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4:00 PM
@PhiNotPi is that a PID problem I see?
 
@tuskiomi I mean, it definitely involves combining sensor measurements, but I don't think it counts as a PID controller problem.
 
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Q: The Solitude of Prime Numbers

MarioRecently I read the novel "The Solitude of Prime Numbers" where the main characters are somewhat compared to twin prime numbers ("always together, but never touching"). A twin prime is a prime number that is either 2 less or 2 more than another prime number —for example, the twin prime pair (...

 
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@PhiNotPi Looks good to me. +1
 
@PhiNotPi not, PID in sensors, but as in the mathematical error attributions and (not in this case) corrections.
 
4:06 PM
I don't really know much about PID.
 
Present, integral, differential. It's an algorithm to calculate maximum possible deviation of a given set of data using those three numbers.
 
@PhiNotPi Anecdotal evidence: I'm easily confused, and at the moment also very tired, but it made sense to me with minimal rereading. I haven't proved that my understanding is correct though
 
okay, cool
Somewhat related, when I was doing research for the question, I was disappointed to find that there are almost no worked-out examples of the math (much less example code). It seems to me that DST is an entirely theoretical concept.
 
I must be tired... I just typed "Taring turpit" :P
 
New language name?
 
4:18 PM
haha, but no. My new Taring-turpit language is called Addict
 
how is everyoen
 
Somewhat confused, but mostly amused.
 
@Geobits s/mu/rou
 
Not presently. Or did you mean yourself?
 
Seeing as how I just golfed 88 bytes, I'm doing pretty good.
 
4:23 PM
@ETHproductions So, all you did to make PRINDEAL Turing-complete was to add input capabilities?
 
I also changed the print command to char so you can output anything, not just a = 1 and so on.
 
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Q: Perform Dempster's Rule of Combination

PhiNotPiCrash Course on DST Dempster–Shafer theory (DST) provides a method to combine various sources of evidence to form a belief. Given a list of possible statement (one of which is the true answer), each possible combination of statements is assigned a "mass" indicating the degree of supporting evid...

 
@NewMainPosts You're a little behind today
 
If there isn't a language called Peanut Butter by someone here, that's a missed opportunity.
 
I dunno. I'd be worried it wouldn't live up to Jelly. That's a high bar to set ;)
 
4:37 PM
I'm sure someone could musterd up something
 
brb, creating language called "Peanut Butter By Someone Here"
 
Nah, I'm not much of a language maker. Others would relish the oppotunity more than I.
 
Sorry just ketching-up. Are we doing buns?
 
I think so, but running out of condiments fast. Mayonnaise.
 
There are puns being spread across the lands right now.
 
4:40 PM
Mustard we start this up again?
 
Stop buttering up your sentences with big words
 
Reminds me of one of my favorite poems:
Roses are red,
So is bacon,
Poems are hard,
Bacon.
 
@ETHproductions Weak yolk.
 
Maybe he's just got a rye sense of humor?
 
ohhhh damn that was a gouda one
 
4:42 PM
Please. Not the cheese puns again. Anything but cheese puns.
:P
 
@quartata I'm not munch good with puns :P
 
Cheese mite not be such a bad topic
 
Can someone please reopen this question? It was just closed, but I think the recent edits made it clear, so it should be opened again.
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Q: Find the odd one out in a sequence

AjayThe Challenge: Consider the function F(N) = 2^N + 1 where N is a positive integer less than 31. The sequence defined by this function is: 3, 5, 9, 17, 33, 65, 129, 257, 513, 1025, 2049, 4097, 8193, 16385, 32769, 65537, 131073, 262145, 524289, 1048577, 2097153, 4194305, 8388609, 16777217, 335544...

I was in the process of posting an answer when it was closed.
 
I saw that 10 minutes ago and wondered why it was closed. Re-open vote casted.
 
@mbomb007 This was closed 2 minutes ago, and hasn't been edited since
 
4:44 PM
The third example still contradicts the rules.
 
@TimmyD No it doesn't.
 
Please don't vote to reopen based on requests, unless you've read the post and agree it is completely clear
 
@trichoplax Yeah, but the first 4 close votes were cast before the edits.
 
