The Nineteenth Byte

quartata

4:00 PM

It's common sense, really. I guess some people just needed it spelled out

Doorknob

@quartata And how I wish it could have stayed that way

Martin Ender

must. not. post. caret.

quartata

haha

Leaky Nun

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=fucking&user=&room=240

trichoplax

@MartinEnder I'm also impressed no one caretted that...

Geobits

4:01 PM

^

Leaky Nun

^^^^

trichoplax

(I mean your comment...)

mınxomaτ

∧∧

trichoplax

@quartata If everyone had the same common sense in common, it wouldn't need spelling out

Leaky Nun

@trichoplax I got flagged for this.

quartata

4:02 PM

@mınxomaτ Technically not carets, checks out

Geobits

@LeakyNun Better than getting flagged for using the R-word.

Martin Ender

@LeakyNun while most people in this room wouldn't be bothered, it just takes one person to bring it to the attention of the entire network, and people who aren't familiar with you/the room/the conversation are likely to confirm such a flag.

swear all you like, but don't complain if it gets you a 30 minute suspension.

Leaky Nun

@Geobits what's the r-word?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LeakyNun Rickroll.

Geobits

Raid

Martin Ender

4:04 PM

(if it's something harmless, and I see it, I'm happy to clear flags on things like this, but sometimes no one is around, and then you'll just have to make yourself a tea, I guess.)

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

must. not. flag. ^^.

trichoplax

Other insecticides are available

quartata

I love how chatiquette has actually derailed chat more

Hey, that's pretty meta

trichoplax

I see discussion of the chatiquette as constructive. It doesn't involve huge gifs...

quartata

Fair

Geobits

4:05 PM

@trichoplax I'm sure we could find some appropriate gifs if we really wanted to >_>

trichoplax

Er... I wasn't complaining...

Leaky Nun

trichoplax

@LeakyNun Have you speeded that up out of courtesy to those with low bandwidth?

Geobits

I was wondering why it was going so fast lol

Leaky Nun

@trichoplax No, I just posted the first gif I found on the internet.

Geobits

4:07 PM

I was trying to lip read it and it just looks weird.

Helka Homba

Mini-bet: How many days before the word "Brexit" does not appear anywhere on news.google.com ?

trichoplax

It means I read it in a much higher pitched version of Michael Caine's voice

@HelkaHomba For a consecutive 24 hour period, or a UTC day?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@HelkaHomba Never.

All news should have been archived.

Geobits

I'd have to sign out of Google to shed the personalized news sections. Don't make me do that o_o

trichoplax

@HelkaHomba I'll take 36

Geobits

4:11 PM

Hmm. In incognito mode brexit is found 13 times. When signed in, it appears 33 times.

trichoplax

Reflecting your keen interest in UK politics?

quartata

@Geobits Ooh, I've got just the thing

Wait a second...

Geobits

@trichoplax Not sure, but they mostly seem to pop up in the "world news" and "business" section, which makes sense.

trichoplax

Ah right

quartata

@HelkaHomba I'm guessing about 3 weeks

Maybe 4

trichoplax

4:13 PM

Unless you pick an exact number of days we won't be able to decide who the imaginary money goes to...

Helka Homba

I'll guess 15 days

Not that I'll remember to check

quartata

@trichoplax Fine. 21 days

Geobits

Can I choose -60 days? Pretty sure there wasn't anything about it then.

quartata

toasted

trichoplax

@Geobits You'd be surprised...

Geobits

4:15 PM

I would be, honestly. It's been talked about for a while, but it feels like only recently the news picked up the word "brexit" to use.

Eric Tressler

Someone could easily just pick a small number, like 4, and make sure there's a global catastrophe in the meantime

Leaky Nun

@EricTressler Yes, France and the Netherland

Helka Homba

@EricTressler I'm not sure bragging rights in this chatroom would really be worth that ._.

Geobits

Interesting: google.com/trends/explore#q=brexit

quartata

Interesting, someone searched it in January 2016

Eric Tressler

4:17 PM

"Honey, I'm losing an internet bet. Bring me my launch codes"

quartata

Ah, right. That's when the referendum got put on the bill

makes sense

Geobits

> In today's news, the nuclear strike on Guatemala has cancelled the Brexit talks scheduled for Tuesday.

quartata

@EricTressler heh

trichoplax

@Geobits Ah - that's just what I was trying to work out how to do - but all I could think of was ngrams...

