The Nineteenth Byte

Luis Mendo

22:00

@Dennis Oh :-) Thanks. I didn't ask you to pull yet just in case I included some more changes (which I haven't). What was the word? Not to pester you unnecessarily

2 days ago, by Downgoat

@Dennis there was a bug in that version of wrapper too >_> can you replace it with this version? (i'll try to integrate wrapper with cheddar npm module ASAP so i dont have to pester you with this >_>)

2 days ago, by Luis Mendo

"pester" Funny how English has a word for everything :-) In Spanish we would have to use an expression, or a verb that has a more general meaning

El'endia Starman

@quartata Holy cow, RIT got a special one!

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Yeah, I'm surprised you never saw it :P

El'endia Starman

Well, I graduated in 2015. I wasn't at RIT anymore.

DJMcMayhem

Hahahaha

quartata

Comic was April 1 2012

DJMcMayhem

22:02

Dennis

@LuisMendo Well, I was eager to try out the bitwise goodies. :)

@TimmyD What are you saying about dogs?

El'endia Starman

@quartata Oh.....okay. Well, in my defense, that was four years ago? :P

Luis Mendo

@Dennis :-) I hope I didn't screw it up. I did some tests and it seemed to give the right result (works only in the range -2^52:2^52-1, at least for now)

Dennis

Yeah, the ones I tested worked as expected.

Luis Mendo

Good to know, thanks!

DJMcMayhem

22:05

Thanks a lot @quartata, I just read through the entire explain XKCD article when I was hoping to do something productive.

quartata

No problem

El'endia Starman

@DJMcMayhem Same for me. :P

DJMcMayhem

It was worth it though :)

flawr

@ConorO'Brien Can you again give me the link to your new comic/blog?

Conor O'Brien

@flawr cergos.cfw.me

nothing new besides the one comic

Luis Mendo

22:11

What! No Jolf?

quartata

I penciled up a comic but I'm too lazy to ink it by hand. I was wondering if I could scan it and do edge detection to work with it

DJMcMayhem

That's exactly what I imagine java sounds like.

Luis Mendo

Verbose and respectful?

El'endia Starman

@ConorO'Brien Me likey. The HTML example kinda bothers me though... ಠ_ಠ

Theo

@LuisMendo Well put

Conor O'Brien

22:12

@LuisMendo golfing languages later ;)

Luis Mendo

@ConorO'Brien Haha ok

DJMcMayhem

V plz?

Conor O'Brien

@El'endiaStarman haha :3

flawr

@quartata Link?

Conor O'Brien

@DJMcMayhem will do.

quartata

22:12

It's a physical piece of paper

DJMcMayhem

\o/

Conor O'Brien

@LeakyNun '*'#~>:/~i.10, J

@DJMcMayhem thanks :)

El'endia Starman

@El'endiaStarman Actually, it's syntactically valid with regards to the opening and closing tags. I thought it wasn't at first. On the other hand, the bit.ly link doesn't have quotes around it, and the first a tag doesn't have an href.

flawr

@quartata Why you could still share a tinyurl.

quartata

I don't know how to make a URL to a physical object

do let me know

Dennis

22:13

Does anyone know what attribute Python's / calls internally?

(Python 3)

quartata

__div__ I think

Conor O'Brien

@El'endiaStarman you can go deeper and say that a lot of web dev's learn HTML but not necessarily correctly.

flawr

@quartata at least give us the IP

quartata

127.0.0.1

feel free to ddos

Dennis

@quartata No, there is no __div__ attribute in version 3.

quartata

22:15

@Dennis Huh. One second

Conor O'Brien

@quartata I need the sha256 hash to make sure it installed correctly

Sp3000

It's truediv

quartata

Yeah, __truediv__

Dennis

Ah, found it. __floordiv__

quartata

I just did dir(1)

Dennis

22:16

Eh, typing fail. I wanted //, not /.

quartata

@Dennis That's integer division I assume

Dennis

Yup.

Luis Mendo

@Dennis and you keep saying that Jelly is bad with strings?