@mbomb007 5, 9, 33, 65 is not a contiguous subsequence
 
@TimmyD Maybe you need to re-read the question then.
 
4:45 PM
@mbomb007 Ah - that is useful context
 
Lol
 
It's four of five contiguous in the main sequence, not four contiguous.
 
^ @TimmyD What he said.
The question is clear, people just need to actually read it.
 
Well, it could probably be worded better imo.
 
@Geobits Maybe, but I figured it out pretty quickly.
I wanna post my 48 byte solution in Retina.
 
4:47 PM
The challenge appears to be a vote short of a reopening
 
... did something change recently? I can't post a comment on a question by hitting [enter] anymore... I have to click the button.
 
@mbomb007 Ah, that was edited in after I had cast my close vote.
 
@mbomb007 I just got that too - I assumed it was my laptop playing up
 
@Geobits Sorry
 
Reading through the revision history shows that the whole "contiguous subsequence" thing was edited in by Mego.
Wait, how the deuce did Dennis just answer that question? It's on-hold.
 
4:52 PM
Moderator hacks
 
What output do you give for input [3,9,17,33,129]? Either the 3 or the 129 could be correct, depending on which contiguous five you select. — Geobits 27 secs ago
 
@TimmyD Mods can do that
he probably didn't even notice that it was closed actually
 
@quartata No, they can't.
 
Wait, what?
 
Grace period then?
 
4:53 PM
Then... how did that just happen
 
If you're already working on the answer, you can sometimes answer a few minutes after closing.
 
Oh, right. That happened to me once
 
People with crappy internet connections or answering from mobile don't always notice the question is on hold though. On the server side, you can still answer it a few minutes/hours after it was put on hold.
 
@TimmyD @mbomb007 @Geobits @trichoplax I tried improving the spec of that challenge. Since you all just discussed it, do you think this is clearer?
 
The only problem I see with the challenge is the point Geobits raised.
 
4:56 PM
Ah right. I'd just add that the solution is guaranteed to be unique.
 
@MartinEnder Much better.
 
That clears it up for me too
 
Good grief. This challenge is turning into a community wiki.
 
@TimmyD That's what happens when we're online and the OP isn't.
I want to post my answer already.
:D
 
It's clear and unambiguous now, but how far have we deviated from OP's original intent in the name of editing?
 
4:57 PM
None.
 
This has been closed and reopened and closed lol
 
whelp, my challenge already has a downvoter
 
That's how you know it's popular :D
Or something like that
 
> That's how you know it's popular Geobits voted on it :D
 
:O
 
4:59 PM
If you post a substantial challenge that can't be understood by everyone at first reading, a downvote isn't surprising. Doesn't mean the challenge isn't welcome.
 
Speaking of challenges, was my first one too hard? :s nobody has answered yet.
 
@mbomb007 I don't think that works: retina.tryitonline.net/…
 
@MartinEnder Yeah, I just noticed that.
Why isn't it working?
 
@Downgoat Sorry to bother you about this again, but can you please push the := update to NPM? Also how did you handle var x := null;?
 
I'm afraid I don't understand why your approach should be working :/
 
5:07 PM
Ohhhhh
>.<
Idk if I can fix it.
It's because 4+1 is contained, but not 8+1
So the 5 never gets removed
That's the only example where the answer is replacing the 2nd sequence
 
@Yodle probably - I just checked it and it does look quite hard on first inspection
 
@mbomb007 wouldn't it also fail if it was fourth?
 
Dang, hopefully someone figures it out, or else I might try to make a solution at some point.
 
@MartinEnder Yes. But that example is the only one that my program fails for.
 
@Mego This answer is a thing of beauty: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/94706/47581 :D Hats off to you, sir
 
5:11 PM
None of them have the 4th elt missing
@MartinEnder I can fix it if I also remove n and 4*n
 
that seems dangerous
3, 9, 17, 33, 65
 
Hey, Google just turned 18 today
Hopefully the servers won't start smoking cigars
 
The ones in Alabama should wait another year at least.
 
@MartinEnder Aw, man.
@quartata They'll have to sign up for selective service if male.
But they're probably female, since their ports go in, and they have racks.
 