I guess people might have started searching for Brexit before it was used in news, just by extrapolation from Grexit

Helka Homba

@Geobits Nifty. So why do some winters have two peaks? google.com/trends/explore#q=winter

Geobits

4:20 PM

I guess it gets really cold some Februaries?

quartata

@HelkaHomba That's actually really interesting. Maybe those correspond to warmer winters

Eric Tressler

If they try to rush it, they'll have Brexfast

quartata

i.e the number of "when is winter over pls" searches go down

trichoplax

@HelkaHomba It's every 4 years, seeming to align with the winter olympics, but I have no idea if that's the reason...

quartata

@trichoplax Ohh, good catch

That could be it actually

Helka Homba

4:21 PM

@trichoplax Oh, probably (though summer just had single peaks)

Geobits

Pudding spikes every December, while frogs are in a slow, constant decline.

trichoplax

I know very little about sports, other than they tend to happen every 4 years

orlp

for(;(c=getchar())<95u;)

Helka Homba

@Geobits What were you up to in September 2005? google.com/trends/explore#q=geobits

orlp

now that's pretty golfy

quartata

4:22 PM

google.com/trends/…

The trend is obvious

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Hmm, that must be someone else. I wasn't using this name until 2007/8 or so.

orlp

google.com/trends/…

looks like we're sending animals to space again!

quartata

Holy shit, I must have been pretty damn interesting in May 2005: google.com/trends/explore#q=quartata

trichoplax

@quartata Clearly the world population is getting more and more knowledgeable about JS, precluding the need to search for it

Helka Homba

code golf seems to align with school breaks

quartata

4:24 PM

Wait a second...

google.com/trends/…

All of us have spikes around 2004-2005. What?

Geobits

Noise in the machine

quartata

No I'm pretty sure it's time travelers

orlp

@quartata you might be onto something here

check this: google.com/trends/…

really spooky

quartata

google.com/trends/…

NinjaBearMonkey

google.com/trends/explore#q=ninja%2C%20bear%2C%20monkey

quartata

4:27 PM

So someone traveled back in time and started doing bulk searches of usernames they had gathered in the future perhaps

Geobits

There's also a spike in this one in 2005.

quartata

Illuminati confirmed

Eric Tressler

google.com/trends/…

what happened there

quartata

OK if this isn't a trend I don't know what is: google.com/trends/…

We need to compare it to a random low-volume word just to see if someone wasn't googling random words in 2005

Eric Tressler

I suggest "meerkat"

quartata

4:31 PM

@EricTressler Hahaha, that's Meerkat Manor actually

ended in 2009 I think

Eric Tressler

that's too bad

I was hoping there was a meerkat rampage in the UK

"zoo escape" is a good one

Helka Homba

People thought Y2K could have been Y2.01K

quartata

Crap, rip conspiracy theory: google.com/trends/…

Optimizer

google.com/trends/…

cats are more famous

Eric Tressler

"nude" and "naked" are nearly parallel

quartata

4:34 PM

google.com/trends/…

And Downgoat doesn't have enough volume. Weird.

Maybe the time travelers decided doxxing Upgoat wasn't worth it

Eric Tressler

this is fun; I'm trying to find something with spikes in the same place as "zoo escape" or "florida man"

Helka Homba

Dog vs Cat vs Human. We're losing :|

quartata

not surprised

holy shit, dogs are beating cats? what?

Eric Tressler

who searches for "human"

Helka Homba

If cats and dogs used google it might even out

quartata

4:37 PM

@HelkaHomba "laser pointers for humans"

"organic human food"

Helka Homba

"human chew toys"

quartata

"how to euthanize a human"

"cat's guide to establishing a monarchy"

Eric Tressler

that's sad. go with castrate

quartata

"custom crowns for cats"

Optimizer

Helluuu

trichoplax

4:39 PM

Chat is starting to read like HNQ... :)

Optimizer

I am Helka Homba

Helka Homba

@Optimizer I'll get there. Hold your llamas.

m654

For some reason, lots of people in Nepal are Googling "how to type: google.com/trends/explore#q=how%20to%20type

Optimizer

@HelkaHomba minecraft doesnt have llamas.

Eric Tressler

@Optimizer a shameful omission

trichoplax

4:40 PM

@m654 But only in the central region...

Optimizer

indeed

Eric Tressler

@Optimizer I used that exact photo as my icon on social media years ago

Optimizer

@EricTressler yeah, i was famous back then

now only I use my pics

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I have a rubber duck :3 :P

Helka Homba

There was a time when mimes beat memes - google.com/trends/explore#q=meme%2C%20mime

DanTheMan

4:42 PM

I misread duck at first...

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Who does want one? :3

Optimizer

who wants your rubber duck?

^ misread that

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Optimizer :(

quartata

google.com/trends/…

I like how in September 2005 there's a tiny peak

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Apply for the rubber duck in the Sandbox.

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

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DanTheMan

4:46 PM

google.com/trends/explore#q=linux

google.com/trends/explore#q=windows

m654

Kden google.com/trends/…

quartata

@DanTheMan well linux predates google so

also I would argue that means more people know about linux

DanTheMan

google.com/trends/…

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Rubber ducks are so unpopular :(

Compared to them taken apart into two entities, rubber and ducks.