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A: Lemon-Limify a String

Jelly, 32 26 bytes ³L_+«0ị“~ ”«³ḣ JµṖ;Ṛç@þ`j⁷ Try it online! EDIT: Dennis saved 6 bytes. Thanks!

Dennis

It seems that I am bad with strings. This is the second string challenge where Lynn outgolfed everyone else with Jelly.

DJMcMayhem

Still one of the longest jelly answers I've ever seen. :P

Luis Mendo

22:19

I find it surprising that the challenge has two CV as unclear. Granted, the spec relies on the examples, but the examples do make everything crystal clear, don't they

Conor O'Brien

^

Dennis

We have a de facto rule that examples, however clear, don't replace a specification. I agree that it's a bit of overkill here, but both positions are reasonable.

flawr

I need two names for clocks.

Sp3000

What sort of clocks?

flawr

Doesn't really matter

Luis Mendo

22:32

Watch, hourglass?

flawr

time clocks

Luis Mendo

What does time specify in time clocks? Are there clocks that don't refer to time?

From MS Word synonyms: time piece, chronometer

Sp3000

Well I was thinking more whether these are physical clocks that are going somewhere, as opposed to, say, a clock circuit

flawr

I have an idea for a challenge:

Conor O'Brien

timepiece

Luis Mendo

22:34

timer

flawr

There are two clocks A and B

and I sequentially randomly write down the current time of A or B

A: 10:30, B: 14:12 B: 15:30, A: 11:01, B: 17:30

Now you need to find out by how much they are off

Luis Mendo

Is there a unique solution to that?

flawr

No

Luis Mendo

So any will do?

Nice

flawr

And that is one debatable thing: Will just any do, or should the participats find the minimum or/and maximum? (Under the assumption they have the same speed)

Luis Mendo

22:37

Let me add another debatable thing: the "HH:MM" input format may be unnecessarily complicating the challenge

flawr

Or another idea: Find the minimum/maximum speed difference between the two clocks (assuming both have constant but perhaps distinct speeds)

Luis Mendo

I guess min and max makes more sense, yes (assuming same rate)

flawr

Which one of those do you think are the most interesting cases?

Luis Mendo

I think min/max with same speed

Sp3000

Are all these times are on the same day?

flawr

22:39

That doesn't really matter, i thought of just providing floating point numbers between -infnitiy and infinity

Another idea would be using integers, but that is boring as you can easily bruteforce it

Sp3000

If that's the case, isn't the minimum zero?

flawr

No, consider A: 1 B:10, A:5, B:11 here the clocks are at least 5 hours of, but at most 9 hours

Luis Mendo

I think he means the maximum possible minimum

Sp3000

Or are these times sampled regularly?

flawr

No

Luis Mendo

22:42

A picture would be great to clarify the challenge

A simple one with two time lines and epochs on each

flawr

I thought about that, but I have no idea how to effectively visualize it.

Sp3000

Then I don't see why it can't be A:1 Mon, B:10 Tue, A:5 Wed, B:11 Thu

Downgoat

can anyone familiar understand why these two lines in my gitignore are not wokring:

node_modules/*
!node_modules/atob/

flawr

@Sp3000 No, I mean you get like an unix timestamp or somethign like that, that is continuous

@El'endiaStarman How do they know who was the guy who shared the link?

flawr

22:58

Is there an english expression for when a clock is behind or in advance of the real time?

Luis Mendo

"off"? said a non-native speaker :-P

Doorknob

@flawr You could say the clock is n minutes fast or slow if it's ahead or behind the actual time respectively

George V. Williams

@flawr, "running fast/slow" or "early/late"

flawr

Thanks for your suggestiosn! I wanted to avoid fast and slow, as the clocks should have the exact same speed.=)

Conor O'Brien

off sounds good

flawr

23:02

Ah, and I want to indicate in what direction the clock is off.

I think I go with ahead/behind.

Luis Mendo

^^ Sounds good to me

flawr

@Doorknob o_o I just realized your avatar actually is a doorknob. I always thought it was some kind of modern art.