@Yodle I've got a two year old challenge with no (working) answers and twenty upvotes, if that makes you feel better :/
 
5:16 PM
@quartata CMC: make the 18+ sign blue, red, green and yellow.
 
I don't know what the situation is there, but here there are countless different "18+" signs, and not one "official" one that I know of.
 
Also, awwwww... YEEEAAAH!
 
@MartinEnder I need to only remove n and 4*n if removing only n and 2*n results in more than one number.
Great. -_-
 
Google's major now :3
 
@zyabin101 It's still rated G.
 
5:20 PM
That moment when the comments under an answer on Chemistry.SE are about German.
You’re German, right? My mnemonic was anodische Oxidation ist das A und O.Jan 7 hours ago
 
@mbomb007 But its 18th birthday is today :3
 
G for Google. G for Great. G for Giant. G for Gobbling Up All Your Data.
 
18 is the age of majority of maaaaany countries.
Coincidence? :3
(Also, I probably won't see server marriage, and hopefully the servers won't drink Chrome.)
 
Maybe there should be a Google related challenge for their birthday
 
> Print the number 18 without using the characters g, o, l or e in your source code. This is popularity golf, cleverest byte count wins.
 
5:27 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Mr PublicLargest Number Given Digits and Operators Challenge Given a list of digits (0-9) and operators (+, -, /, *), output the largest number that can be formed using those digits and operators, as well as the mathematical formula used to create this number. Rules All digits and operators must be...

 
@MartinEnder Good luck getting that in.
The Sandbox is crucial for that, takes 6-8 weeks because writing a good popcon is hard.
 
Actually,, 6 bytes: úl¬¬¬¬
 
Contains the letter l.
 
l is a black listed letter.
ninja'd
 
Actually, 5 bytes: ╜⌐u²τ
 
5:30 PM
Not a particularly clever byte count, -1.
 
Actually, 10 bytes: ╜⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐
 
18 seems to be allowed, but I guess ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ for a byte count of 18 could be considered cleverer.
 
@Dennis Most creative byte count I've seen today, you win.
 
\o/
 
Hey, what about my solution?! Minkolang, 18 bytes: 222222224+++++++N.
 
5:32 PM
Ah yeah. Actually, 18 bytes: 1uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
-1 you stole the byte count
 
brb doing a Doodle Sports Koth, or an "I'm Feeling Lucky" simulator, or a...
 
@Dennis I had the idea before I saw your solution!
 
@MartinEnder How about this?
 
5:34 PM
*popularest
 
Another fun 18-byter in Minkolang: "I1+N.............
 
CMC for Android guys: repeatedly tap the "Android version" link in the "About this System".
 
@pythongurus Can I define a class so that Foo is None returns true?
 
I could probably write a program with Googol bytes.
 
Good luck fitting that in a SE post, because
2^100 is a lot larger than 29950.
 
5:38 PM
There's also the minor issue that there are only about 10^80 particles in the universe...
 
Even when you exclude the overhead header and TIO link of 50 bytes, it still won't fit.
 
@El'endiaStarman Such a pessimist...
 
Actually, 10**100 bytes (1 googol): 1uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD(uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD repeated 27777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777‌​7777777777777777776 times)uDuDuDuDuDuDuDuDuDuDuDuDuD⌐u²τ
 
@MartinEnder Brachylog, 16 bytes: "eighteen"@c+$(b
 
CōnsōIĕ.Writĕ(18);
 
5:45 PM
So, after that POTUS debate, what's the opinion of Americans in here? Did they do good? Did they ridicule themselves? Who "won"? (Without starting a chat warfare please)
Was way too late for me to follow it
 
Hahaha, I think that's a topic better avoided. We did that at least once today ;)
 
@Fatalize Canada realtors won.
 
Warning: imgur collection in my next few messages.
 
"Put deodorant on a mosquito bite to stop the itching" not sure if trolling or actual piece of advice
 
@Fatalize from the little bit I saw, Clinton debated much better. I still don't think either of them are worthy of office
I also didn't watch a ton of it
 
5:48 PM
@DJMcMayhem That's not very optimistic :p
 
Tbh, the only thing I like about Hillary is that she's not Trump.
 