DanTheMan

Are rubber trees or rubber ducks more popular?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

4:52 PM

@DanTheMan Let's find out :3

DanTheMan

google.com/trends/…

Ducks apparently

Helka Homba

google.com/trends/explore#q=1%2C%202%2C%203%2C%204%2C%205

quartata

@Upgoat I successfully installed Cheddar on my Arch Linux VM, but you should really modify the script to make it abort if npm fails

also I can barely fucking see the yellow repl prompt

please change it to a less invasive color

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@quartata How?

@quartata Why?

Optimizer

When?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:07 PM

What?

Optimizer

Who?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

\o/ We said the main 5 questions!

Optimizer

Which?
Where?
Whose?
Whom?

trichoplax

Ninjad

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

choose

GamrCorps

5:14 PM

Does anyone know how to get the data of a url (in my case, the raw data of a gist) and put it into a string in JavaScript?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@GamrCorps I know how to get the data of a url and put it into a string in Python.

So no.

(^^ was a joke.)

GamrCorps

I could tell :P

NinjaBearMonkey

@GamrCorps Are you using jQuery?

GamrCorps

Yeah

NinjaBearMonkey

$.get([raw url]).done(function(data){[data is the string in this case])

GamrCorps

5:22 PM

@NinjaBearMonkey Yay! Thanks so much!

flawr

5:38 PM

hitch
here
hose
ham

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Who here is on Project Euler?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

are there alternate ways of quoting a string in pyth? this string has a lot of double quotes

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 moi

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I am, and my friendcode is 984845_ZyZsjOswfqoDY3I5UKtDW8cDaXDhfg9m.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ And your friendcode is?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

820843_d1108c568109c4415d449450e2180f6d

El'endia Starman

I have two Project Euler accounts. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

5:44 PM

I'm quite happy that PE now has a dark theme

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Why??

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I was ninja'd in adding you to the friendlist.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I see :3

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@flawr One for actual competition, one for the language Pytek.

El'endia Starman

@flawr One is my original, and the other is for development of Pytek.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

5:46 PM

:o

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@El'endiaStarman ninja'd

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ We share 1 solved problem. :3

El'endia Starman

I have over 110 on my original and I've gotten 1-5 so far with Pytek.

flawr

What is Pytek?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@El'endiaStarman Care to share your original user's friendcode?

Or you could add me with the friendcode 984845_ZyZsjOswfqoDY3I5UKtDW8cDaXDhfg9m.

Lynn

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What’s the string?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

5:49 PM

@Lynn This:

Ao{[T::=~('etanimret'91+'"onj p $o o> " tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'"$h S$h r$h O$h s$h D$h r$h F$h e$h " tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'"$h '"'"'$h " tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'"$h " tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'"$h R$h u$h b$h e$h 23#h G$h o$h l$h d$h b$h e$h r$h g$h " tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'"$h '"'"'$h " tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'"$h p$h" tuptuo'Z)S¶::=¶T]}n~

I think I could do it with a regex substution

this is the best I could come up with:

:"Ao{[T::=~('etanimret'91+'@onj p $o o> @ tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'@$h S$h r$h O$h s$h D$h r$h F$h e$h @ tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'@$h '@'@'$h @ tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'@$h @ tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'@$h R$h u$h b$h e$h 23#h G$h o$h l$h d$h b$h e$h r$h g$h @ tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'@$h '@'@'$h @ tuptuo'91+'Q tuptuo'91+'@$h p$h@ tuptuo'Z)S¶::=¶T]}n~"\@\"

El'endia Starman

Added both of you to my friends list (zyabin and Conor).

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman \o/

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@El'endiaStarman :D

quartata

Pytek

Discussion for this in-development language

greatness

Lynn

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Maybe .Z (zlib compress) it.

There’s a lot of repetition.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:55 PM

@Lynn Or pack it--- ah wait, there's a lot of repetition.

' vs ’? again?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Lynn true. this is for the rube goldberg challenge. what chars does zlib use?

Eric Tressler

I did project Euler a long time ago

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@EricTressler But do you now?

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Where can i find this key?

Eric Tressler

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 no; I think I was able to solve randomly chosen ones reliably, so I was convinced I could do all of them, and I stopped

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:57 PM

@flawr Are you on Project Euler?

Lynn

.Z is both the compression and decompression function. It’ll generate a mess of high-ASCII characters, so.

El'endia Starman

@flawr Log in and click the Friends tab.

My friend key is 6702_cb48edab9c05ecd2c64c7fba6be6e290.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Lynn what about ."?

