up an explanation of the rules I think...

Qwerp-Derp

8:39 AM

(It's just the code, slightly edited)

I'm writing down the rules as we speak

Jonathan Allan

ok:)

what Py version are you using?On 3.3 (that I'm in) it would need to cast input to an int.

and raw_input not here

ASCII-only

Hack:

if not hasattr(__builtins__, "raw_input"):
    raw_input = input
    input = lambda prompt: eval(raw_input(prompt))
if not hasattr(__builtins__, "basestring"):
    basestring = str

Jonathan Allan

(Y)

ASCII-only

You can just check Python version as well, but I was too lazy so I just did this

Jonathan Allan

I just put int() around the input and changed raw_input to input to just make it work on 3.3

Qwerp-Derp

8:50 AM

@JonathanAllan It's in Python 2

Because I have Python 2

betseg

9:11 AM

@El'endiaStarman ;_;

flawr

9:47 AM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ^ a relative of yours?

ASCII-only

pumpkin-crash

New Sandboxed Posts

10:24 AM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Play Atomas! Your task make a bot that plays Atomas, with the highest score. Here is a (very long) run-down of how this game (or at least, my port of the game) works: You start off with a ring of 6 "atoms", between the values of 1 and 3. You have a chance to get special atoms: The + atom, w...

Qwerp-Derp

Ayy I posted the thing

New Main Posts

12:23 PM

0

Q: Correlation Coefficient of Words

This is going to be relatively quick... Challenge Given a lower-case word as input, calculate the Pearson's Correlation Coefficient between the letter position of the word (nth letter within the word, x), and the letter position within the alphabet (nth letter of the alphabet, y). Background ...

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

12:40 PM

Question: How did it go from "Wikia, home of Fandom" to "Fandom, powered by Wikia"?

Jonathan Allan

12:54 PM

@Downgoat - when you are about... I have updated the ASCII logo challenge to elucidate on some portions of the pattern.

betseg

1:45 PM

Holy fuck

GitHub is banned too

(in Turkey)

Sherlock9

If you don't show up in chat tomorrow, we'll know that they banned SE, too

6

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@betseg ???

New Main Posts

2:00 PM

0

Q: Visualize sorting

Say I have a list such as [3, 0, 4, 2, 1], and I use selection sort to sort it, I could visualize it like this: 3,0,4,2,1 |-| 0,3,4,2,1 |-----| 0,1,4,2,3 |-| 0,1,2,4,3 |-| 0,1,2,3,4 This challenge is about visualizing sorting like this. Input Your input will be a list of positive...

code-golf sorting

betseg

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Erdoğan...

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@betseg ?????

quartata

@betseg Maybe time to consider moving

betseg

i do

Do you know any country that accept 16-year olds

Conor O'Brien

I hear canada is very receptive

quartata

2:07 PM

Isn't Turkey a parliamentary republic? How did this happen?

El'endia Starman

The downside to moving to Canada is that there is a non-negligible chance that Trump will be your neighbor's president.

That said, probably still better than what's going on in Turkey, so move away. :P

quartata

s/non-//

Conor O'Brien

then again, with a country as "loud" as america would thereafter be, it'd be kind of hard to ignore the loud kid screaming in the street

betseg

@El'endiaStarman brah our neighbour is syria

@quartata %50 one party %50 three parties

quartata

Ah. That sucks.

If you don't feel like moving too far you could try Italy or Spain perhaps

betseg

2:19 PM

The only thing i want is leaving turkey ;_; idc about distance

quartata

Any weather preferences? :P

betseg

Well, I'm in İzmir, as hot as Spain and Italy, Canada would be nice :P

quartata

Are you sure you want to move to the place where they eat french fries with gravy and cheese curds

betseg

> I'm sending a pull request to America, please merge me to your country. I swear I won't cause any conflict.

2

^ my friend shared on Facebook

quartata

Hahahahahaha

DJMcMayhem

2:23 PM

@quartata are you kidding me? Poutine is incredible

quartata

@DJMcMayhem No I know. I was just kidding

I used to make poutine at home until I realized it was terrible for me and that cheese curds are tough to find here

DJMcMayhem

@betseg I'm totally not biased or anything, but you should move to Colorado.

betseg

2dry4me

quartata

Don't do it. Move to California instead we have good universities good jobs and avocados

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@quartata can u juic avocad in califurna

quartata

2:28 PM

Yes. Juicing things seems to be a trend here

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Drought still bad?

quartata

Yeah. We got a fair bit of heavy rain from el nino this year which helped but

My area isn't really affected but in NoCal it's worse

betseg

CMC: Part I: Hack into the Turkish, and any Western European or North American government, and make me not Turkish. Part II: Hack into an airline and arrange a flight for me.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:46 PM

@quartata wat

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg governments have bad security

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

why would they have that

betseg

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Turkish citizens database is on torrent!

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ US Army hacked -> it was SQL Injection

@betseg ./torrentspoof -evasion 012345678

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC lol you should look at the U.S.'s whole TSA show

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

2:52 PM

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ ?

betseg

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC wat iz dis

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg doesn't exist :/

nikto will accept -evasion 012345678, it does IDS evasion if you have libwhiskers installed

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Transportation Security Administration, it provides all the metal detectors and stuff

(they still haven't caught any terrorists)

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

(just look at the NSA) (google "kurzgesagt safe and sorry")

:32811939 ❯ nikto -h codegolf.stackexchange.com -evasion 012345678
- Nikto v2.1.5
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ Target IP:          151.101.1.69
+ Target Hostname:    codegolf.stackexchange.com
+ Target Port:        80
+ Using Encoding:     Random URI encoding (non-UTF8)
+ Using Encoding:     Directory self-reference (/./)
+ Using Encoding:     Premature URL ending
+ Using Encoding:     Prepend long random string
+ Using Encoding:     Fake parameter

Nikto output:

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Watched that already

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

2:56 PM

(did I refer you?)

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Someone referred me to the "Time" Soundcloud URL

And then I binge-watched all the Kurzgesagt videos

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

(it was me, I sent the URL)

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