The only thing I like about trump is that he's not hillary.
:P
 
How does one go about tagging a regex-golf challenge?
 
@DJMcMayhem Thanks, but I don't think there is a .
 
5:51 PM
Oh, regex doesn't exist
Ninja
Maybe it should be a synonym
 
does though, thanks!
 
Rod
python 18 bytes, print-6+00+6*(1+3)
and spells google :3
 
@DJMcMayhem It should.
 
@wizzwizz4 I think it has to exist first
 
Unfortunately (well, probably fortunately actually) I can't propose tag synonyms.
 
5:52 PM
How much rep do you have again?
 
@DJMcMayhem No, I've made synonyms on Retrocomputing with non-existing tags.
 
Bah, well, this imgur collection finished quickly.
 
@DJMcMayhem 800 and something.
839.
 
@wizzwizz4 yeah, but you also have superpowers
 
Only here.
 
5:53 PM
///, 18 bytes: /print/eighteen/18
 
You people set up a Kryptonite sprayer, so my powers are useless there. Only the PPCG mods have radiation suits.
 
I can't do it either, but because of tag score, not rep
 
Hey everyone
 
can i add ♦ in my username
 
hi Beta!
 
5:54 PM
@betseg I think so.
Haven't tried it.
 
@betseg Nope, I've already asked Dennis :(
 
@betseg you can, but the mods will remove it
 
Your username only allows alphabetical characters
 
At least, I think you can. Either way, it won't stick
 
@BetaDecay :-(
 
5:56 PM
@BetaDecay oh?
 
Rod
@DJMcMayhem he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling mods
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@BetaDecay Not true! You can put ZALGO in there, and numbers too! And Chinese and Greek and...
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Q: Match the Stack Exchange URLs

wizzwizz4Prologue After installing an anti-XSS browser extension, Stack Snippets suddenly stopped working all across the Stack Exchange network. I could no longer learn from Stack Overflow, see working demos on User Experience and, worst of all, could not test JavaScript answers on Programming Puzzles an...

 
I just tried it. It wouldn't let me
 
My new challenge! :-)
 
@betseg No, it's explicitly blacklisted
 
5:58 PM
@DJMcMayhem Makes sense. Mods don't want a load of pseudo-mods running around.
 
for exactly the reason you might think
 
Could I have some constructive criticism of my challenge plz?
 
@wizzwizz4 Chinese, Greek, and Zalgo are still alphabetical.
 
Answers also welcome.
@Dennis Really? :-o
 
"Could I have some constructive criticism of my challenge plz?" That's something to ask when it's in the sandbox
 
5:59 PM
I wonder if there's a way to actually pronounce all the accents on zalgo letters
 
@Fatalize D'oh! Knew I'd forgotten something...
 
@quartata Vietnamese is kinda like that :p
 
@quartata Yes, there is. No, you can't.
Your vocal chords are probably unable.
 
*ahem* Let's not lower the signal-to-noise ratio in here...
4 messages moved to Trash
 
Here, @NewMainPosts!
Come on @NewMainPosts!
 
6:02 PM
@Fatalize Heh
 
@wizzwizz4 Hang on, it'll be another 15 minutes
 
By the power vested in me by the Stack Exchange Community Managers, I hereby summon @NewMainPosts!
 
@Fatalize I used to spend all my free time designing fonts, and when I first saw the Vietnamese character set, I thought "Oh. My. Gosh. Do people actually use this?"
 
@El'endiaStarman wizzwizz4 it was?
 
@zyabin101 ?
 
6:04 PM
@wizzwizz4 HELLO I AM BOT FEED ME BUTTER
 
@ETHproductions Colonials said "Use the roman alphabet!" "But... how do we mark tones and things..." "Just put a bunch of diacritics"
Metallica released a good song wtf
 
Anyone here like regular expressions?
Want to save a fellow golfer from an eternity of broken Stack Snippets?
 
@wizzwizz4 What's the problem?
 
@ETHproductions My XSS-injection preventer stops all the Stack Snippets.
I need a regular expression that matches all of the Stack Exchange sites.
 
What do you mean by "stops all the Stack Snippets"?
 