Eric Tressler

There are more problem there now than when I did it; I think there were about 150 then

Lynn

It’ll do better for short ASCII strings without much repetition, but far worse than .Z for yours

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:01 PM

oh, ok

do all of .Z fit inside a certain code page?

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Oh now I feel stupid=)

Upgoat

@quartata like? Yellow is color of cheese which is why I chose it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I love J. I just solved a problem on PE tersely and efficiently

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What's the best/recommended way of learning J?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I self-taught myself. I do not advise this way.

Please find another way. Save yourself hours of misunderstanding.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

6:09 PM

I agree, that's why I'm asking you.

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

One of the only hard concepts, learning J, was of forks, hooks, etc.

Optimizer

死ぬほど笑った https://t.co/JTZIXyrcqh

Tweeted by CelloMetalgirl on June 25, 2016 at 12:07 AM

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Got Project Euler problem 2.

Bálint

@Optimizer Can you please, you know, translate it? Not a lot of us understands Japanese

Optimizer

me neither.

El'endia Starman

6:16 PM

@Bálint No translation necessary. Just watch the video (with sound).

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@El'endiaStarman But still, can you translate the tweet content (sans the link)? :3

Bálint

@El'endiaStarman My headphone is broken

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

You do have the moderator's translator, don't you?

Martin Ender

@Bálint just use the other one!

El'endia Starman

translate: 死ぬほど笑った

(from Japanese) Death smiled

.....I have no idea whatsoever if that's accurate or not. :P

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

6:18 PM

heh

El'endia Starman

But it's a video of a vacuum playing a harmonica.

flawr

a dust sucker

Martin Ender

German has great words

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

shmidilink

I have no idea if I spelled that right

Martin Ender

did you mean Schmetterling?

(butterfly)

whatever you did mean, you definitely didn't spell it right :P

flawr

6:21 PM

So Schletterming -> flutterby?

Martin Ender

:D

flawr

Ɑ:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinEnder yes

my mom knows a bit of german and thats what it sounds like when she says it

Martin Ender

@flawr it took me quite a while to figure out why that looked wrong

interestingly, the only modern word that sounds related is "schmettern" (to smash, sort of), which isn't very fitting for butterflies :D

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Got Project Euler problem 6.

flawr

6:28 PM

@MartinEnder hehe=)

Martin Ender

(it's actually something to do with cream though, so the origin is probably the same as that of "butterfly")

flawr

buttnerfly

Optimizer

bored af

flawr

enderbee

martinmosquito

@Optimizer project euler!

Optimizer

lazy af too

flawr

6:30 PM

@Optimizer get a chocolate bar?

Optimizer

weeeeeeeee

excuse me, coming through, whoops

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Excuse my nooby question, but can I edit someone else's fork before merging their pull request? Or do I have to merge it then edit the main one?

On github

Optimizer

via ui - dont think so

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

So I'd have to do it through the CLI?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Don't think so, unless you're a collaborator on the fork.

flawr

6:44 PM

This is hillarious

20

A: Given three numbers, find the second greatest of them

Your find_second() function is rather weird. It never finds the second-largest number if it is a. It sometimes finds the second-largest number if it is b or c. I don't know if your program works or not — your main() tries to make up for the deficiencies in find_second() by calling it three tim...

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

in The Nth Monitor, 1 min ago, by zʏᴀʙiɴ101

elendia      3/135
Lektoren     3/120
Conor.OBrien 3/20
skiwi        3/14
TheRealMast  1/1
zyabin.101   0/3

^ How much problems I share with my friends.

Bálint

@MartinEnder The other what?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Bálint The other headphone.

Bálint

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I don't know why he assumes I have 2 headphones

El'endia Starman

@flawr Bahaha, yes.

And this too:

This looks awesome: int second = x ^ y ^ z ^ first ^ third;. And evil. Both at the same time. — Dex' ter 21 hours ago

flawr

6:50 PM

That is what I thought I liked too? :D

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Upgoat Could you come to the zyabinVI beta room?

flawr

o_o why is there no more "Great minds waste time alike."?

Bálint

@flawr Because we shouldn't waste time based on the chatiquette

We should have "interesting conversations"

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@flawr @Doorknob replaced the quote with the Chattiquette.

Bálint

Anyone of you knows what that means?

Maltysen

6:55 PM

@Doorknob so you guys are hosting it outside of SE. that's what I was talking about it being slightly informal, maybe move it from the github.io to a meta post? just a suggestion

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

And actually started the time of perfect discourse and a nightmare for some.

Maltysen

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 me

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Maltysen Care to share your friend key?

El'endia Starman

@Bálint Broad heuristic rule of thumb: many short messages in a short amount of time is not an interesting conversation. Multiple long messages in a short to medium amount of time is probably an interesting conversation.

Maltysen

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 my what?

Sandbox

Pytek

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