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White Water Rafting code-golfgraphsgrid This problem is about finding the best path through a bunch of rocks on a 5-column wide river, without crashing your raft. A river looks like this (* reprsents a rock): . . . R . . R . . . R . . . . . . R . . R . . . . . . . . R Each row will contain...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba that is some poor luck

Upgoat

Can I delete my account on area51?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

idk, why?

Upgoat

idk i made sample question for a bad proposal and someone downvoted it so now I can't downvote on A51

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

earn your rep back

join humor

Upgoat

22:15

i diid

wait no

nvm

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

dont yet

lemme refer you

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/88145/…

Upgoat

cheddar is taking over my email ;_;

>You'll be able to commit to another proposal once one of the above sites' beta launches, and you follow through on your commitment to that site. See the FAQ section on commitment for more details.

last itme I checked arts and crafts have launched...

Geobits

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I can't find the "downvote this proposal" button. Do you know where it is?

Upgoat

@Geobits check your avatar :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits That's a good one! ;)

Geobits

22:19

Nope, that just leads to my profile :(

Upgoat

are memes on topic on humor?

Geobits

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You'd think someone committed to humor.se would be able to tell the difference :P

Upgoat

if they are im totally running for mod with my dank goat memes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hide your children folks

Geobits

@Upgoat The problem with that is the vast majority of them aren't funny >_>

Upgoat

22:20

;_;

Geobits

Even in a "humor is subjective" way :P

Upgoat

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ_ಠ

Upgoat

my goat memes are the GOAT

Geobits

See? Proof right there ^^^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:21

@Upgoat that's actually seriously bad

Upgoat

;_;

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ok, that's good

Upgoat

i hope mods dont nuke the goats out of existence

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :D :D :D

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^ another reason I'm downgoat

XD

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wai derek

fun fact: J has regex support.

Helka Homba

Watch democracy live! :o

c-span.org/video/?411624-1/…

Upgoat

22:32

D: doesn't work on my computer ;_;

Helka Homba

I was worried that indecisive voting the other day was the end of it

Upgoat

> 1111111111111111111 === 1111111111111111200
< true

wtf js

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

dude

floating point

Upgoat

ಠ_ಠ its high level language, it shouldn't have problems with that, the snake doesn't

Sp3000

Stop using JS for arbitrary integer/float arithmetic :P

Helka Homba

22:37

> goating point

Upgoat

ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

:D

Helka Homba

@Upgoat npmjs.com/package/big-integer

Upgoat

that is slow as shit

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

how do I stop n++ from converting spaces to tabs automatically?

Upgoat

22:40

why u hate tabs?

Sp3000

@Upgoat High level =/= has arbitrary precision arithmetic support :/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Upgoat I love tabs, but when I'm using 2-space indents, I don't want tabs

Upgoat

@Sp3000 no but high level languages should have arbitrary precision arithmetic suppotrt imo

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ y r u using 2-space indents

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Upgoat J

tabs look ugly with J

Upgoat

ah ok

use neovim is solution

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:42

ಠ_ಠ

Upgoat

neovim text editor is best text editor

it has clicky movement support even so its just like normal text editor

you can even click and drag to select and that good stuff

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I like n++. It works.

except for the tabs thing

Upgoat

but vim is best it can do everything n++ can ;_;

wait wat is n++

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

notepad++

Upgoat

ಠ_ಠ notepad++ <<<< vim

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:45

yeah. it eats vim on an ice cream cone

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ settings > preferences > tab settings, then you can either set tabs to be replaced with spaces, or set the tab width to 2.

Upgoat

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan pls halp convince @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ (neo)vi(m) is best text editor

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax thanks!

quartata

@Upgoat Because Python differentiates between integers and floats while JS treats them all as floats which is dumb

Geobits

quartata

22:52

what

Geobits

> we all float down here...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Find the Coefficients of the Characteristic Polynomial Given a square matrix A, determine the coefficients of the characteristic polynomial for A. How to compute tba: show using det(A - x I) Rules This is code-golf so the shortest solution wins. Builtins that compute the eigenvalues are not...

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

23:17

@Upgoat @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ emacs is best text editor

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan ... o_O

I'm trying to write a small esoteric language in J.

trichoplax

Then it probably doesn't matter if your text editor isn't Turing Complete... :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

is emacs TC? o_O

trichoplax

I think at least one of vi and emacs is. I don't follow the war rhetoric too closely though. I just use Notepad++...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hi-five

trichoplax

23:30

:)

quartata

vim is turing complete

Don't know about emacs.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hey quartata do you know what the type verb is in J?

or what it's used for

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@quartata you know, I've heard that many times before, but I've never heard the proof. Is vim really turing complete? Could you write a brainfuck interpreter in vim?

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Someone has written a turing machine simulator in vim

RenderSettings

emacs is basically a lisp machine

course it's turing complete

quartata

23:41

I could dig it up

@RenderSettings Yeah, I figured

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

HTML+CSS is turing complete yuk yuk yuk

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ermm

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

it isn't

techinically

miles

Looks like it just pretty prints the foreign 4!:0

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what? No it's not.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:42

it's a push-driven automata

push-powered, whatever

@miles hm. okay

RenderSettings

mm, if you have a person hold down the tab button and spacebar (i think?) it is

miles

jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx004.htm

just remaps it from -2.. to 0.. and cuts the list of names to an index

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh, I see

quartata

It doesn't even work for me on tryJ :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

why don't you download J?

quartata

23:43

I have it downloaded I'm just lazy

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

tryj stopped working for me a while ago

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Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@quartata sauce?

miles

I was reading about emscriptem which I think was used to compile the C src for J to Javascript

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan It was on Usenet, so finding it may be slightly difficult

Lemme see here

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Although, tbf vimscript and python are both turing complete, and vim can access both, so it kinda has to be TC by extension.

quartata

23:47

This didn't use vimscript or anything

I don't think Python existed when this was made

Oh wait, nevermind.

Gee, I keep forgetting how old Python is...

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