Downgoat

@flawr what else did you think it was ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Luis Mendo

It's different forms of a doorknob. I liked the old one better :-)

Conor O'Brien

@quartata do you know if it's possible wait a certain period of time in source/tf2 scripting?

quartata

23:06

@ConorO'Brien There is a command called wait that waits one tick but it is disabled on most servers

DJMcMayhem

Yo, being "doper fast" would be the shiznitz. — FuzzyBoots yesterday

Conor O'Brien

@quartata hrmph

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

CMC: Write a minimal set of rules that can deduce all ZFC-provable theorems

flawr

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

How synchronized are my clocks? code-golf I have two clocks, A and B, and A always shows the exact time, however B is of by a certain amount of time, that I'd like to find out. (I know A and B run at the exact same speed.) I cannot read the exact time of both simultaneously, that means I can on...

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Q: Make a (somewhat) self-referential string

You want to make a string where the (1-indexed) character at index n is n. When n is less than 10, this is easy: "123456789". When n is 12, for example, it becomes impossible, since numbers greater than 9 (in base 10) take up more than one character. We can compromise by dividing the string into ...

flawr

23:15

@quartata Are you interested in someone inking it for you?

quartata

I'd rather try it by hand first

qwr

hi I have a question, can my title be unicode characters

Lynn

What’s the title?

qwr

Kinda difficult to read in small fonts

DJMcMayhem

I think that's a bad idea

qwr

23:18

ok

Downgoat

@qwr Hm, I'd avoid it. Some people might not be able to see it

it's also a bit hard too read

DJMcMayhem

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A: Is Unicode in Hot Network Questions question titles allowed?

It is certainly allowed to use Unicode, when appropriate. We don't discriminate :-) On the other hand your question had a title which, in my opinion, used Unicode as decorations and needed improvement. Do use descriptive titles and avoid flashy decorations. If you want more views for your ques...

qwr

ok

it's been a while since i've been on pc&g

wait that's not the right acronym

Luis Mendo

:-D

qwr

pp&cg?

yes that sounds better

Luis Mendo

23:21

Yup. Usually no &

qwr

ok

DJMcMayhem

Generally people go with PPCG

Ninja'd

qwr

I've never used the sandbox maybe I should :/

Luis Mendo

@flawr is of should read is off

DJMcMayhem

It never hurts. Even when you are more experienced at writing challenges there are things you might overlook

Downgoat

23:22

@qwr That's always a good idea. Every challenge almost always benefits from at least a little time in the sandbox

qwr

ok i'll try it out there

Downgoat

Speaking of sandbox, does this look ready to post:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Dividing Strings Division with numbers is great: 6 / 3 = 2, but have you ever wanted to divide strings? In this challenge you will, given two strings (s and t) divide s by t Challenge Given a string, s, find the substring in which t is repeated the most times (non-overlapping), return the amou...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

How synchronized are my clocks? code-golf I have two clocks, A and B, and A always shows the exact time, however B is of by a certain amount of time, that I'd like to find out. (I know A and B run at the exact same speed.) I cannot read the exact time of both simultaneously, that means I can on...

DJMcMayhem

wat? who starred that?

qwr

I think my challenge is pretty easy but i'll test it out in the sandbox

flawr

23:25

@DJMcMayhem Guess who^^

@LuisMendo thanks

qwr

ok so the challenge will be to turn alphanumeric characters into a unicode equivalent. What do you guys think of a bonus for also outputting a variant

For example turning a into ⓐ and then a bonus for also outputting 🅐

nah scratch the bonus that's kinda weird

because negative variants only exist for capital letters I think

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

23:57

Question: How does one remove a constant indent from all lines from a file in vim?

Doorknob

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ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@Doorknob o_O

Doorknob

Do <G once and dot-repeat it until the indent is gone

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@Doorknob dot-repeat? not much of a vimmer

Doorknob

(You could probably do some magic to auto-detect the amount of indentation, but that's probably more trouble than it's worth)

Downgoat

23:59

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ <C-V>G then click l a bunch of times until all whitespace is selected then d

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