6:11 PM
@ETHproductions When I press "Run", nothing happens and the XSS-injection preventer pops up with a message saying "Blocked potential XSS injection attempt".
Whatever happened to a humble whitelist?
 
I CAN DO THE REGEX! THE SOLUTION IS time up. enter butter to continue.
 
what does your xss-injection preventer do to actually stop xss
 
@Poke No clue. All I know is that the whitelist is regex-based.
 
@wizzwizz4 First step: ^https?:\/\/[a-z.]*\.?stackexchange\.com
This doesn't include stackoverflow, askubuntu, etc.
 
@NewMainPosts How much butter? I tried, but the whole stick wouldn't fit in the USB slot :/
 
6:15 PM
@ETHproductions ^https?://[a-z.]*\.?stackexchange\.com[/$]? is what I had, but it bugged a bit.
 
Maybe the // in there didn't work?
 
@ETHproductions That was present in the example ones.
 
@NewMainPosts B - an uncursed box of butter. gives B to New Main Posts here is your butter :3
 
@wizzwizz4 No, I mean /abc//def/g is not a valid regex in JS (or many other languages).
You'd have to use /abc\/\/def/g
 
@ETHproductions I know. But the wrapping /s weren't present in the examples.
 
6:17 PM
@wizzwizz4 Is the preventer open source?
 
@El'endiaStarman Could you also come here to the local astronomical observatory? They could really use someone preventing the S/N from dropping too low.
 
@zyabin101 I do not think so. But I can get the obfuscated JS, because I use Firefox.
@flawr You know each other IRL?
 
@wizzwizz4 Not really=)
 
@wizzwizz4 Very sad.
=(
 
Does TNB count as RL?
 
6:19 PM
@flawr Gimme a sec...
reflected sounds of underground spirits
@flawr Now it does.
 
@flawr Haha! Aww, that's a bummer. :P
 
@wizzwizz4 Great, well then we do know eachother IRL.
Otherwise only in IIL
 
@@{dvotersof:94731:codegolf} Please leave a comment.
 
We probably would've met in person by now if we lived 50 miles apart, not 4000... :P
Incidentally, the "Measure Distance" feature of Google Maps (right click on the map) actually takes Earth's curvature into account! :D
 
Where can you find that feature?
 
6:24 PM
@El'endiaStarman So, (0,90) and (180,90) aren't very far apart on Google Maps?
 
> (right click on the map)
 
6:36 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Julien KlugeMost ridiculous way to sum 1 to n I long thought about how this challenge could be fun and decided to propose this as a popularity-contest But I'm not sure if this will gonna be as good as I think. The task is simple: Write a program which uses an absolute ridiculous/creative/erroneous way to ...

 
@El'endiaStarman Reminds me of the nerd vs geek rap. "Your momma took the ugly ones and put them into one nerd."
 
I wonder how they figure out what browser you're using...
 
majik
And now I know that my browser is multiple browsers in one:
Mine is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.4.2; <my phone model> Build/KOT49H) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/50.0.2661.89 Mobile Safari/537.36
It's Mozilla, Chrome, and Mobile Safari in one.
 
...wow
I read somewhere that the string Mozilla is included in all browsers' user-agents, for legacy Netscape compatibility.
I'm using Firefox, so mine doesn't contain any other browser names:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
(Why Windows NT 6.1? I'm on Windows 7...)
 
6:54 PM
Windows 7 is NT 6.1.
 
oh...
 
The following is very likely the only post about the presidential debate I will repost today
 
@zyabin101 That's kind of confusing
 
Windows 95, 98, and ME were 4.x, XP NT 5.x, Vista, 7, and 8 NT 6.x.
 
I always thought NT was a specific release.
For a programmer, I really don't know much about computers... :P
 
6:56 PM
The Windows NT family consists of actual operating systems. Non-NT Windows ran on top of MS-DOS.
Since XP, all Windows releases use the NT kernel.
 
@El'endiaStarman doesn't seem to work =/
 
Not mine, but I found this gem.
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; ELT; BTRS29395; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ;  Embedded Web Browser from: bsalsa.com; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; ELT; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; FDM; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; ELT)
 
@flawr Bummer. I don't know then.
 
@Dennis Where bsalsa.com is 403 forbidden.
 

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